The ability to deal with feeling and emotions in our Life!

[Brighthouse]

Popcorn ready?? Good!! This topic is never talked about very much, and it should, because we all deal with feeling and emotions everyday in our life!! This is not going to be walk around the trees kind of talk! To the point and direct!! Someone has said something to hurt your feeling, or have done something that you sure would never had done to them, and they are suppose to be a believer to!!

The flesh has no problem putting that person in there place! Mine sure does not!! LOL I remember one day, a person said so very bad things about me to another,I heard them to! So I stormed over to give them what for, and my tongue got stuck to the roof of my mouth!!! LOL Like here!!( Luke 1:18-20) and Ezekiel 3:26-27,Ezekiel 33:22!!!)

The person looked at me and asked why I could not speak straight?? Are you having a stroke or something?? LOL I knew why after this!! In my mind rested this scripture given to my mind to process!( Col 4:6) I just waved to them as I left LOL But I knew!! Ambassador's for Christ needs teaching to really become one as well!!( 2 Cor 5:17-21!!!) If we say we are a new creature one had better act like one as well!!

The point to tongue getting stuck in the roof of my mouth! For quite a time I never did have a problem letting someone else have it, but the more I got into contact with the Word of Jesus over, and for my own life, the longer I kept from speaking!! LOL For truly we all know how true this scripture has become to all of our lives as well as others!!( Proverbs 18:21) Words of LIFE!!! NOT WORDS of death! How important is that to you??

Our answer to this rests in our life! What we do! Not what we say! With this in mind brothers and sisters we must have self control for our own lives before we can help another to do the very same for themselves!( matt 7:3-5) You can be right in your defense, but wrong in how we present our defense, who is the defense boasting about??? humm? We have no excuses any longer folks!!

So let us not make any more of them! ( 1 Cor 1:27-31!!!) When you have taken upon yourself this mindset, you can then understand as I am doing myself daily how to grow in grace for others each and everyday!! ( 2Peter 3:18) Feeling and emotion are not evil in themselves ,but the flesh can cause them to become evil if we listen to it, rather then the Word who is our Jesus to comfort and bring peace to every situation! I could go one for days on this subject ,but I just wanted to give us all something to consider in the here and now! If you consider this,you will mature and grow,and if you do not consider this,you will remain as you are.Its that simple! So take the ball, it is now in your court,just do not complain about the results if you look to use your own wisdom over it!! LOL

 

[fightngwrmwood]

Praise the Lord feeling and emotion can also edify and enrich our prayer life, whether it's keeping it in check from the flesh like you describe, or an overflow of love and joy and finding the right words to build up. I so agree with this discipline of self control, but also see a large realm of good emotion, (for our Lord cares most about our heart), I take too much for granted. Empathy, compassion, Pslam singing joy, these too are just as prevelant in this dark world because of His gift of life to us. Let us remember the gift of emotion as well as being wary of its snares. Both are so important. (James 5:13-14, 1 John 4:7-10, Psalm 95:1-7, Psalm 77:1)

 

[Brighthouse]

Come down off that fence right now fightingwrmwood!!! ROFLOLLLLL Your feeling are to high!! LOLLLL Here is the point! A person who wants a pet should only have the pet you may one day for whatever reason have to put down, and can do it! Feeling can be good, but also hurt us when bad times come,because the high energy used to have good feeling will also be the same when bad feeling look to run us! And if that happens feeling can indeed overcome us!Hence the danger I speak of hehe

 

[fightngwrmwood]

I will come off the fence and dig a deep trench too! . I realize I might be setting myself up w this but here goes. I'd rather the highs and lows with Him than my superficial happiness due to circumstances, like a new pet or self pity because i can't see past a loss and (eventually) see its temporal. Isaiah 53:3 - we know He knows both deep sorrow as well as joy and that's very different than us in our flesh yet, I will maintain, (maybe the unpopular) opinion that He is emotional and our emotions can be transformed along with the new heart He gives. The longer I walk w Him, the more disturbed I am by both the cross and how much I benefit from it. Though deep peace also comes. I dont expect you to agree with all this - but I can't deny it either. Each night when I ask the Spirit to show me the day, and show me the sin and fleshly stuff, like impatience, jealousy, insincerity, coveting etc, but there's another side, patience, contentment, generosity, honesty, a wide range of fruit or lack of it that reveals my heart. It's emotional. And yes, unforgiveness is a poison to be especially mindful of because it can taint all our experiences. I think that's why He said to leave the gift at the alter and get right with the person. But even that shows a guiding by the Holy sPirit in how we feel. We sin when we dwell where we should allow and extend His forgiveness, but when we turn and move in obedience, its a good feeling! Restlessness until we are right with Him.

 

[Brad Huber]

If you want to walk the path, you must walk both mountains and valleys. Do not despise the valley for the beauty of the mountain, and neither despise the mountain for the gentleness of the easy slope of the valley. We are meant to experience them both. As long as we grow wiser from our experience in our walk, our time is in no way wasted.

 

[Bendito]

Popcorn ready?? Good!! This topic is never talked about very much, and it should, because we all deal with feeling and emotions everyday in our life!! This is not going to be walk around the trees kind of talk! To the point and direct!! Someone has said something to hurt your feeling, or have done something that you sure would never had done to them, and they are suppose to be a believer to!!

The flesh has no problem putting that person in there place! Mine sure does not!! LOL I remember one day, a person said so very bad things about me to another,I heard them to! So I stormed over to give them what for, and my tongue got stuck to the roof of my mouth!!! LOL Like here!!( Luke 1:18-20) and Ezekiel 3:26-27,Ezekiel 33:22!!!)

The person looked at me and asked why I could not speak straight?? Are you having a stroke or something?? LOL I knew why after this!! In my mind rested this scripture given to my mind to process!( Col 4:6) I just waved to them as I left LOL But I knew!! Ambassador's for Christ needs teaching to really become one as well!!( 2 Cor 5:17-21!!!) If we say we are a new creature one had better act like one as well!!

The point to tongue getting stuck in the roof of my mouth! For quite a time I never did have a problem letting someone else have it, but the more I got into contact with the Word of Jesus over, and for my own life, the longer I kept from speaking!! LOL For truly we all know how true this scripture has become to all of our lives as well as others!!( Proverbs 18:21) Words of LIFE!!! NOT WORDS of death! How important is that to you??

Our answer to this rests in our life! What we do! Not what we say! With this in mind brothers and sisters we must have self control for our own lives before we can help another to do the very same for themselves!( matt 7:3-5) You can be right in your defense, but wrong in how we present our defense, who is the defense boasting about??? humm? We have no excuses any longer folks!!

So let us not make any more of them! ( 1 Cor 1:27-31!!!) When you have taken upon yourself this mindset, you can then understand as I am doing myself daily how to grow in grace for others each and everyday!! ( 2Peter 3:18) Feeling and emotion are not evil in themselves ,but the flesh can cause them to become evil if we listen to it, rather then the Word who is our Jesus to comfort and bring peace to every situation! I could go one for days on this subject ,but I just wanted to give us all something to consider in the here and now! If you consider this,you will mature and grow,and if you do not consider this,you will remain as you are.Its that simple! So take the ball, it is now in your court,just do not complain about the results if you look to use your own wisdom over it!! LOL

Wow This is a difficult topic... I was beat if I displayed any emotion as a kid...or taken advantage of in another, just as painful, way....I learned to let go of that in my later years and find it really difficult to master the softer emotions...and I still fight with the uglier ones....I often wish I could stuff them back into the box... I still don't know the use of emotions..All they do is get me into trouble with the women in my life......
There! I shared something about myself....

 

[Brighthouse]

Yes Bendito, I was to. Anger, and Sadness never fix the problem, only swift action does. I am thankful for our dear sister fightwrmwood who can see things differently! The hard lesson some of us men were taught as children, only now can we see why they taught us like they did.The world can become so cruel and so many from the world, can be a part of that as well. The teaching was to have strong courage and act like a man, and not a woman. For what kind of helpmate can woman be, if her man is not leading by example in his own life? I have found great value in ladies in my own life! They will become a mirror to man if he does not watch his step! For to me a woman reflects the heart of her man, in word and in deed, not always, but most of the time I think.In my 62 years I always wanted my lady to remain as she is,I never wished to create her as anything else,I either accept her for who she is,or I do not date her. LOL Because no matter how strong a woman feeling are and can be,they will never change who I am,nor my goals for my own life. There is one thing I should do before I go on to be with the Lord,so far, I have never held a baby in my arms. NEVER! I have had some chances to do it,but never would. LOL I think I know why to.From everyone who I have witnessed holding a child wells of emotion and feeling come forth from the person holding that child,I do not know why,nor do I wish to find out either. LOL Jesus did cry,but only for purpose,not because he wanted his feeling to become known.( rom 12:15) I cannot picture Jesus doing a happy dance on something or over something or someone. lol But what do I know,I am only a man!! LOL Thanks to the both of you,for helping me to think more about feeling and emotion. I am reminded of Ecc 3:1-11 The question now becomes will you know that proper time when it hits?? maybe so,maybe so.

 

[Bendito]

Yes Bendito, I was to. Anger, and Sadness never fix the problem, only swift action does. I am thankful for our dear sister fightwrmwood who can see things differently! The hard lesson some of us men were taught as children, only now can we see why they taught us like they did.The world can become so cruel and so many from the world, can be a part of that as well. The teaching was to have strong courage and act like a man, and not a woman. For what kind of helpmate can woman be, if her man is not leading by example in his own life? I have found great value in ladies in my own life! They will become a mirror to man if he does not watch his step! For to me a woman reflects the heart of her man, in word and in deed, not always, but most of the time I think.In my 62 years I always wanted my lady to remain as she is,I never wished to create her as anything else,I either accept her for who she is,or I do not date her. LOL Because no matter how strong a woman feeling are and can be,they will never change who I am,nor my goals for my own life. There is one thing I should do before I go on to be with the Lord,so far, I have never held a baby in my arms. NEVER! I have had some chances to do it,but never would. LOL I think I know why to.From everyone who I have witnessed holding a child wells of emotion and feeling come forth from the person holding that child,I do not know why,nor do I wish to find out either. LOL Jesus did cry,but only for purpose,not because he wanted his feeling to become known.( rom 12:15) I cannot picture Jesus doing a happy dance on something or over something or someone. lol But what do I know,I am only a man!! LOL Thanks to the both of you,for helping me to think more about feeling and emotion. I am reminded of Ecc 3:1-11 The question now becomes will you know that proper time when it hits?? maybe so,maybe so.

LOL Still, I would love to take those emotions and lose them...Ah well, I'll wail and gnash my teeth and learn...:coffee:

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

LOL Still, I would love to take those emotions and lose them...Ah well, I'll wail and gnash my teeth and learn...:coffee:

Brother Benito you can be rid of all controlling emotions. Truth is we are required to do just that.
The scriptures below outline how this can be done. Once then fruit of the following is being produced no emotion can ever control you again.

Galatians 5:16 and Romans 12:2 and 2 Corinthians 10:4-5

Romans 12:2 ....

And be not conformed to this world; but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God

(( Get His word in you each and every day and speak His word each and every day ))

2 Corinthians 10:4-5
4... For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to pulling down strong holds
5... Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.

(( Begin to practice the words you speak and thoughts you think for our thoughts and words to control how we act or react and believe. Our own words do more do influence our thinking then most of everything else. ))

Galatians 5:16
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh

(( The more you do the first two the more you will begin to walk in the Spirit and you will be amazed to say the least. ))

All done through the Grace of God who maketh all grace abound to me. ( 2 Corinthians 9:8 )

Blessings and love in Christ
James W

 

[JohnP]

I don't understand the point being made here. God made us to have emotions! He made us in HIS image - so do you not believe that He has emotions? John 11:35, a two word verse - "Jesus Wept" is as powerful to me as any verse in the Bible. Do you know why? Because it shows to me that Jesus feels the same emotions that we do, and that is important to me. Did Jesus not demonstrate anger when He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves in the temple? (Mark 11:15) Didn't God so LOVE the world that He gave his only son (John 3:16)??

Why would anyone say that emotions are bad when God Himself has emotions?? I just provided 3 verses that clearly demonstrate He does. God did not create nor desire robots! My only brother died 4 days ago. Is it being suggested that I should feel no emotions over that?

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

I don't understand the point being made here. God made us to have emotions! He made us in HIS image - so do you not believe that He has emotions? John 11:35, a two word verse - "Jesus Wept" is as powerful to me as any verse in the Bible. Do you know why? Because it shows to me that Jesus feels the same emotions that we do, and that is important to me. Did Jesus not demonstrate anger when He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves in the temple? (Mark 11:15) Didn't God so LOVE the world that He gave his only son (John 3:16)??

Why would anyone say that emotions are bad when God Himself has emotions?? I just provided 3 verses that clearly demonstrate He does. God did not create nor desire robots! My only brother died 4 days ago. Is it being suggested that I should feel no emotions over that?

John Hi,
It is being controlled by our emotions that is the problem. Allowing emotions to lead us or direct us or move us in the spirit is when the problem arises. Yes we show emotions to a point but we must be in control of our emotions. Faith can not be swayed or hindered by any emotions.
God Bless
James W

 

[JohnP]

John Hi,
It is being controlled by our emotions that is the problem. Allowing emotions to lead us or direct us or move us in the spirit is when the problem arises. Yes we show emotions to a point but we must be in control of our emotions. Faith can not be swayed or hindered by any emotions.
God Bless
James W

It depends on the emotion. Replace the word "emotions" in your sentence with a specific emotion and the outcome is very different - "Allowing hatred to lead us or direct us...", sure I can agree with that. "Allowing love to lead us or direct us...", what is the problem with that?

Jesus showed emotion all throughout his life. Suppressing our emotions and denying them is flat out unhealthy, and a very typical male response (somehow showing emotions is considered "unmasculine" by some). Look at some of the responses in this very thread, James - "I was beat if I displayed any emotion as a kid". And you want to perpetuate this myth that emotions are bad for us?

All I can think of is that the word "emotion" is being used incorrectly here and really referring to "thoughts", which is what the Bible verses you presented are talking about. One should be guarding their thoughts and actions, but their emotions? No, I'm sorry, there is nothing biblical or healthy about that.

 

[Brighthouse]

Hi John, you wrote Jesus wept,but do you know why he wept? Jesus did not weep because he was sad,he wept because of this scripture.( Rom 12:15) Of course emotion is present in all of us!! I sure agree with you! And there is nothing wrong with showing or having emotion, as long as it is always with, and for a purpose!!! I know some will not agree!! LOL But to me brother self control( Gal 5:22-24) look close at verse 24 please.

Emotions and feeling come from the flesh,so to me brother,I must look to keep them in check! When I pray for people do I feel God's Power moving, sometimes brother, sometimes,but it is not a gauge I look to have when praying! Just an example,as you know our emotions and feeling can also mislead us! I just want to always be led by Holy Spirit( Rom 8:14-15) and not MY feeling! Blessing always to you!

 

[JohnP]

Hi John, you wrote Jesus wept,but do you know why he wept? Jesus did not weep because he was sad,he wept because of this scripture.( Rom 12:15) Of course emotion is present in all of us!! I sure agree with you! And there is nothing wrong with showing or having emotion, as long as it is always with, and for a purpose!!! I know some will not agree!! LOL But to me brother self control( Gal 5:22-24) look close at verse 24 please.

Emotions and feeling come from the flesh,so to me brother,I must look to keep them in check! When I pray for people do I feel God's Power moving, sometimes brother, sometimes,but it is not a gauge I look to have when praying! Just an example,as you know our emotions and feeling can also mislead us! I just want to always be led by Holy Spirit( Rom 8:14-15) and not MY feeling! Blessing always to you!

The point is, Jesus did weep! You are giving me arguments against emotion with scripture that is encouraging emotion!! Look at what Romans 12:15 says: "Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn." What are those two things? Emotions! You told me to examine Galatians 5:22-24. OK, let's:

(verses 22 & 23) "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."

What is love, joy, peace, et al? They are emotions! "Against such things there is no law"! Verse 24 says "Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires." Is that what you read into that, that the passions and desires of the flesh is emotions? I argue that we are talking about thoughts and actions here, not emotions! What about the love (emotion) God has for us?

Sometimes, when I am deeply worshiping and praising Jesus, I am so overcome with love (emotion), joy (emotion) and happiness (emotion) that I literally weep (emotion). Are you going to try and tell me this is wrong? Are you going to tell me that I should stifle these emotions when I am worshiping our Lord? Are you going to tell me that when my brother died on Monday and I was crying (emotion) with my sister as she broke the news to me, that that was wrong? Are you going to say I should have "controlled myself" in that situation?

 

[JohnP]

Emotions and feeling come from the flesh,so to me brother,I must look to keep them in check!

It greatly saddens me that you feel this way, but if you choose to live your life that way, that is your choice. What saddens me even more is that you are trying to convince others of this unhealthy and biblically incorrect stance. If someone I knew personally said that sentence to me, I would suggest to them that they should seek counseling. I will pray for you, brother. God bless.

 

[Brighthouse]

LOL, Wow seek counseling!! ok here is where we differ brother,you look at love, and peace as an emotion,I look at this as becoming part of a new nature.( 2 Cor 5:17) If I have to feel love before i have it,then I am looking to me rather then who I serve! John 3:16 has nothing to do with how he felt,which is why the Word himself did not feel love to start with,if feeling are a part of our faith, then why are feeling not mentioned as being a part of who we choose to believe in?? Sometimes we feel as if the Lord is not there,are they correct feeling?? When the word himself tells us different??( Matt 28:20!!) so if I feel Jesus is not around me,am I correct?? Or does his very word super seed ones feeling? I do not look to self for answers according to my feeling.Which is the problem i have with your statement on feeling. So I will pray for you to. hehe

 

[Brighthouse]

And no brother I am not telling you to not have emotion, heck we all do!! I am only speaking upon the purpose of having them in our life. I have emotion to! I have cried before the Lord as you have,the difference now is that I now have a purpose in what I do,which was not true long ago! If a brother is joyful over something, I am to! But that is not because I choose to feel that way,rather it is because I am to share with that brother of sister there joy or sorrow.I hope you understand this.

 

[JohnP]

LOL, Wow seek counseling!! ok here is where we differ brother,you look at love, and peace as an emotion,I look at this as becoming part of a new nature.( 2 Cor 5:17) If I have to feel love before i have it,then I am looking to me rather then who I serve! John 3:16 has nothing to do with how he felt,which is why the Word himself did not feel love to start with,if feeling are a part of our faith, then why are feeling not mentioned as being a part of who we choose to believe in?? Sometimes we feel as if the Lord is not there,are they correct feeling?? When the word himself tells us different??( Matt 28:20!!) so if I feel Jesus is not around me,am I correct?? Or does his very word super seed ones feeling? I do not look to self for answers according to my feeling.Which is the problem i have with your statement on feeling. So I will pray for you to. hehe

I was very careful not to say that I was advising you to seek counseling, I don't know you well enough. That's why I said "If someone I knew personally..."

And of course I am not suggesting that your emotions supercede God's Word. That is putting words in my mouth.

Just like there are good thoughts and bad thoughts, good actions and bad actions, there are good emotions and bad emotions.

I really do appreciate us being able to have this conversation without it turning into something ugly. That is a good feeling (hehehe - sorry, I couldn't resist!). And I can always use prayers! ;-)

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

Emotion
1570s, "a (social) moving, stirring, agitation," from Middle French émotion (16c.), from Old French emouvoir "stir up" (12c.), from Latin emovere "move out, remove, agitate," from assimilated form of ex- "out" (see ex-) + movere "to move" (see move (v.)). Sense of "strong feeling" is first recorded 1650s; extended to any feeling by 1808.

Scripture speaks of being moved by a spirit so it would be helpful to study that a bit.

Judges 2:18 Whenever the LORD raised up judges for them, the LORD was with the judge, and he saved them from the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge. For the LORD was moved to pity by their groaning because of those who afflicted and oppressed them.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

The various translations handle the terms in many different ways but since emotion is a concept that was not around at the time of the writings
it seems pointless to have an opinion on emotions being spiritual or flesh.
Some feelings may well be a reaction or sensitivity to a spirit and although experienced at a human level,the source may not really be human at all.

 

[robaston]

I remember one day, a person said so very bad things about me to another,I heard them to! So I stormed over to give them what for,

mate, i many-a-time are challenged to reply with just desserts. if we had got that when converted, how many would be alive! key is submit to God and He will look after it - in you and them