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The New Jerusalem

The problem is that this is not your house.
I don't have a "house", moderator. All my forums and my social media platforms are given to God as it should be. He is the Head there as it should be. But here where you "robbed God" of being the Head and became it yourself everything is now showing the lack of God being the Head here.
House is an analogy for this site, which does not belong to you and was used to reflect how you should comport yourself and respect it as such.
Whether you can truly make a representative statement for God, rather than the Adversary, remains to be determined.

Moderator
Nick
 
I know that talks of warnings & being banned, are an abhorrence to you,
To me only or to all God's Kids and God Himself too, moderator? Is that not how the religious treated God Himself too when He walked the earth in Jesus and Rebuked them?
Warnings and knowledge of being banned is not meant to be liked. Most who join here understand the conditions by which they must adhere while here. There are always a few who do not like to be reminded of it. I do make mention of it so, that whoever they may be are given the benefit of the doubt, before receiving such consequences and may not plead ignorance.

Moderator
Nick
 
like warning or not warning a child to not touch the fire, the hope is that letting them know the consequences is sufficient that they won't get burned.
Sure. Consequences of actions are allowed by God only. Your way it that you threaten to use the fire to burn the child if he is "disobedient". That is threatening and not warning, moderator.
1 Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. 3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you. 4 The authorities are God's servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God's servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong. 5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience. Romans 13:1-5

Moderator
Nick
 
Just going to be a challenge to unpack all of what you've said here. I'll try to keep it short.

"Unpacking" is a Scriptural endeavor or a "work of iniquity", moderator?

There is no Scripture on "unpacking" and thus we accept it as a "work of iniquity". And as such it just become strife which is an evil practice done by the Baby God's when anyone participate with you, moderator. I said you can rebuke the lie in what I said or Edify us all some more if what I wrote is the Truth. Your turn, moderator. The "prophet spoke". Now the others Judge.
Unpack: analyze (something) into its component elements

The words you say will either acquit you or condemn you." Matthew 12:37

And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul's message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth. Acts 17:11

Moderator
Nick
 
Enjoy yourself, moderator. Nobody is taking that from you. I spoke and now you spoke and then all can decide for themselves which is the Truth that will give the Spiritual Growth.
So, you are not going to comment on my "unpacking" of what you have posted to see if what I have deduced about what you have shared is correct or not?

I await your answer to this question.

Moderator
Nick
 
So, you are not going to comment on my "unpacking" of what you have posted to see if what I have deduced about what you have shared is correct or not?
You seems to have missed my comment on it, moderator? I am not the one running from what you post. It seems to be rather you?
I await your answer to this question.
I always answer all your questions. And you are now dodging mine many times now. Where I asked you repeatedly why you only posted one of our private messages openly and not all of them. And why you don't want to give me permission for publishing them. Seems our Daddy, Jehovah, is correct in saying it is because of your embarrassment in evil you said in there, moderator?


John 3: 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


If this is not the reason then you can of course comment now on it and not ran again from commenting on it.
 
Unpack: analyze (something) into its component elements
So no Scripture then on that endeavor of you, moderator. Except it being Rebuked as a work of Iniquity in it being strife? Where we are commanded not to enter it.

2 Tim. 2: 14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging thembefore the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
The words you say will either acquit you or condemn you." Matthew 12:37
Yep. And so it did, moderator. You did neither a Scriptural Rebuke and neither an Edifying. Just a work of iniquity.

Mat. 7:
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 ¶Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
House is an analogy for this site, which does not belong to you and was used to reflect how you should comport yourself and respect it as such.
Sure. It belongs to you and the other mods. And not to God. He is "kicked of His Throne here". Which is totally different from "my forums and social media" which all belongs to God and all are welcome for ever. With no threats nor bans. Because with God ruling there He is only doing Rebuking in Wisdom. And it is perfectly enough. As this forum which exists now for already 14 years shows.
Whether you can truly make a representative statement for God, rather than the Adversary, remains to be determined.
And who is "determining" in here. You, moderator and not God?
Warnings and knowledge of being banned is not meant to be liked.
Amen. Not even God like it. He rules in His own Authority which He also gave to Solomon to do. Without any laws. And to all God's Children the "law should be detested". Those depending on the law are the "least esteemed in the church".

1 Cor. 6:
1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
Most who join here understand the conditions by which they must adhere while here.
Sure. And that we all do, moderator. Just as Jesus did it. Obeying to not offend but teaching the Truth about it.

Mat. 17:
24 ¶And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?
25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.
There are always a few who do not like to be reminded of it.
Nobody Loves a "boss" moderator. They are only respected for as long as God wants us to do it. In South Africa the "ugliness" of "the boss" manifested in the apartheid regime. Where all the whites enjoyed being "boss". Being called it and enjoying their authority over their slaves.
1 Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.
Sure, moderator. And because Ukrainian didn't accept it they are dying like flies. This is what not many understood in Revelation. That an evil system given to Lucifer should be submitted to.

Eph. 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

And that is why all the earth is waiting on their Saving with the Authority of Jesus coming to Rule in Love. Where Wisdom is His Ability and Rebuking His Power. Where it manifests in "walking the second mile" as I am doing in here.

Rom. 8:
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
isn't it interesting that this verse completely disappears when Hitler is mentioned.
Amen, Brother. Or Putin these days. Or Hamas. So many deaths could have been avoided when all submitted to God's Authorities. Like Jesus under the Roman Empire. While they didn't understand His Ruling Authority but wanted Him to save them from the Roman Empire. And He did. He created God's Love for the Romans in their hearts. And they were totally saved in Perfection. But these days we don't want to Love Putin and Hamas. And suffer the consequences of it. In dying like flies.
 
There are a number of things that happen before the New Jerusalem appears. There is a timeline.

First you have the Great Tribulation, (Rev 6 to 17)
Then you have Jesus coming back to conquer the nations the first time. ( Rev 14:17-20, Rev 19:11-12 )
Then you have the millennial reign. ( Rev 20:1-6 )
Then you have post millennial rebellion, and final defeat of Satan ( Rev 20:7-10)
Then you have the resurrection of the unsaved and the great white throne judgment (Rev 20:11-15)
A pretty big event, is that there will be a New heaven, and a new Earth. The old ones will pass away.
There won't be a sea on the New Earth. ( Rev 21:1 , Matt 5:18, Matt 24:35, Mark 13:31, Luke 16:17, Luke 21:33, 2Pet 3:10 )

These are all pretty major events, they will be hard to miss. Then finally 'AFTER' all of these things.

Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.
Rev 21:2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,

This doesn't happen until there is a new heaven and new earth. The New Jerusalem won't be some nebulous spiritual shangra-la.
It will be a real physical place with physical dimensions. Spiritual places don't have physical dimensions.

Rev 21:15 The one who spoke with me had a gold measuring rod to measure the city, and its gates and its wall.
Rev 21:16 The city is laid out as a square, and its length is as great as the width; and he measured the city with the rod, fifteen hundred miles; its length and width and height are equal.
Rev 21:17 And he measured its wall, seventy-two yards, according to human measurements, which are also angelic measurements.

Once all this is done, Jesus hands the keys of the kingdom back to the Father.

1Cor 15:24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.
1Cor 15:25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.
1Cor 15:26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death.
1Cor 15:27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.
1Cor 15:28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

None of this has happened yet.
 
During the millennial reign when Jesus is reigning, there won't be any nonsense, false religions, wokeism, satanism.
Buddhism, Islam, Mormonism, Hinduism, will all be gone.

Psa 2:9 'You shall break them with a rod of iron, You shall shatter them like earthenware.'"
Rev 2:27 AND HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON, AS THE VESSELS OF THE POTTER ARE BROKEN TO PIECES, as I also have received authority from My Father;
Rev 12:5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.
Rev 19:15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.
 
So, you are not going to comment on my "unpacking" of what you have posted to see if what I have deduced about what you have shared is correct or not?
You seems to have missed my comment on it, moderator? I am not the one running from what you post. It seems to be rather you?
On the suitcase you have commented but not on the contents which was more important.
Stop avoiding, and answer what was presented to you here or peruse you are unable to, but if such is the case say so.
So, I repeat answer what was unpacked.

I always answer all your questions.
The devils a liar, so take care what you say.

For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:44

Where I asked you repeatedly why you only posted one of our private messages openly and not all of them. And why you don't want to give me permission for publishing them. Seems our Daddy, Jehovah, is correct in saying it is because of your embarrassment in evil you said in there, moderator?
This is the last PM (below links) that was sent by both of us, and it was published by me for all to see!
Now read my last comment above again, that you might gain understanding. By the way you also "liked" the PM below, so you must have agreed with what you said it contained but now insinuate it as being "evil". So, please say that it is not so that you "liked" the PM, so though unlike you who snap picture everything, we will both know who the liar is.

I am also sure you will only present that which also supports your position, and will leave out context, whether here or elsewhere which in truth is lying by omission, which you do consistently.


Moderator
Nick

Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. John 14:6
 
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