Nirmatrelvir Use and Severe Covid-19 Outcomes during the Omicron Surge - August 24, 2022

[Godbehonored]

It is fact that modern medicine has eliminated so much disease and suffering. It is absurd to suggest people should reject it.
I believe in being sensible.
I do not wish to upset you or anyone. Then again I certainly wouldn't ever suggest to anybody that when sick they ought to refuse medical treatment.
I only take medication when needed. I also take care of my diet, exercise and lifestyle. I believe getting recommended vaccines and being hygienic is part of wellbeing. Yes there is risk in vaccines as in everything. But the risk of not being vaccinated is far greater. Proved by the fall in covid infections and deaths after vaccines were introduced.

Do you really think the medical profession ought to stand by and let everyone get sick and many die?

People have DIED to the covid jabs. If the death was caused by a food product it ought to be taken off the shelf permanently. Yet the same is not being done to so called vaccines that aren’t vaccines. You’re essentially saying it’s ok to take a pseudo vaccine even when it’s already costing people’s lives. That is not being sensible and dying to the covid jab is not just some side effect. It’s lethal and deadly.

Your question is even more absurd. No one ever said about standing aside and not helping the sick. That was not the issue to begin with. The real issue is that the medical profession as a whole was not created for the good of the public. Those in control of the medical profession are only about making money, and at the same time selling products that do damage to people.

How do people like you call yourself Christians when you blatantly ignore that people are dying to covid jabs and instead you claim those jabs are beneficial? Prophet Isaiah said woe to those who call evil good, that’s what you are doing by labelling a lethal substance as overall beneficial. Are you not afraid of God?

Oh and don’t think I don’t know what is motivating you to take those jabs. It’s all about your self preservation and living your good life here and now. But guess what Jesus said? Those who seek to save their lives will lose it (Luke 17:33), so if you continue down this path of self preservation instead of having true faith in God and Jesus, you will lose your eternal life just like Jesus said.

 

[Godbehonored]

It is simply amazing how many people out there who call themselves Christians have no faith at all in God. They show they have no faith because they think band aid solutions like modern medicine and vaccines will free them from all illnesses and pandemics. But what did the Bible say about the TRUE ORIGINS of diseases?

The Scriptures (Old Testament) said that diseases/illnesses come upon God’s people because of sin, drugging yourself up with band aid solutions and vaccines will never eliminate sin from your life. If people truly repent and live a godly life God is more than able to PROTECT His people from any and ALL forms of diseases/pandemics.

It is NOT a fact that modern medicine has eliminated diseases and suffering. They never eliminate anything, they just cure symptoms and put band aids. Besides, God’s faithful generations lived without vaccines and modern medicine for at least 2000 years, so what makes medicine and vaccines mandatory now? It’s idolatry and people like Christina2000 are in midst of committing it.

Instead of repenting of sin and thus receive God’s protection from ALL diseases, people run to pharmacies and man made concoctions for protection. What a slap in the face of God and His Son!

 

[MedicBravo]

My comment is not a label on the entire group of people in science and medical profession. I am addressing her blind faith in men because her trust implies that medical professionals are always reliable. History shows that they aren’t.

When under pressure and direction from authorities, medical professionals are capable of inventing and dosing out harmful substances to the masses. That is how biological warfare came about in WW2. Under the threat of losing reputation and social status, the same group of professionals are capable of hiding the truth and promoting lies even if that harms the public good.

She does not seem to know or acknowledge that. So I remind her with Jeremiah 17 that those who put their faith in men are cursed.

Until we see an entire group of people believing and acting in one way then generalization or in this case where most people in Medicine complied b/c they care more about their jobs than people then any accusation on Medicine fits.
We are in WW3 "officially" or not.
Biological weapons. Misinformation from our "government", the CDC, and WHO. Certain "people" and on here who blindly believe them and after the evil, Nazi themed "speech" Biden gave last night the Line is even more clear.
I agree. God gave us an immune system from the start. He created the germs that live inside us as a part of us and after the Fall some of the germs in Creation became tainted.
Granted some vaccines work and over time have done great things in world Medical health. I haven't had the flu shot for the past 2 years nor am vaccinated for COVID. I've only been sick twice in as many years. I can assure you and anyone who reads this that before I took better charge of my own health I got sick more often.

 

[Godbehonored]

Until we see an entire group of people believing and acting in one way then generalization or in this case where most people in Medicine complied b/c they care more about their jobs than people then any accusation on Medicine fits.
We are in WW3 "officially" or not.
Biological weapons. Misinformation from our "government", the CDC, and WHO. Certain "people" and on here who blindly believe them and after the evil, Nazi themed "speech" Biden gave last night the Line is even more clear.
I agree. God gave us an immune system from the start. He created the germs that live inside us as a part of us and after the Fall some of the germs in Creation became tainted.
Granted some vaccines work and over time have done great things in world Medical health. I haven't had the flu shot for the past 2 years nor am vaccinated for COVID. I've only been sick twice in as many years. I can assure you and anyone who reads this that before I took better charge of my own health I got sick more often.

I don’t care if past vaccines worked or not, but since I’ve came across law suits and research articles of the damaging side effects of all vaccines on children, I’ve stopped trusting any and all modern medicine.

It’s common sense that most of those working in the medical profession will care more about their jobs than people. Human beings are selfish and easily twisted/brainwashed to do evil in the name of good or just for self preservation. Anyone who still believes that a profession exists to serve the public good is deluded at best.

The eyecare profession don’t cure your myopia. It puts only band aid solutions by prescribing glasses and contact lenses.
The cybersecurity profession don’t eliminate computer viruses. They create the viruses then sell software to fight them.
Same thing with medical profession.

These professions thrive on people getting sick, having eye problems and computer problems. They earn their money from that. What makes anyone think they will want the population to be truly healthy, free from eye diseases or computer problems?

 

[Godbehonored]

Misinformation from our "government", the CDC, and WHO. Certain "people" and on here who blindly believe them and after the evil, Nazi themed "speech" Biden gave last night the Line is even more clear.

This was never about blind belief, it’s always been about self preservation and living the good life on a Satan controlled world. People like Christina2000 will believe in lies and support lethal pseudo vaccines because they don’t have any saving faith in God, they only want their good lives in this world to continue. They don’t want to lose anything in this life. So they will even defend evil if that is what it takes to preserve their good ole lives.

I applaud the few medical professionals who are speaking out against the evil, but trust me that most medical professionals will shut up about the truth and even tell lies if that is what ensures their good lives on earth continues.

It’s always about self preservation. Most humans could care less about whether they are hearing or telling the truth if the truth does not serve to make their worldly lives better. This applies even to most professing Christians, which is why the path to life is narrow and FEW find it. Most are on their broad path to destruction and still believe they are saved.

Without saving faith in God, it’s as easy as abc for any profession to turn against humanity and do great evil, even if the profession is supposed to help the sick and needy. That is why there are verses like these in the Scriptures:

Jeremiah 17:5 This is what the LORD says: “Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind, who makes the flesh his strength and turns his heart from the LORD.”

2 Thessalonians 2 Those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Matthew 16:25 For whoever might desire to save his life will lose it; but whoever might lose his life on account of Me will find it.

Jesus and the prophets foresaw over 2000 years ago that humanity will one day have to choose between trusting in men and trusting in God, between self preservation and faith in God.

We are at the crossroads, will we trust in men or God? Will we seek to save our lives in this world even when we have to defend evil and believe in lies or will we choose to lose everything for Christ Jesus? The prophecies above speak to OUR generation.

 

[MedicBravo]

Her actions show her blind belief.
She's not the only one on here but I've encountered many who even after being given the facts, evidence, and so on will eventually resort to baseless statements and insults. People HATE when their false reality is questioned and here when it is shattered by the Truth.
You can go to almost any graveyard and you'll see the low life expectancy and many child graves before vaccines were invented and finally used. At one point they were a good things.
I can assure you there are a lot more than "a few" of us. America's Frontline Doctors for example.
You're right many will prefer to go with the masses no matter what evil they're doing b/c it's easier and more comfortable.
IMO, the Line was drawn long ago and there is no more Grey area. People are crossing that Line onto God's but we know most will stay put.
Last, I think the idea of how bad this world really is scares people so much the idea of changing sides is too hard and scary. They value their earthly things above all else.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Dear Brother, @MedicBravo
One must be compassionate as well in communicating that truth to others. Even in the face of fierce resistance one must shower them with God's Love, that they may know that no matter the decision made, it was not for the lack of that love that we move onward for the better or the worse.

The Gospel also works that way when we share it. Sometimes we receive great joy from doing so, while at other times great sadness. Yet regardless we continue to share it with the compassion and truth.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
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[Godbehonored]

Her actions show her blind belief.
She's not the only one on here but I've encountered many who even after being given the facts, evidence, and so on will eventually resort to baseless statements and insults. People HATE when their false reality is questioned and here when it is shattered by the Truth.

I meant that the root cause of their blind belief is their need for self preservation and living the good life here and now.

You can go to almost any graveyard and you'll see the low life expectancy and many child graves before vaccines were invented and finally used. At one point they were a good things.

Like I said, illnesses and diseases are a result of sin’s curse, humanity’s sin increased over the generations so it’s no doubt that life expectancy will drop because of the curse. Vaccines are at best band aid solutions.

Furthermore, since laws have been implemented to protect vaccine companies from liability of causing harm to vaccine recipients it’s evident where the wheels have turned in regards to the use of vaccines. It’s all about making money now and vaccine companies no longer have to fear legal liabilities and large payouts for lethal side effects of their products. It’s all hell broke loose.

I can assure you there are a lot more than "a few" of us. America's Frontline Doctors for example.
You're right many will prefer to go with the masses no matter what evil they're doing b/c it's easier and more comfortable.
IMO, the Line was drawn long ago and there is no more Grey area. People are crossing that Line onto God's but we know most will stay put.
Last, I think the idea of how bad this world really is scares people so much the idea of changing sides is too hard and scary. They value their earthly things above all else.

People who are all about living the good life here and now will never choose the truth or die for Christ, their fear only makes them cowards and being a coward disqualifies one from heaven.

Revelation 21:8 But cowards, unbelievers, the corrupt, murderers, the immoral, those who practice witchcraft, idol worshipers, and all liars—their fate is in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

I believe the fiery furnace of testing of entire humanity started with this covid and will intensify in the years to come, it’s unfortunate most have already failed the test right at the start.

 

[MedicBravo]

@Godbehonored
I understood all of it but the reality is God gave us tools to combat those illnesses. All of Creation was tainted and more Christians need to change their POV on it.
Those "laws" are unjust among other things. They try to force them on us and then any adverse reaction they are protected from being sued or what have you? I don't think so.
The less trash, unnatural "stuff" we put in our bodies the better off we'll be.
"They" have chosen money and power over people's lives and the odds of any of them changing are almost nil.
Everything I own is in my room, my car, and some tools and a few things in the shed. I could get rid of more stuff and still be good.
When words come to life, via a good book to movie adaptation like "The Passion" it has a far greater effect. It's one of the best movies of all time and yet I hear many still mock it and God.
COVID is over and has been since last year but They have been stringing it along b/c "some people" still blindly belief those aforementioned groups.
One good thing God did for me is having compassion for random people I'll never meet who continue to stay on the wrong side.

 

[Godbehonored]

One good thing God did for me is having compassion for random people I'll never meet who continue to stay on the wrong side.

I wish I had compassion on those who are supporting all this evil but I don’t. I mean where is their compassion on those who have DIED from this thing they call beneficial? And worse yet they call themselves Christians.

This isn’t even some delusion they are in. The death rates and figures from what they call beneficial are staring right in their faces, yet they call evil good. I don’t remember Jesus having compassion on the pharisees, they are publicly called white washed tombs for tainting the name of God with their hypocrisy.

I feel only disgust now.

 

[MedicBravo]

@Godbehonored
It's very hard to have compassion for such evil people yet Jesus did it. No one can ever be on his level but if we don't try what does that say about us?
I can assure you the odds of them and Pelosi, Soros, Gates, Biden, Harris, Fauci, and a long list of others being "saved" and repenting is virtually nil.
I can assure you when He comes back I would be shocked to the point of being brain-rocked if even one of them did change and accept God.
If a person calls themselves Christian yet supports in ANY way what God has called sin they are not Christian. They were never saved in the first place if they made their own call on what is and isn't sin.

 

[Godbehonored]

@Godbehonored
It's very hard to have compassion for such evil people yet Jesus did it. No one can ever be on his level but if we don't try what does that say about us?

Compassion is reserved for those who are truly unaware of the evil they are in. This is seen even in Jesus. The Pharisees knew they were hypocrites and how evil they were but they continued in that evil, Jesus had only disgust for them. The same applies for those who are now supporting the lethal doses in the face of actual deaths. They are in fact aware of the evil but they wilfully ignore what they can plainly see, continue to accept and support the evil for their own self preservation (fear of loss of jobs, status, material things). There is no compassion for that available even from God.

Don’t be fooled by outward politeness and piety. When I study the words used by Jesus and the Pharisees against one another, I find the Pharisees being the more polite party and Jesus being the opposite. If I was a non Christian I would probably support the more pious looking and civil sounding Pharisees. That is why the masses of Jews saw Jesus as a madman and supported the Pharisees in crucifying him. But reality of who is on the side of evil is exactly the opposite.

It’s unfortunately the same today. Some of the most polite and pious sounding religious people are actually the worst, modern day brood of vipers according to John the Baptist, because their actions of supporting a lethal substance (and any evil) for the sake of self preservation is evidence of that evil within. The only delusion they are in is believing they are saved and born again.

 

[Godbehonored]

There is also a good reason why I bring up self preservation again and again. Self preservation is the antithesis of faith and it’s seen in history. But in this society self preservation is so ingrained even many religious people accept it as natural.

If you look at the case of the Pharisees, what really drove them to crucify Jesus? It was a sense of threat against their high status caused by Jesus’ power. Jesus could do miracles, the Pharisees couldn’t. Jesus had a growing group of followers, which meant declining followers for the Pharisees.

It was in fact self preservation that drove the Pharisees to murder Jesus. They want to maintain their high status and large following and eliminate their rivals.

It’s this same self preservation that is driving people like Christina2000 to support lethal substances so they can continue their lives. Self preservation drives people to do great evil and is an enemy of faith.

Jesus preached against self preservation with constant messages of denying self, dying for him etc. Most religious Christians don’t even come close to understanding the evils of self preservation.

 

[MedicBravo]

Compassion is reserved for those who are truly unaware of the evil they are in. This is seen even in Jesus. The Pharisees knew they were hypocrites and how evil they were but they continued in that evil, Jesus had only disgust for them. The same applies for those who are now supporting the lethal doses in the face of actual deaths. They are in fact aware of the evil but they wilfully ignore what they can plainly see, continue to accept and support the evil for their own self preservation (fear of loss of jobs, status, material things). There is no compassion for that available even from God.

Don’t be fooled by outward politeness and piety. When I study the words used by Jesus and the Pharisees against one another, I find the Pharisees being the more polite party and Jesus being the opposite. If I was a non Christian I would probably support the more pious looking and civil sounding Pharisees. That is why the masses of Jews saw Jesus as a madman and supported the Pharisees in crucifying him. But reality of who is on the side of evil is exactly the opposite.

It’s unfortunately the same today. Some of the most polite and pious sounding religious people are actually the worst, modern day brood of vipers according to John the Baptist, because their actions of supporting a lethal substance (and any evil) for the sake of self preservation is evidence of that evil within. The only delusion they are in is believing they are saved and born again.

• Oh, they are aware of the Evil. I easily list many who on the outside "appear" to be "good" but are not
• Those I commonly list are those who are NOT worthy of it b/c they are willing Satanists.
• I'm not fooled. I don't give out blind respect to anyone. Personal merit means more than anything. Respect is earned between two persons over a long time.
• The line was drawn years ago. There is no grey area anymore. There are people who will have their Lightbulb moment and turn to God.
• I read an article where a priest was convicted of something. I don't have the time to find and follow every article or lead to find sufficient evidence to support it given all the misinformation on the internet.
• Pelosi and Biden who "claim" to be Catholic yet fight so hard FOR abortion/unborn baby murder.

 

[Godbehonored]

• Oh, they are aware of the Evil. I easily list many who on the outside "appear" to be "good" but are not
• Those I commonly list are those who are NOT worthy of it b/c they are willing Satanists.
• I'm not fooled. I don't give out blind respect to anyone. Personal merit means more than anything. Respect is earned between two persons over a long time.
• The line was drawn years ago. There is no grey area anymore. There are people who will have their Lightbulb moment and turn to God.
• I read an article where a priest was convicted of something. I don't have the time to find and follow every article or lead to find sufficient evidence to support it given all the misinformation on the internet.
• Pelosi and Biden who "claim" to be Catholic yet fight so hard FOR abortion/unborn baby murder.

Apparently some on here has a beef with me and likes locking my thread because I don't sugarcoat anything. But yeah I'm sick of seeing the hypocrisy by the religious. When I point out the blunt truth of apathy towards other people's lives and therefore dubious faith then the argument shifts and personal experiences of not encountering jab deaths becomes justification of the indiference towards those who actually did die from jabs. Let God be the judge here. Previously some on here were even questioning whether jabs will cause any mass deaths now the same person has gone radio silent.

For that matter to those who are wavering as to whether to take those jabs because certain faithless people think its my fault if I get sick for rejecting any jabs, I have never gotten sick once since SARS, Ebola or covid. In fact, I was never hospitalised even once since I came to faith in Jesus. I travel a lot due to work and God has not failed even once to keep me and my family safe. Even if I should fall ill, I will not seek any man but pray to God for any need to repent. If God wishes to bring me home through illnesses, sudden death or persecution, His will be done because life on here matters not to me, unlike most religious who will lose their eternal lives through self preservation just like Jesus said.

Remember Paul's words that whether to live or die its for Jesus. None of Jesus' true disciples cared about their worldly lives so they willingly become martyrs for God.

 

[MedicBravo]

I don't have beef with anyone but I know some do with me as they do you.
People don't like the truth if it shatters their subjective reality especially concerning "certain topics".
People have died from the flu and it's vaccine yet no outcry, no "pandemic", nothing. There are always more than one factor regarding vaccines and human biology.
There is something called VAIDS b/c of it. Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
Clots are the biggest problem from them. Videos of people suddenly getting this stare and then falling over dead. 5 teens in one week died within 3 days after getting one of them. Over 100 women at one point lost their baby in the first trimester after getting it.
Natural immunity is a thing and didn't go anywhere. When one doesn't get enough Vitamin D the immune system takes a big hit. It's why people tend to get sicker and for longer in the colder months. We stay inside more.
Over the past 2 years They have been lying and trying to influence people to do bath things for their health.
When the vaccinated make up more in hospitals b/c of it than the rest of us that should make any sane person question all involved.
When someone (cough cough) wherever they are, who refute the facts and evidence when the "experts" have found to have been lying and putting out misinformation, they are the definition of foolish and some insane given their actions.

 

[Godbehonored]

When the vaccinated make up more in hospitals b/c of it than the rest of us that should make any sane person question all involved.

When those who now support evil see themselves suffering from the lethal effects of what they accepted into their bodies, its likely they will go crazy themselves. Its predicted that more will die in the next few years but many won't even know that it was the jabs causing that. At one point God will give up on them and strong delusion will overtake those who don't love the truth, its all prophecy.