My son is playing demonic video games, help!

[vangard]

About the demons in that video game: I just remembered that they were actually mentioned as demons. Also, in my previous comment (post #33) I named only a few of them: Satan and Lucifer are mentioned and also holy names (angels, archangels, messiah...). So I don't think the reason why he said it's not demonic is ignorance because it couldn't be more evident! I think what he meant is probably more like "it's not dangerous for us in the real life" but we know it's not the case. Satan (demons) will use any door that we open to come in (even small windows!), even words coming out from our mouth.

If Christians were a little more informed about those things they wouldn't fall so easily into all those traps. Satanists are teaching their children the Bible and they know it better than many believers.

In Romans 16.19 We read : "But I desire to have you wise in that which is good, but innocent in that which is evil".

Some people use that verse to justify that we shouldn't know much about the evil things, but Paul told us to be innocent concerning those things, not ignorant. Some translations say "simple" instead of innocent, but the sense is to be found "not guilty" of those things.

 

[love_yeshua]

That's a very good point, love_yeshua. I understand what you mean, but I think after 2000 years of biblical teaching and spreading the Gospel, we should know better. Are we spending more time in doing picnics and other "christians activities" than really teaching and exhort each other? Since I arrived in the US, I'm disappointed to see how believers are just doing their little church things (specially here in the so-called Bible Belt): gathering in a place, sing a few praise songs, hear a rudimental message and then "Ok guys, see you next week!". In the best case, they meet for lunch. Most meetings I saw here are more about food and drinks, than prayer, teaching and sharing on real spiritual subjects (and I'm pretty sure it's the same thing everywhere: it's just the condition of today's church I guess). That's why believers don't know their enemy.

I wish a website like this one could help to make a difference? ...

Well I'm not sure what exactly is done in typical Christian churches, but I know nowadays there are many "youth groups", "womens' groups" etc. Everyone is being put into "groups" where they just do "activities" as you rightly pointed out.

If there is a section on the website for getting informed about these religions, then I'm sure it will help a lot of people. If we fall for the really obvious, then what hope is there when we encounter stuff that is actually clever and not obviously dangerous?

 

[love_yeshua]

About the demons in that video game: I just remembered that they were actually mentioned as demons. Also, in my previous comment (post #33) I named only a few of them: Satan and Lucifer are mentioned and also holy names (angels, archangels, messiah...). So I don't think the reason why he said it's not demonic is ignorance because it couldn't be more evident! I think what he meant is probably more like "it's not dangerous for us in the real life" but we know it's not the case. Satan (demons) will use any door that we open to come in (even small windows!), even words coming out from our mouth.

If Christians were a little more informed about those things they wouldn't fall so easily into all those traps. Satanists are teaching their children the Bible and they know it better than many believers.

In Romans 16.19 We read : "But I desire to have you wise in that which is good, but innocent in that which is evil".

Some people use that verse to justify that we shouldn't know much about the evil things, but Paul told us to be innocent concerning those things, not ignorant. Some translations say "simple" instead of innocent, but the sense is to be found "not guilty" of those things.

A lot of Christians really don't believe in demons. When I say that, I mean they don't think that a person's lifestyle, certain objects, symbols. music, dances, literature, TV shows etc can attract demons into an environment. But the reality is, demons exist, witchcraft is real and demons don't stay in one place. They move around, they walk beside us on the street and in our yards, they are in all the buildings we visit and they are in people we talk to. For a believer to be ignorant of these things is asking for trouble.

 

[vangard]

A lot of Christians really don't believe in demons. When I say that, I mean they don't think that a person's lifestyle, certain objects, symbols. music, dances, literature, TV shows etc can attract demons into an environment. But the reality is, demons exist, witchcraft is real and demons don't stay in one place. They move around, they walk beside us on the street and in our yards, they are in all the buildings we visit and they are in people we talk to. For a believer to be ignorant of these things is asking for trouble.

You are absolutely right! I even saw pastors (in some denominations) who were nice persons and willing to be helpful for the Kingdom of God but couldn't really because they just don't see the spiritual warfare and the demonic activities! ...and it's right in front of their eyes!!!

This is mainly because of the false teachings they received. To me, they're like soldiers walking on a mined field. Even if you try to explain or even share your own true experiences, they won't listen because they've been theologically brainwashed by false doctors. They rationalize (and/or symbolize) everything that sounds "supernatural" in the Scriptures, including miracles. The root of their problem is, in fact, incredulity. I certainly won't follow them...

 

[lawrenceb]

Someone mentioned symbols. Yes, society is manipulated not through language via words, but through sorcery via symbols. Sorcery is a form of witchcraft.

Also,

And maybe it's also a coincidence if, in that same game, you see black and white checkboard floors everywhere, just like in the massonic lodges? What would you say about the Freemasons, their level system, their oaths, all their symbols and rituals? They're just playing? ...

The purpose of the "checkboard floors everywhere" phenomenon is to get you to dissociate - to dream a little dream, to get you into that dream state, an altered/distorted vision of reality, raising your susceptibility factor. The optic nerve is drawn to the contrasting pattern, where they can more effectively deliver their message.

MANY things are violent by design in today's culture. "Create the problem you need" is the oldest trick in the book. The enemy uses trauma-based fear; that is his control platform. We're talking about trauma-based mind control. Satan hits you with the trauma, then layers-in the fear programming. It can be done individually, or to an entire nation. The tactic is the same.

 

[bikinigirl]

Sometimes I didn't like when my dad would take things away like my Harry Potter books I got from school for winning a contest. But I am glad he did now, I actually thank him for that a lot. You have gotta be the mother and take them away, he will find something else he enjoys just as much. I thought when my Harry Potter books were gone I would be so bored but then I found dancing and a passion and love that's been amazing. So, keep the faith and be his mother, that's what god wants you to do.

 

[vangard]

I thought when my Harry Potter books were gone I would be so bored but then I found dancing and a passion and love that's been amazing. So, keep the faith and be his mother, that's what god wants you to do.

Hi Bikini! Thanks for your comment. I don't have children and I used to play video games myself a lot (see thread#33) maybe you should send your testimony to Cross_11, the mother who start that topic at page 1, to encourage her. God bless you!

 

[bikinigirl]

Hi Bikini! Thanks for your comment. I don't have children and I used to play video games myself a lot (see thread#33) maybe you should send your testimony to Cross_11, the mother who start that topic at page 1, to encourage her. God bless you!

Thanks vangard, I hope it helps. Its just important to stay away from stuff like that I think, its hard for kids to have games taken away, but they are evil and demonic so they are better without them. I just hope it goes smooth, finding another hobby helps.

 

[Otaku]

I like video games, but I never got into that kind of extreme..... topic.
I would suggest paying more attention to new games being released for your sons' platforms/consoles, reading reviews & gaining info before it's released. If you're seriously worried check the rating!

All kinds of research can be done months before the game is released, that's how I decided to buy numerous games.

I'd also suggest looking at popular games that are already released for the various platforms/consoles available, this can let you know what other types of games will be coming out for his platform/console.

Hope this helps you out a bit.

 

[lawrenceb]

vangard is spot on.

I went back and re-read this thread. There are a few quotes I’d like to comment on.

My wife and I have an addictions ministry. Part of my gift, my calling, involves being able to see the spirit of sorcery in the countenances of those who are addicted. The addiction may involve drugs, both OTC (over-the-counter) and recreational; alcohol; nicotine; caffeine; etc. The spirit of sorcery, or pharmakeia, from which we get our medical words pharmacy and pharmaceutical, may involve drugs, but not always. Its primary characteristic is DECEPTION.

Jesus Christ has appeared to me and also to two of my children. And Satan has appeared to me.

Video games. Scripture tells us: I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes; and take heed what ye hear.

There is no other legitimate purpose for any human action than the advancement of the Kingdom of God. For example, Patriotism (advancing the interests of a political coalition) is wrong; Humanism (advancing your own personal interests) is wrong; Satanism (advancing demonic interests) is wrong. Since all action runs to some purpose, if the purpose is not the building of God's Kingdom, then it is to build a rival Kingdom. There is no neutrality. There is one truth; everything else is a lie.

So, where do video games fit into that?

I used to play video games a lot and I had to destroy that one. It is indeed very evil....

Persona3 was still wrapped and stayed like that for a few weeks. I'd like to warn whoever will read this: this is a very dangerous game. Even if this might sound ridiculous to certain people, they don't see it because it's a spiritual matter. It's comparable to Oui-ja boards and spiritism. If you're a true believer and if you have spiritual discernment, you would certainly not let your children play with stuff like that.

I had 2 nightmares in a row (I can count maybe 5 nightmares in total in my whole life - I'm almost 50 - so it's very unusual)....

I realized I was dead and that I was't in heaven (the name Tantalus symbolically refers to hell and also to human sacrifices in mythology).

The strange thing about this is: when I had that nightmare, I hadn't played the game yet and it was still unwrapped!!! It's only when I started to play that I recognized the wrought iron elevator of the dark world Tantalus and the pale blue light... the Holy Spirit also warned me not to play it. I still had the time to see many things in the game that say a lot about the author's purpose...

Yes, since EVERY ACTION runs to some purpose, again, what is the PURPOSE of video games?

I also had a similar experience with a video. I viewed one video, then bought the sequel, watched it and that night, I had one of the strongest demonic visitations I had ever experienced up to that point in my life. I took that video outside of the house and left it there.

Every sacrifice will seem insignificant when we meet Jesus

Yes. In truth, God’s word says that OBEDIENCE is better than sacrifice.

We believers have to stop being so clueless, because there are certain things we will see literally everywhere. How can we not know about this basic stuff??

Satan’s game plan has always been one of DECEPTION.

I wish a website like this one could help to make a difference? ...

We overcome Satan by the blood of Jesus Christ and the word of our testimony, and we don’t care that others might not “like” us for it, indeed, that they might even kill us for it (John 16:2).

So I’m giving my testimony on this and I don’t care about the consequences. All praise and glory and honour to the King of kings!

If there is a section on the website for getting informed about these religions, then I'm sure it will help a lot of people. If we fall for the really obvious, then what hope is there when we encounter stuff that is actually clever and not obviously dangerous?

The enemy is the most subtle beast of the field (Genesis).

A lot of Christians really don't believe in demons.

Because evangelical Christianity is asleep on this.

When I say that, I mean they don't think that a person's lifestyle, certain objects, symbols. music, dances, literature, TV shows etc can attract demons into an environment. But the reality is, demons exist, witchcraft is real and demons don't stay in one place. They move around, they walk beside us on the street and in our yards, they are in all the buildings we visit and they are in people we talk to. For a believer to be ignorant of these things is asking for trouble.

Absolutely and completely true.

they just don't see the spiritual warfare and the demonic activities! ...and it's right in front of their eyes!!!

The god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not. (Note that Satan knows a lot about the mind. He’s had thousands of years to study it.). Satan is the god of this world; his kingdom has mapped out the function of the human brain. They know how to target their mind-bending package...

This is mainly because of the false teachings they received.

Yes. The body of Christ is hemorrhaging because they have failed to remove false teachings when they first appeared in their midst.

To me, they're like soldiers walking on a mined field. Even if you try to explain or even share your own true experiences, they won't listen because they've been theologically brainwashed by false doctors. They rationalize (and/or symbolize) everything that sounds "supernatural" in the Scriptures, including miracles. The root of their problem is, in fact, incredulity. I certainly won't follow them...

Soldiers, yes. This is spiritual warfare (Ephesians chap. 6). Dress for success!

Sometimes I didn't like when my dad would take things away like my Harry Potter books I got from school for winning a contest. But I am glad he did now, I actually thank him for that a lot. You have gotta be the mother and take them away, he will find something else he enjoys just as much. I thought when my Harry Potter books were gone I would be so bored but then I found dancing and a passion and love that's been amazing. So, keep the faith and be his mother, that's what god wants you to do.

The Harry Potter books are manuals of witchcraft for young people. The book contains actual names of devils. Now get this: one or more devils are assigned to follow each and every Potter book that one willingly brings into his home.

 

[Shutterbug]

I note that the OP has not made a reply to anything. Does anyone remember the Ouiji Board? There are television shows on TV which toy with the interaction of demons. One thing is for sure, Jesus is kept very much in the background. Many video games are as much about destruction as entertainment. I used to purchase interactive games which did not serve such a purpose. I preferred educational and my wife did mange to find one Christian based video game for Nintendo. About the only video game I remained with is Flight Simulator. If things go badly wrong, you can always restart the flight. It doesn't quite work that way in the real world.

A good entertainer works in such a manner which keep you coming back for more. Game designers are little different. The best thing about something like Warcraft or Halo 4, and others whose titles I forget, is that you can simply shut off the game and everything is as it should be. The real world can get ugly, so fantasy becomes a tool to invoke something we would normally not do. It's not that kids are purposefully being disobedient; sometimes they just get caught up in it because they think it's really neat.

However, I will concede that a line must be drawn somewhere if we wish to keep our objectives. Someone who is 16 can put up a more intense battle about it than someone who is 6. There are many activities which can keep us separated from Jesus, but it comes down to whom we prefer to make happy: us, or him.

Cheers,
John

 

[lawrenceb]

The Well-Washed Brain or the Renewed Mind?

The fall of the human race was initiated because Eve listened to someone else's voice, not just the voice of God.

But there is a chorus of other voices competing with the word of God for our time, attention, affection and mind. The Bible says that, "the god of this world hath blinded the minds of those which believe not..." (2 Cor. 4:4). How does he do this? How does he affect the mind?

Your mind is in your head. The two eye holes and two ear holes are the means by which it receives input. Eve was seduced by the tree because it was "pleasant to the eyes." This is why we 'watch' the weather and news on TV, rather than listen to it on the radio. Since it worked so well for Eve, the serpent packages his mind-numbing message in a pleasant-to-the-eyes package.

If you analyzed specifically WHAT each unsaved person has exposed his eyes and ear to over the course of his life, to determine what has caused his blinded condition, you would find that the average person has subjected himself to between 100,000 and 200,000 hours, out of his approximately 600,000-hour life, opening his ears and eyes to the voice of TV, videos, commercials, news, newspapers, magazines, direct mail; advertising and commercially produced electronic music. A child sees 18,000 hours of TV by the age of 18 years, compared to 12,000 hours of school.

The Bible says, "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes." (Psa. 101:3). "Take heed what ye hear..." (Mark 4:24). As Christians, we can attempt to do that, but what if the enemy were to be as the serpent in the garden? The Bible says that "the serpent was more subtil than any..." (Gen. 3:1), and that satan is "...the prince of the power of the air" (Eph. 2.2).

The effects on the brain produced by video games are identical to those who, for example, practice TM (transcendental meditation). Rather than "transforming and renewing our mind in Christ," we 'conform our mind to the world' and open a portal for the enemy to legally oppress us when we watch those images.

They call it "programming" for a reason...

"Come out from among them, touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you, says the Lord."

 

[StealthCJDB]

i used to be a gamer, and this seems like it could be a hit or miss. it would be like playing Dante's inferno, where the guy is redeemed and saves his wife using a cross as a weapon
if your son is old enough so he can discern the right from wrong then you can talk to him, but if he's to young you might be the bad guy even talk to him
if your son is believing the game and allowing the game to influence him then you might want to talk to him
but then at the same time, try to not say "im taking the game because its evil' his response would be when shes not around ill play it with my friends at there house
its what i did when i wasnt allowed to play or watch Yu-Gi-Oh, or the Simpsons

 

[HarpT]

God bless you all for taking your time to read this.

I recently found my son playing a video game called "Persona 3." I was doing house chores while he was playing it in the living room. It seemed like a child friendly and educational game at first. The characters were at a school and learning math. The next thing I know, they were shooting themselves in the head! The characters had what looked like guns and they'd put them up to their heads and shoot. I got worried, so I did some research on the game. The guns are actually "evokers" used to call upon a "persona." I'm worried that my son will one day find a gun and try this out, or try to evoke evil spirits in other ways. I learned that there is a sequel called Persona 4 where the teenagers call a "persona" by using tarot cards. This goes against the Lord. As I kept doing research, I learned that these games are a part of a bigger series called "Shin Megami Tensei." What I learned about this series is horrifying.

There are games called "Devil Children," "Devil Survivor," "Devil Summoner," and "Digital Devil Saga" that are part of this series! This got me really worried about what my son was playing. In these games you summon and fight "demons." These demons look really similar to what my son was summoning as "personas."

What can I do? I'm scared that if I take away the games, he might try preforming these things in real life and rebel. But if I don't take them away, he'll be felling into the hands of the devil! Please pray for my son!

First of all, let me say that I find it hilarious that the only post the thread starter has made is his initial inquiry. Since then he has been given numerous conflicting opinions about what to do and various tangents of self absorbed discussions have occurred between people "responding" to his thread. It doesn't surprise me that after reading any of this he probably decided not to answer and went to look else where for support.

Having stating this, my first bit of advice to you, Cross_11, is not to get upset or flustered about this. That's just what the devil wants. He wants to get to you through what you see your son is doing, so don't give Satan the satisfaction. Secondly, you need not worry about a video game or any other agency through which Satan might work resulting in a change in God's plan for your son's life. Let me tell you something, when God plans something it happens just exactly as He planned it and there's nothing anyone can do about it. So, don't let this little event cause you to fear.

After you get this part down you'll be much more likely to actually hear what the Lord is telling you to do. Heck, for all I know (or can speculate upon) if you ignore it your son will lose interest because it's not getting a reaction from you. I'm not saying this is the case, it just goes to show that no one can really tell you what you ought to know about your situation.

And let me add that it doesn't matter if you did something and the result is not what you wanted or anticipated. God already knew about that too. The circumstances that God Himself will create so that His true identity can be communicated and understood by your son and all others whom God has called unto Himself will not be avoided. It is not always how we think we will get there, but thinking we know before God shows us doesn't make it happen either. Have faith. God is working for you and through you, remember?

 

[rag4aCrown]

Blessings in the Lord;
Who bought him the game?
Should one not look in the mirror at self first; before pointing the finger at how one is using the item that you handed him.
Well, everybody else has one. Yes, and everybody else is being distracted from God as well.
What do you want for your children; the treasures and vanities of the world or the wisdom and understanding of God.
Little cattle being led to slaughter. Amen. Follow everybody else, it must be the way cause everyone is doing it.
I tell you, Nay. FOLLOW JESUS, He is the way, the truth, and the life.
HE did it; He is our example God sent forth for us to follow.
We put other things in their hands and by doing so, we took God's Word out of their hand.
You truly want help? Lay down self and the lust of the world with self.
We are taught to be disobedient by those around us; because they are being disobedient to God's Word also.
All praise, honor, and glory be to God. Amen.

 

[Nagisa Sagan]

God bless you all for taking your time to read this.

I recently found my son playing a video game called "Persona 3." I was doing house chores while he was playing it in the living room. It seemed like a child friendly and educational game at first. The characters were at a school and learning math. The next thing I know, they were shooting themselves in the head! The characters had what looked like guns and they'd put them up to their heads and shoot. I got worried, so I did some research on the game. The guns are actually "evokers" used to call upon a "persona." I'm worried that my son will one day find a gun and try this out, or try to evoke evil spirits in other ways. I learned that there is a sequel called Persona 4 where the teenagers call a "persona" by using tarot cards. This goes against the Lord. As I kept doing research, I learned that these games are a part of a bigger series called "Shin Megami Tensei." What I learned about this series is horrifying.

There are games called "Devil Children," "Devil Survivor," "Devil Summoner," and "Digital Devil Saga" that are part of this series! This got me really worried about what my son was playing. In these games you summon and fight "demons." These demons look really similar to what my son was summoning as "personas."

What can I do? I'm scared that if I take away the games, he might try preforming these things in real life and rebel. But if I don't take them away, he'll be felling into the hands of the devil! Please pray for my son!

Ok, so i actually made an account to reply to this, i'm fourteen years old, i have a very strong relationship with God and he is my top priority 24/7 and i play the Persona games, i play the Shin Megami Tensei series, and i do not think you should worry too much on this, but at the same time i don't know your son so i couldn't really say.
I know the difference between good and bad, and i know what i'm comfortable and un-comfortable with playing in terms of spirituality, profanity, etc.
I know that the Shin Megami Tensei series isn't Godly, but i also know that these games are purely fiction and for entertainment.
I think if you don't play any games/watch any movies/read any books Because they might have a few suggestive things then you'll never have any fun with anything.
I personally think you should make sure he knows "Persona's" Are not real, you cannot summon them with a gun or "Evoker" And i think you should ask him if he knows what he is playing, and make sure he's comfortable playing them and comfortable enough in his relationship with God that he won't be lead astray, i don't think you should take the games away, just make sure that he knows right from wrong, non-fiction from fiction, and then it's up to him, that's really all a parent can do. I wouldn't take the games away because one: if he's comfortable enough in his spirituality to play them then he should be fine, and two: It could make him resent you, especially if he is comfortable enough to play them and knows what he's playing and you still take it away.
I hope i helped and i will definitely be praying for your son.

 

[Nagisa Sagan]

Games like this invite demons into a person. Warn your son and burn the game.

I think you are completely wrong and you need to understand the difference between fiction and reality, playing a video game will not invite demons into a person, i am Christian and i play the series and i think if you're mindful to what you're playing then you're fine. Do not say such illogical things, please.

 

[Nagisa Sagan]

Satan can and does use such things. Something like this opens up the person to accepting the idea that they can summon other beings. Children (even teens & adults) imitate what they see.
lawrenceb is right, these types of things are demonic. You would do well to follow his advice.

IF a video game makes you accept the idea of Satan then you must be very influence-able and shouldn't even be on the internet. That's like saying "I saw someone on the news set a house on fire and get away with it, i should do that"

 

[Travis]

I think you are completely wrong and you need to understand the difference between fiction and reality, playing a video game will not invite demons into a person, i am Christian and i play the series and i think if you're mindful to what you're playing then you're fine. Do not say such illogical things, please.

It is quite logical though. What he said most likely came from experience. My experience also tells me that playing certain video games can most definitely invite the demonic into your life. That's just how it is. Some people are just more sensitive to it happening than others.

¯\(°_o)/¯

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

It is quite logical though. What he said most likely came from experience. My experience also tells me that playing certain video games can most definitely invite the demonic into your life. That's just how it is. Some people are just more sensitive to it happening than others.

It's been my experience that bringing children into this world does the very same thing.
Instilling fear is no way to teach or preach.
I would suggest to parents that they learn the game alongside their child without religious preconceptions
so you have an understanding of what your child is going to experience.and how they might feel about certain aspects.
After all you brought your child into this world knowing the wide range of human experience he would face.
Remember that same world you expose your child to made that game that refers to a few of the dark things that will be thrust upon us in this world.
If a child can't get answers to common questions from a parent well that's a door for someone or something else to fill that need.


Scripture says"there has no temptation taken you except that which "is common to man".
Every temptation is common as in "common cold",common greed,common fears.
Those who seek the demonic are sensitive to it those who seek God are sensitive to it.
You don't even need a computer you just need to be awake.
The next generation needs to be prepared for anything and they must operate out of" love's courage" not "fears handcuff's".