True Prophets vs False Prophets (Can a true prophet of God be wrong?)

[Garee]

Here's how you know:

True prophets are not found in churches.

I would offer. we should be carefull how we hear or say we hear the word of God (prophecy)

True prophets are those who declare the good will or gospel of another. . . not seen.. They as messengers make up the church the bride of Christ. . He sends them out two by two .

The word “two” is used to represent the witness of God the eternal which is greater than the witness of man the temporal . . The greater witness is“Prophecy”.

How beautiful are their feet shod with the gospel .They can plant the incorruptible seed of the word by which men are born again from above. . . and water it with the doctrines of God. But they are considered as nothing without him who forms Christ is us.

Seeds need spirit life to grow. He must increase as we decrease.

It is one reason I would say to look to the foundation of the word. Change the meaning, change the finger of authority. Prophecy is one word as well as the word apostle they seem to have lost something. . . that is if we look to the end of the matter. Some do venerate them.

1 Corinthians 3:5-7 King James Version (KJV) Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

I would think Christians have the privilege of Christ washing our feet sending many out two by two, male or female. . I would think there could be many apostles on this forum with a motherly hen love .

Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

 

[B-A-C]

I know this thread is really about can a prophet make a mistake. Can a prophet prophesy something that doesn't come to pass.

But what is a prophet?

Someone who is inspired to speak on God's behalf. A messenger to people on God's behalf.

So then, if a foretelling (supposedly from God) doesn't come to pass, was it really from God?
Prophecy isn't always a foretelling of the future. Sometimes it's simply preaching the right word, to the right people, at the right time.

If I look on the internet, out on YouTube, there are dozens of videos about who is a false prophet. It seems everybody is false prophet.
I can type in almost any well known preacher, and someone says they are a false prophet or a false teacher. Yet the Bible gives us some passages
to tell us exactly what these false prophets and wolves will teach. The simple fact is, most of these videos about who is a false prophet, don't meet the requirements of the test.

So who does the Bible say is a false prophet? It's not only those who gave a foretelling that didn't happen, but it's the message they are giving to people.
Yes there are those prophets who foretold Donald Trump would be elected president for a second term. It hasn't happened yet.
So then they change their prophecy, well it might not happen on election night, but it'll happen before January 20th, well that didn't happen either.
So they change it again, it might not be by January 20th, but'll be within 90 days, well that didn't happen either.
Being wrong once is one thing. being wrong over and over and over again is another. Changing your prophecy every week costs you credibility.

The entire book of Jude (it's only one chapter) gives us examples of what a false prophet or false teacher would say.
2Peter chapter 2 also gives us an example of what those false teachings look like.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

The OP said he was not focusing on the politics in this thread but if nobody minds? Many prophesied that Trump would win...Were they wrong? NO they were not...Trump won hands down. So then What happened? Not enough Christians standing in prayer for their country? What?
If you feel that this question would sidetrack the thread, please...Ignore it.

 

[twcstp111]

Indeed, the moment any 'prophet' makes any claim about any future occasion without showing forth understanding and wisdom, this is the moment that I forever forget their face.

Real prophets do not make 'Prophecy' to people, they teach LAWS to people, and show forth uprightness. That IS a true prophet, and perhaps I was wrong--these men and women are found in churches, but on rare occasion, and, these prophets also do not just teach 'LAWS' but they teach them according to the circumstance and the environment rather then dumping the whole truck on people at the same time. They're special people, knowing that the same doctrine has traps for devils.

 

[Rossignol]

Jesus was real specific on who the False Prophets are:
Matthew 7:13-15

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

The false prophets won't prophesy of being in the narrow gate to Life, they'll keep you in the wide gate to death-
Because that's where they dwell.

John 8:12 He that follows me shall not walk in darkness (wide gate) but shall have the light of life (by narrow gate).

 

[Bill]

Here's how you know:

True prophets are not found in churches.

Prophets are found everywhere.

Many dont even know God is using them as a prophet

 

[Bill]

Indeed, the moment any 'prophet' makes any claim about any future occasion without showing forth understanding and wisdom, this is the moment that I forever forget their face.

Real prophets do not make 'Prophecy' to people, they teach LAWS to people, and show forth uprightness. That IS a true prophet, and perhaps I was wrong--these men and women are found in churches, but on rare occasion, and, these prophets also do not just teach 'LAWS' but they teach them according to the circumstance and the environment rather then dumping the whole truck on people at the same time. They're special people, knowing that the same doctrine has traps for devils.

I have to tell you. Prophets do much more than you know. And with your fixed thinking , it would not be difficult for for any prophet to walk right by you, as you will never see them as one.

A prophet is a person who either knows the Spirit is moving in them or is completely oblivious to it. God uses people how He sees fit, but not in a way Christians or Humans expect them to be.

Of all people on the planet , Christians are the ones who need the saving the most. God will not condemn people who do not know Him. But the Christians , the ones who have been given so much , are the very people who condemn everyone else.

( i know there are a few of you that dont, and the Pleases God )

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Prophets are found everywhere.

Many dont even know God is using them as a prophet

Friend, you need to be learning, not teaching. You're not ready to teach yet

 

[twcstp111]

I have to tell you. Prophets do much more than you know. And with your fixed thinking , it would not be difficult for for any prophet to walk right by you, as you will never see them as one.

A prophet is a person who either knows the Spirit is moving in them or is completely oblivious to it. God uses people how He sees fit, but not in a way Christians or Humans expect them to be.

Of all people on the planet , Christians are the ones who need the saving the most. God will not condemn people who do not know Him. But the Christians , the ones who have been given so much , are the very people who condemn everyone else.

( i know there are a few of you that dont, and the Pleases God )

Who fixed my thinking in place, considering that an insult comes at me by so many christian over the slightest stumble in words or the hint of an occasion?

This is why I do not see those who put themselves in high offices as priests, but I see priests as those who are even the common people that we meet day in and day out--a smile, a good word, a graceful act--to me, these people shine, but should I speak of the damage I took when I entered the christian world and saw the disgusting table from which people were feeding others' spirits? I walked away from vengeance I did not know till I saw real false prophets for the first time, and friend, I do know the true ministers of the word--but you are correct, I may not know a true prophet when they are near me. However, I have determined that knowing such things is useless, but that it is more important to know who is false because their poison is worse than much of the sin written in the scriptures.

 

[Bill]

Who fixed my thinking in place, considering that an insult comes at me by so many christian over the slightest stumble in words or the hint of an occasion?

This is why I do not see those who put themselves in high offices as priests, but I see priests as those who are even the common people that we meet day in and day out--a smile, a good word, a graceful act--to me, these people shine, but should I speak of the damage I took when I entered the christian world and saw the disgusting table from which people were feeding others' spirits? I walked away from vengeance I did not know till I saw real false prophets for the first time, and friend, I do know the true ministers of the word--but you are correct, I may not know a true prophet when they are near me. However, I have determined that knowing such things is useless, but that it is more important to know who is false because their poison is worse than much of the sin written in the scriptures.

Priests and Pastors aught to be the Servants of God.

A person who tells me what a Prophet of God does , and then limits the Prophet to only a few things , has no idea what a Prophet does.

It is because of this, your thinking is limited . Understand , God has no limits. And what God chooses His Prophets to do are also limitless.

Look at what Scripture says about the Two Witnesses. They are the Two Prophets of God.

They can unleash any type of plague as often as they wish

 

[twcstp111]

Priests and Pastors aught to be the Servants of God.

A person who tells me what a Prophet of God does , and then limits the Prophet to only a few things , has no idea what a Prophet does.

It is because of this, your thinking is limited . Understand , God has no limits. And what God chooses His Prophets to do are also limitless.

Look at what Scripture says about the Two Witnesses. They are the Two Prophets of God.

They can unleash any type of plague as often as they wish

Yes, I also can see with my eyes the Assyrians and Israel, and I know Moses and I know Jesus.

I have not limited my thinking, but I have shaved it and sealed it for your sake and for their sake, and I have made a covenant with my self to not disrupt the balance which has been established through the cross of Christ even though the same cross was on my back. I will tell you this, I have not killed a single soul nor body, and I have brought none in the land of the living nor the land of the dead into captivity. I am not ignorant of the work being done even this day, neither am I unable to distinguish eternal stars and temporary ones. It's not like I don't know how to bring a person spiritually dead back to life, or send a living one to their death. It is better for a man like myself to not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, because doing so could disrupt a balance that is necessary in our present day. I have no interest nor will in the powers or principles which give men just and not so an ability to walk on the sea and change the flow of winds.

My concern is neither God nor the Kingdom of Heaven, but the whole world and our entire species collectively. I do not have limited thinking at all, rather the contrary, my ability to understand is unusually receptive and capable, both to physical things and spiritual things, and so, I do not move from my place. If the life that I have presents to me the opportunity and wisdom I seek to build the tree that I wish to leave here, then I will do so without putting it above another tree, but by putting it alongside the way without disrupting the way.

I will only plant one kind of unique tree in my lifetime if the window opens up and calls me to do so.

 

[twcstp111]

#1
A person who tells me what a Prophet of God does , and then limits the Prophet to only a few things , has no idea what a Prophet does.


#2
They can unleash any type of plague as often as they wish

It is precisely these things which scourge me. Why ought a man be exposed to things of lower realms when the sacrifices of millions have already entered us into higher realms? Why should I be so capable even as to stop spiritual plagues from scorching humans, having already been wounded by them? My spirit does not forget the nature of those things that strike it, but the worst of it were those chains which were not even my own. I am grateful however, because I have become strong enough to deliver people if the time calls for it. What I have seen from prophets, however, and the history of prophets over the course of the previous two thousand years is a darkness which I did not deserve to see, but I was counted worthy to bear it, and so I did.

I see true prophets as people like you or I, people common and uncommon, neither high nor low, some much lower and others much higher--it is their heart which communicates with God, and by their spirit, whether in transgression or in virtue, their work can be accomplished in plain sight and none can comprehend it, neither you, nor me. It is those who call themselves prophets or receive the tittle and then change in their way who carry dangerous spirits which are fearful and to be feared for the calamity they can bring about and the power they hold over the winds of the sea. I fear these men, and though they cannot hurt me, I fear that they can hurt you and others whom I may not be able to protect because I cannot be in more than one place at a given time.

It is for these reasons that the teachings in the scriptures must be understood properly, otherwise the water becomes as poison which can harm gentle, humble spirits, by exposing them to contentious and conflicting spirits.

I learn as I communicate, even now, and I give others this same opportunity. I think we all have a long way to go, after all, our journeys are often many years.

 

[Bill]

Yes, I also can see with my eyes the Assyrians and Israel, and I know Moses and I know Jesus.

I have not limited my thinking, but I have shaved it and sealed it for your sake and for their sake, and I have made a covenant with my self to not disrupt the balance which has been established through the cross of Christ even though the same cross was on my back. I will tell you this, I have not killed a single soul nor body, and I have brought none in the land of the living nor the land of the dead into captivity. I am not ignorant of the work being done even this day, neither am I unable to distinguish eternal stars and temporary ones. It's not like I don't know how to bring a person spiritually dead back to life, or send a living one to their death. It is better for a man like myself to not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, because doing so could disrupt a balance that is necessary in our present day. I have no interest nor will in the powers or principles which give men just and not so an ability to walk on the sea and change the flow of winds.

My concern is neither God nor the Kingdom of Heaven, but the whole world and our entire species collectively. I do not have limited thinking at all, rather the contrary, my ability to understand is unusually receptive and capable, both to physical things and spiritual things, and so, I do not move from my place. If the life that I have presents to me the opportunity and wisdom I seek to build the tree that I wish to leave here, then I will do so without putting it above another tree, but by putting it alongside the way without disrupting the way.

I will only plant one kind of unique tree in my lifetime if the window opens up and calls me to do so.

May Our Lord Jesus fill us with His Love

My friend , you are not as perceptive as you are saying. The reason is, it isnt up to you to worry about " the balance " for the Kingdom of God . As if there ever was a balance .

The New Age movement teaches such things , of a balance between good and evil as if they were " equal " partners in a cosmic dance.

Only the father of lies teaches such things. As there is no such thing .

 

[Garee]

Priests and Pastors aught to be the Servants of God.

A person who tells me what a Prophet of God does , and then limits the Prophet to only a few things , has no idea what a Prophet does.

It is because of this, your thinking is limited . Understand , God has no limits. And what God chooses His Prophets to do are also limitless.

Look at what Scripture says about the Two Witnesses. They are the Two Prophets of God.

They can unleash any type of plague as often as they wish

Prophets or apostles those sent with prophecy have no power to release any thing other than the word of God, as it is wriiten . False prophets add to the word of God or subtract from it .

Its the words of prophecy which are not of the prophet .the words can perfom the will of God. A prophet is one that prophesies or declare the will .They do not have the power to cary it out .That belongs to God alone.

 

[twcstp111]

May Our Lord Jesus fill us with His Love

My friend , you are not as perceptive as you are saying. The reason is, it isnt up to you to worry about " the balance " for the Kingdom of God . As if there ever was a balance .

The New Age movement teaches such things , of a balance between good and evil as if they were " equal " partners in a cosmic dance.

Only the father of lies teaches such things. As there is no such thing .

How is it for you to tell me that something which affects me does not concern me, and that is the reason I am not perceptive?

I tell you there is a balance, in every place, whether you perceive it or not. I am not here to make argument with you, but to learn even as you are here to do, no?

 

[twcstp111]

May Our Lord Jesus fill us with His Love

My friend , you are not as perceptive as you are saying. The reason is, it isnt up to you to worry about " the balance " for the Kingdom of God . As if there ever was a balance .

The New Age movement teaches such things , of a balance between good and evil as if they were " equal " partners in a cosmic dance.

Only the father of lies teaches such things. As there is no such thing .

Oh, new age stuff, yeah, well, I don't follow any of that--everything I know I learn through my own will and in books already written, from others, and not from some dusty knock-off of governmental law and order. I judge all things that come into my mind, and I choose according to my will and my spirit what is and what is not, regardless of the words of any book. However, things which are sanctified, I give them their sanctity, things that are honorable, the same, and so forth.

In the first place, I NEVER said anything about the balance between good and evil. I said there is a balance, but you never asked me of what.

 

[Brad Huber]

Oh, new age stuff, yeah, well, I don't follow any of that--everything I know I learn through my own will and in books already written, from others, and not from some dusty knock-off of governmental law and order. I judge all things that come into my mind, and I choose according to my will and my spirit what is and what is not, regardless of the words of any book. However, things which are sanctified, I give them their sanctity, things that are honorable, the same, and so forth.

In the first place, I NEVER said anything about the balance between good and evil. I said there is a balance, but you never asked me of what.

LOL, okay then, a balance of what? I agree with bill, God is the only one IMO that decides what balancing is needed, grace with judgement sort of balance, just being one.

 

[Brad Huber]

Balance between what?

 

[twcstp111]

Balance between what?

a balance between law and spirit, water and fire.

these are your two lamp stands.

 

[Bill]

It is precisely these things which scourge me. Why ought a man be exposed to things of lower realms when the sacrifices of millions have already entered us into higher realms? Why should I be so capable even as to stop spiritual plagues from scorching humans, having already been wounded by them? My spirit does not forget the nature of those things that strike it, but the worst of it were those chains which were not even my own. I am grateful however, because I have become strong enough to deliver people if the time calls for it. What I have seen from prophets, however, and the history of prophets over the course of the previous two thousand years is a darkness which I did not deserve to see, but I was counted worthy to bear it, and so I did.

I see true prophets as people like you or I, people common and uncommon, neither high nor low, some much lower and others much higher--it is their heart which communicates with God, and by their spirit, whether in transgression or in virtue, their work can be accomplished in plain sight and none can comprehend it, neither you, nor me. It is those who call themselves prophets or receive the tittle and then change in their way who carry dangerous spirits which are fearful and to be feared for the calamity they can bring about and the power they hold over the winds of the sea. I fear these men, and though they cannot hurt me, I fear that they can hurt you and others whom I may not be able to protect because I cannot be in more than one place at a given time.

It is for these reasons that the teachings in the scriptures must be understood properly, otherwise the water becomes as poison which can harm gentle, humble spirits, by exposing them to contentious and conflicting spirits.

I learn as I communicate, even now, and I give others this same opportunity. I think we all have a long way to go, after all, our journeys are often many years.

Father please inform twcstp there are no lower or upper realms . And explain to him why he can not stop plagues , but one who God has sent can.

Please explain to twcstp that Your Son's Words are very clear when in explaining about Your Two Witnesses, that they can dish out the plagues as often as they wish, because it was You that gave them the authority to do so.