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I don't understand. I clarified that I was a Christian before I blasphemed the Spirit, altrough not from heart, but I rejected God and , His way, His truth. But it wasn't else but plain foolishness, and anger. And later years later on I made that deal with the demons and I rejected God's mercy. But that wasn't serious after I realized what I did I regretted it, and understood it(I mean by that by why was God judjing them so "harshly" and why will sent them to eternal fire and to perish) and tried to do things back as there were before, with almost no success.

I mean I understood why, I did to much, I wanted to save them, and I did believe to much incorrectly, it just simply was to much to take for me that He sends them to eternal torture. I'm a person who sees(at least I have) the bright side of everything, the better side and that took away and messed up my relationship with God. It was a short relationship because in the beginning i did not listen to Him, altrough He led me by His Spirit, and after I did not recognize Him(but I somehow feel that He was helping me and I love Him for that and for other things). But is it possible to not recognise Him, because of your deeds? To not know entirely that is Him, but to feel it? With this background am I disqualified, with no chance of turning back? I desire a bit to hear one day His voice clearly. What I didn't understood is why you affirmed that I haven't known the Holy Spirit? I haven't written that way. I way just detoured by my own recklessness snd foolishness.

What does the Spirit say about me? Without anything I've written. He knows the person you're talking to, behing these lines, can you tell me please anything? Bible verse will do but I desire a bit of enlightement in two sentences, that would mean much, and cause much hapiness. Thank you.
Have a good day. And be blessed
How did you blaspheme the Holy Spirit?
 
why does that matter? I don't wish to share. I used some insuitable words.
Because I think you only backslide. And that is different from blasphemy against the Spirit. Do you know that Joly Spirit only quotes new testament verses??
 
Why do you thing I'vd only backslidden?
2. I don't think that's true. I believe when He shows prophecies to people, or some verses for making progress, or for general knowledge He quotes from the old testament to. In my situation He quoted rarely from the Old testament, often from the Book of Proverbs.
 
Why do you thing I'vd only backslidden?
2. I don't think that's true. I believe when He shows prophecies to people, or some verses for making progress, or for general knowledge He quotes from the old testament to. In my situation He quoted rarely from the Old testament, often from the Book of Proverbs.
If you havent ever been a preacher or a teacher of the Word, it would be very hard for you to commit blasphemy against the Spirit.
 
You would have to have gone through all 5 steps. And that would take a preacher of along time to have done that.


The Unforgiveable Sin

BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT (5 STEPS)
Matt 12:30-32
30 "He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.
31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
32 "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Heb 6:4-6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
I Jn 5:16
16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.
2 Pet 2:21
21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.
1Thes 5:19
19 Do not quench the Spirit.
Luke 12:10
10 "And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven.
Matt 26:24
24 "The Son of Man indeed goes just as it is written of Him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born."
Matt 21:19
19 And seeing a fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it but leaves, and said to it, "Let no fruit grow on you ever again." And immediately the fig tree withered away.
(NKJ)

There are 5 steps in blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Heb 6-4 defines blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Only preachers that have gone through these 5 steps can be unforgiven of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Until one gets through all 5 steps they will be back sliding, or stumbling, or blaspheming. But if one gets through all 5 steps and then turns away. or says no to the Holy Spirit. Even now there are only two acceptable responses to the Holy Spirit. Obey or repent. They will never be called back. The milk understanding is 3 to 4 years long. The meat understanding is 11 years long. At the end of the 14 years one should come to revelations from Jesus. To rewrite his conscience. The conscience being your book of beliefs in your mind. But it takes the whole 14 years to crucify the flesh. I have been receiving these revelations now for 10 years. And if you will look in Gal 1-9 through Gal 2-2 you will see where Paul is exsplaining how long it takes to start receiving revelations of Christ. The Holy Spirit only quotes one verse at a time. But when it is time Jesus is the one who quotes alot of verses in a role. That is how He reprograms us. If you blaspheme agains the Holy Spirit which is now Jesus. There will be no forgiveness.

2Co 3-17
Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord [is], there [is] liberty.

2 Cor 11:12-15
12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
(NKJ)

Heb 10:26
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
(NKJ)

2 Pet 3:5-6
5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water,
6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.
(NKJ)

2 Pet 2:20-22
20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning.
21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.
22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
(NKJ)

[Mar 3:27-29
27 "No one can enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. And then he will plunder his house.
28 "Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter;
29 "but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation"--
 
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