Salvation through Christ, by The letter of the Law

[TheWordIsOne]

greeting

there is something in my of a very long time since my quest to the road of salvation, and it's always finding the truth.
if I may a scenario of a sort, please bear with me, let say I am Christ, now Lucifer (Satan) has a problem not with man, but with Christ in heaven, the Adam (man) falls, of the result of Satan rebellion, now Satan has a plan, salvation is now the result Adam (man) fall, but in a time giving by the Lord God, for the future.
So the story is told throughout time for this coming future event, and the giving time Christ die, and this by law, for the wages of sin death.

In Ezekiel 18:4 "Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.
Now Christ die for the entire world for Adam till the end, now Christ by law now have dominion over the entire world (earth)

In Ephesians 1:20-23 which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places,
far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.
And He put all things under His feet and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

1 Corinthians 15:24-28 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
For "He has put all things under His feet." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

Now
Revelation 1:17-18 (KJV) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

In Luke 12:3-5 (NKJV) Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops.
"And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has the power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!

All this means to me as a sinner, that now I must renounce all of man's sins and Satan to Christ

In Matthew 10:32-34 "Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven.
But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

And only until this happens, then I may be saved and until Christ is completely and totally of the confession of Christ to men
Romans 10:10-13 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.
For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in Him will not be put to shame."
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.
For "whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved."

See I can do nothing for my salvation, I only can call, or be selected to confess or cry out (Romans 9:14-19)
Hebrews 4:12-16 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
Hebrews 4: 16 Let us, therefore, come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

See the letter of the law, is pacific, there is no way around it
Romans 9:14-19 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not!
For He says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion."
So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.
For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth."
Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?"

Christ has the power to choose not us, I think this is those who are only selected for salvation, Christ paid for the entire world and chooses who will die with their sins or not but the letter of the law is pacific, anything else is called a work, grace gospel man-made

this should bring fear, but I say something else about Satan's so call plan
Hebrews 4:12-16 that you may obtain mercy

 

[Bethel]

The Letter (Law) Killeth, but the Spirit Maketh alive.

If a person is trusting in the Law to get to heaven, then they are going to hell because the Law did not pay for their sin. The Law did not shed its blood for their Sin.
The Law and the Commandments, have no power to make you sinless, righteous, or forgiven of your sin.
All the LAW can do, is reveal that you are a Law Breaker, a sinner, needing a Savior.
So, when you hear the gospel of the Law being preached or taught, you are listening to a Cross rejecting, Christ Rejecting Gospel, and all those who teach against the Grace of God, by trying to replace the Blood of Jesus and the Cross of Christ with the Law and Commandments, are "openly rejecting the Cross of Christ" and "doing great insult to the BLood of Jesus".
They are in fact blaspheming the Holy Spirit by trying to replace the Cross of Christ, with the Old Testament Law of Moses.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

The Letter (Law) Killeth, but the Spirit Maketh alive.

If a person is trusting in the Law to get to heaven, then they are going to hell because the Law did not pay for their sin. The Law did not shed its blood for their Sin.
The Law and the Commandments, have no power to make you sinless, righteous, or forgiven of your sin.
All the LAW can do, is reveal that you are a Law Breaker, a sinner, needing a Savior.
So, when you hear the gospel of the Law being preached or taught, you are listening to a Cross rejecting, Christ Rejecting Gospel, and all those who teach against the Grace of God, by trying to replace the Blood of Jesus and the Cross of Christ with the Law and Commandments, are "openly rejecting the Cross of Christ" and "doing great insult to the BLood of Jesus".
They are in fact blaspheming the Holy Spirit by trying to replace the Cross of Christ, with the Old Testament Law of Moses.

the word of the Lord is governed by law, if not them how can anyone be saved?

 

[Bethel]

the word of the Lord is governed by law, if not them how can anyone be saved?

Jesus is the Word made Flesh.
The Law is not made for God.
Its made to direct man, (you) to the Cross = so that Man can be forgiven of the sin, that is revealed by the Law.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

if you say so

 

[Bethel]

if you say so

Jesus says so.
You should ask Him.
He'll direct you to this verse..... John 14:6

The He'll direct you to this one..... John 3:7

If you wont have it, then He'll direct you to this verse...... John 3:36

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Jesus says so.
You should ask Him.
He'll direct you to this verse..... John 14:6

The He'll direct you to this one..... John 3:7

If you wont have it, then He'll direct you to this verse...... John 3:36

heaven is not for me, it's for special people

 

[Bethel]

heaven is not for me, it's for special people

Heaven is for anyone who wants to go.
Its for anyone who does not want to go to hell.
Is that you?
You get to choose,

See, going to heaven is a personal choice, just like going to hell.

Jesus is the only way to heaven.. John 14:6
There is the choice.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Heaven is for anyone who wants to go.
Its for anyone who does not want to go to hell.
Is that you?
You get to choose,

See, going to heaven is a personal choice, just like going to hell.

Jesus is the only way to heaven.. John 14:6
There is the choice.

and earth isn't hell-like, heaven is for for special people

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Heaven is for anyone who wants to go.
Its for anyone who does not want to go to hell.
Is that you?
You get to choose,

See, going to heaven is a personal choice, just like going to hell.

Jesus is the only way to heaven.. John 14:6
There is the choice.

thank you for trying

 

[Shaolin]

greeting

there is something in my of a very long time since my quest to the road of salvation, and it's always finding the truth.
if I may a scenario of a sort, please bear with me, let say I am Christ, now Lucifer (Satan) has a problem not with man, but with Christ in heaven, the Adam (man) falls, of the result of Satan rebellion, now Satan has a plan, salvation is now the result Adam (man) fall, but in a time giving by the Lord God, for the future.
So the story is told throughout time for this coming future event, and the giving time Christ die, and this by law, for the wages of sin death.

In Ezekiel 18:4 "Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.
Now Christ die for the entire world for Adam till the end, now Christ by law now have dominion over the entire world (earth)

In Ephesians 1:20-23 which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places,
far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.
And He put all things under His feet and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

1 Corinthians 15:24-28 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
For "He has put all things under His feet." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

Now
Revelation 1:17-18 (KJV) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

In Luke 12:3-5 (NKJV) Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops.
"And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has the power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!

All this means to me as a sinner, that now I must renounce all of man's sins and Satan to Christ

In Matthew 10:32-34 "Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven.
But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

And only until this happens, then I may be saved and until Christ is completely and totally of the confession of Christ to men
Romans 10:10-13 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.
For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in Him will not be put to shame."
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.
For "whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved."

See I can do nothing for my salvation, I only can call, or be selected to confess or cry out (Romans 9:14-19)
Hebrews 4:12-16 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
Hebrews 4: 16 Let us, therefore, come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

See the letter of the law, is pacific, there is no way around it
Romans 9:14-19 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not!
For He says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion."
So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.
For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth."
Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?"

Christ has the power to choose not us, I think this is those who are only selected for salvation, Christ paid for the entire world and chooses who will die with their sins or not but the letter of the law is pacific, anything else is called a work, grace gospel man-made

this should bring fear, but I say something else about Satan's so call plan
Hebrews 4:12-16 that you may obtain mercy

Your English is very broken, and that makes it very hard to understand what you are trying to say.

It seems like you are confusing many things, but let me see if I get this...you think that Christ died because of the law? Christ sacrificed Himself not because of law, but because that was God's plan from the very beginning.

Bethel told you things about law, but not according to a complete knowledge or understanding. There was the law of Moses in the old covenant, today we are not under the law of Moses, today we are under the Law of Christ. There is still law today, it is just a different law.

The law of Christ is spelled out for us here:

1 John 3:23-24
And this is His commandments of the New Covenant, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and that we love one another, according as He has given us commandment to do; those who continually obey His commandments remain abiding in Him, and He will remain abiding in him; by this we know that He remains abiding in us, by reason of the Spirit of which He has given to us.

I will have to wait for you to reply...because again, I can't understand what you are trying to get at because of your English here.

Blessings.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Your English is very broken, and that makes it very hard to understand what you are trying to say.

It seems like you are confusing many things, but let me see if I get this...you think that Christ died because of the law? Christ sacrificed Himself not because of law, but because that was God's plan from the very beginning.

Bethel told you things about law, but not according to a complete knowledge or understanding. There was the law of Moses in the old covenant, today we are not under the law of Moses, today we are under the Law of Christ. There is still law today, it is just a different law.

The law of Christ is spelled out for us here:

1 John 3:23-24
And this is His commandments of the New Covenant, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and that we love one another, according as He has given us commandment to do; those who continually obey His commandments remain abiding in Him, and He will remain abiding in him; by this we know that He remains abiding in us, by reason of the Spirit of which He has given to us.

I will have to wait for you to reply...because again, I can't understand what you are trying to get at because of your English here.

Blessings.

Moses was the same, but they understood him, people read his books

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Your English is very broken, and that makes it very hard to understand what you are trying to say.

It seems like you are confusing many things, but let me see if I get this...you think that Christ died because of the law? Christ sacrificed Himself not because of law, but because that was God's plan from the very beginning.

Bethel told you things about law, but not according to a complete knowledge or understanding. There was the law of Moses in the old covenant, today we are not under the law of Moses, today we are under the Law of Christ. There is still law today, it is just a different law.

The law of Christ is spelled out for us here:

1 John 3:23-24
And this is His commandments of the New Covenant, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and that we love one another, according as He has given us commandment to do; those who continually obey His commandments remain abiding in Him, and He will remain abiding in him; by this we know that He remains abiding in us, by reason of the Spirit of which He has given to us.

I will have to wait for you to reply...because again, I can't understand what you are trying to get at because of your English here.

Blessings.

Who am I

Proverbs say
Proverbs 25:2-3 (KJV) It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.
The heaven for height, the earth for depth, and the heart of kings are unsearchable.

Then in Corinthians, it said
1 Corinthians 2:11 (NKJV) For what man knows the things of a man except for the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so, no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.

then in 1 Corinthians 2:10 (NKJV) But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

Proverbs say
Proverbs 9:9-12 (NKJV) Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser; Teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
For by me your days will be multiplied, And years of life will be added to you.
If you are wise, you are wise for yourself, And if you scoff, you will bear it alone."

note
fear of the Lord: This is the central theme of the Book of Proverbs (see 1:7). The only appropriate way to approach the holy God is with fear, that is, reverence. The term Holy One is an intensive plural of the Hebrew word for holy: “the most Holy One” or “the quintessence of holiness.” for yourself … alone: You will feel the effects of your wisdom or foolishness directly; you cannot escape them.

For me it was fear, but with great love
In Isaiah 28:9-10 (NKJV) "Whom will he teach knowledge? And whom will he make to understand the message? Those just weaned from milk? Those just drawn from the breasts?
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little."

my problem speech defect like Moses
Isaiah 28:11-12 (NKJV) For with stammering lips and another tongue, He will speak to this people,
To whom He said, "This is the rest with which You may cause the weary to rest," And, "This is the refreshing", Yet they would not hear.

my problem
stammering lips and another tongue
I am bilingual
In Exodus 4:10-12 (NLT2) But Moses pleaded with the LORD, “O Lord, I’m not very good with words. I never have been, and I’m not now, even though you have spoken to me. I get tongue-tied, and my words get tangled.”
Then the LORD asked Moses, “Who makes a person’s mouth? Who decides whether people speak or do not speak, hear or do not hear, see or do not see? Is it not I, the LORD?

 

[Shaolin]

Moses was the same, but they understood him, people read his books

Ah...no. Moses studdered...he didn't speak broken Hebrew.

 

[Shaolin]

Who am I

I don't know...but I know who you are not.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

I don't know...but I know who you are not.

not what?

 

[TheWordIsOne]

Ah...no. Moses studdered...he didn't speak broken Hebrew.

Exodus 4:10 (NKJV) Then Moses said to the LORD, "O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither before nor since You have spoken to Your servant, but I am slow of speech and slow of tongue."

English Standard Version (ESV) But Moses said to the Lord, “Oh, my Lord, I am not eloquent, either in the past or since you have spoken to your servant, but I am slow of speech and of the tongue.”

 

[Shaolin]

Exodus 4:10 (NKJV) Then Moses said to the LORD, "O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither before nor since You have spoken to Your servant, but I am slow of speech and slow of tongue."

English Standard Version (ESV) But Moses said to the Lord, “Oh, my Lord, I am not eloquent, either in the past or since you have spoken to your servant, but I am slow of speech and of the tongue.”

The words "slow" and "eloquent" do not come close to the meaning "broken."

Anyways, have a nice day.

 

[TheWordIsOne]

The words "slow" and "eloquent" do not come close to the meaning "broken."

Anyways, have a nice day.

if you say so

 

[Bill]

greeting

there is something in my of a very long time since my quest to the road of salvation, and it's always finding the truth.
if I may a scenario of a sort, please bear with me, let say I am Christ, now Lucifer (Satan) has a problem not with man, but with Christ in heaven, the Adam (man) falls, of the result of Satan rebellion, now Satan has a plan, salvation is now the result Adam (man) fall, but in a time giving by the Lord God, for the future.
So the story is told throughout time for this coming future event, and the giving time Christ die, and this by law, for the wages of sin death.

In Ezekiel 18:4 "Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.
Now Christ die for the entire world for Adam till the end, now Christ by law now have dominion over the entire world (earth)

In Ephesians 1:20-23 which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places,
far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.
And He put all things under His feet and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

1 Corinthians 15:24-28 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
For "He has put all things under His feet." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

Now
Revelation 1:17-18 (KJV) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

In Luke 12:3-5 (NKJV) Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops.
"And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has the power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!

All this means to me as a sinner, that now I must renounce all of man's sins and Satan to Christ

In Matthew 10:32-34 "Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven.
But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

And only until this happens, then I may be saved and until Christ is completely and totally of the confession of Christ to men
Romans 10:10-13 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.
For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in Him will not be put to shame."
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.
For "whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved."

See I can do nothing for my salvation, I only can call, or be selected to confess or cry out (Romans 9:14-19)
Hebrews 4:12-16 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
Hebrews 4: 16 Let us, therefore, come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

See the letter of the law, is pacific, there is no way around it
Romans 9:14-19 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not!
For He says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion."
So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.
For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth."
Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?"

Christ has the power to choose not us, I think this is those who are only selected for salvation, Christ paid for the entire world and chooses who will die with their sins or not but the letter of the law is pacific, anything else is called a work, grace gospel man-made

this should bring fear, but I say something else about Satan's so call plan
Hebrews 4:12-16 that you may obtain mercy

In the Gospel of John the very first chapter reads in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God.

The Word and the Law are One