Now Creflo Dollar has Come to The Knowledge There is no such Thing as Tithing for the New Testament Congregation

[PloughBoy]

But He Ain’t Giving The Money back.

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But He will.

 

[PloughBoy]

Just wait, when he runs up on “Zacchaeus ” and That Rich young Ruler,

Especially when he feels The tremors of The Approaching Horses of The Apocalypse.

New International Version
But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.”

 

[PloughBoy]

It is getting close, and if you are Truly a Child of The Living GOD, you are going straighten up now and fly right! If You truly want to catch The 1st. Boat out!

You better not be jealous you better not be a Hypocrite, a Races, a liar, Adultress, a Fornicator, or any other kind of actor, drunker,

I have no intention to be saved, during “GREAT TRIBULATION”

I have no intention being of That number That no man can Number!

No Sir, I have come to far and gotten to old!

Now you play around if you wan to, If you do, you are going to be One of The Greatest Evangelist That came “Out of Great Tribulation”

You want to be famous, you will be!

 

[MedicBravo]

Anyone with the last name "Dollar" or anything wealth related is one to avoid.

 

[PloughBoy]

Anyone with the last name "Dollar" or anything wealth related is one to avoid.

But one thing I have notice about him lately, acts of “Repentance” slowly turning but turning and The presence of “The Parakletos”

NASB 1977
And again a voice came to him a second time, “What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy.

 

[Brother Paul]

But He Ain’t Giving The Money back.

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But He will.

Bout time

 

[PloughBoy]

Bout time

I wonder will he open up shop in the basement, turn your books and dvds back in for a full refund no receipt needed.

By Faith. And while he is mediating, give That “$70 Million dollar GulfStream Jet” a thought too!

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Tithing is not in the New Testament as we are under a New Covenant.

Yet, tithing is a spiritual principle (like gravity is a physical law ) (We are not under the law but the law doesn't go away)

such as reaping and sowing


(If you have a parachute you can mitigate the laws of gravity but the law of gravity doesn't go away,

because you have a parachute. The law is still there, you are just not bound to it and can rise above it.)

God will honor those who are faithful to His work in giving, however not

under obligation but through their relationship to Jesus. In the New Testament

we are told that God loves a cheerful giver. And we are to give freely.

When we do so many will even exceed the tithe. This is what I find myself doing,

giving my tithe so that church can operate (keep the lights on, fund missions, pay the pastor)

and I give my offering in addition to those who I meet who need help.



Unfortunately people have a very unhealthy relationship with money, and I think it

is sad that pastor's need to educate the Body of Christ as to why in these days

they should give.

Many have no problem spending money on a movie or a entertainment

show, but ask to give to God's work, then people start with all these excuses. Perhaps

in nondenominational churches where things aren't standardized I can sometimes see the

push back because they tend to be the mega churches where there isn't a set pastor salary.


Many are members of a fitness club, or have a netflix subscription and don't mind paying

monthly subscriptions, but when it comes to maintaining the church, people act as if

God is suppose to drop money down from heaven to keep the lights on. They have a mortgage

on their home and they pay it faithfully, but when it comes to supporting the church, they act

as if someone else should do it. (I agree some churches at too much overhead, but in the churches

I've attended, United Methodist, it is actually very little, most goes to missions).

I think it is pretty simple, we are not under the law of tithing, yet the Biblical principles of tithing still apply.
But our emphasis is giving whatever you can cheerfully, while understanding the practical
aspect of giving for the basic upkeep (not to get a blessing).


They say don't mess with a man's women, food, or money. All sensitive topics that
people go crazy over and get very possessive. In the end, it is all God's and we are only stewards.

You can tell a lot about the maturity of a believer when you consider their "relationship" to money.
Are they friends? Is one a master? etc etc.

 

[PloughBoy]

Tithing is not in the New Testament as we are under a New Covenant.

Yet, tithing is a spiritual principle (like gravity is a physical law ) (We are not under the law but the law doesn't go away)

such as reaping and sowing


(If you have a parachute you can mitigate the laws of gravity but the law of gravity doesn't go away, because you have a parachute)

God will honor those who are faithful to His work in giving, however not

under obligation but through their relationship to Jesus. In the New Testament

we are told that God loves a cheerful giver. And we are to give freely.

When we do so many will even exceed the tithe. This is what I find myself doing,

giving my tithe so that church can operate (keep the lights on, fund missions, pay the pastor)

and I give my offering in addition to those who I meet who need help.

Unfortunately people have a very unhealthy relationship with money, and I think it

is said that pastor's need to educate the Body of Christ as to why in these days

they should give.

Many have no problem spending money on a movie or a entertainment

show, but ask to give to God's work, then people start with all these excuses. Perhaps

in nondenominational churches where things aren't standardized I can sometimes see the

push back because they tend to be the mega churches where there isn't a set pastor salary.

Many are members of a fitness club, or have a netflix subscription and don't mind paying

monthly subscriptions, but when it comes to maintaining the church, people act as if

God is suppose to drop money down from heaven to keep the lights on. They have a mortgage

on their home and they pay it faithfully, but when it comes to supporting the church, they ask

as if someone else should do it.

I think it is pretty simple, we are not under the law of tithing, yet the Biblical principles of tithing still apply.
But our emphasis is giving whatever you can cheerfully, while understanding the practical
aspect of giving for the basic upkeep (not to get a blessing).


They say don't mess with a man's women, food, or money. All sensitive topics that
people go crazy over and get very possessive. It is all God's we are only stewards.

Your quote:
“Yet, tithing is a spiritual principle (like gravity is a physical law ) (We are not under the law but the law doesn't go away)”
————————

The devil is a Spiritual Principle too!

My wife Sorority, One of The Divine 9 suppose to practice “Christian” Principles too! Standing Right besides Those Greek Gods and Goddesses devils right up there in the “Methodist”, The Pentecostals, The Baptist, “Pulpit” claiming Jesus is The Christ! And pastors , Preachers, Sunday School Teachers, Superintendent, deacons, Trustees, claiming Jesus is The Christ, Deceived like I don’t know what!
“Christian Principle’s”

When they finally come to the light, then they sorrow,

Now here they go again: Follow me again I was wrong but now I got it all right so follow me again I can be Trusted!

It ain’t nothing but a lie, The Bible have never taught that a “Born From Above” should tithe, and it should be used as a Example to give.

A Gentile have never been under The Law, given at “Sinai” to tithe neither was a “Jew” who did not own herds or Land, Crops.

I know how to read.

Big lie, when Jesus get back, He is going to have more than a “Whip” in his hand He is going have a ROD!

You better get your act together!


Since I have told you the “TRUTH” now, I think you might take some advice from “The Bereans”.

Those who didn’t know received few stripes those who knew received many

Now you can interpret that anyway you want to

But I wouldn’t take a chance.

If The FATHER put The Whip on His SON

And Bought Him back From The Dead after He Been There 3 days and night. And Then carried him off to heaven.

Would you like experiencing “Hades” about 3 Nights. In a trance down Here on earth. In a Psych ward”.with some of that stuff pumped up in your arms.

I got a friend, Brilliant, PhD in Psychiatry grew up in The Methodist church, was head of The Department in New York, Florida wanted him, 1/2 Million, house on the beach. single, concert Pianists.
Yea right, he talked to me, After those Demons got after him, He had to take his medicine, He walk away from
It all, Tried to get me and wife to go to Florida to take over the house free,

Florida had to pay him! In the contract. He gave it all up!

I was the only one it seems to understand him!

A lot of People Have no idea, how GOD reserves “7,000” who will not bow!

 

[PloughBoy]

New King James Version
Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him.


GOD does Not Need A church my church your church to carry His plan out.

He does not count upon people to save HIS own. He has Fire, Powered By a “Pneumatic” force..

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

A lot of People Have no idea, how GOD reserves “7,000” who will not bow!

Thanks for sharing the story. Amen for those who will not bow down.

Tithing aside, because the word has such a negative connotation in church circles;

what are your thoughts on giving to basic upkeep of the church?

I think it is just like family. In a home everyone should contribute. The father may work, the children
may do chores, the mother may cook. But everyone is contributing because it is their house.

If we are the body of Christ, who do we expect to take care of the upkeep of our body?

One could say, let's go back to the days of Acts where there was no to little overhead and they
didn't have buildings. I could go with that......

....However times have changed and in urban cities where people live in small apartments, it is
more practical to construct a building so that believers can meet together. Plus the coming
together allows for the combine multiplying factor of our spiritual gifts, creating relationship,
connecting in prayer, doing greater mission.

These are the only scenarios I see:

(A) Churches should be like in Acts with no buildings (cost) and don't pay Pastors(although a servant is worth their pay, Bible says),
and meet in smaller groups.


(B) Churches have buildings but they don't educate or encourage the members to take care (giving) of their own congregation.


(C) Churches have buildings and do encourage and educate members about the needs and cost.


(D) Churches act like the churches in Acts, no buildings but pay Pastors based on whatever the people give generously,
no set salary and stability (which is why some Pastors have other jobs to support themselves financially).

(E) Christians don't meet in groups or organize at all in a way that brings cost and act individually.


Which one of these options @PloughBoy or another (other) option, seems like what Christ would
have us do. I'm not asking you what @PloughBoy would do, but what do you think Jesus wants His
church to do at this moment.

Feel free to share as well @Dave M @GodB4Us and @Christ4Ever , @B-A-C , and @Andyindauk . Interested in your thoughts..

 

[GodB4Us]

Thanks for sharing the story. Amen for those who will not bow down.

Tithing aside, because the word has such a negative connotation in church circles;

what are your thoughts on giving to basic upkeep of the church?

I think it is just like family. In a home everyone should contribute. The father may work, the children
may do chores, the mother may cook. But everyone is contributing because it is their house.

If we are the body of Christ, who do we expect to take care of the upkeep of our body?

One could say, let's go back to the days of Acts where there was no to little overhead and they
didn't have buildings. I could go with that......

....However times have changed and in urban cities where people live in small apartments, it is
more practical to construct a building so that believers can meet together. Plus the coming
together allows for the combine multiplying factor of our spiritual gifts, creating relationship,
connecting in prayer, doing greater mission.

These are the only scenarios I see:

(A) Churches should be like in Acts with no buildings (cost) and don't pay Pastors(although a servant is worth their pay, Bible says),
and meet in smaller groups.


(B) Churches have buildings but they don't educate or encourage the members to take care (giving) of their own congregation.


(C) Churches have buildings and do encourage and educate members about the needs and cost.


(D) Churches act like the churches in Acts, no buildings but pay Pastors based on whatever the people give generously,
no set salary and stability (which is why some Pastors have other jobs to support themselves financially).

(E) Christians don't meet in groups or organize at all in a way that brings cost and act individually.


Which one of these options @PloughBoy or another (other) option, seems like what Christ would
have us do. I'm not asking you what @PloughBoy would do, but what do you think Jesus wants His
church to do at this moment.

Feel free to share as well @Dave M @GodB4Us and @Christ4Ever , @B-A-C , and @Andyindauk . Interested in your thoughts..

Withdraw from workers of iniquity in churches and wait on the Lord, trusting Him as our Good Shepherd to help us abide in Him & follow Him daily for He will be coming soon as the Bridegroom to judge His House first at the rapture event..

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Withdraw from workers of iniquity in churches and wait on the Lord, trusting Him as our Good Shepherd to help us abide in Him & follow Him daily for He will be coming soon as the Bridegroom to judge His House first at the rapture event..

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this topic. I gather your answer would be (E).

With that said, how do you get encouragement my dear brother in Christ if I assume you live by this advice and you yourself
are not connected to a regular assembly of believers?

2nd question, are you currently experiencing church hurt? Was your last experience with a church very unpleasant and therefore you haven't gone back?

On a different note, as an African American male, sometimes I experience really bad customer service, and sometimes
I'm like it is probably because I'm Black. And while I may be correct some times, I'm sure there are other times
when I've rushed to judgment, and I find myself not writing people off and still being a blessing to them even if they
are not a blessing to me.

Have you by chance written off the local church because you likewise had a bad experience?

 

[PloughBoy]

Thanks for sharing the story. Amen for those who will not bow down.

Tithing aside, because the word has such a negative connotation in church circles;

what are your thoughts on giving to basic upkeep of the church?

I think it is just like family. In a home everyone should contribute. The father may work, the children
may do chores, the mother may cook. But everyone is contributing because it is their house.

If we are the body of Christ, who do we expect to take care of the upkeep of our body?

One could say, let's go back to the days of Acts where there was no to little overhead and they
didn't have buildings. I could go with that......

....However times have changed and in urban cities where people live in small apartments, it is
more practical to construct a building so that believers can meet together. Plus the coming
together allows for the combine multiplying factor of our spiritual gifts, creating relationship,
connecting in prayer, doing greater mission.

These are the only scenarios I see:

(A) Churches should be like in Acts with no buildings (cost) and don't pay Pastors(although a servant is worth their pay, Bible says),
and meet in smaller groups.


(B) Churches have buildings but they don't educate or encourage the members to take care (giving) of their own congregation.


(C) Churches have buildings and do encourage and educate members about the needs and cost.


(D) Churches act like the churches in Acts, no buildings but pay Pastors based on whatever the people give generously,
no set salary and stability (which is why some Pastors have other jobs to support themselves financially).

(E) Christians don't meet in groups or organize at all in a way that brings cost and act individually.


Which one of these options @PloughBoy or another (other) option, seems like what Christ would
have us do. I'm not asking you what @PloughBoy would do, but what do you think Jesus wants His
church to do at this moment.

Feel free to share as well @Dave M @GodB4Us and @Christ4Ever , @B-A-C , and @Andyindauk . Interested in your thoughts..

To answer this question:
Your quote:

“what are your thoughts on giving to basic upkeep of the church?”

A meeting place for fellowship.

There was a time in certain places. the Assembly gathered; No pews no chairs no benches. If you need to sit down you bought your own stool!

So, in todays world, you need a toilet room, Lights, windows, heat and maybe Air Condiction.

and Jesus got Through reading the Text, He Set Down and Taught!

He didn’t have no social programs, and religious entertainment.

And The Parent, the Father, taught Their Children about GOD, and old women in the hood, taught the young women, how to “LOVE” their children and How To “LOVE” Their Husbands! Love is not Feeling!

A old saying: “Love begins at Home and Spreads Abroad”

Man has made The Institution of Christianity into a Broad field of “ENTERTAINMENT” and not a work of Sanctification, Holiness and GODLINESS. Unto the commands of “GOD” through his Son, The Christ of GOD”

Christianity promotes High Dollar Christian Educational System. that The Weathy Can Afford, who teachers demands high dollar wages. a Completely corrupted systems as is The WholeWorld. In The Name Of God.
“In GOD we Trust”!

Liars we all are.

We survived in mercy and grace. To receive this, we must be corrupted.
Without Corruption there is No need of “Mercy and Grace”!

So are we all “Corrupted”? If not who need “JESUS” every moment every hour every second, why do we need a Intercessor on The Right hand of The FATHER!

Our churches are corrupted as well! Maybe The Best place we got, For There “JESUS” is Preached. “how shall they hear without A Preacher, How Shall he Preach unless he be sent”

For GOD Himself has Said; “Who is as Blind as My Messenger that I send”

What a Mystery of “The GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS THE ANOINTED OF GOD”

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

There was a time in certain places. the Assembly gathered; No pews no chairs no benches. If you need to sit down you bought your own stool!

So, in todays world, you need a toilet room, Lights, windows, heat and maybe Air Condiction.

.......................


Christianity promotes High Dollar Christian Educational System. that The Weathy Can Afford, who teachers demands high dollar wages. a Completely corrupted systems as is The WholeWorld. In The Name Of God.
“In GOD we Trust”!

Very good and noted point about the overhead., I agree, that sometimes there is overhead.

But is the problem really the building or our lack of willingness to give to support God's work?

Let me put it a different way, I submit for your hearing and consideration as you rightfully put it

that we are corrupt, and therefore the issue is really with the heart.


Let's just say for example, for the sake of discussion that we tried it the way you proposed (which isn't a bad way, it is good),

and we didn't have benches or pews or air conditioning in churches, or all these programs. Imagine that.

Now imagine that same "Christian" who is not a member of a church with overhead, and who was paying previously
for that upkeep, now has extra money in their pocket.

Imagine that same member walks by a homeless man on the street who ask for $5 for a meal, what will happen?


I submit that many who are against giving to the church do so less because of the principles of stewardship but more
because of their heart and their attachment to money. I submit to you that most would past by that homeless man
and think, I can use that $5 for a new ice cappuccino

My point being that I agree with you, there is much overhead, and you are correct. Yet
you are also correct, it is the heart. Meaning, if we did away with all these programs and overhead,
with the unchanged heart these people who didn't have to pay to upkeep the church likely also will not
take that money to help those in need (money that the church would take and do it on their behalf).

So it is really about the heart, and if we cut the overhead but don't preach

(your words) the >>>>>>"The GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS THE ANOINTED OF GOD” <<<<<<,
then we will just have a congregation with smaller overhead and still not being a blessing to others
because the Holy Spirit hasn't transformed us.

So I agree we can cut the overhead, but I think some overhead in this modern day is serving a great
purpose. For example, churches have radio stations broadcasting the gospel 24/7. Yes of course you
can say, if everyone talked to their neighbor that Gospel would be spread, but really? If your neighbor wanted
to talk to you at 2am would we open the door, or would we prefer they livestream a sermon that our church
has uploaded that they can access anytime? A radio station which is being paid for by the tithes.

I think Biblical principles of stewardship and charity apply here.
Stewardship (cut overhead, manage God's resources well, be light in operational cost)
Charity (give cheerfully and generously to God's work)

 

[PloughBoy]

Very good and noted point about the overhead., I agree, that sometimes there is overhead.

But is the problem really the building or our lack of willingness to give to support God's work?

Let me put it a different way, I submit for your hearing and consideration as you rightfully put it

that we are corrupt, and therefore the issue is really with the heart.


Let's just say for example, for the sake of discussion that we tried it the way you proposed (which isn't a bad way, it is good),

and we didn't have benches or pews or air conditioning in churches, or all these programs. Imagine that.

Now imagine that same "Christian" who is not a member of a church with overhead, and who was paying previously
for that upkeep, now has extra money in their pocket.

Imagine that same member walks by a homeless man on the street who ask for $5 for a meal, what will happen?


I submit that many who are against giving to the church do so less because of the principles of stewardship but more
because of their heart and their attachment to money. I submit to you that most would past by that homeless man
and think, I can use that $5 for a new ice cappuccino

My point being that I agree with you, there is much overhead, and you are correct. Yet
you are also correct, it is the heart. Meaning, if we did away with all these programs and overhead,
with the unchanged heart these people who didn't have to pay to upkeep the church likely also will not
take that money to help those in need (money that the church would take and do it on their behalf).

So it is really about the heart, and if we cut the overhead but don't preach

(your words) the >>>>>>"The GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS THE ANOINTED OF GOD” <<<<<<,
then we will just have a congregation with smaller overhead and still not being a blessing to others
because the Holy Spirit hasn't transformed us.

So I agree we can cut the overhead, but I think some overhead in this modern day is serving a great
purpose. For example, churches have radio stations broadcasting the gospel 24/7. Yes of course you
can say, if everyone talked to their neighbor that Gospel would be spread, but really? If your neighbor wanted
to talk to you at 2am would we open the door, or would we prefer they livestream a sermon that our church
has uploaded that they can access anytime? A radio station which is being paid for by the tithes.

I think Biblical principles of stewardship and charity apply here.
Stewardship (cut overhead, manage God's resources well, be light in operational cost)
Charity (give cheerfully and generously to God's work)

I understand what you are saying, I think you kinda mis my meaning unless I made a mistake in my presentation:


1. What is “GOD”s Work”? That is define by many different definitions.

2.I did not suggest a way. that was the way they used to have church services in Europe before “The Puritan s [calvinist] even hit The Shores of “The America”!

3. Homeless?

We have taxes, just like The Tithe for Israel, it was nothing but a tax to take care of the poor!

Simple not even complicated. “Israel had treasury to take care of the temple when they had one. Then when they build it was 2 cent temple tax for everybody rich and famous. “the Widows Mite” Temple tax.

These churches “The Roman Catholic” off springs”. Wild as I know what! Just as wild as can be. Headed by little popes. Just like their daddy!
“vicar of Christ”.

Not all, but most!

Problem is concerning our Taxes today “Corrupted Officials” known fact. all of Them got their hands in the Till!

I am not going to explain it, it use to be public knowledge from The Freedom of Information act. Any Body could get the information just write in. You did not have to sue and go to court to get it.
They taught that to us in “Junior high school and High school”
Example:

Pay every body who apply for welfare checks, health care, housing with no investigations, have no administration costs, no supervisions, give checks to everyone who apply that do not have a job or a place to stay housing allowance. Food and clothing allowance.

We would have a Surplus year after year. And building on interest alone.

Most of The systems money is going to “Adminstration costs” and government appropriations.

I remember in my twenties, suggested by “Focus on The Family”. Dr. James Doson, to write and get The expense concerning military spending list.

Did you know we where buying 0.02 washers and o.05 nuts for over $5.00- $8.00 a piece that you buy at your corner hardware store.

I am not to going really get into it, this stuff is
Past tense,

People don’t really care, as long as there is meat on their table. People lie when they don’t know they are lying.

We as the church and Govement and People have so Superseded corruption we are blinder than ever, we had gone Backwards the evilness is Just different. Just like Technology. Killing millions in many forms different from the past but deadlier.

But Prophesy has proclaim that. For The Love of Many will grow cold. We do not even know what that mean.

For we fallen away from The TRUTH!

“His Redemption Draws near” Nearer than we think.

Satan is The Ruler of This world! We do not even believe that!

We do not believe he is The GOD of This World!

We say we believe it But we say:
“BUT”

We Got A “BUT” for everything!

Just watch and listen.

“BUT”! And everybody going Heaven “But” they get silent then.

“BUT” all _________ are going to Hell!

“BUT”


I wonder how many “But”s we will say before the day is over!

People act like GOD cannot Exists without the “church”.

People do not know how long “GoD” has Been around before “There was A Time A space or anything ever existed. He do not need.

 

[PloughBoy]

We cannot change for the good, we are out number.

We pray, That His Kingdom Comes!

And He Will Reign here, For The Benefit of Those who are “The Elect” of GOD. Keeping His Promise.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Did you know we where buying 0.02 washers and o.05 nuts for over $5.00- $8.00 a piece that you buy at your corner hardware store.

I am not to going really get into it, this stuff is
Past tense,

Yup,

I was aware of the scandal. Read about it a long time ago. The corruption in government is bad, BUT ....... you are talking about the government,
BUT ....... we the church are suppose to be different, and we can't rely on outsourcing our work of feeding the poor and proclaiming the good news
to the government. Surely the King will say "I was sick and you visited me, I was hungry and you clothed me, I was in jail and you visited me". One person
did all of this? No beloved, the King is speaking to the individuals in the body of Christ, they did it collectively. When the King tells Sally Sue, I was hungry
and you fed me Sally will look at Him and say, "When Lord, when did I feed you hungry?" And He will say, the little you give to the church was combined
with Johnny Jones little, and MaryBeth's little, and all that little became a lot and they sent that money from your tithes and offering to the homeless
shelters and fed them. You fed me because your little was apart of that bigger gift given.

The church is the body of Christ, we are the called out ones and God wants us to be a body and a congregation.
I believe we have too many lone sheep Christians being picked off by the enemy because they have no support.

Hebrews 10:25 says, “… not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching” (emphasis added).

As the end draws near (Day approaching), the devil will try harder and hard to get believers to forsake assembling with other believers. We saw this after
covid, many got shocked in the faith, some are still shaking. Some moved to virtual services, and other just never came back.

You state "We cannot change for the good, we are out number."
my response would be what Jesus said, Occupy until I come
Luke 19:13 " And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come."

We may not be able to change everything, but we can keep the faith, and occupy, spreading the WORD and loving
in our community and serving until Jesus returns.

Hold the ground soldier, don't loose heart. Stay strong.
You serve a God of hope, you serve a God who of victory.

Remember Jesus will not return to take us to mars, He will return and restore this very earth with a new earth and a
new heaven. He will redeem creation from the corruption. Don't give up one inch to the devil, no not one millimeter.
In fact, pick up your spiritual rifle(the WORD of God) and storm the gates of hell with the assembly of saints behind you.

A Bible scholar said it this way, many Christians are eager to accept the Lordship of Christ,
but forsake the body of Christ which is the church. Beloved we don't serve a decapitated Savior,
(the Head rest upon the body).
Christ is the head and the church is the body. This is the way God has ordained it, if anyone knows,
you know that God's ways are not our ways. Thus if God has ordained it this way we will be wise
to follow it.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

New Living Translation
Christ is also the head of the church, which is his body. He is the beginning, supreme over all who rise from the dead. So He is first in everything.
Colossians 1:18

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Let us not depaciate the work of our Lord and Savior. Christ is the head, the body is the church.
God wants us to submit to each out and being in the body helps us to submit.

Jesus even came down himself and submitted to God the father in the flesh.

Children's are called to submit to parents,
Wives are called to submit to their husbands,
Men are called to submit to the governments of the world,
and believers are called to submit to each other in the body of Christ.

But no one wants to submit.

Children rebel against their parents,
Wives rebel against their husbands,
Men rebel against the laws,
and oh yea, believers want to be lone wolf, I mean lone sheep Christians, not submitting to
the body of Christ.

When believers come together as a body of Christ God really works on you.

Daniel was under the corrupt government of Nebuchadnezzar, but he submitted. He submitted
to the glory of God, until he was asked to bow down and worship a statue.
Hagar was under Sarah who was treating her mean, but the angel told her to go back and submit to Sarah
who was jealous of her.

And Jesus submitted, to the death of the cross, "let this cup pass if it is your will, but not my WILL but your WILL be done".
If submission is clearly in God's plan (hard to deny it), why are Christians so adamant of not submitting to the assembly of the church
and congregation of other believers?

I'll answer it, you already said it. We are corrupt, we don't want anyone asking us for our money, we don't want anyone pointing
out our sins, and we rather use our gifts and talents for ourselves rather than being a collective blessing to the body of Christ.