The baptism in Fire

[A servant of the Kings]

The baptism of fire, is performed in the second heaven by God Himself. It is done in what is like a basin before those Who are too holy to mention, they have been called, angels with rolling eyes, or rather:

12Their entire bodies, including their backs, hands, and wings, were full of eyes all around, as were their four wheels. 13I heard the wheels being called “the whirling wheels.”…

The fire is the white fire of God, there is no yellow orange or red there. There, there is only the white light of Father. The white fire seem like condensed Holy Spirit.

Like the beautiful scent of a flower of the heavenly meadow, seem like the spirit of the flower, it will lead you to the flower, it will speak of the flower, and is One with the flower.

So is Gods One Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Gods One Light. The white light. The Spirit will lead us to His light that is in Heaven, where our Father is.

Thus Jesus who will perform the will of God, in harmony with the Holy Spirit will tell you this:

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”…

We that have been baptized in the white fire of God will be allowed by God to sit on Jesus left and right side, on each of the thrones beside the throne of Jesus in the third heaven:

36“What do you want Me to do for you?” He inquired. 37 They answered, “Grant that one of us may sit at Your right hand and the other at Your left in Your glory.” 38“You do not know what you are asking,” Jesus replied. “Can you drink the cup I will drink, or be baptized with the baptism I will undergo?”…

The baptism of fire is mentioned here:

10The axe lies ready at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire. 11I baptize you with water for repentance, but after me will come One more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.

Do not believe those who say the dead can go to heaven: 26But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

And since false rumors has been spread by false teachers about it, here it is again: 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of it I do not know, but God knows

The baptism in the Spirit, is thus the scent that may lead you to the Flower, which is the Light of God, the White fire of God, the Light of God is in heaven, Where Hi light is, Heaven is.

 

[A servant of the Kings]

5 And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you: God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.

 

[Butch5]

It seems the baptism with fire is the Lake of Fire is Gehenna.

Matthew 3:11–12 (KJV 1900): but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

 

[A servant of the Kings]

I do not know how you dare claim such things?

Are you saying Jesus would come with a baptism that is tricking people to go into the fires of hell!?

Please repent quickly, and ask His forgiveness, may God have mercy on your soul

 

[Butch5]

I do not know how you dare claim such things?

Are you saying Jesus would come with a baptism that is tricking people to go into the fires of hell!?

Please repent quickly, and ask His forgiveness, may God have mercy on your soul

Did you read the passage? John said the one coming after him would baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire and then described the fire. It's the chaff that goes into the fire, not the believers.

 

[lentz]

It seems the baptism with fire is the Lake of Fire is Gehenna.

Matthew 3:11–12 (KJV 1900): but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Baptism of/by/with fire,is the work of the Holy Spirit sealing you by purging you of your sins.
It is also associated with judgment.

 

[A servant of the Kings]

Did you read the passage? John said the one coming after him would baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire and then described the fire. It's the chaff that goes into the fire, not the believers.

That is wrong, it is as I have written, I write to you about my own experience, I have myself been baptized with the baptism that Jesus has been through, and He lets us know i is possible below:

…36“What do you want Me to do for you?” He inquired. 37 They answered, “Grant that one of us may sit at Your right hand and the other at Your left in Your glory.” 38“You do not know what you are asking,” Jesus replied. “Can you drink the cup I will drink, or be baptized with the baptism I will undergo?”…

I have been seated on His left and on His right side.

You should not spread such rumours about Jesus baptizing people in hell.

Jesus offers a way to heaven. He does not want people to choose hell
People choose it of their own will.

Jesus will baptize us in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit will lead us home to Heaven
In heaven all is light, Gods white light

And there is also the white fire of God in the second heaven as I have testified

 

[A servant of the Kings]

Baptism of/by/with fire,is the work of the Holy Spirit sealing you by purging you of your sins.
It is also associated with judgment.

Yes that is true Lentz, but there are two kinds of fire
The fire of God is white, that has to do with as you write purging of sins
But the other fire is in the pit of fire it is yellow orange and red, and has to do with judgement as you write

How did you know it ?

Have you found it in the bible?

I Have not yet.

 

[Butch5]

Baptism of/by/with fire,is the work of the Holy Spirit sealing you by purging you of your sins.
It is also associated with judgment.

Scripture please.

 

[Butch5]

That is wrong, it is as I have written, I write to you about my own experience, I have myself been baptized with the baptism that Jesus has been through, and He lets us know i is possible below:

…36“What do you want Me to do for you?” He inquired. 37 They answered, “Grant that one of us may sit at Your right hand and the other at Your left in Your glory.” 38“You do not know what you are asking,” Jesus replied. “Can you drink the cup I will drink, or be baptized with the baptism I will undergo?”…

I have been seated on His left and on His right side.

You should not spread such rumours about Jesus baptizing people in hell.

Jesus offers a way to heaven. He does not want people to choose hell
People choose it of their own will.

Jesus will baptize us in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit will lead us home to Heaven
In heaven all is light, Gods white light

And there is also the white fire of God in the second heaven as I have testified

The Scripture is wrong and your experiences is right?

Ok, got it!

 

[Charlie24]

Did you read the passage? John said the one coming after him would baptized with the Holy Spirit and fire and then described the fire. It's the chaff that goes into the fire, not the believers.

Hi Butch!

Not trying to start an argument, the wrong kind anyway. Just hear me out, there are many interpretations to that verse.

We are baptized with the Holy Spirit, nailed to the Cross with Him, dying with Him, and placed in Him.

This is being born-again, what the Holy Spirit does the moment we accept Christ. It has nothing to do with water.

"Baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire." What does the fire represent?

Christ has a fan in His hand, this represents separating the wheat from the chaff, the old way of doing it.

Notice Matthew said, "and He will thoroughly purge His floor." This is to bring forth more fruit. The key word is "purge."

John 15:2

"Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

The "purging" brings forth more fruit. We're speaking of the born-again here.

The wheat is symbolic of the work of the Holy Spirit, the fruit, the chaff is symbolic of the works of the flesh.

The works of the flesh is what is burned up by the fire when the Spirit comes to dwell in us at salvation. in order to bring forth more wheat/fruit.

There can be no fruit unless it comes by way of the Holy Spirit through us. The works of the flesh cannot produce fruit for Christ.

Bearing proper fruit requires the proper object of faith, The flesh is our enemy and must be taken out of the way to produce fruit that God will accept.

 

[A servant of the Kings]

The Scripture is wrong and your experiences is right?

Ok, got it!

No I have quoted twice where you can find Jesus mentioning that those who wants to sit on His right and His left side must go through the same baptism He went through, are you saying Jesus got baptized in hell too?

I am warning you again, you are speaking of very holy things which you know nothing about, do not blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

What I have not seen in scripture is references to the hellfire being yellow orange and red.

 

[Butch5]

No I have quoted twice where you can find Jesus mentioning that those who wants to sit on His right and His left side must go through the same baptism He went through, are you saying Jesus got baptized in hell too?

I am warning you again, you are speaking of very holy things which you know nothing about, do not blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

What I have not seen in scripture is references to the hellfire being yellow orange and red.

Do you know what the word baptism means?

 

[lentz]

Hi Butch!

Not trying to start an argument, the wrong kind anyway. Just hear me out, there are many interpretations to that verse.

We are baptized with the Holy Spirit, nailed to the Cross with Him, dying with Him, and placed in Him.

This is being born-again, what the Holy Spirit does the moment we accept Christ. It has nothing to do with water.

"Baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire." What does the fire represent?

Christ has a fan in His hand, this represents separating the wheat from the chaff, the old way of doing it.

Notice Matthew said, "and He will thoroughly purge His floor." This is to bring forth more fruit. The key word is "purge."

John 15:2

"Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

The "purging" brings forth more fruit. We're speaking of the born-again here.

The wheat is symbolic of the work of the Holy Spirit, the fruit, the chaff is symbolic of the works of the flesh.

The works of the flesh is what is burned up by the fire when the Spirit comes to dwell in us at salvation. in order to bring forth more wheat/fruit.

There can be no fruit unless it comes by way of the Holy Spirit through us. The works of the flesh cannot produce fruit for Christ.

Bearing proper fruit requires the proper object of faith, The flesh is our enemy and must be taken out of the way to produce fruit that God will accept.

@Butch5
I think Charlie explained it quite well. Nothing more I could add

 

[Charlie24]

Do you know what the word baptism means?

It means to be immersed into something. It's not always water.

In this case, it's being immersed into Christ.

When Paul said, "baptized into Christ" he meant exactly that, immersed into Christ, being placed in Christ.

 

[Butch5]

Hi Butch!

Not trying to start an argument, the wrong kind anyway. Just hear me out, there are many interpretations to that verse.

We are baptized with the Holy Spirit, nailed to the Cross with Him, dying with Him, and placed in Him.

This is being born-again, what the Holy Spirit does the moment we accept Christ. It has nothing to do with water.

"Baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire." What does the fire represent?

Christ has a fan in His hand, this represents separating the wheat from the chaff, the old way of doing it.

Notice Matthew said, "and He will thoroughly purge His floor." This is to bring forth more fruit. The key word is "purge."

John 15:2

"Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

The "purging" brings forth more fruit. We're speaking of the born-again here.

The wheat is symbolic of the work of the Holy Spirit, the fruit, the chaff is symbolic of the works of the flesh.

The works of the flesh is what is burned up by the fire when the Spirit comes to dwell in us at salvation. in order to bring forth more wheat/fruit.

There can be no fruit unless it comes by way of the Holy Spirit through us. The works of the flesh cannot produce fruit for Christ.

Bearing proper fruit requires the proper object of faith, The flesh is our enemy and must be taken out of the way to produce fruit that God will accept.

I disagree with some of what you've written here. I see what you're saying, however, I don't necessarily agree. John said that to the Jews. Jesus was sent to the Jews. He was going to purge Israel. Some would believe, some wouldn't. Remember, He said He was sent to turn Father against son.

Luke 12:49–53 (KJV 1900): 49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

He came purge Israel. The believers would be baptized with the Holy Spirit. The unbelievers would be baptized with fire.

 

[Charlie24]

I disagree with some of what you've written here. I see what you're saying, however, I don't necessarily agree. John said that to the Jews. Jesus was sent to the Jews. He was going to purge Israel. Some would believe, some wouldn't. Remember, He said He was sent to turn Father against son.

Luke 12:49–53 (KJV 1900): 49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

He came purge Israel. The believers would be baptized with the Holy Spirit. The unbelievers would be baptized with fire.

Ok, that's fine. I'll not argue.

 

[Butch5]

It means to be immersed into something. It's not always water.

In this case, it's being immersed into Christ.

When Paul said, "baptized into Christ" he meant exactly that, immersed into Christ, being placed in Christ.

Which takes place in water. Look Romans 6

 

[Butch5]

@Butch5
I think Charlie explained it quite well. Nothing more I could add

But, I believe he's misunderstanding a few things.

 

[Butch5]

Ok, that's fine. I'll not argue.

I'm not looking to argue. I don't think the position you posted fits the context.