Now Creflo Dollar has Come to The Knowledge There is no such Thing as Tithing for the New Testament Congregation

[PloughBoy]

Yep, the word body relating to The church means a group not Christ actually real live body. Words are used also by satan, he communicates by words he deceives by words. His enemy is not the Church his Enemy is “sons of GOD” he is to make war with them, that is his purpose.That is why he was created. To make war with “The Saints”. He has so many so deceived, many think he is at war with GOD and Christ. And it is clearing through “THE WORD of GOD”. That is not so.

It really amazes me. How many cannot see that. And it is plainly revealed in broad daylight for The TRUTH Child of GOD. To see and embrace.

But I know it is by Associations. But it stills boggles me.

And I know The TRUTH. And I know why.

The Word states it plainly.

But The Human Part The Mortal is still here with me!

Warring against me!

1. the Devil
2. My Flesh
3. the World

And They are Allies!
“coordinating”!
And I cannot break loose! For”GOD” would not have it to be so at This Time!

But if I could, But Trapped! For my good.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Yep, the word body relating to The church means a group not Christ actually real live body.

Indeed, I'm also not talking about a real body, I know head and body are figurative language (analogy/metaphors).

The imagery with body and head is organization and unity.

Analogy, head is to the body as Christ is to the church.

The head controls the body and the body does the work.

Jesus controls the church (we get marching orders from Christ through the Holy Spirit) and we (the church) do the work.

We are the body Christ is the head. It is a metaphor to illustrate organizational hierarchy and unity.



We collectively (the body) do the work, not separate bodies (one body of Christ).
You @PloughBoy don't have millions of bodies, you only have 1 body, but you do have millions
of little cells organized together in units of tissue, and tissue organized to form organs,
and organs organized to form organ systems, and organ systems all receiving the message from
your nervous system concerning what to do. Not millions of bodies, 1 body, millions of individual
cells working in a hierarachy and unity to form one body. This is how the real church (invisible spiritual) is.

This mean if Christ wanted to pay your car bill, he might tell Sally Sue to bless you, He might
also tell Johnny Jones to help you. But they don't know each other, they are all sending you money,
being directed by one head. Now if Sally Sue says, I want to send my money to Africa and ignores
the command from the head (Christ), she is out of order, and out of step with the work God is doing.

Which unfortunately is a problem in the Body of Christ, everyone wants to do their own thing, instead
of submitting to the direction from Christ. Christ has one master plan and He does not send His body out
to work against itself. If He tells the left foot to go left, He won't tell the right foot to go right and trip over His feet,

He will send them a unified message, even if one part is in Africa and another Australia. This is
why it is important for the body to work together.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

 

[PloughBoy]

Indeed, I'm also not talking about a real body, I know head and body are figurative language (analogy/metaphors).

The imagery with body and head is organization and unity.

Analogy, head is to the body as Christ is to the church.

The head controls the body and the body does the work.

Jesus controls the church (we get marching orders from Christ through the Holy Spirit) and we (the church) do the work.

We are the body Christ is the head. It is a metaphor to illustrate organizational hierarchy and unity.



We collectively (the body) do the work, not separate bodies (one body of Christ).
You @PloughBoy don't have millions of bodies, you only have 1 body, but you do have millions
of little cells organized together in units of tissue, and tissue organized to form organs,
and organs organized to form organ systems, and organ systems all receiving the message from
your nervous system concerning what to do. Not millions of bodies, 1 body, millions of individual
cells working in a hierarachy and unity to form one body. This is how the real church (invisible spiritual) is.

This mean if Christ wanted to pay your car bill, he might tell Sally Sue to bless you, He might
also tell Johnny Jones to help you. But they don't know each other, they are all sending you money,
being directed by one head. Now if Sally Sue says, I want to send my money to Africa and ignores
the command from the head (Christ), she is out of order, and out of step with the work God is doing.

Which unfortunately is a problem in the Body of Christ, everyone wants to do their own thing, instead
of submitting to the direction from Christ. Christ has one master plan and He does not send His body out
to work against itself. If He tells the left foot to go left, He won't tell the right foot to go right and trip over His feet,

He will send them a unified message, even if one part is in Africa and another Australia. This is
why it is important for the body to work together.

Yep, he did know the outcome of everything from the “Beginning to The End” every thought every action that would ever happen. Every rain drop, snow flake that will fall and every spot it would fall in. Even The Flash of The Lightning and it’s pattern in how it would flash.

Ever tear drop that falls from a creature face. Every drop of Blood that pumps through veins. He knows it’s sound.
The hair on your head has a number and He knows what number it is without counting.

So yes, he already knows we will not obey, He already knows, who He will crown in His “Eternal” Kingdom,

He already knows, whom He will Call son, before they where born.

A Love This “GOD”

And He knows my name.

I Truly hope , you heard what I said

Do you have the ears to hear, my brother what I just said, for you must be “BORN of GOD” to hear those words to what I just said.

“Can you hear The Hammer Ringing” Calvary Lord, Calvary

 

[Dave M]

These are the only scenarios I see:

(A) Churches should be like in Acts with no buildings (cost) and don't pay Pastors(although a servant is worth their pay, Bible says),
and meet in smaller groups.

-------------- well anyone who answers yes to this question, we have to further examine what the scriptures say,,,, to be sure we are being like the church in acts, what did they do??? Oh yeah,,, that's right they SOLD everything they had so that not one of them had a need. They were taking care of each other poor and rich. I just love that about the church in ACTS, unfortunately, we do not often see this extreme giving and sacrificing in today's church.

(B) Churches have buildings but they don't educate or encourage the members to take care (giving) of their own congregation.

........................................Churches should have a meeting place I agree with that and support it is a building or house. Now the second part is a shame and all too common in the church today, pastors are afraid to ask for money (well not all LOL) but what a blessing it is that God has put certain people in financial situations to be able to give, giving is far more blessed then receiving is what is Jesus syis so if Jesus encouraged it, I also encourage it. It should be a Joy to give and pastors should encourage it, of course, that is with the right heart. I know some are thinking about all the pastors like the prosperity gospel who increase their lifestyle because of the giving, well we as members of the body of Christ need to have discernment on our giving, and that comes from reading the word.

(C) Churches have buildings and do encourage and educate members about the needs and cost.

..........................................YES YES, churches should be run by the body of Christ and be transparent in all things. Yes also to house churches, different circumstances call for different ways, but both are made up of the church the people of God,

(D) Churches act like the churches in Acts, no buildings but pay Pastors based on whatever the people give generously,
no set salary and stability (which is why some Pastors have other jobs to support themselves financially).

.................................... Well, this is a little tougher, as a Pastor, he has the right to earn a wage from the word, but Paul was so conscious of people thinking he was in for the money he would not take any for the sake of the gospel to spread. But the bible is clear pastors have the right to earn a living from the Gospel, but their hearts better be in the right place, for they will face a tougher judgment

(E) Christians don't meet in groups or organize at all in a way that brings cost and act individually.

.............................This s not found anywhere in the bible, groups, and people coming together is very Christian. Going it alone is NOT the Christian thing. We should be coming together to worship pray study the word helping others.

 

[Dave M]

The church of God is who Jesus died for. we are all one flock, Gentile and Jew, if you believe in Jesus we are in one flock, there is but only one flock that salvation comes to, the Church of God through the shedding of Jesus blood.

Acts 20:28​

Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.