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This Grace in Which We Stand

Sue J Love

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“Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God. And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance; and perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope; and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.” (Romans 5:1-5 NASB’95)

To truly understand what this is saying it is good if we can break it down somewhat by words which are critical to us having true understanding of the message being spoken. For example, what is faith? In a biblical sense, in relationship to our faith in Jesus Christ, which comes from God, and which is gifted to us by God, it means for us to be persuaded of God. And God persuades us as to his holiness and righteousness, and of our sinfulness, and of our need to die to sin and to now walk in obedience to his commands.

And to be justified by such faith means that we now meet with God’s judicial approval because, by biblical faith in Jesus, which is not of human flesh, but of God, and is gifted to us by God, we are now being conformed by God to a proper standard of what is upright, honest, faithful, morally pure, and obedient to our Lord and to his commands. For such faith as this will result in us being crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with him to walk in newness of life in him, no longer as slaves to sin, but as slaves to God.

And we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ because our faith in Jesus is by God’s design and not according to our human flesh. For Jesus said that if anyone would come after him, he must deny self, take up his cross daily (die daily to sin) and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to our lives of living in sin and for self, we will lose them for eternity. But if we deny self, and we put sin to death daily, by the Spirit, and we are walking in obedience to our Lord, then we have the hope of eternal life with God.

And what is this grace in which we stand, as true followers of Jesus Christ? It was the grace of God which sent Jesus Christ to die on that cross and to put our sins to death with him so that, by faith in him, we will die to sin and obey our Lord’s commands, in practice. And God’s grace, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce (say “NO!” to) ungodliness and worldly passions and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives, in the power of God, by his Spirit, while we wait for our Lord’s return.

[Matthew 7:21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 1:12-13; John 6:44; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:23-31; Hebrews 12:1-2]

But this is NOT what is primarily being taught as the gospel of our salvation here in America in 2025. Slowly, over the course of many years, the true gospel, as taught in the Scriptures, has been being destroyed one step at a time, slowly diluting and altering the truth of the gospel message to make it more attractive and less offensive to human flesh and to the ungodly. And one piece at a time the majority seem to have adopted this altered gospel message which does not call for death to sin and obedience to our Lord.

And because of this, many people are believing the lies of Satan instead of the truth of God, convinced that their sins are forgiven, and that they are on their way to heaven, but regardless of how they live, and despite the fact that they are still living in deliberate and habitual sin, and not in walks of obedience to our Lord and to his commands. For they have been indoctrinated to accept the lies as the truth, and to reject the truth, as though the truth is the lie, for they are listening to human flesh, not to God.

So, if you are someone who is teaching the gospel message that Jesus taught, and that his New Testament apostles taught, in its fulness, in the proper biblical context, and not out of context, and so you are teaching that, by faith in Jesus, we must die with him to sin and now walk with him in obedience to his commands, in practice, as empowered by God, or we will not have salvation from sin and eternal life with God guaranteed, then you will face some persecution from certain others professing faith in Jesus.

And this is not speaking of any of us having to live in absolute sinless perfection, as many would have you believe. God divides his true followers from those who are not his followers by profession of faith in Jesus Christ, by our deeds. For it is by our deeds that all of us are going to be judged by God at the end of time. If dying with Christ to sin and walking in obedience to his commands are what we practice, we have eternal life with God. But if sin is what we practice, and not obedience, then we will die in our sins, instead.

And if we are among the few in number who are walking the narrow road, which is hard, which leads to life, and which few are traveling, and so we are not on the broad road, which is easy, which leads to death, which the majority are traveling, and if we who are on this narrow road are leading others to also be on this narrow road, we are going to be persecuted, rejected, cast aside as unwanted, rebuked, scorned, and abused. But tribulation is for our good, to mature us in our walks of obedience to God.

[Matthew 5:10-12; Matthew 7:13-14; Matthew 10:16-39; Matthew 24:9-14; Luke 6:22-23; Luke 21:12-17; John 15:18-21; John 17:14; Romans 5:3-5; Philippians 3:7-11; 1 Peter 1:6-7; 1 Peter 4:12-17; 2 Timothy 3:12; 1 Thessalonians 3:1-5; James 1:2-4; 2 Corinthians 1:3-11; Hebrews 12:3-12; 1 John 3:13; Revelation 6:9-11; Revelation 7:9-17; Revelation 11:1-3; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 13:1-18; Revelation 14:1-13]

All Through the Night

Based off Various Scriptures

Blessed are you when you’re persecuted
Because of your faith in Jesus Christ.
Blessed are you when people insult you,
And falsely say what leads folks to doubt.
Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is
Great in the heavens. You’re not alone.

When you are persecuted in one place,
Flee to another. God will be there.
You will be hated by all the nations
Because you testify of God’s grace.
Many will seize you and persecute you,
And put to death the foll’wers of Christ.

Yet do not fear what humans may do to you,
For I’m with you all through the night.
I tell you, love your enemies with my love,
And forgive as I forgave you.
Pray for those who do evil against you.
Rest in my love and grace from above.

An Original Work / December 7, 2013
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love



This Grace in Which We Stand
An Original Work / April 8, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
 
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