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Same-sex attraction, sex, love, lust, pleasure, purpose, and God

I have often wondered about fornication. In the OT one would receive 100 lashes for it. Today, I feel God is still displeased by it, but I do believe He has a lot of extra understanding for many in it. We are living in a different era. I do not believe that all in fornication are living in evil. It is simply not a 'best case scenario'. I am not referring to those that date and dump someone every 1-6 months.
are you serious, I guess you think that :GOD has CHANGED, but don't you know he still have the same attitude in New Testament like He had in the Old Testament. Don't you know He is "IMMUTABLE" you go to Hell and then the lake of Fire burning with brimstone.

I told y'all these people 99.99 % might be going to hell! on A freight train! thinking God has Change and Jesus died on a cross so you can have sex without being married and they only have to say, is "Forgive" me father I have sin! :pensive: That is why the homo, think they can do it too! Forgive me I have sin and keep on do it 77x7 every day!

I saw a note one time my wife wrote by accident. "father forgive me I have sinned". oops, she done, done something. must have have been playing around with JODIE! :eyes:

It is going to take more than "father forgive me I have sin":eyes:

Hop around here, jumping from bed to bed if you want too! :eyes:

oops, that is cutting it to close.
 
are you serious, I guess you think that :GOD has CHANGED, but don't you know he still have the same attitude in New Testament like He had in the Old Testament. Don't you know He is "IMMUTABLE" you go to Hell and then the lake of Fire burning with brimstone.

I told y'all these people 99.99 % might be going to hell! on A freight train! thinking God has Change and Jesus died on a cross so you can have sex without being married and the only you have to is "Forgive" father I have sin! :pensive: That is why the homo, think they can do it too! Forgive me I have sin and keep on do it 77x7 every day!

Homosexuality received capital punishment in the OT. Fornication did not.

Fornication was not allowed for a number of reasons. Chief being that a man ''could have his cake and eat it''. He did not have to commit to and look after a woman if he was able to use her in a sense.

I do not know a single person in my generation that did not have sex before marriage. Do you?

I know many that fornicated and married. Fornicated, got pregnant and then married. Fornicated, saved up money, got married when they had good savings for a wedding.

Marriage is a big step and it needs to stay that way. It is a lifetime dedication to 1. God and 2. Spouse and children. A complete self sacrifice for your entire lifetime. We cannot enter into this just because we 'had sex' with a person. It is so easy today to 'have sex' with the wrong person. We are living in a day and age where this is just the way it is.
 
well what are YOU going to DO with this Command from Jesus Christ in the new testament throw it away and put in under your feet and say it does not matter

We must realize it is not what you believe when we are dealing with the laws and The commandments of Jesus Christ, it is what it is. we are corrupted people and a great history of rejecting the words of GOD, and if a person is practicing "Fornication: and that pollution is Not :GRIEVING The SPIRIT of GOD in you them, The "SPIRIT of GOD is Not in them! you cannot lie down in A strange BED and be connected with a unclean spirit, and NOT GRIEVE the Spirit of GOD and contaminate not the Body. you are not saved.:pensive:

15Do you not know that your bodies are parts of Christ? Shall I then take away the parts of Christ and make them parts of a prostitute? [j]Far from it! 16Or do you not know that the one who joinshimself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, “THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH.”17But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 18Flee sexual immorality. Everyother sin that a person commits is outside the body, but the [k]sexually immoral person sins againsthis own body. 19Or do you not know that your body is a [l]temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whomyou have from [m]God, and that you are not your own? 20For you have been bought for a price: therefore glorify God in your body.

it is evil to commit fornication and the only way you do not know this and have compromised, GOD has turn you over to your own teachings and desirers and you cannot know the real truth because he has given you over to yourself. So you can't believe, he has blinded you eyes! :pensive:

GOD is not a compromising sissy he mean business and He laughs at people that reject His laws.Because he knows their end! You miss with GOD< you will suffer the consequence He is Terrible God And To Be Feared! Jesus Warn Us About Him!
 
Homosexuality received capital punishment in the OT. Fornication did not.

Fornication was not allowed for a number of reasons. Chief being that a man ''could have his cake and eat it''. He did not have to commit to and look after a woman if he was able to use her in a sense.

I do not know a single person in my generation that did not have sex before marriage. Do you?

I know many that fornicated and married. Fornicated, got pregnant and then married. Fornicated, saved up money, got married when they had good savings for a wedding.

Marriage is a big step and it needs to stay that way. It is a lifetime dedication to 1. God and 2. Spouse and children. A complete self sacrifice for your entire lifetime. We cannot enter into this just because we 'had sex' with a person. It is so easy today to 'have sex' with the wrong person. We are living in a day and age where this is just the way it is.
I am Going To Make It Plain And Simple For The Unlearn, When You Fornicate, You Cause Demons To Enter The Body! And This Demon Call More kinds of demons to join them. lying demons. stealing demons, ohoring demons, and the demons in crease their activities and you cannot control your self in many arenas. and ways.

Now you do not have to believe me but you have been warn. and if you think, That The God In You, Enjoys Fornicating ,Ohoring And Lying And Drinking And Sleeping With Some Others Wife And With Women Who Have Slept With Mutil Men In The Past, Or Many Women, You Must Think God Enjoy's Filth!

AND entertaining demons with praise.

Now a christian may do anything But A real CHILD of the LIVING GOD " do not practice such , THE PARAKLETOS will not let it to happen:pensive:

if a Real Child of GOD sleep with someone who is not their Spouse they will be "TORMENTED" by Grieving The Holy Spirit of GOD. but a nominal Christian will only be brother with, is his or her "Conscious" and be worried, that's all.

But The True Child of God Will Be "TORMENTED" By "GRIEVING THE SPIRIT of The LIVING GOD" total TORMENTING into Correction. No prayer life no fellowship with God, men yes But not with GOD or JESUS and The Holy Spirit that was in You will HIDE and close himself off from you! How is it possible? for with GOD aLL things is Possible!
 
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Man, this is one of the mysteries of your westerners that I could never understand ... why are you guys so damn obsessed with "same sex attraction" and taking it so seriously, making it into an identity above all other identities? This is nothing more than a fetish from ancient Greece, and for some folks, what's supposed to be friendship is mistaken as love. Over 30 plus years of my life, I've never known anybody who has a "same sex attraction". Of course, I can be attracted to a lot of men for their status, wisdom, muscles, or even just their cool outfit, etc, but never in a "sexual" way. That is unthinkable to me.

What you may not have realized is that this is a spiritual warfare. The enemy is using this as a "wedge issue" to destroy traditional marriage. Without stable family units as a security net, the government weighs in and gains control. All of your discussions about your feelings and moralities and whatever are just distractions that blind you from seeing what this is really about. Yes, this is one significant sign of the times, it also serves as a LITMUS TEST that separates the wheat from the tares. It tells you which churches are the real churches that unequivocally teach you Gen. 1:27 and 2:24 - "in His image of God created MALE and FEMALE;" "therefore a MAN shall leave his FATHER and MOTHER and be joined to his WIFE, and they shall become one flesh." It draws the line between the faithful Philadelphians and the lukewarm Laodiceans. That, is the purpose of God. The only question is, where you and I stand.
 
One of the arguments that those who are same sex attracted and practice homosexuality make
to support their desire to have sex with this person is that they "love" the person.

Let's explore, and I invite you to listen attentively, I'll get there eventually.

First I will start with certain actions which are essential for humanity and show a connection
to pleasure or a strong biological feeling that incentivizes that behavior.

For example, we need to breathe air, and we are created that when we are not breathing or suffocating,
there is an intense feeling that warrants an immediate response (such as drowning underwater).
The body makes us aware of this need because it is essential to life. We didn't have to be created this
way, but God knew the importance of linking that feeling to this biological need.

Now let us look at eating. Eating food is no doubt important and needed for the survival of the individual,
and for the most part and for most people, eating is pleasurable. This is why one of the first things signs
that someone is sick (not well, physically or mentally) is that they lose their appetite. If eating was
not very pleasurable people likely wouldn't eat as much or seek out food. But God knew the importance
of linking this feeling to this biological need.

Then we have sex. Sex is said to be one of the most pleasurable if not the most, feeling that we experience
in our body. Now, God knows that it is important for humanity to have children, God even commanded
us to be fruitful and multiply. I believe that God didn't have to make sex pleasurable, but God knew
the importance of linking that feeling to this need for humanity, and the feeling also motivates us
to perform that task.

Next let us look at some of our basic needs which are important but not as essential and not as pleasurable.
For example, it is important to brush your teeth, it is important to take a bath regularly, and it is important
to shave your body(groom); however all of these task of hygiene are not super pleasurable and sometimes
people don't do these things as often as they should because they see it as a task.
Now if God wanted to, he could have made taking a shower, or brushing your teeth, feel just as pleasurable
as eating food or having sex, but God chose not to. These items which are less pleasurable, people don't seem to do or seek out
as much as those things which are more pleasurable.

Ok, I'm finally getting to the main point. When you listen to videos of same sex attracted/ homosexual individuals
talking to Christians, they often argue that they should be able to love anyone.

Now the question is, if the act of sex was not pleasurable, if intercourse (any type) was bland as brushing
your teeth, would homosexuals still seek to pursue that behavior and go against natural order?

My belief is no most would not. I think the lust and desire to experience whatever pleasure they seek in
that behavior is what is drawing them towards that relationship and not love (their are other factors sexual abuse, trauma, absent parents, etc).

I love my grandmother and that meant that I would help her around the house doing chores, those chores were not fun.
I love my parents, that meant that I would work and get good grades to make them proud, studying hard was not fun.
I love my friends and I would work hard to get them good gifts on their birthdays, working hard to do that task was not fun,

My point is when you love someone it often requires sacrifice, and it not necessarily linked to the feeling of lust.
Yet many homosexuals will say, I should have sex with someone of the same sex because I love them.
My response, is what's love got to do with sex?

Once again, if sex had zero pleasure associated with it, such as the various task that we do because we love someone (working hard, sacrifices, etc)
also have zero pleasure associated with it, would homosexuals still seek that lifestyle and all the behaviors associated if there was
no pleasure involved? Would they seek it out because they "love the person". I don't think so because when they are
doing that act, it is not mainly because of love but because of lust.

God choose to make sex pleasurable because God wants us to do it to multiply and create more families. He really really wants
us to. But God wants us to do it in marriage (man and women) because He doesn't want children just being born outside
of families which love and will protect them. Or outside of a mother and father who will give children both what only
a man can give and what only a women can give. And God wants sex in the union of a man and a women to cut down
on those STDs which are connected to homosexual intercourse.
First, it's not love. Anything not straight/normal attraction is a tainted, ruining, perversion of love.
Second, there can be o "LGB+ Christians". The idea is 100% hypocritical.
Sadly and disturbingly, more people are embracing the abnormal, strange, weird, perverted, etc.
Physically, two men don't go together and two women don't go together.
Emotionally and physically no person can give 100% of themselves to more than one person. It's not possible.
No Christian can like or support that which God hates and in this case if they don't change no amount of screaming "I'm a Christian." is going to save them.
The CDC alone has stats on these groups and that is a whole other topic.
 
Man, this is one of the mysteries of your westerners that I could never understand ... why are you guys so damn obsessed with "same sex attraction" and taking it so seriously, making it into an identity above all other identities? This is nothing more than a fetish from ancient Greece, and for some folks, what's supposed to be friendship is mistaken as love. Over 30 plus years of my life, I've never known anybody who has a "same sex attraction". Of course, I can be attracted to a lot of men for their status, wisdom, muscles, or even just their cool outfit, etc, but never in a "sexual" way. That is unthinkable to me.

What you may not have realized is that this is a spiritual warfare. The enemy is using this as a "wedge issue" to destroy traditional marriage. Without stable family units as a security net, the government weighs in and gains control. All of your discussions about your feelings and moralities and whatever are just distractions that blind you from seeing what this is really about. Yes, this is one significant sign of the times, it also serves as a LITMUS TEST that separates the wheat from the tares. It tells you which churches are the real churches that unequivocally teach you Gen. 1:27 and 2:24 - "in His image of God created MALE and FEMALE;" "therefore a MAN shall leave his FATHER and MOTHER and be joined to his WIFE, and they shall become one flesh." It draws the line between the faithful Philadelphians and the lukewarm Laodiceans. That, is the purpose of God. The only question is, where you and I stand.
Ok you said for starters:
. "why are you guys so damn obsessed with "same sex attraction" and taking it so seriously, making it into an identity above all other identities?

Now Taiwan has about "23 million people", and "Taiwan is about 14,000 square miles

The United States in which I been in about every state and spent time in 47 states out of 50 STATES, I am 71.

There are over "331 Million people living here and over 3,797 Million square miles

So sir, we got more PEOPLE WITH "same sex" attraction from just about ever nation in the world than your country have people!

And most likely they have enough money to buy your country and kick all y'all out! or make you a convert!

Think about that, like Taiwan don't have any "LADY BOYS" wearing high heels and mini Skirts and lip stick on!

You might as well clam down if the decision is about "Twinkle toes" in These United States of American and they want to talk about it, well said!, and as I am thinking about it "You just Might have some "Taiwan, Sugar in your Tank"!:kissing_heart:
 
Ok you said for starters:
. "why are you guys so damn obsessed with "same sex attraction" and taking it so seriously, making it into an identity above all other identities?

Now Taiwan has about "23 million people", and "Taiwan is about 14,000 square miles

The United States in which I been in about every state and spent time in 47 states out of 50 STATES, I am 71.

There are over "331 Million people living here and over 3,797 Million square miles

So sir, we got more PEOPLE WITH "same sex" attraction from just about ever nation in the world than your country have people!

And most likely they have enough money to buy your country and kick all y'all out! or make you a convert!

Think about that, like Taiwan don't have any "LADY BOYS" wearing high heels and mini Skirts and lip stick on!

You might as well clam down if the decision is about "Twinkle toes" in These United States of American and they want to talk about it, well said!, and as I am thinking about it "You just Might have some "Taiwan, Sugar in your Tank"!:kissing_heart:
Psst, I randomly selected Taiwan to fill in my profile since it was "required", you really think I come from there? Well I've changed it into Undisclosed, what're you gonna say now?
 
Psst, I randomly selected Taiwan to fill in my profile since it was "required", you really think I come from there? Well I've changed it into Undisclosed, what're you gonna say now?
He/she tends to always think they are right no matter what. Many have a problem with this person. Best to ignore. If repeated attempts to correct someone go ignored and they continue they aren't being productive.
 
I see what he/she put therefore:
The first quoted statement is an opinion not a fact.
The statement about Taiwan is off-topic.
This person shows they do support the LGB+.
He/she also "colors", BOLD, and does other "fancy" things to make his/her responses seem superior. Even goes so far as to make an insult and humor.
This response alone added nothing to the conversation.
 
I see what he/she put therefore:
The first quoted statement is an opinion not a fact.
The statement about Taiwan is off-topic.
This person shows they do support the LGB+.
He/she also "colors", BOLD, and does other "fancy" things to make his/her responses seem superior. Even goes so far as to make an insult and humor.
This response alone added nothing to the conversation.
May God have mercy on him, amen.
 
I only can go by what you print.
Yeah, you "go by what I print" 'cause you've got nothing else to "go by". You have no idea why America from bottom to the top is so obsessed with "same sex attraction" and plaguing the entire world with it, you don't seem able to engage in an intelligent conversation with respectful manner, so all you can to is "go by" after me. Good night, sir. All is forgive, no hard feelings.
 
Now to go Way back to another post. Fornication is when two single people a guy and a gal have sex..together. it won't send anyone to hell.

Homosexuality is the sexual activity that is sinning against your own body -- doing /.allowing things to be done to your body that it wasn't intended for causing injury or disease. And it's an abomination to God. It's putrid to Him.
 
Yeah, you "go by what I print" 'cause you've got nothing else to "go by". You have no idea why America from bottom to the top is so obsessed with "same sex attraction" and plaguing the entire world with it, you don't seem able to engage in an intelligent conversation with respectful manner, so all you can to is "go by" after me. Good night, sir. All is forgive, no hard feelings.
"The LORD is SOVEREIGN" and All of The Inhabitant:...etc. You do know what we are? If not, do not think so highly or speak so highly of yourself, Because>>>>>
It seems I must remind you!:eyes: because it seems, you are having a moment.


"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?"

Do you sir, need a "Interpreter" since this is retaining to you? That is a question for your information. Now please and ponder in the beyond of the mortals "FINITE MIND" and dwell into that which is "Incomprehensible" which lies in "The Eternals" where The LORD has commanded us to Set our minds there.

Do you feel me now? for I a awaiting for your Approach. Do you hear the echo? Speaking regarding "The
TailHook"

PloughBoy, and I am waving the Flag on The Ship.


 
"Fornication is when two single people a guy and a gal have sex..together. it won't send anyone to hell." - You leave out a key word here. MARRIED
" n - Sexual intercourse between people who are NOT married to each other, especially when considered as a sin. aka. Adultery.
It most certainly is a sin and it is done on purpose and in sin. If their mind is right they won't do it. God knows who truly repented and since one of mankind's biggest and a sin that we fall easily prey to of sexual immorality that will be the downfall of many.
 
Now to go Way back to another post. Fornication is when two single people a guy and a gal have sex..together. it won't send anyone to hell.

Homosexuality is the sexual activity that is sinning against your own body -- doing /.allowing things to be done to your body that it wasn't intended for causing injury or disease. And it's an abomination to God. It's putrid to Him.

New King James Version (1 Corinthians 6:9):eyes:
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

According to the Bible A Fornicator Is Sexua!Lly Immoral Person!
and when A person commits Fornicator that opens the Door for the invasions of "DEMONS", all kinds, deceptive demons leading the way, and calling other to follow, especially The demon that makes people believe lies and they do enter christians, and the "Holy Ghost" go some where and hide and close the door, until that person "repents" and clean up, and Three Hail Marys, and father forgive I have sin, does not clean that person up from the residue of such "contaminating Filth! from the Legions!

Once those demons get in you, through sexual intercourse you will believe LIES and all kinds of Deceptions!
And they will remain there until you repent and they are cast out! and Your body your has been "WASHED OUT"!
"Sin blinds you"
King James Bible
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

New King James Version
But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness,
let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints;

American Standard Version
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as becometh saints;

Berean Study Bible
But among you, as is proper among the saints,
there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed.:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::(:(:(:(


You play with Fire you will get burn.o_O

I going to say it, They will not teach this in the church to men! and it is a reason why!!

and this is why!
GOD has said:

24Now therefore, my sons, listen to me,
And pay attention to the words of my mouth.

25Do not let your heart turn aside to her ways,
Do not stray into her paths.

26For many are the victims she has brought to ruin,
And numerous are all those slaughtered by her.

27Her house is the way to Sheol, :eyes:
Descending to the chambers of death.:eyes:

If she is not your WIFE!!!!
Proverbs 5:8

New Living Translation
Stay away from her! Don’t go near the door of her house!

American Standard Version
Remove thy way far from her, And come not nigh the door of her house;

Berean Study Bible
Keep your path far from her; do not go near the door of her house,



And one looking at a person is not going to send you to hell! to lust at them will not either. Looking at a woman or man to lust after them will lead you into a sin, but I bet it will not defile you into catching a "STD"! but you can repent and quickly be restored. but not if you commit fornication. Think. such acts, separate you from GOD by connecting to another person by sexual intercourse.

Think! it is a lot more serious than breaking a rule. so many other cells enter your body of all kinds "natural" and spiritual" entities "visible and invisible" with no protection from GOD that union has not been "Ordain" by GOD, that kind of Union has a "CURSE" on it. that relationship has been CURSED by GOD! to be invaded by natural and demonic forces have permission to enter you and bring other contaminants with them. Their cannot be any good thing come out of it! it produces fruit in its season.:eyes: Whatever you plant there comes a harvest and don't I know.

Leviticus 18:20
You must not lie carnally with your neighbor's wife and thus defile yourself with her.
Deuteronomy 22:22
If a man is found lying with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

Now no body has to believe me! it is a reason why GOD told the "ISRAELITES" kill "Men. women, and children and some times he said save the females if they have not know or had sex with a man. Some of these people had lied down with animals and spread this stuff in their DNA through generations and GOD did not want ISRAEL to inter marry with these people and be contaminated with them, Kill them all, the animals too, he would say, and if ISRAEL didn't obey, he said they would be snare to them. And before you knew it, the Bible "ISRAEL" was more wicked than all of The other nations around them, They had Been contaminated, By so many demonic forces they became a Stench in The Nostrils of GOD!

Your pastors your churches has not told you all of the truth because they refuse to accept the truth once saved, they play the lot to and contaminated their own selves from generation to generation, until we come into "The GREAT FALLING AWAY" and "Where sin did abound, Grace abound that much more"

We are a very corrupted group of people. but "saved by grace". even now where sin runs rapid and the truth lies spreading in the streets. as The ancient Prophet has proclaim " A Biblical Motif"

enough

PloughBoy






 
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