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One of the arguments that those who are same sex attracted and practice homosexuality make
to support their desire to have sex with this person is that they "love" the person.
Let's explore, and I invite you to listen attentively, I'll get there eventually.
First I will start with certain actions which are essential for humanity and show a connection
to pleasure or a strong biological feeling that incentivizes that behavior.
For example, we need to breathe air, and we are created that when we are not breathing or suffocating,
there is an intense feeling that warrants an immediate response (such as drowning underwater).
The body makes us aware of this need because it is essential to life. We didn't have to be created this
way, but God knew the importance of linking that feeling to this biological need.
Now let us look at eating. Eating food is no doubt important and needed for the survival of the individual,
and for the most part and for most people, eating is pleasurable. This is why one of the first things signs
that someone is sick (not well, physically or mentally) is that they lose their appetite. If eating was
not very pleasurable people likely wouldn't eat as much or seek out food. But God knew the importance
of linking this feeling to this biological need.
Then we have sex. Sex is said to be one of the most pleasurable if not the most, feeling that we experience
in our body. Now, God knows that it is important for humanity to have children, God even commanded
us to be fruitful and multiply. I believe that God didn't have to make sex pleasurable, but God knew
the importance of linking that feeling to this need for humanity, and the feeling also motivates us
to perform that task.
Next let us look at some of our basic needs which are important but not as essential and not as pleasurable.
For example, it is important to brush your teeth, it is important to take a bath regularly, and it is important
to shave your body(groom); however all of these task of hygiene are not super pleasurable and sometimes
people don't do these things as often as they should because they see it as a task.
Now if God wanted to, he could have made taking a shower, or brushing your teeth, feel just as pleasurable
as eating food or having sex, but God chose not to. These items which are less pleasurable, people don't seem to do or seek out
as much as those things which are more pleasurable.
Ok, I'm finally getting to the main point. When you listen to videos of same sex attracted/ homosexual individuals
talking to Christians, they often argue that they should be able to love anyone.
Now the question is, if the act of sex was not pleasurable, if intercourse (any type) was bland as brushing
your teeth, would homosexuals still seek to pursue that behavior and go against natural order?
My belief is no most would not. I think the lust and desire to experience whatever pleasure they seek in
that behavior is what is drawing them towards that relationship and not love (their are other factors sexual abuse, trauma, absent parents, etc).
I love my grandmother and that meant that I would help her around the house doing chores, those chores were not fun.
I love my parents, that meant that I would work and get good grades to make them proud, studying hard was not fun.
I love my friends and I would work hard to get them good gifts on their birthdays, working hard to do that task was not fun,
My point is when you love someone it often requires sacrifice, and it not necessarily linked to the feeling of lust.
Yet many homosexuals will say, I should have sex with someone of the same sex because I love them.
My response, is what's love got to do with sex?
Once again, if sex had zero pleasure associated with it, such as the various task that we do because we love someone (working hard, sacrifices, etc)
also have zero pleasure associated with it, would homosexuals still seek that lifestyle and all the behaviors associated if there was
no pleasure involved? Would they seek it out because they "love the person". I don't think so because when they are
doing that act, it is not mainly because of love but because of lust.
God choose to make sex pleasurable because God wants us to do it to multiply and create more families. He really really wants
us to. But God wants us to do it in marriage (man and women) because He doesn't want children just being born outside
of families which love and will protect them. Or outside of a mother and father who will give children both what only
a man can give and what only a women can give. And God wants sex in the union of a man and a women to cut down
on those STDs which are connected to homosexual intercourse.
to support their desire to have sex with this person is that they "love" the person.
Let's explore, and I invite you to listen attentively, I'll get there eventually.
First I will start with certain actions which are essential for humanity and show a connection
to pleasure or a strong biological feeling that incentivizes that behavior.
For example, we need to breathe air, and we are created that when we are not breathing or suffocating,
there is an intense feeling that warrants an immediate response (such as drowning underwater).
The body makes us aware of this need because it is essential to life. We didn't have to be created this
way, but God knew the importance of linking that feeling to this biological need.
Now let us look at eating. Eating food is no doubt important and needed for the survival of the individual,
and for the most part and for most people, eating is pleasurable. This is why one of the first things signs
that someone is sick (not well, physically or mentally) is that they lose their appetite. If eating was
not very pleasurable people likely wouldn't eat as much or seek out food. But God knew the importance
of linking this feeling to this biological need.
Then we have sex. Sex is said to be one of the most pleasurable if not the most, feeling that we experience
in our body. Now, God knows that it is important for humanity to have children, God even commanded
us to be fruitful and multiply. I believe that God didn't have to make sex pleasurable, but God knew
the importance of linking that feeling to this need for humanity, and the feeling also motivates us
to perform that task.
Next let us look at some of our basic needs which are important but not as essential and not as pleasurable.
For example, it is important to brush your teeth, it is important to take a bath regularly, and it is important
to shave your body(groom); however all of these task of hygiene are not super pleasurable and sometimes
people don't do these things as often as they should because they see it as a task.
Now if God wanted to, he could have made taking a shower, or brushing your teeth, feel just as pleasurable
as eating food or having sex, but God chose not to. These items which are less pleasurable, people don't seem to do or seek out
as much as those things which are more pleasurable.
Ok, I'm finally getting to the main point. When you listen to videos of same sex attracted/ homosexual individuals
talking to Christians, they often argue that they should be able to love anyone.
Now the question is, if the act of sex was not pleasurable, if intercourse (any type) was bland as brushing
your teeth, would homosexuals still seek to pursue that behavior and go against natural order?
My belief is no most would not. I think the lust and desire to experience whatever pleasure they seek in
that behavior is what is drawing them towards that relationship and not love (their are other factors sexual abuse, trauma, absent parents, etc).
I love my grandmother and that meant that I would help her around the house doing chores, those chores were not fun.
I love my parents, that meant that I would work and get good grades to make them proud, studying hard was not fun.
I love my friends and I would work hard to get them good gifts on their birthdays, working hard to do that task was not fun,
My point is when you love someone it often requires sacrifice, and it not necessarily linked to the feeling of lust.
Yet many homosexuals will say, I should have sex with someone of the same sex because I love them.
My response, is what's love got to do with sex?
Once again, if sex had zero pleasure associated with it, such as the various task that we do because we love someone (working hard, sacrifices, etc)
also have zero pleasure associated with it, would homosexuals still seek that lifestyle and all the behaviors associated if there was
no pleasure involved? Would they seek it out because they "love the person". I don't think so because when they are
doing that act, it is not mainly because of love but because of lust.
God choose to make sex pleasurable because God wants us to do it to multiply and create more families. He really really wants
us to. But God wants us to do it in marriage (man and women) because He doesn't want children just being born outside
of families which love and will protect them. Or outside of a mother and father who will give children both what only
a man can give and what only a women can give. And God wants sex in the union of a man and a women to cut down
on those STDs which are connected to homosexual intercourse.
