What can we do now before it's to late?

[dh charles]

When I was in sales, many centuries ago, I learned that one does not point out the failings of a persons 'product'. What you want to do is show them how your product is so much better. That way you are not pointing out how dumb they were for choosing it, saving their feelings, and it allows them to see a better choice...
If we stomp gays, feminists, JWs, drug users, pedophiles, whatever...all we're doing is showing them how BAD they are...Then they resent us and our gospel, and will automatically refuse it. So what do you want? Do you want people going to hell? Or do you want to see them saved and spend eternity in heaven with us and our Jesus?
Then you have a choice....Love them and see them saved, or show them contempt (hate) and let them burn.

Very good information and I will; practice it as well as feel more secure in my beliefs. No one is gong to steal them from me, DAH.. If I state my beliefs..........in the shadow of God ,,,,,,and another does not like it I will not force the issue and just politely consider the source of the other person. However, I need to be diplomatic....but not politically correct.
I think though, just between us, I am astounded by some people and their lack of common sense and how they are so off base on self honesty and are just plan devoid of accepting facts that are right in front of them. They seem to no longer care about anything higher than themselves and their linear logic.
My tremors are getting bad now so I will go for now.

 

[dh charles]

When I was in sales, many centuries ago, I learned that one does not point out the failings of a persons 'product'. What you want to do is show them how your product is so much better. That way you are not pointing out how dumb they were for choosing it, saving their feelings, and it allows them to see a better choice...
If we stomp gays, feminists, JWs, drug users, pedophiles, whatever...all we're doing is showing them how BAD they are...Then they resent us and our gospel, and will automatically refuse it. So what do you want? Do you want people going to hell? Or do you want to see them saved and spend eternity in heaven with us and our Jesus?
Then you have a choice....Love them and see them saved, or show them contempt (hate) and let them burn.

I don't understand. My reply to you that I just wrote and posted is no where to be found now, Is that normal for this site???

 

[dh charles]

I will.
I write but it keeps disappearing.. I think my tremors somehow gives the keys information to delete all???????????

Or do the moderators censor and delete post?. I am new and don't understand. Example, I replied to Benito and it is no where to be found now????? am I just wasting my time here?

 

[Bendito]

Or do the moderators censor and delete post?. I am new and don't understand. Example, I replied to Benito and it is no where to be found now????? am I just wasting my time here?

If you want dh, you could PM me and I can post it for you

 

[dh charles]

After reading a lot of post on this site I am struck how so many have so many interpretations. They seem at time to rational sin in an effort to please themselves or others. Why make loving the lord and following Him so complex. It all is meant to be simple. If a person adds to His word or the spirit of His word then days will be subtracted from ones life. Also, deluding the word will be judged one day. Not everyone is going to haven just for political correctness or just for the heck of it.............I never knew you. ....sound familiar?
What do you think?

 

[amadeus2]

After reading a lot of post on this site I am struck how so many have so many interpretations. They seem at time to rational sin in an effort to please themselves or others.

Probably as many different interpretations as there are members here. That is how man is and that is why we all need God's help.

Why make loving the lord and following Him so complex. It all is meant to be simple.

It is complex and it is also simple. It is complex when we are surveying the territory with own carnal minds. It is simple when God is clarifying the whole thing for us.

If a person adds to His word or the spirit of His word then days will be subtracted from ones life.

Some will be shortened right down to nothing. Some are probably already there and don't know. Now that would be living in a delusion.

Also, deluding the word will be judged one day. Not everyone is going to haven just for political correctness or just for the heck of it.............I never knew you. ....sound familiar?
What do you think?

If you are moving right down His road, isn't it because He is drawing you to Him and you are yielding to the tug on your heart strings? Being politically correct is one of man's ways and may please a lot of people, but if it doesn't please God what good has it done?

 

[dh charles]

Probably as many different interpretations as there are members here. That is how man is and that is why we all need God's help.



It is complex and it is also simple. It is complex when we are surveying the territory with own carnal minds. It is simple when God is clarifying the whole thing for us.



Some will be shortened right down to nothing. Some are probably already there and don't know. Now that would be living in a delusion.



If you are moving right down His road, isn't it because He is drawing you to Him and you are yielding to the tug on your heart strings? Being politically correct is one of man's ways and may please a lot of people, but if it doesn't please God what good has it done?

You I can learn from. I look forward to your and Benito conversations.
I forgot to mention; that a lot of Christians' see Jesus through a Vail od unbridle emotions. I do not. I accept HIM because HE is and not that He is made in my image.

 

[amadeus2]

I forgot to mention; that a lot of Christians' see Jesus through a Vail od unbridle emotions. I do not. I accept HIM because HE is and not that He is made in my image.

Good that you mention this. People may not say it, but too often they do act as if God is made to fit them rather than the other way around.

We can all learn from God through other believers if our hearts are open. If we don't know if our heart is open, we should ask God to help us open our heart anyway. Even if we are, or have been, open, we likely still need to be opened more yet. Are we not still capable of shutting God out?

 

[dh charles]

Good that you mention this. People may not say it, but too often they do act as if God is made to fit them rather than the other way around.

We can all learn from God through other believers if our hearts are open. If we don't know if our heart is open, we should ask God to help us open our heart anyway. Even if we are, or have been, open, we likely still need to be opened more yet. Are we not still capable of shutting God out?

It's a shame that people are not born with life wisdom at 60..;...it would hurt to much for one thing, lol. I think it is sooooooooo sickening when older people return to their own vomit. Like mentioned in 2nd Peter. By this I mean return to ignorance of youth or blind innocence.
There are 12 defense mechanisms we all grow up with to manage our personalities. So it is with the society at large. This defense mechanism is simply an attempt to go to the opposite extreme in order to effect a change. This is going on now, especially with super fems. One day men will learn to either tell them to shut up or ignore them altogether. I hope it happens soon.before they destroy all morality and common sense. What do you do when the wind does not know where it otwa blow. When then mind and body wants more more more. Go to God, that's what. As a student of social movements within my education this will come to a head ..;.if we all do not come to our senses... in August of 2041. I know that sounds over the top and I will not be here, but I feel certain of this somehow. I know other details but will not mention them.
You know what I heard today; the word MAN-UP should be sticking from our language because it sound too masculine. Have you heard anything so ridicules? When you have a Christian here opted to use grammar correction over common sense and honesty it is getting bad. It ALMOST makes you believe that women given the vote was a mistake and it make you believe that other countries may have it right by having women to wear berchas (sp). I said ALMOST, LOL.

 

[dh charles]

If you want dh, you could PM me and I can post it for you

That is sooooooooo true. As far as witnessing; there are so many little miracles in ones life that is almost impossible top relate. The other person would just say,RIGHT and then walk away. As for me and my house; we will serve the Lord.

 

[amadeus2]

@dh charles
While you have said some good words, I do wonder a little about your negative comments concerning what you have called of what you call "super fems". Very possibly some of those ladies are very strong in their beliefs and very wrong, but certainly no more wrong than some men who have been into "machismo" and they called "macho". This is a Spanish word which simply literally means "male" or maleness or manliness but it has in both Spanish and in English in many places taken on a negative meaning for men similar to the one you used for women.

God created people, both man (from the ground) and woman (from the man), but He has made it clear (to me anyway) through the scriptures that He loves them equally. He is no respecter of persons due to natural gender and since we are to be like Him, we must move in that direction.

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Gal 3:28

If a sister or a brother in the Lord seems to have moved toward this very worldly position of super feminism for the females or machismo for the males, we do need to pray for them rather than to criticize them.

 

[dh charles]

@dh charles
While you have said some good words, I do wonder a little about your negative comments concerning what you have called of what you call "super fems". Very possibly some of those ladies are very strong in their beliefs and very wrong, but certainly no more wrong than some men who have been into "machismo" and they called "macho". This is a Spanish word which simply literally means "male" or maleness or manliness but it has in both Spanish and in English in many places taken on a negative meaning for men similar to the one you used for women.

God created people, both man (from the ground) and woman (from the man), but He has made it clear (to me anyway) through the scriptures that He loves them equally. He is no respecter of persons due to natural gender and since we are to be like Him, we must move in that direction.

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Gal 3:28

If a sister or a brother in the Lord seems to have moved toward this very worldly position of super feminism for the females or machismo for the males, we do need to pray for them rather than to criticize them.

I read in the Bible that He is indeed respecter (He connotes the difference in male and female) This is about the most obvious teaching in the Bible and there is no watering it down. You know the words. I do not have to recite them to you. From the way woman is taken from man to Man is Christ were the woman represents the church....man is to die for the woman as Christ died for His church. This is the spirit of the word he left us mortals. Now, again, you know the many specific scriptures. As far as being a Jew, yes there is a Jew and there are Greeks. Remember, when I said equality exist only in Gods eyes. In case you have not noticed we are on Earth and we are mortal. In Heaven we will be equal.
Number 2; the super fem and some others influenced by them act as if they are even better than men. Just today the TV said that "They" are trying to ban the words MAN-UP as it is to masculine.
What is playing out between the sexes is a continuous replay of Lucifer trying to be equal to God. I am not say women are the devil. I am taking about the acts only.
Straight is the way and few enter. I call all this p a r t of the litmus test to see if we are fit to live in his kingdom. Remember we are all finite creatures and we do not dance to our own interpretation. Yes God tolerates this vacillation, but we are bound to be captive to our own small thoughts an action. His thoughts are just a wee bit higher than ours don't you think.
Please do not think any of my words are an offense to you. I respect you mightily.

 

[dh charles]

I read in the Bible that He is indeed respecter (He connotes the difference in male and female) This is about the most obvious teaching in the Bible and there is no watering it down. You know the words. I do not have to recite them to you. From the way woman is taken from man to Man is Christ were the woman represents the church....man is to die for the woman as Christ died for His church. This is the spirit of the word he left us mortals. Now, again, you know the many specific scriptures. As far as being a Jew, yes there is a Jew and there are Greeks. Remember, when I said equality exist only in Gods eyes. In case you have not noticed we are on Earth and we are mortal. In Heaven we will be equal.
Number 2; the super fem and some others influenced by them act as if they are even better than men. Just today the TV said that "They" are trying to ban the words MAN-UP as it is to masculine.
What is playing out between the sexes is a continuous replay of Lucifer trying to be equal to God. I am not say women are the devil. I am taking about the acts only.
Straight is the way and few enter. I call all this p a r t of the litmus test to see if we are fit to live in his kingdom. Remember we are all finite creatures and we do not dance to our own interpretation. Yes God tolerates this vacillation, but we are bound to be captive to our own small thoughts an action. His thoughts are just a wee bit higher than ours don't you think.
Please do not think any of my words are an offense to you. I respect you mightily.

If Eve indeed took a bit of apple...or whatever food..... As sure as she did the collective Eve has taken a second bite of the apple. Since then so many bad things have happen. I don't have to tell you what things are bad. Again it is all so very obvious.

 

[amadeus2]

I read in the Bible that He is indeed respecter (He connotes the difference in male and female) This is about the most obvious teaching in the Bible and there is no watering it down.

Is it obvious that God loves people and treats them equally. Any murderer, male or female, will not be pleasing God. Each person, male or female has a pathway set before him or her by God. Whether or the person takes that pathway or chooses another is up to him or her. The one who takes the right pathway, male or female, pleases God. The one who does not, displeases God. This is what it means when it says God is no respecter of persons. Our reward or our punishment or chastisement is in accord with how well we do or do not follow God's way. He does take into consideration what we know and what we do not know. He does take into consideration what He has or has not given us. For example He gave one kind of a body to a woman and another to a man. God's judgment is so fair that man cannot even completely understand it by himself.

You know the words. I do not have to recite them to you. From the way woman is taken from man to Man is Christ were the woman represents the church....man is to die for the woman as Christ died for His church. This is the spirit of the word he left us mortals. Now, again, you know the many specific scriptures. As far as being a Jew, yes there is a Jew and there are Greeks. Remember, when I said equality exist only in Gods eyes. In case you have not noticed we are on Earth and we are mortal. In Heaven we will be equal.

And what if we make it to heaven while we are still here? Consider Jesus:

"And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." John 3:13
And then the direction we should be moving now, not after they bury our bodies:

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." I John 3:2

Number 2; the super fem and some others influenced by them act as if they are even better than men. Just today the TV said that "They" are trying to ban the words MAN-UP as it is to masculine.
What is playing out between the sexes is a continuous replay of Lucifer trying to be equal to God. I am not say women are the devil. I am taking about the acts only.

I guess you haven't met many women who are on the Lord's side. I've been married to one for 43 years. When women or men step off the pathway God has for them, even for a moment then in that moment they (males and females) are against God and on the devil's side. You seem to keep pointing your finger at women more than at men, but God speaks of both them here:

"God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God.

Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one." Psalm 53:2-3

And in the NT:

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Rom 3:23

I really believe we believe in many of the same things, but sometimes we don't communicate as well as we could.

 

[dh charles]

Is it obvious that God loves people and treats them equally. Any murderer, male or female, will not be pleasing God. Each person, male or female has a pathway set before him or her by God. Whether or the person takes that pathway or chooses another is up to him or her. The one who takes the right pathway, male or female, pleases God. The one who does not, displeases God. This is what it means when it says God is no respecter of persons. Our reward or our punishment or chastisement is in accord with how well we do or do not follow God's way. He does take into consideration what we know and what we do not know. He does take into consideration what He has or has not given us. For example He gave one kind of a body to a woman and another to a man. God's judgment is so fair that man cannot even completely understand it by himself.



And what if we make it to heaven while we are still here? Consider Jesus:

"And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." John 3:13
And then the direction we should be moving now, not after they bury our bodies:

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." I John 3:2



I guess you haven't met many women who are on the Lord's side. I've been married to one for 43 years. When women or men step off the pathway God has for them, even for a moment then in that moment they (males and females) are against God and on the devil's side. You seem to keep pointing your finger at women more than at men, but God speaks of both them here:

"God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God.

Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one." Psalm 53:2-3

And in the NT:

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Rom 3:23

I really believe we believe in many of the same things, but sometimes we don't communicate as well as we could.

You are right. I am sure we believe the same thing. If we don't it does not matter .....in Gods sight We are all blessed that HE forgives peoples' ignorance IF the heart is right.

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

LOL You just dropped a heavy! Here's the thing Dh. It looks like you got burned by some feminist idiot. If so, let it go. Forgive but do not forget or you'll get burned again....As to homosexuals, well....sin is sin. Where is it worse than stealing or cursing, murder or drinking oneself to death, or gambling. Sin is sin. So you see it going on. What do you do? Pray for the person/ people involved. Talk to God about them before you talk to them about God. (LoL Yeah that cliche) God knows what is needed to draw all men to Him. You do not. You know about faith based religion,so put your faith to work for these people. Faith preachers have it right, so stick with it.

Using Gods word brings forth much of the changes we seek ! For example .....Matthew 9:38 - Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that He will send forth labourers into his harvest

Why is many beleivers simply leave this scripture lay dorment ? It is a powerful tool we should all be using. When you take this scripture and couple it with say - 2 Corinthians 1:20 -For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

AND
Mark 11:24...Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

You take these promises to God in Prayer and make it known you are standing on these promises of your Covenant with God through Christ Jesus - then it is settled. NO more talking against what you have settled. Thank God for those labourers and the salvation of who ever it is.

If the OP would stop fretting about things and do what God has instructed us to do - well we would see more done for the Glory of God.
God has done His part - it is up to each and every one of us to do our part which releases what God has already done into the natural realm or where we live. All done by Faith and NOT Fret.
God Bless and again I seem to have run off of one of your replies.........It is just when I read what you write it triggers things from within me. I guess I should be saying thank you Bendito for that.....
Jim

 

[dh charles]

Using Gods word brings forth much of the changes we seek ! For example .....Matthew 9:38 - Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that He will send forth labourers into his harvest

Why is many beleivers simply leave this scripture lay dorment ? It is a powerful tool we should all be using. When you take this scripture and couple it with say - 2 Corinthians 1:20 -For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

AND
Mark 11:24...Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

You take these promises to God in Prayer and make it known you are standing on these promises of your Covenant with God through Christ Jesus - then it is settled. NO more talking against what you have settled. Thank God for those labourers and the salvation of who ever it is.

If the OP would stop fretting about things and do what God has instructed us to do - well we would see more done for the Glory of God.
God has done His part - it is up to each and every one of us to do our part which releases what God has already done into the natural realm or where we live. All done by Faith and NOT Fret.
God Bless and again I seem to have run off of one of your replies.........It is just when I read what you write it triggers things from within me. I guess I should be saying thank you Bendito for that.....
Jim

God bless you my brother. I love what you wrote. We are together in the lord as soldiers of the truth and we trust totally in Him and will be refreshed.
My wife is calling me to go so eat with the Indians........as I call it. ....later.

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

God bless you my brother. I love what you wrote. We are together in the lord as soldiers of the truth and we trust totally in Him and will be refreshed.
My wife is calling me to go so eat with the Indians........as I call it. ....later.

Amen we are together in the Lord as soldiers of ther truth and he has made us Brothers as well. For some reason this seems heavy to me tonight. I mean Brothers in Christ - no that is a bond that no demon is ever going to over take.

Thanks for the big smile as well - seems I remember hearing eating weith the indians or savages when I was real little. rofl !
God Bless my Brother
Jim