Strange Questions about Christianity?

[In God We Trust!]

Hello, I have some questions that have been upsetting to me for a while that I kept inside, and felt scared to talk about... O.k. here we go...

Christianity states that we have free will, but then on the other hand, it also states that we are suppose to do the things that God wants I.E. no sinning, and live a life that "pleases God" amongst other things...
So what's "free will" then, and its kind of tricky because to most of us "free will" insinuates the ability to do what we want right? Without problems!

Another thing is, the story of Job! A kind of sad story, because we have a God that says he knows everything before it happenes, but in Jobs case, God told Satan it was OK to harm Job, but not kill him, because Satan was (I guess) convincing God, that Job wasn't a TRUE SERVANT!
So how could that happen when he knows everything?

Last but not least, I was told God tells us he will never forsake us, well have you ever encountered, or heard of God actually forsaking people? Not answering prayers when people call out for him, or innocent people praying to God and still getting slaughtered, killed and abused? People usually say God just lets things happen but, its still eerie to say at the least.

Do you realize the times we are in with Satan having so much power, and ability to kill, harm, and destroy those things had been foretold and understood before they happened? What does that mean, if God knew about these horrible things happening, and didn't stop them?
Hes our "Lord and Savior"!

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Christianity states that we have free will,

Which you do within the limitations of the things you have control over.

but then on the other hand, it also states that we are suppose to do the things that God wants

God, being the creator, and maintainer of everything, is completely within His right to require certain things of His Creation. You don't HAVE TO DO what He wants, but you will fact the consequences of your actions.

"free will" insinuates the ability to do what we want right? Without problems!

So you don't understand "Free will" at all, then. You're totally free to do what you want, but there's also the FACT that your actions WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

God told Satan it was OK to harm Job, but not kill him, because Satan was (I guess) convincing God, that Job wasn't a TRUE SERVANT!

Nope, nothing like that at all. Job had a couple of PERSONAL ISSUES that God wanted him to correct ("Behemoth" - doing things in his own power instead of relying on God, and "Leviathan" - Job's personal pride). God used satan surgically to reveal the issues to Job, so that he could repent of them. God was successful in that effort. (Job 42:6)

So how could that happen when he knows everything?

it happened BECAUSE He knows everything, but Job didn't, being only Human. The Book of Job is an insight into God's dealings with us to accomplish HIS WILL.

Last but not least, I was told God tells us he will never forsake us, well have you ever encountered, or heard of God actually forsaking people? Not answering prayers when people call out for him, or innocent people praying to God and still getting slaughtered, killed and abused? People usually say God just lets things happen but, its still eerie to say at the least.

Do you realize the times we are in with Satan having so much power, and ability to kill, harm, and destroy those things had been foretold and understood before they happened? What does that mean, if God knew about these horrible things happening, and didn't stop them?
Hes our "Lord and Savior"!

God has a program for humanity, which is ON schedule, and in budget - and will contrinue to be so until the end of the age. You're pointing out things that you don't like about the way he's running things. Job's initial answers was "Even if HE KILLS ME, I'll trust him". I feel the same way - i.e if death comes this afternoon, it's O.K.

The simple fact is that ALL POWER is God's, and satan is only capable of what he's allowed (the authority that Adam had before he tossed God under the bus, and forfeited it). so no problem - God's in control. That God may (and does) do things that we don't approve of is unimportant - Shall the thing MADE say to him that made it:"why hast thou made me thus"??? (Rom 9:20)

 

[In God We Trust!]

Listen, I know your totally on the "God Train" and everything but, I just want you to relax a little bit, and understand this...
Now let's say I had a son, or daughter, and I said "hey son I want you to know, you have free will, but uhhh, I actually want you to do what I... want!" It's a little misleading... And I guess you might not understand what "salvation" is because you say you will have consequences if you don't "do what he wants", (sins) but that is what being saved stops the consequences of sin, plus the fact we have free will!

Also, I never said I had problems with the way he runs things. I just politely stated I have some questions on my mind... Remember "Satan, is the accuser" not you? LoL

Thank You...

 

[In God We Trust!]

I feel alot of our Christians ✝ Mind set gets all clogged up by the religious aspect of spirituality, and sometimes it blinds up to the facts, and we may not notice things we need to notice!
#TheBrainWashedSheepTheory

 

[Charlie24]

Hello, I have some questions that have been upsetting to me for a while that I kept inside, and felt scared to talk about... O.k. here we go...

Christianity states that we have free will, but then on the other hand, it also states that we are suppose to do the things that God wants I.E. no sinning, and live a life that "pleases God" amongst other things...
So what's "free will" then, and its kind of tricky because to most of us "free will" insinuates the ability to do what we want right? Without problems!

Another thing is, the story of Job! A kind of sad story, because we have a God that says he knows everything before it happenes, but in Jobs case, God told Satan it was OK to harm Job, but not kill him, because Satan was (I guess) convincing God, that Job wasn't a TRUE SERVANT!
So how could that happen when he knows everything?

Last but not least, I was told God tells us he will never forsake us, well have you ever encountered, or heard of God actually forsaking people? Not answering prayers when people call out for him, or innocent people praying to God and still getting slaughtered, killed and abused? People usually say God just lets things happen but, its still eerie to say at the least.

Do you realize the times we are in with Satan having so much power, and ability to kill, harm, and destroy those things had been foretold and understood before they happened? What does that mean, if God knew about these horrible things happening, and didn't stop them?
Hes our "Lord and Savior"!

I once heard a preacher say we are either in the fire of testing, just came out, or getting ready to enter. God is continuously testing our faith and refining us.

It's not for God to see how we will react, He already knows how we will react. The testing is for us to see how we will react.

He knows exactly how to test us, with the purpose to bring us closer to Him. The Scripture calls it our sanctification, setting us apart unto God.

This is what was happening to Job. He came out of the fires of testing on the other side closer to God.

 

[Charlie24]

I once heard a preacher say we are either in the fire of testing, just came out, or getting ready to enter. God is continuously testing our faith and refining us.

It's not for God to see how we will react, He already knows how we will react. The testing is for us to see how we will react.

He knows exactly how to test us, with the purpose to bring us closer to Him. The Scripture calls it our sanctification, setting us apart unto God.

This is what was happening to Job. He came out of the fires of testing on the other side closer to God.

The greater the faith, the greater the testing. From what we read in the book of Job, his faith was astounding in God and required astounding testing.

 

[Hekuran]

Christianity states that we have free will, but then on the other hand, it also states that we are suppose to do the things that God wants I.E. no sinning, and live a life that "pleases God" amongst other things...
So what's "free will" then, and its kind of tricky because to most of us "free will" insinuates the ability to do what we want right? Without problems!

Our freedom is freedom to choose, not freedom from consequences.

The most stark choice in the Bible is the one Moses put before the Israelites at the end of his life.

Deuteronomy 30:15-18 (NRSV

See, I have set before you today life and prosperity, death and adversity.
If you obey the commandments of the LORD your God that I am commanding you today, by loving the LORD your God, walking in his ways, and observing his commandments, decrees, and ordinances, then you shall live and become numerous, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to possess.
But if your heart turns away and you do not hear, but are led astray to bow down to other gods and serve them,
I declare to you today that you shall perish; you shall not live long in the land that you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.

Completely free to choose, knowing the results of their choices

 

[In God We Trust!]

Our freedom is freedom to choose, not freedom from consequences.

The most stark choice in the Bible is the one Moses put before the Israelites at the end of his life.

Deuteronomy 30:15-18 (NRSV

See, I have set before you today life and prosperity, death and adversity.
If you obey the commandments of the LORD your God that I am commanding you today, by loving the LORD your God, walking in his ways, and observing his commandments, decrees, and ordinances, then you shall live and become numerous, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to possess.
But if your heart turns away and you do not hear, but are led astray to bow down to other gods and serve them,
I declare to you today that you shall perish; you shall not live long in the land that you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.

Completely free to choose, knowing the results of their choices

Nobody said it is freedom from consequences! I was talking about how some people believe we will be punished, for using our freewill, ITS FREEWILL, NOONE SHOULD BE PUNISHED for exercising that option...

 

[In God We Trust!]

Which you do within the limitations of the things you have control over.

God, being the creator, and maintainer of everything, is completely within His right to require certain things of His Creation. You don't HAVE TO DO what He wants, but you will fact the consequences of your actions.

So you don't understand "Free will" at all, then. You're totally free to do what you want, but there's also the FACT that your actions WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

Nope, nothing like that at all. Job had a couple of PERSONAL ISSUES that God wanted him to correct ("Behemoth" - doing things in his own power instead of relying on God, and "Leviathan" - Job's personal pride). God used satan surgically to reveal the issues to Job, so that he could repent of them. God was successful in that effort. (Job 42:6)

it happened BECAUSE He knows everything, but Job didn't, being only Human. The Book of Job is an insight into God's dealings with us to accomplish HIS WILL.

God has a program for humanity, which is ON schedule, and in budget - and will contrinue to be so until the end of the age. You're pointing out things that you don't like about the way he's running things. Job's initial answers was "Even if HE KILLS ME, I'll trust him". I feel the same way - i.e if death comes this afternoon, it's O.K.

The simple fact is that ALL POWER is God's, and satan is only capable of what he's allowed (the authority that Adam had before he tossed God under the bus, and forfeited it). so no problem - God's in control. That God may (and does) do things that we don't approve of is unimportant - Shall the thing MADE say to him that made it:"why hast thou made me thus"??? (Rom 9:20)

Listen have you guys even met God yet? I mean, you have so much to say about him!!! The "okeydoke" syndrome
LoL keep typing

 

[In God We Trust!]

Blah blah blah... Meet God before you act like you know all about him! Please

 

[In God We Trust!]

RESULTS FROM CHOICES? THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE ABILITY, AND THE OK TO MAKE???? #BrainWashedOkeyDokers lol

 

[In God We Trust!]

Hey I think I owe people a apology...
I am suffering from a few different disorders "Bi-Polar" and "Schizophrenia"
And I really started recently having big problems with Satan, in my head talking to me, but then it got worse...
Satan started stealing from my residence, and now he has started to deny me my rest. He claims he will never let me get rest again. I really do love God, and I'm sorry that I may have made you think that I was going against him, but my faith has been failing
I might not post anymore because I see that I am upsetting people, and I'm very sorry... Oh, p.s. I rap, and I just want to share my song about my problems.
Here ya go...

 

[MedicBravo]

Hello, I have some questions that have been upsetting to me for a while that I kept inside, and felt scared to talk about... O.k. here we go...

Christianity states that we have free will, but then on the other hand, it also states that we are suppose to do the things that God wants I.E. no sinning, and live a life that "pleases God" amongst other things...
So what's "free will" then, and its kind of tricky because to most of us "free will" insinuates the ability to do what we want right? Without problems!

Another thing is, the story of Job! A kind of sad story, because we have a God that says he knows everything before it happenes, but in Jobs case, God told Satan it was OK to harm Job, but not kill him, because Satan was (I guess) convincing God, that Job wasn't a TRUE SERVANT!
So how could that happen when he knows everything?

Last but not least, I was told God tells us he will never forsake us, well have you ever encountered, or heard of God actually forsaking people? Not answering prayers when people call out for him, or innocent people praying to God and still getting slaughtered, killed and abused? People usually say God just lets things happen but, its still eerie to say at the least.

Do you realize the times we are in with Satan having so much power, and ability to kill, harm, and destroy those things had been foretold and understood before they happened? What does that mean, if God knew about these horrible things happening, and didn't stop them?
Hes our "Lord and Savior"!

God knowing all outcomes for us doesn't negate free will.
Ex:
Say you watch a final game and place a bet. Your fav team wins and you luck out.
You wake the next day but it's the previous day, You know everything that's going to happen especially that game.
You try to convince others of your knowledge they will win but most ignore you.
The game goes the same and you remember it but the players' outcome isn't taken b/c you know the future outcome.

A lot of questions directed at Christians from non and Christians alike should be directed to God.
The truth doesn't come from anyone but God.

Trying to understand God's playbook will only make you hurt yourself.

 

[Hekuran]

Hey I think I owe people a apology...
I am suffering from a few different disorders "Bi-Polar" and "Schizophrenia"
And I really started recently having big problems with Satan, in my head talking to me, but then it got worse...
Satan started stealing from my residence, and now he has started to deny me my rest. He claims he will never let me get rest again. I really do love God, and I'm sorry that I may have made you think that I was going against him, but my faith has been failing
I might not post anymore because I see that I am upsetting people, and I'm very sorry... Oh, p.s. I rap, and I just want to share my song about my problems.
Here ya go...

I really like song - it's refreshing to hear something that feels truly honest and personal. Much closer to the spirit of the psalms thanost of what I hear.

Stay close to Jesus.

 

[Brad Huber]

Hey I think I owe people a apology...
I am suffering from a few different disorders "Bi-Polar" and "Schizophrenia"
And I really started recently having big problems with Satan, in my head talking to me, but then it got worse...
Satan started stealing from my residence, and now he has started to deny me my rest. He claims he will never let me get rest again. I really do love God, and I'm sorry that I may have made you think that I was going against him, but my faith has been failing
I might not post anymore because I see that I am upsetting people, and I'm very sorry... Oh, p.s. I rap, and I just want to share my song about my problems.
Here ya go...

God I believe had to give us free will or we would not be able to love, because love is making good choices for both ourselves and others, including love of God. And Love is the greatest most eternal attribute that we can have. And God laid out what the good choices are and they are recorded throughout scripture, so that we would know if we are making the good choices that God wants us to make, but only if its our own will. Become more like the good angels or more like the fallen angels. And its better that we learn these things before we gain real power like the angels already have.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Listen have you guys even met God yet?

I have several times over the last 60 years - in '47 or so, He helped me with a FEAR issue. Then in '63 He convicted me big time of my SIN, which led to being Born again. Most recently before my first open heart that I was afraid - and then HE was there, and everything was O.K. I see HIS HAND in many things, now - more so as I get older.

 

[Hekuran]

I really do love God, and I'm sorry that I may have made you think that I was going against him, but my faith has been failing

I'm praying for you now, that God will give you strength to hold on and bring you through difficult times.

And remember, it's not of first importance how much faith you have, or how strong your faith is, what is most important is what you put your faith in.

Whether you are holding to Jesus with a solid and firm grasp, or whether it's by the edges of your fingernails, he'll carry you through.

 

[In God We Trust!]

I'm praying for you now, that God will give you strength to hold on and bring you through difficult times.

And remember, it's not of first importance how much faith you have, or how strong your faith is, what is most important is what you put your faith in.

Whether you are holding to Jesus with a solid and firm grasp, or whether it's by the edges of your fingernails, he'll carry you through.

Thank You!

 

[KingJ]

Christianity states that we have free will, but then on the other hand, it also states that we are suppose to do the things that God wants I.E. no sinning, and live a life that "pleases God" amongst other things...
So what's "free will" then, and its kind of tricky because to most of us "free will" insinuates the ability to do what we want right? Without problems!

Where do you get the ''without problems'' part?

If you exercise your free will to slap someone, you will get slapped back. You are creating your own definition of free will.

Another thing is, the story of Job! A kind of sad story, because we have a God that says he knows everything before it happenes, but in Jobs case, God told Satan it was OK to harm Job, but not kill him, because Satan was (I guess) convincing God, that Job wasn't a TRUE SERVANT!
So how could that happen when he knows everything?

Where does scripture say God knows everything before it happens? That is an assumption off of scripture that says He is omniscient.

Being able to know all does not default into 'knowing all'. Example: God hates what is evil and is omnipotent (all powerful). Yet evil takes place. What does that tell us about God? It says very clearly that He chooses to limit His omnipotence in order to uphold free will. Free will is a necessary gift to a highly intelligent being like us. Especially necessary if God that wants to be ''good'. Which scripture says He does and is in Psalm 145:17, Psalm 136:, 1 John 1:5 and Job 34:12. Likewise God can and will limit His omniscience if not doing so can be proven to be evil. This is the case with partiality. This is why we read of Peter ''grasping'' a truth he never grasped before in Acts 10:34

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons.

Last but not least, I was told God tells us he will never forsake us, well have you ever encountered, or heard of God actually forsaking people? Not answering prayers when people call out for him, or innocent people praying to God and still getting slaughtered, killed and abused? People usually say God just lets things happen but, its still eerie to say at the least.

Scripture also says He does not hear the prayer of sinners John 9:31.

You must be careful of forming ideology on half truths. Otherwise you may think you can jump off heights and expect angels to catch you.

Do you realize the times we are in with Satan having so much power, and ability to kill, harm, and destroy those things had been foretold and understood before they happened? What does that mean, if God knew about these horrible things happening, and didn't stop them?

God uses the devil. There is nothing he can do without God opening the doors for him to do it. God placed him on earth.

The problem is that most think he is behind all evil. He is not. Many people are exercising their free will in the space and time Gad has given them to do what is evil.

Hes our "Lord and Savior"!

When you understand the full picture you will understand this to be true.

There will be no ''wicked exercising their free will in heaven'' for all eternity. It is only this period on earth where the wicked have victims in saints, children and animals.

There are many accounts in scripture where God rescued His people or was with them in their suffering. God does not leave nor forsake 'His' children. Ever!

He is indeed our Lord and Saviour.

 

[KingJ]

Nobody said it is freedom from consequences! I was talking about how some people believe we will be punished, for using our freewill, ITS FREEWILL, NOONE SHOULD BE PUNISHED for exercising that option...

Can you give an example of ''punished'' for using free will?

I have heard this in discussion with atheists. Simplifying choosing satanism over Jesus / Christianity as a choice between religion A over religion B.

Choosing to accept Jesus is not merely choosing person A over person B. Accepting Jesus is choosing to follow and do those things He taught. God has from His own free will chosen to be good. So, when we from free will choose to not hate what is evil, we must not expect to be with Him one day.

We have free will on earth, heaven and hell. You will not ever lose your free will to do as you please. There are levels in heaven. Not all serve God as much as the next. Heaven and hell is God ensuring that saints, children and animals never be the victims of the wicked exercising their free will to be wicked. This is why hell can't but be called a place of eternal punishment if it is contrasted with heaven.