Servant said:
#10just-a-servant, Today at 5:17 AM
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TRUTH BE TOLD said: ↑
The whole purpose of the mark is to seal ones fate in the lake of fire - Rev 14:9-11 devils desire
The sealing of one's fate to the lake of fire is made long before the mark of the beast is applied. The taking of the mark only identifies those who have pledged allegiance to the beast. Those who have the mark are doomed to the lake of fire, but the taking of it only demonstrates a conscious decision by the wearer.
If you don't worship the image of the beast they kill you - Rev 13:15
If you want to buy or sell anything you must have the image scarred into your hand or forehead and its either that or death..... everybody will need to buy in that day.... you wont be allowed to live without the image...
This is simply untrue. There will be many who survive the tribulation without taking the mark of the beast. If this were not true, who will be left on Earth to be ruled by Christ during the millenial Kingdom? Keep in mind the believers in Christ have been taken to be with him in the clouds, so at that point, there will be no Christians left - only the uncommitted.
The 144,000 are sealed because otherwise the angels would kill them with the plagues of Gods wrath... since the 144,000 are sealed at the same time as the gathering together happens is why we see our FIRST mention of a great multitude in heaven just after at Rev 7:9
If you read the scripture correctly, the 144,000 are sealed with the "name of God" as His (Rev 14:1). There is no other explanation nor reason, they are simply His - they are His "redeemed." Additionally, the thought that they are sealed to keep the angels from harming them is premature because at the opening of the sixth seal, the four angels are commanded to hold off from harming the land and sea until they are sealed. Note the "land and sea" would be harmed - not people. The rest of your comment about the gathering together cannot be substantiated and is only your opinion, although it is an interesting concept.
rev 6;12-17 is Christ being revealed at the right hand of power
Probably not the right reference as this scripture talks about a great earthquake, the heavens being rolled up like a scroll, etc)
rev 7:1-8 is the 144,000 sealed and 9 christians in heaven.... Gods wrath as mentioned in 6:17 is poured out at 8:7...... the 144,000 preach Jesus Christ to the fleeing jews to the wilderness....
Just to clarify, Rev 7:1-8 is where the 144,000 are sealed.
Rev 7:9 is referencing the multitude who come out of the great tribulation - inferred but not identified as Christians.
Rev 6:17 is where the reference to the Day of God's wrath beginning is and
Rev 8:7 is where the trumpets of his wrath begin sounding.
I have no problem with your loose translation but I must admit I did have a few concerns when you referenced "9 christians in heaven"
However, I would like you to quote chapter and verse where it says anything about the 144,000 preaching Jesus to anyone, let alone the fleeing Jews. The assertion you make is not supported by scripture and is a false teaching. In fact the 144,000 are mentioned in only two pertinent passages: The first in Rev 7:3-8(where they are sealed) and again at Rev 14:1-5(where they sing a new song and are described as virgins with no guile, among other things). They are the redeemed with a job to serve the Lamb, nothing more, nothing less.
IMHO
TRUTH BE TOLD replies: why do you suppose the jews flee for? To be told of Christ the messiah
Why do you suppose the jews flee and are protected just before the 144,000 servants of Christ are sealed and then what stand around?
These jews have seen Jesus gather his sheep and the 144,000 seal and all these things (every eye will see Rev 1:7) and this is when they the natural branch will be grafted back into the vine...
