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Nashville School Shooting

B-A-C

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Every time one of these stories happens, my heart goes out to the kids and the families involved.
In this particular case, it wasn't a school child who did the shooting, but rather an adult who used to attend the school.
3 children dead. 3 adults dead... and the shooter who was killed by police responding to the scene.

It's hard to imagine what goes through someone mind to make them do something like this.
In this case it appears that it is a transgender person. Maybe that may not have any bearing on this incident, I don't know.
But it does seem like the further people are from Biblical truths... the more likely they are to be involved in these things.

In case, we should pray for these families.
This is supposedly a Christian Presbyterian school. From what I understand they are open to teaching children
LGBT and transgender indoctrination.
 
Every time one of these stories happens, my heart goes out to the kids and the families involved.
In this particular case, it wasn't a school child who did the shooting, but rather an adult who used to attend the school.
3 children dead. 3 adults dead... and the shooter who was killed by police responding to the scene.

It's hard to imagine what goes through someone mind to make them do something like this.
In this case it appears that it is a transgender person. Maybe that may not have any bearing on this incident, I don't know.
But it does seem like the further people are from Biblical truths... the more likely they are to be involved in these things.

In case, we should pray for these families.
This is supposedly a Christian Presbyterian school. From what I understand they are open to teaching children
LGBT and transgender indoctrination.
Then they are a Christian school in name, only if they are open to teaching those things to their students
 
Then they are a Christian school in name, only if they are open to teaching those things to their students

I agree, but is that just for this school? Or all the "so-called" Christian denominations that accept LGBT?

United Methodist, Evangelical Lutheran, Most Presbyterian/Anglican and C of E are the ones that come to mind here.
 
Guys, I believe in the Word of God. It says we should receive all who come; just as Christ does. But, I believe we should not coddle to their personal sensitivities; which would be having respector of persons. But rather, respect God and His written word; and teach them the truth about what it says about LGBT/transgender, hiding nothing. God is able to save them too.
So by not receiving them because of who "they" are...i believe that is called judging, rather than loving.

Jesus came for those that needed healing (a physician). Right?
He went in a sat to eat with publicians and sinners. Right?
Or is that only in my bible?

I know this is just a horrible matter, and hard for us to accept. But Truth is truth. It is an abomination to God and he detest it. They need to be told that, and what the outcome of their life will be if they do not repent and turn from their ....sins.

All praise, glory, and honor be unto God. Amen
 
Their life on this earth may be fine… but their eternal life is what is in question. By not telling them the Truth, we are being unloving, and it is God who will judge them, not us! What did Jesus say to the woman caught in adultery? Did He say, “ Go, and sin no more”, or did He say, “ Keep on sinning as that sin is now acceptable in our society.”
 
I believe in the Word of God. It says we should receive all who come; just as Christ does.

I don't think anyone here is saying otherwise.

He went in a sat to eat with publicians and sinners. Right?

He didn't eat with them so He would become like they are, He sat with them, so they would become like He is.

They need to be told that, and what the outcome of their life will be if they do not repent and turn from their ....sins.

Amen.
 
Their life on this earth may be fine… but their eternal life is what is in question. By not telling them the Truth, we are being unloving, and it is God who will judge them, not us! What did Jesus say to the woman caught in adultery? Did He say, “ Go, and sin no more”, or did He say, “ Keep on sinning as that sin is now acceptable in our society.”
We have all been saved, or the cross would be in vain; now saved to eternal life or eternal damnation. There is the choice. And it is our choice.
However, by not presenting the truth to them,,,for whatever reason it may be; we are having respector of persons. Best to respect God and his written word and tell them whats up. I have told several whats up. Now they know the truth and are without excuse when their judgment comes.
If we walk on by and say nothing; we are in danger of the judgment.
I had to tell my own nephew whats up. He had legally married a man. His man asked me and I told him. They even went to church with me so he could get a second opinion. They know the truth, times two, now they have no cloak for their sin. The choice is theirs.

All praise, glory and honor be unto God. Amen
 
Are you saying everyone is saved? ( Universalism )
Does heaven or hell feel better to you?

Perhaps we can only agree that heaven is eternal life...
Well then, what is hell? eternal death...that's not accurate. The only thing going to die is this flesh body.
Every soul on earth returns to God who made it; spiritual beings...to go where?
Eternal life; to be with the Father where he is; or
Eternal damnation (hell); where the fire is never quenched, and the worm never quits eating.


I don't know what universalism is.
So please don't put me in a denomination, for I do not belong to denomination; I belong to God.
 
Does heaven or hell feel better to you?

Perhaps we can only agree that heaven is eternal life...
Well then, what is hell? eternal death...that's not accurate. The only thing going to die is this flesh body.
Every soul on earth returns to God who made it; spiritual beings...to go where?
Eternal life; to be with the Father where he is; or
Eternal damnation (hell); where the fire is never quenched, and the worm never quits eating.

All of that is irrelevant, and has nothing to do with my question.
Are you saying everyone is saved?
 
Their life on this earth may be fine… but their eternal life is what is in question. By not telling them the Truth, we are being unloving, and it is God who will judge them, not us! What did Jesus say to the woman caught in adultery? Did He say, “ Go, and sin no more”, or did He say, “ Keep on sinning as that sin is now acceptable in our society.”

It is true we must warn the world of the problem of sin, but HOW we do it impacts the Gospel.

I believe the way preaching is done with the message "people who don't believe will go to hell" is not the way Jesus or His disciples preached the Gospel. It is not even true, because its sin that brings death, and sin has nothing to do with religious belief.

Why did the adulterous woman accept Jesus? Because He was the only one who didn't say to her, you will go to hell or you need to die for your sin. This sort of condemnation pushes people away from salvation, not towards it.

Read the Book of Acts, you will see that the disciples carried a primary message of "saving yourselves from this world". If we don't let people understand why they need to save themselves from this world, they will not accept Jesus. How do we help them understand? We tell them the reason why this world is so messed up. Not a vague concept called sin, but the exact reason: selfishness. Humanity's selfishness is why suffering prevails. Selfishness is the driver behind all kinds of sin. I'm sure even a non-believer would agree with this.

From there, a preacher can tell why Jesus' sacrifice is an act of selflessness intended as a role model for us. That God's intent is for all of us to live selflessly, and that humanity will continue to suffer as long as selfishness is tolerated.

It's no use telling a smoker that he will die, he will only resent anyone who tells him that, even if it is true. He needs to see his health or other smokers' health deteriorating to understand that he needs to quit smoking. Same thing with homosexuality, transgenderism etc. Instead of telling them hell is waiting for them, tell them that their actions will harm them, and if possible give them realistic examples.

Modern preaching that straightforwardly tell sinners that they are on their way to hell is not much different from the Pharisees who tried to stone to death the woman caught in adultery. Jesus did not approve of this at all.
 
Subject Heading:- Nashville School Shooting

Hello @B-A-C,

This event was planned way in advance, and the weaponry she had amassed for this was considerable. It would seem that she had investigated other schools before choosing this one, so that it was not a matter of personal grievance against the school. Being transgender in itself must impose a great deal of mental strain upon a person, and being different imposes it's own isolation: That must make an individual more vulnerable to the form of mental instability, which can lead to such anti-social extremes. It is a tragedy not only for those who lost their lives at her hands, and their families, but for her family too, who have to live with the consequences. What a waste of her life, as well as the lives she took. We can only pray that the resulting effects upon family, friends, and fellow pupils will not be damaging long term, but that healing will come to damaged lives and broken hearts.

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
Subject Heading:- Nashville School Shooting
* replies (#17 & #18)

'And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened,
and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes,
and a tree to be desired to make one wise,
she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat,
and gave also unto her husband with her;
and he did eat.'
(Gen 3:4-6)

Hello again, @B-A-C,

With the advancement of medical skills, it is now possible to do much more that we could ever have imagined. My Mother had a down-syndrome child in her late forties: Unlike today, she had no way of knowing of this condition before her child was born: therefore was not given the option, which is now given to every mother-to-be (in Britain at least), to abort that child. She would not have done so, and was saved the anguish of having that opportunity afforded her with the dreadful responsibility that it brings. He was a joy, and lived until he was 25 years of age.

What I am trying to say is that with the advancement of medical skill, comes great responsibility: and the ability to change a persons gender by medical intervention, and also through advance knowledge give the power of life or death, or surgical change, into the hands of vulnerable adults, is a consequence of it; which must be taken into account when we are applauding that advancement.

* With knowledge comes responsibility, and also accountability.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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Matthew 26:53
Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels?

Mark 5:9
"What is your name?" Jesus asked. "My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many."

Luke 8:29
For Jesus had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. Many times it had seized him, and though he was bound with chains and shackles, he had broken the chains and been driven by the demon into solitary places.

Luke 8:2
And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,

Matthew 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

Mark 16:9
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

1 Kings 22:22
…21Then a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD, and said, ‘I will entice him.’ ‘By what means?’ asked the LORD. 22And he replied, ‘I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets.’ ‘You will surely entice him and prevail,’ said the LORD. ‘Go and do it.’ 23So you see, the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours, and the LORD has pronounced disaster against you.”…


New King James Version
And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, he is in your hand, but spare his life.”

Are not these People, children and babies important too?
King James Bible Exodus 12:29
And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

King James Bible 2 kings 19:35
And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the LORD went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.

2 Samuel 24:16
But when the angel stretched out his hand to destroy Jerusalem, the LORD relented from the calamity and said to the angel who was destroying the people, "Enough! Withdraw your hand now!" At that time the angel of the LORD was by the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.

GOD is the one who Controls "The Death Angels hand!" now, that is the GOD that I know, For that is The GOD who is "Our FATHER" The same FATHER that "Jesus Christ" Our Elder Brother introduce me too, 9 years after I receive The Full Power of "THE Holy Ghost". And after years of Learning and Finally moving from FAITH to "TRUST" In what is Written and leaning not upon My own understanding and trusting no mortal man, But "GOD ALONE" and have come to The Full knowledge that "GOD is SOVEREIGN". and oh, what relief it prove to be to me. That "The FATHER is SOVEREIGN" and that The devil also works under his command! And IT IS RECORDED IN "BLACK AND WHITE" in a way that a mere Plow boy that drives the plow can understand.

Death obey's HIM, The winds Obey.s Him, the waters the rains the dust, the sun, the light, and the darkness obey's Him.

What a relief to come into The Knowledge of That and believe it in your total Being. Covid-19 obey.s HIM, the bugs, obeys Him, The virus obey's Him. every thing obeys Him but "Mankind" the Human race Defies Him, for it is all recorded and written down in a "BOOK". and what the outcome would be.
{Indicative And Imperative The Adoption}
1. Mercy
2. Grace
3. Salvation
4. Atonement
5. Justification

6. A Devine and Perfect Gift from The Father of LIGHTS
7. Damnation to many
8. ETERNAL LIFE to some.
9. Eternal Death to many.
10. A Share
Inheritance given and not earn. Final Destination, Eternity.:pensive:

For meat is only for "the Strong". and my "Load is LIGHT.":idea:

"I have many things to tell you, but you cannot bear them now"

I Know I cannot take anymore. But he knows how much we can bear. we don't.:pensive:
And I am tried. Laboring against these Forces, that many of us have to endure.
 
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