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Should a Christian accept the NWT as a version of the Bible?

bdavidc

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While reading some posts on message boards, I notice the NWT being used as proof texts. Beware of this as it is from false teachers (Matthew 7:15).

A Christian should not believe the New World Translation (NWT) because it reflects theological bias rather than accurate biblical translation. Produced by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah’s Witnesses), the NWT incorporates doctrinal alterations that align with Jehovah’s Witness theology rather than the original meaning of Scripture. Unlike reputable translations that rely on the original Hebrew and Greek texts, the NWT inserts sectarian interpretations that misrepresent key Christian doctrines.

One of the most significant issues with the NWT is its deliberate alterations to support Jehovah’s Witness doctrine. For example, in John 1:1, most reputable translations state, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” However, the NWT changes this to “the Word was a god,” diminishing Christ’s deity and aligning with the Jehovah’s Witness belief that Jesus is a lesser god, not fully divine. Similarly, in Colossians 1:16-17, where most translations affirm that Christ created “all things,” the NWT inserts the word “other” (“because by means of him all other things were created”), implying that Christ Himself was created. This contradicts the biblical doctrine of His eternal existence.

Additionally, the NWT contains numerous mistranslations that attempt to deny the Trinity. The deity of Christ, the personhood of the Holy Spirit, and the nature of God are downplayed. For instance, in Hebrews 1:6, the word “worship” is changed to “obeisance” when referring to Jesus, avoiding the implication that He should be worshiped as God. Such changes reflect a theological agenda rather than a commitment to faithful translation.

Another major concern is that the translation committee responsible for the NWT lacked recognized credentials in biblical languages. Unlike major Bible translations such as the ESV, NASB, KJV, and NIV, which rely on teams of scholars proficient in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, the NWT was produced by individuals without formal training in biblical languages. This lack of scholarly expertise has led many Greek and Hebrew scholars to reject the NWT as inaccurate and biased. Dr. Bruce Metzger, a world-renowned biblical scholar, described the NWT’s handling of the Greek as “a distortion, rather than a translation.”

Furthermore, the Jehovah’s Witness organization has a history of changing its doctrines, including making failed prophecies and revising its teachings over time. Since the NWT is published by an organization known for doctrinal shifts, it is not reliability as a stable and trustworthy translation.

For these reasons, a Christian should not trust the New World Translation. It intentionally alters key scriptures to fit Jehovah’s Witnesses’ beliefs, mistranslates passages concerning Christ’s deity and the Trinity, lacks scholarly credibility in biblical languages, and is widely rejected by experts as an inaccurate translation. To ensure a faithful rendering of Scripture, Christians should rely on well-respected translations such as the ESV, NASB, KJV, or NKJV, which are produced by expert scholars without denominational bias.
 
Actually, one should just read the Greek in which it written.

But, until one learns, there's always a good interlinear. And this one allows you to compare:

When dealing with a JW, though, always demand they use their own "Kingdom Interlinear."
Watching their faces when they read it is priceless.
the-kingdom-interlinear-translation-of-the-greek.jpg


Here's the online version:
 
The Children of God are the Living Bible. Just as Jesus was. Jesus is the Word on their Creation. And The Word can not create anything else than it is.
 
Actually, one should just read the Greek in which it written.

But, until one learns, there's always a good interlinear. And this one allows you to compare:

When dealing with a JW, though, always demand they use their own "Kingdom Interlinear."
Watching their faces when they read it is priceless.
the-kingdom-interlinear-translation-of-the-greek.jpg


Here's the online version:
I wish to agree on the Greek-English NT Interlinear recommendation as it has the literal translation by Alfred Marshall. His literal English translation is my favorite on my passages. It must be considered excellent, from the number of Interlinear Bibles that use Alfred Marshall. From Bible-Researcher -

Marshall, 1958. Alfred Marshall, The Interlinear Greek-English New Testament: the Nestle Greek Text with a literal English Translation. London: Samuel Bagster and Sons, 1958.

Marshall's interlinear text is the 21st edition of Nestle-Aland. No textual variants are given. This text has been reprinted with several different English translations in parallel columns, including KJV, RSV, NASB, NIV, NIV & NASB, NRSV, and NIV & NRSV. Most recently reprinted in The Interlinear NASB-NIV Parallel New Testament in Greek and English (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1995).

The www.archive.org web site has most of those Interlinear NTs available to read for free.
 
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From the OP:
A Christian should not believe the New World Translation (NWT)
The Jehovah’s Witness bible has always replaced the Holy Ghost with “the helper” because they do not believe the Holy Ghost is a person. They believe the Holy Ghost is a wind, a force, or something that just sort of ‘helps’ God.

To call us “slaves of Jesus Christ,” as the Jehovah Witness Version does, is theologically incorrect. A slave is captured and does not go of his own free will, nor does he work of his own free will (Calvinism?). Jesus said, “Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free (John 8:32, 36). Even a sinner is a “servant of sin” (John 8:34), not a slave of sin. The sinner has the free will to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ when the Holy Ghost calls.

In occult and New Age circles, they slanderously call Christians “slaves.” The San Antonio Express News reported of this kind of “anti-Christian” graffiti written on an altar where satanic sacrifices took place. The move of new versions toward words that are slanderous (i.e., calling Christians “slaves”) is not a move in the right direction.]

Seventeen omitted verses do not raise an eyebrow. (Matt. 17:21; 18:11; 23:14; Mark 7:16; 9:44, 46; 11:26; 15:28; Luke 17:36; 23:17; John 5:4; Acts 8:37; 24:7; 28:29; Romans 16:24,

Even the Comforter himself is omitted and replaced by the Jehovah Witness term, the Helper (John 14:16).

The NWT was concocted by 5 in-house JW's.

Actually, one should just read the Greek in which it written.
...we don't find that advice in any bible.

But, until one learns, there's always a good interlinear.
...said the spider to the fly, while weaving a web at the altar of secular humanism.

Marshall's interlinear text is the 21st edition of Nestle-Aland.
There are numerous errors in the Greek texts of Nestle/Aland and the United Bible Society, which are the editions underlying new versions. Further, as the preface to the Nestle’s Greek text admits: “This is not the traditional Greek text” (emphasis mine). Embarrassed scholars have now thrown out that Nestle’s twenty-first edition interlinear.

Caveat emptor.
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...we don't find that advice in any bible.
Sure you do.

And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.​
- Colossians 4:16 KJV

What do you think these epistles were written in? Ebonics?

..said the spider to the fly, while weaving a web at the altar of secular humanism.
A comment that merely proves you've no clue.

There are numerous errors in the Greek texts of Nestle/Aland and the United Bible Society, which are the editions underlying new versions.
Name one.

Embarrassed scholars have now thrown out that Nestle’s twenty-first edition interlinear.
Name one. There are no "embarrassed scholars" who have thrown out the edition. This is you making up stuff again. Or else, name one.

Nestle’s twenty-first edition interlinear.
Nestle never published an interlinear. He edited a GREEK text published by the Württemberg Bible Society.



Further, as the preface to the Nestle’s Greek text admits: “This is not the traditional Greek text” (emphasis mine).
Of course it's not the "traditional Greek text." It has a critical apparatus. Nor is it a mere copy of the woefully inadequate Textus Receptus cobbled together by Erasmus as an appendix to his other work.

However, I provide a LINK to the preface of the first, second, and third editions, where your supposed admission is not to be found.

Care to provide your source, or are you just making stuff up again?

Rhema



Caveat emptor.
(You can say that again....)
 
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...we don't find that advice in any bible.
What do you think these epistles were written in? Ebonics?
Ah, you again intentionally mischaracterize the real issue of authority with your non sequitur.

Actually, one should just read the Greek in which it written.
Rather, "one should just read the" English "in which it is written."

God is finished with 'Greek, Hebrew' etc. God's pattern has always been the same; God has always provided the COMMON man with the COMMON Bible in the COMMON language of the day to do one thing: EVANGELIZE the world. God has magnified his word above all his name (Psalm 138:2).

There are two types of bibles - God's, and Satan's. By now you should understand that ALL of God’s vernacular Bibles are the word of God -- because they all come from the same text-type; whereas Satan’s corrupt minority text bibles die when their copyright holders die, as you were admonished in detail here regarding your use of the corrupt Westcott-Hort text type - spiritualists who called themselves heretics.

Westcott and Hort, changed the traditional Greek text in well over eight thousand places using the Vaticanus manuscript and other corrupt texts. In 1881, this 1% minority text type supplanted the Majority Text with its almost two millennia standing.

Caveat emptor.

[re: errors in Nestle/Aland/USB Greek] Name one.
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There are no "embarrassed scholars" who have thrown out the edition. This is you making up stuff again. Or else, name one.
This convo was actually looking promising for a change - until you again sabotaged yourself with your MO of casting burdens on others (aka gaslighting). Thus again, you lose.

Nestle never published an interlinear.
I never said he did. Yet another non sequitur (aka gaslighting).

Care to provide your source, or are you just making stuff up again?
And yet again, there's that satanic MO of yours - falsely accusing the brethren (aka gaslighting). Shame on you. You were defeated in our previous similar discussion by the voluminous documentation - we've all read it. Let that sink in before you launch your next offensive and shipwreck what little remaining credibility you may fancy you have remaining.

To bring this back to the OP, the NWT was written using the same corrupt Westcott-Hort text and subsequently "edited" by unsaved in-house wannabe 'scholars' whose highest opinion is of themselves. Sounds familiar.

Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one. (Job 14:4).

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Sure you do.

And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.​
- Colossians 4:16 KJV

What do you think these epistles were written in? Ebonics?


A comment that merely proves you've no clue.


Name one.


Name one. There are no "embarrassed scholars" who have thrown out the edition. This is you making up stuff again. Or else, name one.


Nestle never published an interlinear. He edited a GREEK text published by the Württemberg Bible Society.




Of course it's not the "traditional Greek text." It has a critical apparatus. Nor is it a mere copy of the woefully inadequate Textus Receptus cobbled together by Erasmus as an appendix to his other work.

However, I provide a LINK to the preface of the first, second, and third editions, where your supposed admission is not to be found.

Care to provide your source, or are you just making stuff up again?

Rhema




(You can say that again....)
What is easy to find in any bible is the fact that Satan is the ruler of the world and has been for 6,000 years since he tempted eve.
 
Ah, you again intentionally mischaracterize the real issue of authority with your non sequitur.
Ah, you again feign incomprehension in order to dodge the real issue of scriptural accuracy.

Rather, "one should just read the" English "in which it is written."
What buffoonery. True buffoonery. The New Testament texts were not written in English.

God is finished with 'Greek, Hebrew' etc.
So he told you this, did he? This has crossed the edge of lunacy. What texts did the KJV use to "write" the Bible in English? Yep. Greek and Hebrew. What manuscripts do you think all the recent translations use to "write" their English Bibles?

Just admit you're KJV only, and all will be understood.

God has always provided the COMMON man with the COMMON Bible in the COMMON language of the day
So there are no Christians in Greece that speak Greek? Imagine their surprise. Guess they're SOL with you then. What lunacy it would be to take Greek manuscripts, translate them into English and then translate them back into Greek for those who live in Greece.

While there has always been shifts in language over time, there's not that much difference between NT Greek and modern Greek. The Greek Orthodox Church knows this, and has maintained the purity of scripture against corrupt translations, such as the NIV, as well as obsolete translations, such as the KJV. NOBODY speaks KJV English anymore, forsooth?


Satan’s corrupt minority text bibles die when their copyright holders die,
Well then, since there IS no copyright on the KJV, and since all those who held any copyright on the KJV have died, then it must be as you conclude, the KJV must have been a corruption of Satan, since it was based only upon a minority of six manuscripts (out of thousands known today).

Makes sense.

Westcott and Hort, changed the traditional Greek text in well over eight thousand places using the Vaticanus manuscript and other corrupt texts.
When in truth, Erasmus published a Greek text with well over eight thousand mistakes, including his reconstruction of Revelation, of which he had only fragments.

Anyone seeking the truth can easily find out about the history of New Testament manuscripts, including that of the Sinaiticus as well as the Vaticanus, and the Codex Bezae, et. al.


In 1881, this 1% minority text type supplanted the Majority Text with its almost two millennia standing.

Caveat emptor.
Indeed, you may wish to become acquainted with the Vulgate. And the Majority text is only from the years circa 1,110 AD, so not even one millennia. The Greek Orthodox Church (older than yours or the Roman's) holds to the primacy of the Septuagint.


But people, as is wont with people, make up their own "new theology" fantasies and do publish corrupt translations. Just like the NWT and KJV people did (there having been nothing wrong with the Geneva Bible at the time). But if one only speaks English, one is SOL dependent upon what translators they select. I rejected being so dependent, and learned the language for myself. Find a good Greek Orthodox church near you and you'll typically find free lessons. You don't have to accept their theological interpretations, but you're still far ahead of the game when reading the NT in the language in which GOD had it written.

casting burdens on others (aka gaslighting). Thus again, you lose.
Truly, how childish can you be? You make two audacious claims and can't back them up. So you blame your failures on others?

You were defeated in our previous similar discussion by the voluminous documentation - we've all read it
I truly hadn't understood the level of delusion under which you live. You've "all read" idiotic conspiratorial fantasies that no one having even a college level of education in science would accept.

To bring this back to the OP, the NWT was written using the same corrupt Westcott-Hort text
No one, being able to read the Westcott-Hort compilation would ever think it could produce the NWT. This is easily proven when one compares the NWT to the JW's own Kingdom Interlinear translation of the WH Greek. They're compeltely different.

You show no expertise in either Greek or the history of the NT manuscripts, so you should quit while you're ahead.

(But I know you won't.)
Rhema
 
What is easy to find in any bible is the fact that Satan is the ruler of the world and has been for 6,000 years since he tempted eve.
There is no scripture whatsoever that says Satan is the ruler of the world.

IF YOU READ WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN.

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:​
(Genesis 3:14 KJV)

So you would have your nearly omipotent Satan crawling around on his belly, eating dust.

Right.

Rhema
 
"We know that those who are born of God do not sin, but the one who was born of God protects them, and the evil one does not touch them. We know that we are God’s children and that the whole world lies under the power of the evil one." (1Jn 5:18-19 NRSVue)

You are either a child of God, or you are in that world over which Satan has the power.

"And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kindly to everyone, an apt teacher, patient, correcting opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant that they will repent and come to know the truth and that they may escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will." (2Ti 2:24-26 NRSVue)

Again, if you are not one of God's elect to whom the sovereign God gives repentance, you remain captive to Satan to do his will.
 
Rather, "one should just read the" English "in which it is written." - i.e. the inspired words of God in the COMMON language of the day and not some foregone foreign manuscript of times past that wannabee 'scholars' would resurrect in an attempt to justify their unwanted and undiscerning perspective.

Again, if you are not one of God's elect to whom the sovereign God gives repentance, you remain captive to Satan to do his will.
Indeed!

So you would have your nearly omipotent Satan crawling around on his belly, eating dust.
"nearly omipotent [sic]"? ala 'almost preg'? LOL

Rather, we note the impotent spew in this thread while Satan is having your lunch: ...because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour (1 Peter 5:8). Satan is...the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience (1 Cor. 2:2-4). Selah.

Dylan569 said: You are either a child of God, or you are in that world over which Satan has the power.
The minute someone demonstrates courage and tells the truth, he has moved within the spheres of influence to a point where his inner world changes and the person begins to have an increase of his personal power and integrity. While the negative feelings have not all disappeared, the person has greater energy to handle nasty situations. He is no longer living in the world of victimhood. However, when someone will not acknowledge or tell the truth, he lives within her own creation of lack and limitation. Without truth, unconditional love is not possible, as people are ruled by their own selfishness, in which other people are merely objects to satisfy their needs and wants. They're an energy parasite, sucking at others in an attempt to get their needs met.

He is, what he repeatedly does.

Again, if you are not one of God's elect to whom the sovereign God gives repentance, you remain captive to Satan to do his will.
Indeed!

For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. (1 Cor. 11:19).

...including that of the Sinaiticus as well as the Vaticanus, and the Codex Bezae, et. al.
Like S & V, Westcott & Hort are as dead as their corrupt inventions and those who promote them.

You show no expertise in either Greek or the history of the NT manuscripts...
Thank you! Small wonder you are so easily bothered.

Meanwhile, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. (Luke 16:15).

The thesis of the OP has been tried and found worthy.

Caveat emptor.
 
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There is no scripture whatsoever that says Satan is the ruler of the world.

IF YOU READ WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN.

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:​
(Genesis 3:14 KJV)

So you would have your nearly omipotent Satan crawling around on his belly, eating dust.

Right.

Rhema
Your friend Satan is far from impotent and still rules the world.
You need to learn to read the BIble.
 
There is no scripture whatsoever that says Satan is the ruler of the world.

IF YOU READ WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN.

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:​
(Genesis 3:14 KJV)

So you would have your nearly omipotent Satan crawling around on his belly, eating dust.

Right.

Rhema

James 1:5​

5; If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
 
you are in that world over which Satan has the power.
Thank you for denying Christ before men? Or has the definition of ALL been changed and no one sent me the memo?

And Jesus came and said to them, "ALL authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.​
- Matthew 28:18 NRSV

I am just astounded at how many believers on this forum reject the very words of Christ.

Rhema
 
Your friend Satan is far from impotent and still rules the world.
You need to learn to read the BIble.
You mean like this verse which you vociferously and radically REJECT ???

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.​
- Matthew 28:18 KJV

Thank you for denying Christ before men, I guess.

Rhema
 
the whole world lies under the power of the evil one." (1Jn 5:18-19 NRSVue)
Your translation has lied to you -

And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness (G4190).​
- 1 John 5:19 KJV

LINK to the Liddell Scott Lexicon for G4190 -
A. oppressed by toils,

Indeed the whole world lies oppressed by toils. (Because you people can't get your act together.)

But if you're content to embrace a translation that misrepresents what was written, according to your faith so be it.

Rhema
 
I am just astounded at how many believers on this forum reject the very words of Christ.
But if you're content to embrace a translation that misrepresents what was written, according to your faith so be it.
Counterfeit utterance/rhema is everywhere.

That poster requires not a reply, but repentance and our prayers (if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth - 2 Tim. 2:25).

This is our vanguard, lest we likewise fall into such idolatry:

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen. 1 John 5:18-21
 
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Counterfeit utterance/rhema is everywhere.
Pot and Kettle, dude. But at least I am not denying the very words of Christ before all men.

That poster requires not a reply, but repentance and our prayers (if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth - 2 Tim. 2:25).
So why don't you acknowledge the truth of the very words of Christ? I do. I acknowledge the absolute truth of the following words of Jesus.

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power/authority is given unto me in heaven and in earth.​
- Matthew 28:18 KJV

I do NOT repent from my faith in the very words of Jesus that ALL power/authority was given to him in heaven and earth at the resurrection of Christ.

But the Lord will deal directly with those who claim to be His, but deny this before men.

This is our vanguard, lest we likewise fall into such idolatry:
Let it be known by all, now, that bNf considers the words of Jesus to be idolatry.

the whole world lieth in wickedness.
Indeed, including the wickedness that overtly denies the very words of Christ.

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
- 1 John 3:8 KJV

Denying the words of Christ is committing sin, and by their words we know they are of the devil, but those empowered by Christ shall undo the works of the devil. How?

We uncover the darkness of denial when we teach and baptize:

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:​
- Matthew 28:18-19 KJV

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.​
- Acts 1:8 KJV

I stand as witness to those who deny the following.

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.​
- Matthew 28:18 KJV

Ex Cathedra,
Rhema
 
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Whew! Nuthin' but tons of false accusations and the incessant gaslighting.

Jesus talks about the "doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate" (Rev. 2:15). The ESV and other new versions take out the phrase, "which thing I hate." Nico means 'conquer,' and laity (as defined by Webster's Dictionary) means 'the people,' as distinguished from the clergy. Jesus hates the doctrine which replaces the New Testament priesthood of all believers with a class of clergy or a class of professional scholars who attempt to "conquer" the common "people" with their credentials. Taking "which thing I hate" out of the Bible is just another move back to Rome.

Getting back to the OP,
A Christian should not believe the New World Translation (NWT)...
Of the five men who comprised the NWT translation committee (circa 1950) - Nathan Knorr, Fred Franz, Albert Schroeder, George Gangas, and Milton Henschel - Franz is the only one who had any knowledge at all of the biblical languages. The men said they were "anointed." Sound familiar?

They used the corrupt text of heretics Westcott and Hort, the works of a couple of Jesuit 'scholars,' and the corrupt Latin Vulgate, among other corruptions, for their NWT©. Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania (WTBTSPA) owns the copyright to their intellectual property, the New World Translation.

Caveat emptor.
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