Universalism

[Rhema]

Have I hit a nerve?

Actually, no.

Such a knee-jerk emotional response will just keep you in the dark.

That you think my reply was a "knee-jerk emotional response" is puzzling, as it was not - merely a statement of truth. Nor was my reply an assumption, as the language you used is quite clear.

The entire church has its problems.

More so than you could possibly imagine. (But I doubt you're interested.)

In a world of at least 6 billion people, you state with no evidence. "There are no native Koine Greek speakers."

The evidence is within the Greek corpus (the body of ancient Greek manuscripts). If you had wanted evidence, you could have just asked nicely.

“One man is to be given the credit for the discovery of the Koine – a German pastor named Adolf Deissmann. Even though one or two perceptive scholars had noted the true character of NT Greek as early as the middle of the nineteenth century, their statements made no impression on general opinion. Deissmann, on a visit to a friend in Marburg, found a volume of Greek papyri from Egypt, and leafing through this publication, he was struck by the similarity to the Greek of the NT. He followed up this observation with continued study, and his publications of his findings finally led to general acceptance of the position that the peculiarities of the Greek NT were, for the most part, to be explained by reference to the nonliterary Greek, the popular colloquial language of the period. He first published his results in two volumes of Bible Studies (1895, 1897) and later on in the justly popular Life from the Ancient East (1908).”​

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- The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible, pg. 486.​

Your proof of "6 billion people" could be applied to, say, ancient Mayan writing. But alas, there are no NATIVE readers of Mayan glyphs. Same with Koine Greek. NATIVE readers would have been found. And no, just because the Roman Empire lasted until 1453 (i.e. Byzantine) doesn't mean that their language hadn't morphed. If not, then you should convert to Greek Orthodox.

"I've spent 50 years reading New Testament Greek." - So? You're one person.

So was Jesus. So was Peter. So was George Washington. So was Billy Graham. What's your point. That truth is a collective majority? You may wish to think through that again. You're "one person," so how many years have you spent reading Greek? Have I spent any time studying to be an EMT? No. But unlike the people who show up when I call an ambulance, I haven't asked you to "take my word for it." I'm saying you need to step out and learn things for yourself. This bizarre belief that the KJV translators knew Koine Greek and gives you an adequate translation just exhibits ignorance.

I'm not asking anything of you but b/c you "supposedly can read the Greek" makes you better.

Have I hit a nerve? You don't think you're a better EMT than I? And as an EMT, one would hope you cherish accuracy in what you learn. If not, don't come to my door. But also don't belittle me for having put the time effort into understanding the text of the New Testament as it was actually written.

These versions have been widely accepted long before you were born.

I'm not sure if you're now being ignorant or obstinate? If you wish to bury your head in the sand, then so be it. But the truth (not a subjective collective vomit) is there for you find out if you have the gumption to seek.

Language morphs over time. Both in pronunciation and definition. I've already provided an example of the first. Here's an example of the second.

(Get off your lazy butt and watch it. )


And as I've said before, if you truly indeed want an EXCELLENT Greek word for word interlinear, I'll buy this book for you. (Seriously.)

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You can then do the comparisons for yourself.

God bless,
Rhema

A stupid person would walk away and not accept the offer of a free book that would help to enlighten them.