The Shack - Book and DVD

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1 Corinthians 6:12
(AMPC) Everything is permissible (allowable and lawful) for me; but not all things are helpful (good for me to do, expedient and profitable when considered with other things). Everything is lawful for me, but I will not become the slave of anything or be brought under its power.
(ASV) All things are lawful for me; but not all things are expedient. All things are lawful for me; but I will not be brought under the power of any.
(BBE) I am free to do all things; but not all things are wise. I am free to do all things; but I will not let myself come under the power of any.
(CEV) Some of you say, "We can do anything we want to." But I tell you that not everything is good for us. So I refuse to let anything have power over me.
(CSB) “Everything is permissible for me,” but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissible for me,” but I will not be mastered by anything.
(ESV) “All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be dominated by anything.
(GNB) Someone will say, "I am allowed to do anything." Yes; but not everything is good for you. I could say that I am allowed to do anything, but I am not going to let anything make me its slave.
(Greek NT TR+) πανταG3956 A-NPN μοιG1473 P-1DS εξεστινG1832 V-PAI-3S αλλG235 CONJ ουG3756 PRT-N πανταG3956 A-NPN συμφερειG4851 V-PAI-3S πανταG3956 A-NPN μοιG1473 P-1DS εξεστινG1832 V-PAI-3S αλλG235 CONJ ουκG3756 PRT-N εγωG1473 P-1NS εξουσιασθησομαιG1850 V-FPI-1S υποG5259 PREP τινοςG5100 X-GSN
(GW) Someone may say, "I'm allowed to do anything," but not everything is helpful. I'm allowed to do anything, but I won't allow anything to gain control over my life.
(HCSB) "Everything is permissible for me," but not everything is helpful. "Everything is permissible for me," but I will not be brought under the control of anything.
(KJV) All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
(MKJV) All things are lawful to me, but not all things profit. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
(MSG) Just because something is technically legal doesn't mean that it's spiritually appropriate. If I went around doing whatever I thought I could get by with, I'd be a slave to my whims.
(NAS77) All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything.
(NAS95) All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything.
(NIrV) Some of you say, "Everything is permitted for me." But not everything is good for me. Again some of you say, "Everything is permitted for me." But I will not be controlled by anything.
(NIV) "I have the right to do anything," you say—but not everything is beneficial. "I have the right to do anything"—but I will not be mastered by anything.
(NKJV) All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
(NLT) You say, “I am allowed to do anything”—but not everything is good for you. And even though “I am allowed to do anything,” I must not become a slave to anything.
(RV) All things are lawful for me; but not all things are expedient. All things are lawful for me; but I will not be brought under the power of any.

I suppose it's lawful to go back to being a slave if you really want to. But why would you want to?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Has anyone Read the book 'The Shack'?

Yes

And/or watched the DVD?

NO

It is a truly amazing story of a Christian family when life was turned upside down by unexpected issues and how God helped and led them through them to eventually find peace.

It's a mixture of GOD stuff, and Questionable stuff, and skates DANGEROUSLY close to "Universalism" without actually falling over the edge. I wouldn't build a "theology" on it, but it does have some good points.

 

[Brother-Paul]

Yes



NO



It's a mixture of GOD stuff, and Questionable stuff, and skates DANGEROUSLY close to "Universalism" without actually falling over the edge. I wouldn't build a "theology" on it, but it does have some good points.

I totally agree Bob, see my replies I in several other posts in the thread.

Shalom

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Has anyone Read the book 'The Shack'?

And/or watched the DVD?

The DVD is based on the International Best Seller book 'The Shack' by William Paul Young

It is a truly amazing story of a Christian family when life was turned upside down by unexpected issues and how God helped and led them through them to eventually find peace.

I don't want to say any more at this stage other than I highly recommend the book, the reason for the post is to ask who has read it or watched the DVD.

Those who have read the book or seen the film, please do not disclose the ending.

Blessings

The Shack is a well-written "Christian fiction" book by William P. Young that has sold over 20 million copies since its debut in 2007.


Due to the intense story, for most readers it causes a flood of emotions to well up inside, masking the theological errors throughout the book.


We didn't recommend reading the book when we reviewed it it 2008 (1), nor do we recommend seeing the movie that is coming out in March. Here's why:


Although The Shack is a fiction book, it attempts to address significant theological issues. But the answers given to these issues are in grave Biblical error. And more often than not, these errors go undetected by most Christians. Here are some of them...


The Shack presents an unbiblical picture of God: God the Father is personified by a large black lady named Papa.


I could stop there, as most Believers see the blasphemous problems with making God into a woman-which basically is goddess worship. But there's much more.


The Bible never teaches that God the Father takes on a physical form. Just the opposite.


"God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." John 4:24


"...who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see." 1Tim. 6:16


Even though God the Father is shown to possess both male and female attributes, the Bible always refers to God in the masculine gender, never female.


On page 95, "Papa" has scars in her hands. But, of course, only Christ bore the sins of the world. God the Father rendered judgment to His Son.


The Shack presents an unbiblical picture of the Holy Spirit: God the Holy Spirit is personified by an Asian woman. But the Holy Spirit never appears as a person, much less a woman, and is always referred to in the masculine gender.


The Shack presents an unbiblical picture of Jesus: Jesus of The Shack is not Jesus of the Bible!


"...for God is not a God of confusion..." 1Cor. 14:33


There are several verses in the Bible where Jesus exercised His headship, His divine attributes. But on pages 99-100 it says, "Jesus as a human being had no power within himself to heal anyone." And this is, of course, 100% false. Jesus was 100% God and 100% man.


The Shack presents an unbiblical picture of the Trinity: The Shack presents all three members of the Trinity in human form, but the Bible shows only Jesus taking human form.


The Shack says on page 122-124 that the Trinity is all equal, that they don't relate to each other within a hierarchy. But the Bible says clearly that God sent His Son. The Son did not send Himself. So while the members of the Trinity are all equal, there is also a divine order of headship and submission, which is hierarchy.


"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; John 6:44


"But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ." 1Cor. 11:3


The Shack presents an unbiblical picture of salvation: The Shack suggests there is more than one way to be saved. Basically, it teaches pluralism. The book states on page 182, with regards to salvation:


"Those who love me come from every system that exists. They are Buddhists or Mormons... Muslims,"


The Bible disagrees:


"Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.'" John 14:6


While it IS possible that a Mormon or Muslim could get saved, they wouldn't stay in the Mormon or Muslim faith. But The Shack suggests that those in the faith are indistinguishable ... no difference. Even adding:


"I have no desire to make them Christian."


And then it goes on to say:


"Does that mean all roads will lead to you?"


To which Jesus says:


"Most roads don't lead anywhere."


Of course, the Jesus of the Bible disagrees:


"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it." Matt. 7:13


"Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.'" John 14:6


Yet The Shack doesn't tell people they should seek the only way to avoid eternal damnation--believing Jesus was God, came to earth, lived a sinless life, was crucified, and defeated death by rising from the dead.


The Shack presents an unbiblical picture of your relationship with God: Throughout the book, The Shack places an emphasis on your "relationship" with God while downplaying proper doctrine. But how can you have a true relationship with God without scripturally understanding God's truth as revealed in His Word?


"...until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ." Eph. 4:13


The Shack embraces Pantheism: Pantheism is the false teaching that God is everything and everything is God. Trees, rocks, animals, the sun, pets, people...are all gods. But even though God may live in a person or be present in a rock, that doesn't mean He is a person or a rock.


Don't confuse this with God being "omnipresent." God is not immersed in the fabric of everything, God is present in all time and space. Noted New Ager Benjamin Creme wrote in his book, "The Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom":


But eventually a new world religion will be inaugurated which will be a fusion and synthesis of the approach of the East and the approach of the West. The Christ will bring together, not simply Christianity and Buddhism, but the concept of God transcendent-outside of His creation-and also the concept of God immanent in all creation-in man and all creation. p. 88


The Shack also teaches the New Age principle that "God is in everything."


"God, who is the ground of all being, dwells in, around, and through all things." p. 112


This is the same garbage that Rick Warren teaches in his blasphemous "The Purpose Driven Life":


"He rules everything and is everywhere and is in everything." p. 88


If pantheism were true, it would not be a sin to worship the sun, moon or stars because they would, in fact, be God. But the Bible forbids it.


"You shall have no other gods before Me." Deut. 5:7


"And beware not to lift up your eyes to heaven and see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, and be drawn away and worship them and serve them..." Deut. 4:19


Funny thing, when you think about it. The same lie Satan used in the Garden of Eden, "You can be God," is still being used by Satan today!


Conclusion While a mature Believer may be able to read the fiction book and/or watch the fiction movie without being compromised, we believe that the dangerous theological errors in The Shack are from the pit of hell.


Reading and/or seeing The Shack movie by a mature Believer could expose less mature Believers to major Biblical error. What could have been an interesting story is actually playing with fire (i.e. Satan), which is never acceptable.


"Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour." 1Pet. 5:8

 

[Sue D.]

I have the book and read it -- it's very thought-provoking. Wonderful. And, at times, intense. But worth the reading.

@Admon -- considering your views of Christian fiction -- I'm surprised you're picking it apart like you are.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

I have the book and read it -- it's very thought-provoking. Wonderful. And, at times, intense. But worth the reading.

@Admon -- considering your views of Christian fiction -- I'm surprised you're picking it apart like you are.

Try reading it in light of the Word...not just a story

 

[Sue D.]

But it IS just a story -- Christian fiction. Very thought-provoking reading. Literature doesn't have to be Bible-based to be read and inspiring. The Pilgrim's Progress would be a good example.