Moral Conflict

[Bill]

no, what Saying is the Holy Spirit in the earth, Satan is withheld, but not his influence

I would appreciate it if you took a little more time to clarify your thoughts on the Holy Spirit I've never heard of the term of the holy spirit in the Earth. I'm not saying there isn't a phrase in the scripture that might actually say that but I think that you're missing the point of whatever scripture you're finding that says it in the first place

Also the Holy Spirit isn't something of a thing in the wind and air either the holy spirit is part of the Trinity that is God

I think this is why we are a little bit confused where you're coming from and why you feel that we are twisting around what you're saying

I'm pretty sure that everyone else also like myself would like some clarity from you on that and will you can give you some of our Clarity to to help you understand where we're coming from.

I know that there's plenty of scripture verifying what I am and others are talking about when we talk about that the holy spirit is part of the trinity or one with God

 

[Bill]

Well how many years you been studying and faithful following the LORD, continually for almost 50 years and not in a Sunday school class or weds night bible class.
How long you been studying and lecture by demand to theologians and biblical scholars and pastors?

As you know there are some who strive to live the law that lives inside of them, and that law being the word of God.

We also have to understand that no one is perfect and as Paul states that we have to strive to be perfect but we are also human. But saying that we're human doesn't give us the excuse to fail continually or to sin continually before the eyes of God with the understanding that once your saved your always saved.Sinning is separation from God and when you continually sin knowing full well what you're doing you are telling God basically that you're better than he is or that you know more than God.

You become the Judas of the Modern Age

 

[PloughBoy]

As you know there are some who strive to live the law that lives inside of them, and that law being the word of God.

We also have to understand that no one is perfect and as Paul states that we have to strive to be perfect but we are also human. But saying that we're human doesn't give us the excuse to fail continually or to sin continually before the eyes of God with the understanding that once your saved your always saved.Sinning is separation from God and when you continually sin knowing full well what you're doing you are telling God basically that you're better than he is or that you know more than God.

You become the Judas of the Modern Age

Yes I do understand and this too, one thank for sure when that day of judgment come, What ever kind it be, HE will not be Asking questions, or asking why? And that is for sure. Because if we do not get it right today! Game over, tomorrow is to late

For now is the day,

PS. He made me mad and hit me, so I married another and he made me happy. Ok, “That dog ain’t going to hunt” maybe at pastor and Mrs. Pastor at Givemore Baptist church But!

“Moral Conflict”

 

[complete]

Complete, why you got to look that up?
I am being nice

Hi @Plougboy,

Acts of the Apostles 17:11

 

[TheWordIsOne]

I would appreciate it if you took a little more time to clarify your thoughts on the Holy Spirit I've never heard of the term of the holy spirit in the Earth. I'm not saying there isn't a phrase in the scripture that might actually say that but I think that you're missing the point of whatever scripture you're finding that says it in the first place

Also the Holy Spirit isn't something of a thing in the wind and air either the holy spirit is part of the Trinity that is God

I think this is why we are a little bit confused where you're coming from and why you feel that we are twisting around what you're saying

I'm pretty sure that everyone else also like myself would like some clarity from you on that and will you can give you some of our Clarity to to help you understand where we're coming from.

I know that there's plenty of scripture verifying what I am and others are talking about when we talk about that the holy spirit is part of the trinity or one with God

clarification
a correction on my part
some explanation in what I know, if I may
their two, one is the spirit of God the comforter
second is the Holy Spirit, the Godhead

It God the Fathe
God the Son, and the Holy Spirit
in this order

The Holy Spirit may be working in the body of Christ, the Saints

to receive the Holy Spirit, there are requirements

first, understand one must cry out the scriptures to the Lord
Psalm 102:1 (NKJV) A Prayer of the afflicted, when he is overwhelmed and pours out his complaint before the LORD. Hear my prayer, O LORD, And let my cry come to You.

John 14:6 (NKJV) Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

John 6:44 (NKJV) No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.

requirements you must be draws

John 15:16 (NKJV) You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.

requirements you must choose

clarification
requirements trials
Chastisement and Chastening, and receive instruction 2 Timothy 3:16
Discipline is the highest of all, disobedience is failure
Luke 5:32 (NKJV) I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."

The Promise of the Holy Spirit is the end result is how the individual behaves through his or her trials, all of these requirements can be proven

Is the Holy Spirt in the world unknown
is the comforter in the Church yes
all this can be proven is scripture
By comparing scripture with scripture, or in this case spiritual things with spiritual things
an earthly story with a heavenly meaning

 

[Bill]

clarification
a correction on my part
some explanation in what I know, if I may
their two, one is the spirit of God the comforter
second is the Holy Spirit, the Godhead

It God the Fathe
God the Son, and the Holy Spirit
in this order

The Holy Spirit may be working in the body of Christ, the Saints

to receive the Holy Spirit, there are requirements

first, understand one must cry out the scriptures to the Lord
Psalm 102:1 (NKJV) A Prayer of the afflicted, when he is overwhelmed and pours out his complaint before the LORD. Hear my prayer, O LORD, And let my cry come to You.

John 14:6 (NKJV) Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

John 6:44 (NKJV) No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.

requirements you must be draws

John 15:16 (NKJV) You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.

requirements you must choose

clarification
requirements trials
Chastisement and Chastening, and receive instruction 2 Timothy 3:16
Discipline is the highest of all, disobedience is failure
Luke 5:32 (NKJV) I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."

The Promise of the Holy Spirit is the end result is how the individual behaves through his or her trials, all of these requirements can be proven

Is the Holy Spirt in the world unknown
is the comforter in the Church yes
all this can be proven is scripture
By comparing scripture with scripture, or in this case spiritual things with spiritual things
an earthly story with a heavenly meaning

You are close on some, but not completely correct.

There are no requirements for recieving the Holy Spirit. I. E. John the Baptist.
However, having the Holy Spirit within you, it will cause you to burn in God's Love. For the Holy Spirit Is the Love of the Father to the Son, and the Son's Love to the Father.

The Holy Spirit always draws us to the love of God.

the Holy Spirit is not given because of personal trials, it is given when your heart has become fertile ground.

there are some, even here at talk Jesus, who have been Baptised with the Holy Spirit, but did not recieve the Holy Spirit because thier hearts are hardened.

Forgiveness to others and acceptance of forgiveness is the key to a fertile heart.

John 15:16 is even speaking the very same thing." You did not choose me, but i chose you" and the fruit being spoken of, must be grown in a fertile heart

 

[TheWordIsOne]

You are close on some, but not completely correct.

There are no requirements for recieving the Holy Spirit. I. E. John the Baptist.
However, having the Holy Spirit within you, it will cause you to burn in God's Love. For the Holy Spirit Is the Love of the Father to the Son, and the Son's Love to the Father.

The Holy Spirit always draws us to the love of God.

the Holy Spirit is not given because of personal trials, it is given when your heart has become fertile ground.

there are some, even here at talk Jesus, who have been Baptised with the Holy Spirit, but did not recieve the Holy Spirit because thier hearts are hardened.

Forgiveness to others and acceptance of forgiveness is the key to a fertile heart.

John 15:16 is even speaking the very same thing." You did not choose me, but i chose you" and the fruit being spoken of, must be grown in a fertile heart

you are close but one thing' it inappropriate one to say about the Holy Spirit can do or not, for this cause many fall short that I wish to say, not I do not know yet, but the Holy Spirit can speak himself where no man cannot comprehend, we may indulge his works and I say lately with upmost humility give him what is required and it is His business, the only understand I would give is my testimony and what the scripture says giving to me through Christ and no man, for there are sensitive statement not be the judge
this is only my opinion

John 15:16" You did not choose me, but I decided to choose you"

 

[Bill]

you are close but one thing' it inappropriate one to say about the Holy Spirit can do or not, for this cause many fall short that I wish to say, not I do not know yet, but the Holy Spirit can speak himself where no man cannot comprehend, we may indulge his works and I say lately with upmost humility give him what is required and it is His business, the only understand I would give is my testimony and what the scripture says giving to me through Christ and no man, for there are sensitive statement not be the judge
this is only my opinion

John 15:16" You did not choose me, but I decided to choose you"

How is it inappropriate, as i have witnessed the movement of the Holy Spirit many times. And recognize when i receave the urgings of the Holy Spirit

 

[TheWordIsOne]

How is it inappropriate, as i have witnessed the movement of the Holy Spirit many times. And recognize when i receave the urgings of the Holy Spirit

which spirit?
2 Corinthians 11:14 (NKJV) And no wonder! For Satan, himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

 

[Bill]

which spirit?
2 Corinthians 11:14 (NKJV) And no wonder! For Satan, himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

Do you truly want to learn anything or do you only wish to challenge everything ?

Did you not listen to my statement?

I purposefully stated the Holy Spirit, now how many spirits in Scripture are called the Holy Spirit.

Now I think that you're a fairly intelligent person, and I think that you already know the answer for yourself of what I stated.

And if you can quote me the issue that the devil has you can also quote me the passages where Paul is talking about the Holy Spirit, which is also found in 2 Corinthians

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Do you truly want to learn anything or do you only wish to challenge everything ?

Did you not listen to my statement?

I purposefully stated the Holy Spirit, now how many spirits in Scripture are called the Holy Spirit.

Now I think that you're a fairly intelligent person, and I think that you already know the answer for yourself of what I stated.

And if you can quote me the issue that the devil has you can also quote me the passages where Paul is talking about the Holy Spirit, which is also found in 2 Corinthians

Greetings
My words are not to offend is to search all things

In 1 Corinthians 2:10 (NKJV) But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
A question if I may, what does it mean to be filled with the Holy Spirit actually!

and we know a believer tests all things, event Satan
Matthew 4:7 (NKJV) Jesus said to him, "It is written again, 'You shall not tempt the LORD your God.' "
Matthew 4:10-11 (NKJV) Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' "
Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.

a believer is equipped what all that is spiritual
Hebrews 13:21 (NKJV) make you complete in every good work to do His will, working in you what is well-pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 (NKJV) All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

the challenge is part of the game
1 Thessalonians 5:21 (NKJV) Test all things; hold fast what is good.
1 Thessalonians 5:20 (NKJV) Do not despise prophecies.
Job 34:4 (NKJV) Let us choose justice for ourselves; Let us know among ourselves what is good.

 

[Bill]

Greetings
My words are not to offend is to search all things

In 1 Corinthians 2:10 (NKJV) But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
A question if I may, what does it mean to be filled with the Holy Spirit actually!

and we know a believer tests all things, event Satan
Matthew 4:7 (NKJV) Jesus said to him, "It is written again, 'You shall not tempt the LORD your God.' "
Matthew 4:10-11 (NKJV) Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' "
Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.

a believer is equipped what all that is spiritual
Hebrews 13:21 (NKJV) make you complete in every good work to do His will, working in you what is well-pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 (NKJV) All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

the challenge is part of the game
1 Thessalonians 5:21 (NKJV) Test all things; hold fast what is good.
1 Thessalonians 5:20 (NKJV) Do not despise prophecies.
Job 34:4 (NKJV) Let us choose justice for ourselves; Let us know among ourselves what is good.

Do you know that Jesus , the Holy Spirit and the Father make up the One God? That they are not 3 facets of the same God but are three separate individuals, and yet are One.

You could liken God to a candle. The wick is like the Father, hidden to us but is revealed to us by His Son Jesus. The wax is Jesus, and we see much of Jesus. Then the fire is that of the Holy Spirit. And it is the Holy Spirit that draws us to both the Father and the Son.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Do you know that Jesus , the Holy Spirit and the Father make up the One God? That they are not 3 facets of the same God but are three separate individuals, and yet are One.

You could liken God to a candle. The wick is like the Father, hidden to us but is revealed to us by His Son Jesus. The wax is Jesus, and we see much of Jesus. Then the fire is that of the Holy Spirit. And it is the Holy Spirit that draws us to both the Father and the Son.

Greetings ​

that's a nice way, it is like a lamp unto my feet​

Psalm 119: 105​

I see the Essence of the Godhead as the flow of water ​

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how God can be three persons in one, by looking at the motion of water in zero gravity separate, one body of water into three parts, by never losing its essence. ​

In this manner, we can find an understanding of how God is one of the same.​

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For our understanding, God is fullness Godhead as one​

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As a body of water, God is the fullness of all​

The Essence of Godhead​

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In this view we see the one body of water, separating from one into two parts​

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one body of water separated into three parts​

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three-body of water, but always remain as one​

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Because we cannot comprehend, what or how Christ as from the one the fullness become a man in the flesh, by one having a spiritual mind like Christ and thinking Celestial-things.
In Hebrews 5:14, But the natural man receiveth, not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
So that’s why the level understands must can from the mind of Christ, that why we see in Philippians Paul express his love in our thinking.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you which were also in Christ Jesus…….
As Essence of God remain as one, He Overshadows anyone or anything

Christ as One
Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee, I am well pleased.

John 1:13-14 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will neither of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God (Celestial)
And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only( begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Matthew 1:18 was found with the child of the Holy Ghost.

Luke 1: 34-35 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luke 1: 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Most Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Overshadow- Superimposition an already-existing the image Celestial being a person just as Christ was overshadowed by the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, Mary was the power of the Most Highest; remember as one cell a copy himself, as I see

Colossians 2:2-3 that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love and attaining to all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the knowledge of the mystery of God, both of the Father and of Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

Hebrews 9:23 Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
Note: is to try to understand in some way, How God can become one in the flesh, by using the understanding of two worlds, hopefully through the Holy Spirit.
{1 Corinthians 2:10}
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.