So "Repentance" isn't relevant anymore?

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

God makes it possible to remain in the light as long as we want to keep working toward our salvation..."Endure till the end!"

debatable.
I hear what you are saying but this is not a road I believe we are called to tip toe through like a minefield... hoping... desperately hoping we get through.... watching our brothers in arms trip the wire..... will i be next...
incoming....
steady steady... keep concentrating.... what was that...

and get there shattered in nerves, a quivering mess.

No, we are called to liberty.. but use not that liberty as an occasion to the flesh. Keep the faith, love one another.


Bless you ....><>

 

[Pilgrim77]

Just a quick question...what will the above targeted individuals be when they do "turn from" their sin?
Ex-sinners.
Further sin would manifest a repentance that was false.

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John is writing to the church...about two very different kinds of walks, and two very different kinds of men..
Some walk in the darkness, sin, and some walk in the light, God.
The verses intended for the folks in the darkness don't apply to those in the light.
Neither do the verses intended for those walking in God apply to those walking in sin.
Verse 6, 8, and 10 are intended for those who still commit sin.
For those who walk in the light, God, all their sin has been washed away.
They can say they have no sin.
God makes it possible to remain in the light as long as we want to keep working toward our salvation..."Endure till the end!"

You asked me this question; "Just a quick question...what will the above targeted individuals be when they do "turn from" their sin?"

They will be a child of God as they already were if they have previously accepted Christ. But being born again doesn't insure you don't make mistakes and commit sin sometimes. That's where you and I disagree. But we have gone back and forth about it enough and neither of us will probably change our opinion. God bless and stay in Christ.

 

[At Peace]

Greetings,
debatable.
I hear what you are saying but this is not a road I believe we are called to tip toe through like a minefield... hoping... desperately hoping we get through.... watching our brothers in arms trip the wire..... will i be next...
incoming....steady steady... keep concentrating.... what was that..

Don't you have faith that God will protect you from the "trip wires"?
It is written..."There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." (1 Cor 10:13)
That isn't "debatable"..

BTW, "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love." (1John 4:18)
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[At Peace]

You asked me this question; "Just a quick question...what will the above targeted individuals be when they do "turn from" their sin?"
They will be a child of God as they already were if they have previously accepted Christ. But being born again doesn't insure you don't make mistakes and commit sin sometimes. That's where you and I disagree. But we have gone back and forth about it enough and neither of us will probably change our opinion. God bless and stay in Christ.

Your conjecture doesn't agree with 1 John 3:8-10.

 

[Pilgrim77]

Your conjecture doesn't agree with 1 John 3:8-10.

Yes, and your "conjecture" disagrees with the scriptures I have posted previously. We don't agree so we may as well move on.

Just to give the scripture you posted it's due attention, I am posting some comments from John Gill's commentary.

sinneth not; not that he has no sin in him, or lives without sin, but he does not live in sin, nor give up himself to a vicious course of life; for this would be inconsistent with his dwelling in Christ, and enjoying communion with him:

whosoever sinneth; which is not to be understood of a single action, but of a course of sinning:

I am done with the discussion. As I mentioned earlier we aren't changing each others mind. Don't be hurt if I don't respond any further. God bless you.

 

[At Peace]

Yes, and your "conjecture" disagrees with the scriptures I have posted previously. We don't agree so we may as well move on.

Just to give the scripture you posted it's due attention, I am posting some comments from John Gill's commentary.

sinneth not; not that he has no sin in him, or lives without sin, but he does not live in sin, nor give up himself to a vicious course of life; for this would be inconsistent with his dwelling in Christ, and enjoying communion with him:

whosoever sinneth; which is not to be understood of a single action, but of a course of sinning:

I am done with the discussion. As I mentioned earlier we aren't changing each others mind. Don't be hurt if I don't respond any further. God bless you.

As I am aware that "faith cometh by hearing", to even imagine that I can convince someone to quit committing sin on a computer screen seems futile.
But the practice I get from these encounters with the defenders of sin equip me for personal meetings wherein I do have hope of seeing a true conversion.

I was reading in Ezekiel and found this description of "repentance"...
"Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord God.
Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin." (Ez 18:30)
This description of "repentance agrees with the one I have always used..."turn from".
And in this case, it is "from sin".

Isn't it sin we are commanded to repent of in Acts 2:38?

You asked me this question; "Just a quick question...what will the above targeted individuals be when they do "turn from" their sin?"

They will be a child of God as they already were if they have previously accepted Christ. But being born again doesn't insure you don't make mistakes and commit sin sometimes. That's where you and I disagree. But we have gone back and forth about it enough and neither of us will probably change our opinion. God bless and stay in Christ.