Question about beer (seriously)

[morethandiamonds]

OK, I know most of you will think this is ridiculous, but I have a question about non-alcoholic beer. As most of you know, I am on dialysis. I learned the other day that people on dialysis can crave strange things. My dietician even told me some people eat wood or even toilet paper(CLEAN, of course)! But anyway, my cravings aren't that strange, but I do have a question about it. One craving is ice. The other is beer. I haven't drank anything with alcohol in a really long time. But there are days I just want a beer like there is no tomorrow. Well, I bought a six pack of bottled O'Doul's Amber. If any of you don't know, O'Doul's is non-alcoholic. Well, technically that's not true, it has 0.5 percent alcohol. OK, Here is my question, even though it only has 0.5 percent alcohol, am I committing a sin?

 

[stephen]

OK, Here is my question, even though it only has 0.5 percent alcohol, am I committing a sin?

If salvation were to do with what we eat or what we drink, all would be saved. Salvation is all about Jesus. Having accepted Jesus, and knowing Him as Lord of your life, that is the important thing. Salvation is of the Lord! so says the scripture.

Keep loving Jesus, praying, rejoicing in God, appreciating His love. These are the paramount things.

God Bless You

 

[Chad]

Matthew 21:22
If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."

Sister, ask GOD to convict your heart whether this is right or wrong. The Holy Spirit will tell you if this is good for you or not. Lean on His understanding and not your own.

God bless

 

[sebi]

There are a lot of people in the Bible that drank alcohol (Timothy is advised by Paul to do so, Jesus and the others probably drank wine at the weeding in Cana, even the Holly Supper...) So i don't think it's a sin - i too, although rarely, drink wine or beer. But if your conscience is saying NO, then you should listen to it. If you don't feel right about drinking, then don't do it. If, on the other way, you feel OK about drinking alcohol, do it, but be careful not to be a stumbling block for others...

 

[Dreamer]

diamonds, you're a sweet lady

morethandiamonds, if I were your friend or sister and lived in your home with you, I would go out to the store RIGHT NOW and buy you some O'Douls. You deserve it. It's not hurting anyone, and you've been through so much. Whatever would bring you a little pleasure, I think, would be good right now.
Peter believed he was better than the Gentiles because of what they ate. God showed him that he made all things to eat. How can a non-alcoholic beverage hurt you?
The only thing you might want to be concerned about is if there is someone in your life to which the beverage would be a stumbling block. Pray about it. I'm telling you, though, I'm about ready to go out and get you some and ship it to you right now!

 

[Daniel Barendregt]

John 2:1-11

1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:

2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.

3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.

4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do [it].

6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece.

7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.

8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare [it].

9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,

10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: [but] thou hast kept the good wine until now.

11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

As you can see here, Jesus turned water into wine so that those at the feast could drink it. I do not think Jesus would have done something like that if it was a sin to drink alcohol. Because Jesus is perfect He would not have created a stumbling block or caused a man to sin.
There are verses In the Bible also complimenting wine:


Psalm 104:15 - And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.

1 Timothy 5:23 - Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.



However there are many verses In the bible that warn against the sin of drunkeness:
(Read some below)

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Isaiah 5:11 - Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, [that] they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, [till] wine inflame them!

Galatians 5:21 - Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Romans 13:13 - Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.


The Bible also tells us not to drink wine when it could be a stumbling block for others:

Romans 14:21 - [It is] good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor [any thing] whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.



With these verses from scripture, we can come to this conclusion:
A glass of wine (alcohol) is good for the heart and makes glad the heart of man.
But drunkenness is a great sin. (So DO NOT over drink)
And while in the presence of those who stumble in the case of drunkenness do not drink in front of them for it may cause them to stumble. Have a drink in a better place at a better time.

God bless you all, and thank the LORD for amazing wine!

 

[amadeus2]

When my wife was pregnant with out first child (1973) she had an old Dutch doctor who advised her that one beer (not O'Douls) a day would be good for her milk. That little fellow never had any trouble with her milk and she also suffered no adverse affects. Our God is good and He created everything very good [Gen 1:31]

 

[Ophel]

When my wife was pregnant with out first child (1973) she had an old Dutch doctor who advised her that one beer (not O'Douls) a day would be good for her milk. That little fellow never had any trouble with her milk and she also suffered no adverse affects. Our God is good and He created everything very good [Gen 1:31]

My Scottish grandmother was advised by her doctor when pregnant to have a glass of stout daily. It has a quantity of iron, B vitamins and folate that a mother needs. I imagine today's mothers wouldn't be recommended such a thing as we have a readily available supply of maternity vitamins and supplements that are geared precisely to what a mother and baby needs for optimal growth and health---all without the alcohol.

 

[amadeus2]

My Scottish grandmother was advised by her doctor when pregnant to have a glass of stout daily. It has a quantity of iron, B vitamins and folate that a mother needs. I imagine today's mothers wouldn't be recommended such a thing as we have a readily available supply of maternity vitamins and supplements that are geared precisely to what a mother and baby needs for optimal growth and health---all without the alcohol.

Well a little alcohol is hardly bad for most people. A single can of Coca Cola is worse health wise for our body than a single can of beer. When a person goes beyond a single can the proportional comparison may change. The correct quantity of anything a person takes into his body is important. What is correct for one person of one thing may not work out well for another.

 

[Ophel]

Well a little alcohol is hardly bad for most people. A single can of Coca Cola is worse health wise for our body than a single can of beer. When a person goes beyond a single can the proportional comparison may change. The correct quantity of anything a person takes into his body is important. What is correct for one person of one thing may not work out well for another.

The point is you don't want to be ingesting alcohol when you're pregnant.

 

[amadeus2]

The point is you don't want to be ingesting alcohol when you're pregnant.

Never having been pregnant, I cannot speak from personal experience.

Generally speaking [no special situations or circumstances] one beer is better than one Coke. I have to accept my wife's testimony with regard to her own experience with the beer a day. She says the single beer a day did her no apparent harm. At the time neither one of us were serving God.

 

[Waggles]

Here is my question, even though it only has 0.5 percent alcohol, am I committing a sin?

1. When you received the Holy Spirit and were set free from your fleshly sins and bad habits - like gambling, smoking, drugs, alcohol, or whatever else...
why would you want to return to the indulgences of the flesh?
Romans chapter 14 speaks to this conflict - read and mediate and pray


Rom 14:23 And he that doubts is damned if he eat, because he eats not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
Rom 14:22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemns not himself in that thing which he allows.

The scriptures can be also very harsh, but it is for our benefit. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom...

 

[Coconut]

diamonds, you're a sweet lady

morethandiamonds, if I were your friend or sister and lived in your home with you, I would go out to the store RIGHT NOW and buy you some O'Douls....:

I raise my glass to you both :glasses:

As the old story goes, Jesus turned the water into wine...
and religious men have been trying to turn it back into water ever since. (seriously!)

 

[amadeus2]

In the beginning, God created everything "very good". The juice of grapes, with no coaxing, ferments with age and becomes a very potent alcoholic beverage. If it is never drunk to excess, drinking it would not be wrong, I believe,unless you are convicted against it in your heart.

Also consider this...

I was a heavy beer drinker for years. When I received the Holy Ghost, I minimized my drinking and I stopped going to bars. As it happens I haven't even tasted a beer in a few years, but that is not due to any conviction against it for me personally. One thing that each of us as a believer must consider, is how does our drinking of alcoholic beverages appear to or affect others?

"Abstain from all appearance of evil." I Thess 5:22

"Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way." Rom 14:13

 

[milordsheep]

I bought a six pack of bottled O'Doul's Amber. If any of you don't know, O'Doul's is non-alcoholic. Well, technically that's not true, it has 0.5 percent alcohol. OK, Here is my question, even though it only has 0.5 percent alcohol, am I committing a sin?

Drinking is not a sin, but the abuse of a substance and over indulgence in one is playing with fire. Whether it a sin is between Yourself and the Lord. But as a former low bottom drunk I can attest that even the small amount in O'douls and the like can set an alkie off; simply because we are not wired like other people. Where alcohol in a "normie" will simply run it's course, in us it takes an added step; an allergic reaction if you will, that causes us to crave another and another and another. combined with the obsessive denial that we do not have a problem with it. Many of us true alkies go to the brink of death trying to prove to ourselves and others we do not have a problem. I for one have ridden this particular horse down to the gutter; and it is only through God's Mercy and Grace I am alive to speak about it.
The way I look at it is that God did not deliver me from such a detestable state just to have me return to it; and when that desire for the 'great taste of beer' hits; I pause, and remember What it cost me in life; and what it cost my Savior.
The occasional belt seems to lose its appeal in retrospect of that

 

[Bendito]

OK, I know most of you will think this is ridiculous, but I have a question about non-alcoholic beer. As most of you know, I am on dialysis. I learned the other day that people on dialysis can crave strange things. My dietician even told me some people eat wood or even toilet paper(CLEAN, of course)! But anyway, my cravings aren't that strange, but I do have a question about it. One craving is ice. The other is beer. I haven't drank anything with alcohol in a really long time. But there are days I just want a beer like there is no tomorrow. Well, I bought a six pack of bottled O'Doul's Amber. If any of you don't know, O'Doul's is non-alcoholic. Well, technically that's not true, it has 0.5 percent alcohol. OK, Here is my question, even though it only has 0.5 percent alcohol, am I committing a sin?

I like no alcohol beer too. LOL There is no place in the Bible that says we cannot drink alcoholic beverages.... It says ..."in moderation'......So don't ask us, see what the Word says and act accordingly

 

[Shutterbug]

At 1/2 percent, you will be flushing it down the toilet before you began to feel much effect. As for turning the wine back into water (good observation), I've had conversations with Christians who insisted that where the King James used the word "wine" WRT Jesus, it really meant "grape juice". Seriously, what else did the King James substitute to protect the holy?

 

[Bendito]

At 1/2 percent, you will be flushing it down the toilet before you began to feel much effect. As for turning the wine back into water (good observation), I've had conversations with Christians who insisted that where the King James used the word "wine" WRT Jesus, it really meant "grape juice". Seriously, what else did the King James substitute to protect the holy?

I'm hesitant to post this because of the chance of tripping up younger Christians.....

I think the translators of the KJV were Christians similar to Christians today... Or should I say similar to the Pharisees of yesteryear? Actually, if God says 'Go ahead and buy all your favorite foods including wine, and strong liquor and gather in my PRESENCE and we'll have a feast' then I find it difficult to believe that God finds drinking a beer to be wrong....
Deuteronomy 14:20-29 (CJB)
20 but all clean flying creatures you may eat.

21 “You are not to eat any animal that dies naturally; although you may let a stranger staying with you eat it, or sell it to a foreigner; because you are a holy people for Adonai your God.

“You are not to boil a young animal in its mother’s milk.

(v) 22 “Every year you must take one tenth of everything your seed produces in the field, 23 and eat it in the presence of Adonai your God. In the place where he chooses to have his name live you will eat the tenth of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your cattle and sheep, so that you will learn to fear Adonai your God always. 24 But if the distance is too great for you, so that you are unable to transport it, because the place where Adonai chooses to put his name is too far away from you; then, when Adonai your God prospers you, 25 you are to convert it into money, take the money with you, go to the place which Adonai your God will choose, 26 and exchange the money for anything you want — cattle, sheep, wine, other intoxicating liquor, or anything you please — and you are to eat there in the presence of Adonai your God, and enjoy yourselves, you and your household.

27 “But don’t neglect the Levi staying with you, because he has no share or inheritance like yours. 28 At the end of every three years you are to take all the tenths of your produce from that year and store it in your towns. 29 Then the Levi, because he has no share or inheritance like yours, along with the foreigner, the orphan and the widow living in your towns, will come, eat and be satisfied — so that Adonai your God will bless you in everything your hands produce.
Keep in mind that God says not to get drunk because of excess...He teaches moderation in all things

 

[LordKnows]

If we get a "buzz" we're sinning. If we get a lil "tipsy" we're sinning.

God never told Adam & Eve they couldn't "touch" the fruit, play baseball with the fruit, lick the fruit, juggle the fruit or even gather the fruit... he said don't "eat" it. Satan is the sly guy that told Eve that God said she couldn't "touch" it. Since he added the extra we as humans tease & tempt ourselves & next thing ya know... were staggering drunk. Best bet, don't tempt yourself by having it around. It's a set up that doesn't work in our favor.

 

[Shutterbug]

I'm hesitant to post this because of the chance of tripping up younger Christians.....

I think the translators of the KJV were Christians similar to Christians today... Or should I say similar to the Pharisees of yesteryear? Actually, if God says 'Go ahead and buy all your favorite foods including wine, and strong liquor and gather in my PRESENCE and we'll have a feast' then I find it difficult to believe that God finds drinking a beer to be wrong....
Deuteronomy 14:20-29 (CJB)
20 but all clean flying creatures you may eat.

21 “You are not to eat any animal that dies naturally; although you may let a stranger staying with you eat it, or sell it to a foreigner; because you are a holy people for Adonai your God.

“You are not to boil a young animal in its mother’s milk.

(v) 22 “Every year you must take one tenth of everything your seed produces in the field, 23 and eat it in the presence of Adonai your God. In the place where he chooses to have his name live you will eat the tenth of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your cattle and sheep, so that you will learn to fear Adonai your God always. 24 But if the distance is too great for you, so that you are unable to transport it, because the place where Adonai chooses to put his name is too far away from you; then, when Adonai your God prospers you, 25 you are to convert it into money, take the money with you, go to the place which Adonai your God will choose, 26 and exchange the money for anything you want — cattle, sheep, wine, other intoxicating liquor, or anything you please — and you are to eat there in the presence of Adonai your God, and enjoy yourselves, you and your household.

27 “But don’t neglect the Levi staying with you, because he has no share or inheritance like yours. 28 At the end of every three years you are to take all the tenths of your produce from that year and store it in your towns. 29 Then the Levi, because he has no share or inheritance like yours, along with the foreigner, the orphan and the widow living in your towns, will come, eat and be satisfied — so that Adonai your God will bless you in everything your hands produce.
Keep in mind that God says not to get drunk because of excess...He teaches moderation in all things

Some younger Christians are former alcoholics. Well, they will always be alcoholics. It's just that God has taken away their desire to need alcohol and they wisely avoid consuming it to restart their old lifestyle.

For the record, wine is typically stronger than beer, and the question asked does not concern strong liquor. Most coolers are a bit stronger than beer. One would have to be delusional to think that Jesus made the wine at Cana purely for personal sport. I'm not even remotely suggesting anybody purchase the largest, strongest bottle or case of alcoholic beverage they can afford and carry. If God gave us brains to get to the Moon, I'm sure he gave us the ability to understand there is a difference between having a wee dram and consuming the entire keg. Those who don't have the ability to exercise reason and restraint are already alcoholics or can no longer think for themselves even when sober.

All the OP asked was if he could enjoy a glass of near beer on a hot summer day. If he had meant real beer or whiskey, rum, vodka, or wine, he would have said so. I've already had a difficult day dealing with people who drop hints public hints about situations, yet I'm told that I can't discuss it. Maybe, I should avoid people altogether as it seems I no longer fit in. If I misunderstood your comments, I apologize for sounding a bit harsh.