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Serving Other Gods is Satanism!

Our attention would be better used by focusing on God / Jesus Christ.

What exactly was your point in sharing that Video. Nothing productive that I could see.

Looking at Ephesians 6: 10 "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. vs 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. vs 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers , against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. vs 13 There fore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all to stand."

vs 14 - having girded your waist with Truth, the breastplate of righteousness, vs 15 shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; vs 16 taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. vs 17 and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God
vs 18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, etc."

I'm not RCC so not really interested.

Isaiah 7:15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.

You should be interested in the Antichrist, otherwise you are not a Real Follower of Christ. Throughout the Scriptures/Bible from Genesis to Revelation the teaching is the difference between Good and Evil. Real Followers of Christ having seen the film, The Seventh Day, would know what is the point.
 
In your particular case -- it depends on what you're trying to teach as being God's Word.

Therefore, you recognise there are many different Interpretations of Scriptures/Bible. Did you know that the Roman Catholic Church banned people from reading the Scriptures/Bible and getting knowledge of Salvation? What do you believe RCC did when access to the Bible/Scriptures became widespread?
 
That is one word that could be used like brood of vipers another .

We live in a one world government the father of lies the god of this world .The kingdom of God does not come by observing the temporal corrupted things. The whole living creation moans in hope of the incorruptible.

The fathers as a law of the fathers (I heard it through the grape vine) they went around mudering men and woamn who d did not belive thier I heard it through the grape vine oral traditon of the fathers (legion) They tried to prove all things written in the law and the prophets (the Bible) was a heresy so that they could keep the commandment of sinful men the abomination of desolation making the word of God without effect.

Paul under the inspiration as true prophet sent with the word declare that by which they all hearsy paul worshipped the unseen God of the fathers .Unlkike them they wporshiped te legion as if it was one. therfore deying the faith as it is writen


Acts 24: 13-14 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets.

, Believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets.(sola scriptura) the reforming authroity in any generation or time period . . . it restores the government of God. The Father and Son as one God. Not a legion of fathers sinful mankind .

Because Sinful Men are enjoying their Sins and do everything in their Power to keep them, they Corrupt the Word of Elohim/God to their interpretation.

A member that posted in "The New World Order" thread provided a good simplification on the Two Paths:

The New World Order
 
Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

It certainly does. Serving Other Gods is Sin. Sin is the Transgression of the Law. Sin is of the Devil/Satan. Therefore, a person that Serves Other Gods is a Satanist.
The Bible doesn't ever make that logical argument. Also...

Gluttony is sin, sin is of the devil. Therefore a glutton is a Satanist.
 
Because Sinful Men are enjoying their Sins and do everything in their Power to keep them, they Corrupt the Word of Elohim/God to their interpretation.

A member that posted in "The New World Order" thread provided a good simplification on the Two Paths:

The New World Order

Then its the generation of Jesus the eternal seed beginning with Abel the generation of faith, the unseen eternal. Not the evil generation of men after mankind seen Adam . Two generations
 
The Bible doesn't ever make that logical argument. Also...

Gluttony is sin, sin is of the devil. Therefore a glutton is a Satanist.

@Hekuran, Are you saying that Serving Other Gods is not Satanism?

Is Gluttony the Transgression of the Law? If yes, can you provide Scripture. Sin is Transgression of the Law.

Are you talking about Seven Deadly Sins?
 
Then its the generation of Jesus the eternal seed beginning with Abel the generation of faith, the unseen eternal. Not the evil generation of men after mankind seen Adam . Two generations

Are you saying that Cain is the Serpent/Satan/Devil Seed? Is this the Two-seedline Doctrine you are talking about?
 
@Hekuran, Are you saying that Serving Other Gods is not Satanism?

Is Gluttony the Transgression of the Law? If yes, can you provide Scripture. Sin is Transgression of the Law.

Are you talking about Seven Deadly Sins?
Where in scripture does God tell us idolatry, worshiping other gods, is Satanism?


Yes, it is a violation of God's law,commandments, and that is sin.
But where is it said to be Satanism? In scripture.

By that yardstick, worshipping other gods is Satanism, are Mormons Satanists? Jehovah Witness?

Their worship of God of the Bible isn't orthodox nor what some would call typical of traditional Christianity.
 
The term Satanist has been around a few hundred years used to describe whatever religious group of people which the prevailing religious people disliked. Well, more like despised. It was invariably used by the Roman Catholic Church to describe Protestants, who in turn described the Pope as either an or the Antichrist.

By definition, Satanism describes some one who actively believes in Satan, but also exemplifies the epitome of evil. A number of Christian worship practices have been borrowed and suitably modified to conduct a Black Mass. By definition, the word sin means to fall short of the mark. It has become an adverb to summarize all failings into a single word.

A question for the Original Poster using your logic: When giving your testimony, do you describe yourself as a Satanist saved by grace? Does that mean that you are still a Satanist in the same manner that Christians are still sinners, only saved by the grace of God? Cheers.
 
Isaiah 7:15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.

You should be interested in the Antichrist, otherwise you are not a Real Follower of Christ. Throughout the Scriptures/Bible from Genesis to Revelation the teaching is the difference between Good and Evil. Real Followers of Christ having seen the film, The Seventh Day, would know what is the point.


Back tracking a bit -- why would a Real follower of Christ be that interested in the Antichrist. And the Real followers of Christ should be watching the film The Seventh Day.

The Antichrist as a real person will be presenting himself mid-way through the 7 year tribulation period. He will make life miserable for those who won't follow Him.

In the meantime there have been many teachers / preachers who do Not teach Christ and Him crucified, buried and resurrected bodily. They teach a works-based attempt at getting to heaven.
 
Are you saying that Cain is the Serpent/Satan/Devil Seed? Is this the Two-seedline Doctrine you are talking about?

Yes two seeds, (1) the seed of corruption which occurred when the glory of God departed leading to death by the father of all lies. And (2) the incorruptible seed, Christ, The Father of truth. Leading to born again life as sons of God which we are.

Wheat and darnel (tares) planted together

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed( incorruptible) and her seed;( corrupted) it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
 
@Garee -- that which you are talking about -- the Two-seed Doctrine -- is found in the Gnostic Gospels particularly the Gospel of Philip. Iranaeous -- an early church father rejected it as heresy.

It's Also held by some adherants of the white supremacists theology known as Christian Identity -- and that the Jews are the off-spring of the serpant.

This is info from Serpent Seed -- the article was stating about Iranaeous as an early church father.

This doctrine has been more recently supported by Daniel Parker, William Branham and Arnold Murray.

Mr Parker is an early American leader of the Primitive Baptists Church -- as an elder, he led a group that separated From that group and formed the 'Two-Seed in the Spirit Predestinarion Baptists."

Some really Strange beliefs around under the guise of being Baptists. Those systems give Baptists a really bad name. Real Baptists have nothing to do with the Gnostic Gospels. Gnostic means false. That's where False doctrine would be coming from.

The True word of God tells us that Eve only mated with Adam -- the serpant never mated with her. God put Adam and Eve together.
 
@Garee -- that which you are talking about -- the Two-seed Doctrine -- is found in the Gnostic Gospels particularly the Gospel of Philip. Iranaeous -- an early church father rejected it as heresy.

It's Also held by some adherants of the white supremacists theology known as Christian Identity -- and that the Jews are the off-spring of the serpant.

This is info from Serpent Seed -- the article was stating about Iranaeous as an early church father.

This doctrine has been more recently supported by Daniel Parker, William Branham and Arnold Murray.

Mr Parker is an early American leader of the Primitive Baptists Church -- as an elder, he led a group that separated From that group and formed the 'Two-Seed in the Spirit Predestinarion Baptists."

Some really Strange beliefs around under the guise of being Baptists. Those systems give Baptists a really bad name. Real Baptists have nothing to do with the Gnostic Gospels. Gnostic means false. That's where False doctrine would be coming from.

The True word of God tells us that Eve only mated with Adam -- the serpant never mated with her. God put Adam and Eve together.

Two-seed Doctrine seems to have more than one way to interpret.

Yes the false Lucifer the spirit of error having no DNA or rudiments of this world who was assigned to protect the glory of God's glorious new creation . Satan usurped that glory by putting his lies on the lips of the most beautiful creation described by precious jewels and gold saying; you will surely will not die look at my beatify and live forever. Our father cut off the creature feet. When God's glory departed Lucifer false light became the god of this world. . he is attributed with power of the lust of the eye and lust of the flesh the builder of false pride .Lying spirits cannot procreate without flesh and blood

We simply do not wrestles against flesh and blood .

Interestingly God whose name is Jealous. He is revealed as not be served by human hands ( corrupted )in any way shape or form He is the God who has no needs from the clay but satisfices all .

To show how he will win his glory back in the new heaven and earth .He created a ceremonial law using a unclean animal ( Ass) to represent the unredeemed mankind . And a clean animal (lamb ) to represent the power of redemption .

Demonstrating he used a false prophet Balaam to show the power of rebuke stopping the madness of that false prophet . A similar parable to the garden but opposite retuning the glory to its rightful Faithful Creator
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LOL Supernatural pay back.. by a redeemed she ass used as a true apostle. (Sent with words of another one) It would seem he does have a sense of humor in order to prove he is not served by human hands as a will .

Exodus 13:13 And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.


Numbers 22:28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

Three denoting the end of a matter.
 
@Garee -- just found another article "The Two Seedline Teaching Explained." -- it is a theory that some people have developed through the concept of Scripture having 'deeper' meanings or hidden meanings. And only the more 'discerning' believers will find and understand those meanings within Scripture. So 'they' are basically rewriting Scripture to 'teach' that which isn't really There.

In God's Word , we Do find that Lucifer was created as the most beautiful angel in heaven. He was God's right-hand-man so to speak. But Lucifer wasn't content with that , he wanted to Be God.
Some of that is found in Ezekiel 28:12 - 15 -- Lucifer and 1/3 of the rest of the angels were kicked out of heaven because of their rebelliousness. Thus -- the serpent in the garden of Eden / satan. And the demonic part of the spirit world.
Satan is the world's greatest deceiver , but he did not mate with Eve. Cain was the second son we've been given a name of -- he murdered his brother Abel. Seth, their third son named in Scripture was born later on.

Sounds like you need to get back to God's Word -- leave the Gnostic Gospels alone.

There's just enough of a hint of the truth to make the errors believable.

God had told Adam not to touch the fruit of that tree in the garden. God told Eve that if they even looked at it -- they would surely die because she and Adam were meant to live forever in that original perfect environment.

But satan put doubt in Eve's mind. Did God Really mean what he said? If she Did eat of that fruit of the tree of the knowledge of both good and evil , she / they/ would have all the knowledge like God did. That was very appealing to her.
So she ate some first and then gave Adam some -- they ate together and immediately their eyes were 'open' and they saw their nakedness -- their innocence was Gone. They immediately hid from God -- tried to cover up the result of their sin with fig leaves.

To this day -- we Still question -- does God REALLY mean what He says. Part of the results have been eventually dying. Back Then, they lived almost 1000 yrs. 960 and 930 , etc. so they didn't die Immediately. And God Also provided the first shedding of blood for their sinfulness -- God provided a covering of Skins. An animal had to be killed -- the blood being shed -- to 'cover' their sins. Apparently people were meant to be naked / bare with each other and God. Innocent.

However, we now wear clothes to cover our 'nakedness' or we're supposed to. Men and women are Supposed to cover their 'private' parts.

You can read all this yourself in Genesis.

And God Is a jealous God -- He's the creator of All, everything, man, Everything. So -- when we want to worship something -- worship Him. Don't worship any other 'god' that mankind has made up. Or any 'thing's that we have. A nice car, boat, house, job, etc.

God doesn't need to win Back Anything. He's never Lost anything. He has given His son to save us from having to spent eternity in hell. The death, burial and bodily resurrection from the dead. That proved that Jesus Christ was indeed the Son of God rather than just another religious teacher of that day.

We / mankind/ are the one's who 'messed up'.

So, yes, God's Word Is the truth.
 
just found another article "The Two Seedline Teaching Explained." -- it is a theory that some people have developed through the concept of Scripture having 'deeper' meanings or hidden meanings. And only the more 'discerning' believers will find and understand those meanings within Scripture. So 'they' are basically rewriting Scripture to 'teach' that which isn't really There.

In God's Word , we Do find that Lucifer was created as the most beautiful angel in heaven. He was God's right-hand-man so to speak. But Lucifer wasn't content with that , he wanted to Be God.

I would offer. Rather than re-writing it, rightly divide. We can see that I believe in the first parable using seeds to distinguish truth from lies . A picture of the bride of Christ, protected by the work of Christ her husband . The father striking the Son bruising his heel (Isaiah 53) rescuing his bride from eternal damnation through a labor of His love. .

Genisesi 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The Two Seedline teaching in regard to the seed Christ. The one spiritual unseen seed not the fleshly seed of mankind. It is a theme or a doctrine of God throughout the bible. . do not be unevenly yoked , the cause of the flood. Believers called sons of God procreating with unbelievers called daughters of men. .
Two kinds of creations . God creates after one kind like mankind, not a multitude of kinds .In that way what God calls one, Lucifer calls a legion. no separation no law

Genesis 6: 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil (faithless) continually. .

Makes a interesting study to go along with the historical truth not destroying the simplicity of the gospel . In that way without parables Christ spoke not hiding the gospel meaning from natural unconverted man (no faith) Parables unlock the mysteries of faith by giving us His understanding and rest .

One thing I have been looking at lately is why is Lucifer called a creation ? God cannot create evil he can cause an evil by lifting his protective hand . Evil comes from the spirits of pride. the father of lies. In that way Lucifer rather than protecting pride from entering mankind the spirit of lies took the glory of God's creation upon its own. The glory of the Spirit of truth departed . The god of this world still deceiving mankind obey me and I will give you all the kingdoms of the world and the glory . ( as if the glory was not corrupted and we do not see each others nakedness' .. The lie. "You shall surely not die"


Mathew 4: 8-9 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
 
@Garee -- God Did create Everything. The heavens, the earth, the angelic world and us / human beings. Lucifer was an angel so he is a creation of God. He fell prey to the sin of Pride and wanting to be Like God. Dissatisfaction for how God created him.

How Could Lucifer 'protect' pride from entering mankind.? Some of your comments don't make a lot of sense.

What denominational background are you from?
 
Genisesi 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The Two Seedline teaching in regard to the seed Christ. The one spiritual unseen seed not the fleshly seed of mankind.

Except, who is God talking to here? Not the woman. Not Christ.

Gen 3:14; So the LORD God said to the serpent: "Because you have done this, You are cursed more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you shall go, And you shall eat dust All the days of your life.
Gen 3:15; And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."

The enmity is between the offspring of man (humans) and the offspring of Satan. (possibly demons, or fallen angels) ..some even say this pertains to the Giants. (Nephilim).
 
Except, who is God talking to here? Not the woman. Not Christ.

Gen 3:14; So the LORD God said to the serpent: "Because you have done this, You are cursed more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you shall go, And you shall eat dust All the days of your life.
Gen 3:15; And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."

The enmity is between the offspring of man (humans) and the offspring of Satan. (possibly demons, or fallen angels) ..some even say this pertains to the Giants. (Nephilim).

I would offer it’s the first parable that presents the gospel the hidden understanding (Christ and the bride)

The enmity Satan opposes the Spirit of Christ the seed that crushes his head displaying the power of the father who strikes the suffering Son protecting her . . . . . bruising his heel.

Isaiah 53 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

Or like Philippians 2:12 it is God working in the Son of man to both reveal the will of the father and empower him to perform his good pleasure .(the gospel


Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

The Giants. (Nephilim) are simply sons of God born again believers as the renown .Giants because of the powerful faith that works in them to both will and perform the good pleasure of God .The word Nephilim) is used 9 times all but one to support it is believers cohabitating with those of no faith (daughter of me n)

Simply a warning not to be unevenly yoked with daughters of men . . un-believers putting the seed Christ in jeopardy
 
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