Should Christian Women Wear Bikinis?

[Fragrant Grace]

Having little girls prance around showing their stuff in close proximity to these young boys is nasty. We have to protect not only our daughters, but our sons! We must teach our girls about modesty.

Yes I agree @Ophel

My oldest two daughters aged 11 and 12, although sensible have tender pliable hearts so easily swayed by the world.

It is Biblically correct for women to be modest in their apparel.....and to allow our children to flaunt their bodies is setting them on the wrong path.

No matter what anyone says a bikini is not modest

Present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy acceptable unto God
Romans 12:1

 

[love_yeshua]

Oh yes, I would have the right if it were my son being subjected to this, because it would be my pool, just as it was this woman's property and pool!

Having little girls prance around showing their stuff in close proximity to these young boys is nasty. We have to protect not only our daughters, but our sons! We must teach our girls about modesty.

Oh well you didn't mention it was her pool. If it's your pool then of course you can tell the kid what to wear. I thought it was a public pool.

 

[Ophel]

Oh well you didn't mention it was her pool. If it's your pool then of course you can tell the kid what to wear. I thought it was a public pool.

Read it again. I did say this woman's son was in HIS pool. I don't think a 13-year-old owns property with pools.

 

[Fenn]

If you want to hear vulgar language, all you have to do is go to school. The movies are actually less vulgar than language you will hear everyday in high school and college!

I hear this type of argument all the time.
Yes, out in the world you will hear profanity, see immodest women, immoral behavior, and many other things that the Bible says to "flee" from. There is a difference between hearing language out in the world and bringing a movie into your home with the same language you don't approve of. When you bring the movie into your home you are condoning its language. When you bring something into your home, then your children interpret this as acceptable. That is not the message I want to send.

2 Timothy 2:22
Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.


The Bible is very clear. We should flee. Not avoid as best we can, not get close without crossing the line. Flee.

 

[Ophel]

Fenn---it is kind of hard for our young kids to flee evil doings and speech that surrounds them in their school. My young grandson is trapped in a den of iniquity, day after day, with no one on his side to relieve him. He is only knows the Lord nominally, but has a very acute moral sense, adn his school is destroying his young, impressionable mind. I weep at what our young, innocent kids are exposed to in this Sodom and Gomorrah generation.

 

[love_yeshua]

I hear this type of argument all the time.
Yes, out in the world you will hear profanity, see immodest women, immoral behavior, and many other things that the Bible says to "flee" from. There is a difference between hearing language out in the world and bringing a movie into your home with the same language you don't approve of. When you bring the movie into your home you are condoning its language. When you bring something into your home, then your children interpret this as acceptable. That is not the message I want to send.

2 Timothy 2:22
Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.


The Bible is very clear. We should flee. Not avoid as best we can, not get close without crossing the line. Flee.

That's all nice, but who said I was arguing with you? lol

 

[gglearner]

Now a days fashion is so much influence on everyone, showing body is fashion and explaining and bringing up kids according to bible is difficult. But I am teaching my daughter how to live according to the biblical way no matter what anyone think it is out fashion. It is hard to live in this society or world, it influences a lot but I pray God my family should not be trapped into it.
All things are possible through God and we trust him completely he will help me and my family to live according to his word.

 

[farout]

If you want to hear vulgar language, all you have to do is go to school. The movies are actually less vulgar than language you will hear everyday in high school and college!

Yes. my wife more than I, have sub-taught and there is very little respect for themselves or the administration, and their parents or anyone with authority. The evil one has won a major part of young, and older people's language of disrespect. No longer do men have to watch there language in front of women; that's because many women sware even more often than some men.

I do have one question foe anyone reading this. Why do people refer to a "DRUNKEN SAILOR" I spent a long time in the NAVY and there were more Army and Airforce drunks than us NAVY people. I sure wish people would kill the expression.

I was reading Hebrews 13 oday and there we are warned against having "Hardness of Heart." I think Hebrews is saying believers can get a hard heart, and we need to beek a tenderness about our self, that comes from being in the WORD and having the LOVE of Jesus in our thoughts and actions.

 

[james1523]

By the bible's (1 Cor 11 etc) and early Christianity's definition unless you also wear a head scarf, you are immodest (also see early paintings of Christian women from the first centuries). Our modern day definition of modesty doesn't even come close to the Bible's. So why force a standard on others which you yourselves are unable to keep?

 

[B-A-C]

Our modern day definition of modesty doesn't even come close to the Bible's. So why force a standard on others which you yourselves are unable to keep?

On the other hand, should our (modern society) be setting the standards, or should God be setting them? The Bible warns us from becoming like the world. (Rom 12:2; )
Most women in my church wear scarfs and hats, even though it's out of fashion. When a young woman wears wears a short dress, the elderly ladies of the church offer her a small think blanket to cover her legs.
This sometimes offends them (better them than the whole church) but it usually keeps them from repeating the same thing again.

1 Tim 2:9; Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments,

 

[james1523]

On the other hand, should our (modern society) be setting the standards, or should God be setting them? The Bible warns us from becoming like the world. (Rom 12:2; )
Most women in my church wear scarfs and hats, even though it's out of fashion. When a young woman wears wears a short dress, the elderly ladies of the church offer her a small think blanket to cover her legs.
This sometimes offends them (better them than the whole church) but it usually keeps them from repeating the same thing again.

1 Tim 2:9; Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments,

Yes.. there's two ways to interpret the bible: read it and apply it as it was written (at the time), or apply it to our modern day (apply it to the status quo in our current society). Most Christians including myself follow the latter. So why do we think modesty only applies to not inciting lust? What about avoiding gender confusion:
Wearing jeans, pants, would not be acceptable either I would think. My grandmother never wore such things.Deut 22:5 " “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so [are] abomination unto the LORD thy God.”"

In the eyes of God, a woman dressing like a man (e.g. jeans and t-shirt) could be as bad as wearing skimpy clothing. What makes Deut 22:5 less important than the other verses on not uncovering nakedness?

 

[Ophel]

By the bible's (1 Cor 11 etc) and early Christianity's definition unless you also wear a head scarf, you are immodest (also see early paintings of Christian women from the first centuries). Our modern day definition of modesty doesn't even come close to the Bible's. So why force a standard on others which you yourselves are unable to keep?

Modesty means the same thing no matter what era you are from.

 

[farout]

Yes.. there's two ways to interpret the bible: read it and apply it as it was written (at the time), or apply it to our modern day (apply it to the status quo in our current society). Most Christians including myself follow the latter. So why do we think modesty only applies to not inciting lust? What about avoiding gender confusion:
Wearing jeans, pants, would not be acceptable either I would think. My grandmother never wore such things.Deut 22:5 " “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so [are] abomination unto the LORD thy God.”"

In the eyes of God, a woman dressing like a man (e.g. jeans and t-shirt) could be as bad as wearing skimpy clothing. What makes Deut 22:5 less important than the other verses on not uncovering nakedness?

Modesty; has different meanings to different cultures, even today. Women living in Mangolia most assuredly would not ware a dress. The Biblical instruction to cover a womans head, is in reference to the women who were temple prostitutes or had not let their hair grow back, Head covering for women was not required for believing women who had hair as a natural covering.. It is important to understand the culture of the Bible verse at the time it was written. At times different denominations have taken a verse or so and lifted it out of context and made it a doctrine. When this happens those who believe such a doctrine are almost impossible to even dialogue with about such a doctrine as they have been indoctrinated as to reject true understanding.

One such seriously misunderstood verse is that a woman is to keep silent in church. That was in atime that women did notread or write, and were basically a hard working person belonging to a husband that expected male children, and they bore children for the husband. The life of a woman was nothing like today. A womans marriage was prearranged, like it or not, and a wife was told everything and she obeyed in everything she was told and expected to do. A womans life was hard, and today we might say she was like a slave. Marrying for being in love was not considered important. I am so glad it is not that way for most of us in the US.

 

[farout]

Fenn---it is kind of hard for our young kids to flee evil doings and speech that surrounds them in their school. My young grandson is trapped in a den of iniquity, day after day, with no one on his side to relieve him. He is only knows the Lord nominally, but has a very acute moral sense, adn his school is destroying his young, impressionable mind. I weep at what our young, innocent kids are exposed to in this Sodom and Gomorrah generation.

Home schooling is the answer. I know it's hard. We are talking about a childs life, unless parents take seriously that kids are headed for hell, unless we take to world by the horns and say satan will not take these children, thenpublic school with it's eveloution, the perveted sexual education, and the anti-God teachung, will destroy our children. When a parent becomes a home school teacher it lowers the income, but do we really need a second car, a bigger house, or to eat out, the wide screen tv, or anything that is really a need ? A person does not need much beyond a Freshman in High School level of learning to homeschool. You as teacher will learn as you go.

What is a child worth really ?

 

[Fenn]

Home schooling is the answer. I know it's hard. We are talking about a childs life, unless parents take seriously that kids are headed for hell, unless we take to world by the horns and say satan will not take these children, thenpublic school with it's eveloution, the perveted sexual education, and the anti-God teachung, will destroy our children. When a parent becomes a home school teacher it lowers the income, but do we really need a second car, a bigger house, or to eat out, the wide screen tv, or anything that is really a need ? A person does not need much beyond a Freshman in High School level of learning to homeschool. You as teacher will learn as you go.

What is a child worth really ?

This is very difficult. This is not really a world to raise children in anymore. My wife already stays home to be with the kids as they grow up and we already lose out on that income. We don't have a house, second car, and all of that stuff, but God has blessed us and we have never gone hungry or been close to it.
Regarding home school. That is a different thing. I don't have just one kid, which means teaching different levels and then trying to find social time for them. The kids at church tend to not be any better than those at public school. It is frustrating. Also, my wife says she is not a good teacher. I believe her, some people are not meant to teach. I always ask my wife what it will take for her to be willing to home school. We haven't seen it yet, but my oldest is in 1st grade and advanced learning, so he isn't with most other kids.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

@Fenn @farout

Greetings

The thread is beginning to go off topic and could end up going round in circles!
(Although the points being raised are very interesting)

The homeschool issue could be raised in another thread for discussion

Blessings

 

[Ophel]

Home schooling is the answer. I know it's hard. We are talking about a childs life, unless parents take seriously that kids are headed for hell, unless we take to world by the horns and say satan will not take these children, thenpublic school with it's eveloution, the perveted sexual education, and the anti-God teachung, will destroy our children. When a parent becomes a home school teacher it lowers the income, but do we really need a second car, a bigger house, or to eat out, the wide screen tv, or anything that is really a need ? A person does not need much beyond a Freshman in High School level of learning to homeschool. You as teacher will learn as you go.

What is a child worth really ?

You are correct! In my grandchild's case, his mom and dad don;t give a hang, thinking this is something they can deal with, but they don't. We have a church school, but they cannot afford it. I have been after them to put their kids in, but other things take precedence, and so I am a spectator to all this and I feel my heart jump into my throat more and more... *sigh*

 

[Fenn]

Greetings

The thread is beginning to go off topic and could end up going round in circles!
(Although the points being raised are very interesting)

The homeschool issue could be raised in another thread for discussion

Blessings

Understood and I agree. Sorry about that.

I think it is easy to tangent in this thread.
The original question : " Should Christian women wear bikinis?"

Biblically the answer is no.

 

[SpiritLedEd]

Well I honestly didn't feel comfortably . There was no fire and brimstone moment or fear of hell, just didn't want people looking at me.

I think that as with all moral issues, its for the individual to decide; a good rule-of-thumb - When in doubt, don't!"

SLE

 

[denise04]

the bible says how women should dress i dont feel a woman should dress in his manner to make men lust cover there bodies