What do the pro-vaxxers say about this?

[IamachildofGod4 ever]

Amen and more now than ever!

 

[Hekuran]

Didn't they choose those jabs because they love this world?

I chose the jabs because because my risk analysis indicated it was the safest thing to do. Also, at the time I was working in a day centre with vulnerable people and I wanted to do everything I could to prevent passing on an infection.

Loving this world was not part of my motivation.

 

[IamachildofGod4 ever]

I chose the jabs because because my risk analysis indicated it was the safest thing to do. Also, at the time I was working in a day centre with vulnerable people and I wanted to do everything I could to prevent passing on an infection.

Loving this world was not part of my motivation.

No one here is condemning you. I was very blessed to be in the company of medical personnel, who were very skeptical of the efficacy, and also the data and testing on the jab. Everything that they feared about the jab turned out to be true. I truly don’t know what I would’ve done if I had a family to support and was told that I would lose my job if I didn’t get the jab.. I’m sure I would’ve gone for a religious exemption because I do feel that we should not be forced to put Something into our body that has not been tested and that we have reservations about.

I think that what some people are trying to say, is that some people, even Christians, were so afraid of dying that they took the jab out of fear. For us, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. We know where we are going when we pass away from this world. But again, there are exceptions, and some people truly felt that they were doing what was right by getting the jab. That is why I said that I always pray for those who got the jab and those who didn’t.

 

[Hekuran]

Is seems your medical friends acted on one set of fears and many others on an opposite set of fears.

The video in the op doesn't make clear that a person who is not vaccinated is around eight times more likely to die of COVID.

Do you have data on how many deaths caused by the vaccine?

 

[IamachildofGod4 ever]

Is seems your medical friends acted on one set of fears and many others on an opposite set of fears.

The video in the op doesn't make clear that a person who is not vaccinated is around eight times more likely to die of COVID.

Do you have data on how many deaths caused by the vaccine?

The Canadian Medical Association’s journal published a new study in late November titled, “Observed versus expected rates of myocarditis after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination: a population-based cohort study.”

The researchers studied 10 million doses of the shots and found an overall average rate of new myocarditis cases in people who got the mRNA vaccine, at a rate of 141 per 100,000, or 1 in 6,500 — just within the first 21 days following injection.

That is insanely high.

Worse, they found the highest rate of heart damage among young males aged 18-29 who got Moderna, which features a higher mRNA payload than Pfizer.

The study authors counted myocarditis cases based on hospital admissions and ER visits. In other words, they DIDN’T count subclinical cases not requiring a hospital visit within the first 21 days, or cases diagnosed outside a hospital. So the numbers are almost certainly understated.

But of course, the authors covered for the jabs. They had to, to get published. Here’s how they justified the risk:

According to a US analysis, 11,000 COVID-19 cases, 560 hospital admissions, 138 ICU admissions and 6 deaths from COVID-19 could be prevented per million-second doses of mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccine administered to males aged 12–29 years, compared with 39–47 expected cases of myocarditis after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination.​

So, take one for the team! It’s the classic ethical dilemma. Assuming those numbers are accurate, is it morally permissible to intentionally give 50 people permanent heart disease in order to prevent six deaths?

We know what the CDC would say. What do YOU think?

Link: https://www.cmaj.ca/content/194/45/E1529

 

[IamachildofGod4 ever]

for all those who got the shot and all who did not. Praying for wisdom, discernment and peace for all.
I had a family member who dropped dead after the latest booster. That is all that I will say on this subject.

 

[IamachildofGod4 ever]

This will be my last post regarding this subject but if any of my brothers or sisters, want more information, you can subscribe to coffee and Covid.

In late September’s the Journal Vaccine published a study titled, “Serious Adverse Events of Special Interest Following mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination in Randomized Trials in Adults.”

The researchers took a 2020 W.H.O.-endorsed list of “adverse events of special interest” created for the covid vaccines before they were released. Thus the study didn’t include ALL adverse events. The researchers were only looking for ones from the list, called “adverse events of special interest.”

For their data, the researchers decided to use the interim datasets from Pfizer and Moderna, that were used as the basis for emergency authorization in December 2020, which was about four months after trials began. Then they matched the adverse events reported in the Pfizer and Moderna trials against the independent list of adverse events of special interest.

With me so far?

By using the Pfizer and Moderna data, the researched had a randomized, blinded trial set. Nobody’s done one since the FDA approved the jabs. It’s the only randomized, double-blinded study there is.

Once the researchers combined the lists, they found a remarkably high level of adverse events compared from jab takers compared to the placebo group, which got saline instead of mRNA. In particular, they found the risk of serious adverse events of special interest (AESI’s) from the vaccines was much higher than the risk reduced. In other words, they concluded — from Pfizer and Moderna’s OWN clinical data — that the jabs were neither safe nor effective:

In the Moderna trial, the excess risk of serious AESIs (15.1 per 10,000 participants) was higher than the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group (6.4 per 10,000 participants). [3] In the Pfizer trial, the excess risk of serious AESIs (10.1 per 10,000) was higher than the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group (2.3 per 10,000 participants).​

In other words, the data showed that Moderna lowered the chance of covid hospitalization by -6.4 per 10,000, but INCREASED the risk of a serious adverse event by +15.1 per 10,000. Therefore, vaccinees’ net risk of a bad outcome increased by +8.7 per 10,000 by taking the Moderna shot.

Pfizer was nearly the same. The data showed Pfizer lowered the chance of covid hospitalization by -2.3 per 10,000, but INCREASED the risk of a serious adverse event by +10.1 per 10,000. Therefore, vaccinees’ net risk of a bad outcome increased by +7.8 per 10,000 by taking the Pfizer shot.

The difference between the two shots makes sense. Moderna contains a much higher dose of mRNA. So the higher risk reduction and higher adverse events in Moderna seems correlated with the amount of mRNA in the shot, just as you would expect.

So, there’s THAT. But now think about what the numbers MEAN for people’s risk of injury. For Pfizer, in their own trial, during just the first four months of the trial, meaning only about two months post-jab, 10.1 folks per 10,000 had a serious adverse event. That’s 1 injury per 1,000 shots, a crazy-high level of injury. Moderna was even worse. At 15.1 injuries per 10,000, it translated to about 1 serious injury in only 662 jabbed.

The study’s drafters were clear about their conclusion that the jabs weren’t SAFE due to excess injuries over the placebo, and that the jabs weren’t EFFECTIVE because they didn’t prevent hospitalization when compared to a placebo (from all causes). While they didn’t exactly beat the drum about it, they didn’t exactly hide their conclusion, either:

Rational policy formation should consider potential harms alongside potential benefits. To illustrate this need in the present context, we conducted a simple harm-benefit comparison using the trial data comparing excess risk of serious AESI against reductions in COVID-19 hospitalization. We found excess risk of serious AESIs to exceed the reduction in COVID-19 hospitalizations in both Pfizer and Moderna trials.​

In addition to the fact they only counted adverse events from the “special interest” list, the authors noted three other reasons why adverse events in the study might be undercounted. In other words, it might even be a lot worse:

First, Pfizer’s trial did not report SAEs [Serious Adverse Events] occurring past 1 month after dose 2. This reporting threshold may have led to an undercounting of serious AESIs [Adverse Events of Special Interest] in the Pfizer trial. Second, for both studies, the limited follow up time prevented an analysis of harm-benefit over a longer period. Third, all SAEs in our analysis met the regulatory definition of a serious adverse event, but many adverse event types which a patient may themselves judge as serious may not meet this regulatory threshold.​

By this point, you’re probably wondering how the FDA ever approved these dangerous products in the first place. The answer is that the FDA used different numbers than these researchers; and the study discusses those differences in some detail. At the end of the day, the study’s authors clearly thought the FDA’s approach was overly-optimistic.

I would call it “reckless.”

This is a serious study in a respected journal, with clear methods and using pharma’s own data, and unless you agree with the FDA’s forgiving analytical methods, the study undermines the claim that the jabs were EVER safe and effective. You could send this study to anyone who was wondering what the most current “science” says about the jabs.

Here’s the link: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2022.08.036

Watch out below! The narrative is failing.

Polling giant Rasmussen’s latest national telephone and online survey found half (49%) of American adults think it is likely that covid vaccines have caused a “significant number of unexplained deaths,” including 28% who think it is “Very Likely.” A minority, thirty-seven percent (37%), disagree that any significant number of deaths have been caused by vaccine side effects, including 17% who think unexplained deaths are “Not At All Likely.”

Fourteen percent (14%) were not sure about the jabs.

So, at this point, if this poll is accurate, almost two-thirds of Americans are either convinced the jabs are killing people or aren’t sure yet. The holdouts are now down to almost a third.

Another third (28%) reported they personally know someone whose death they think may have been caused by side effects of covid vaccines. That’s a lot of people. Sixty percent (61%) don’t know anybody they think died of jabs, and another 10% aren’t sure. Interestingly, unlike other categories, these numbers were split pretty evenly by political affiliation, with democrats even showing a slight lead over Republicans (33% to 26%) in suspecting the jabs caused an acquaintance’s death.

You can tell folks all kinds of beautiful lies, and that might work for a while, but you can’t beat people’s personal experiences.

There was a big split between jabbed and unjabbed people. Three quarters (77%) of unjabbed adults think it’s at least somewhat likely that vaccines caused a significant number of unexplained deaths, but only forty percent (38%) of jabbed people think unexplained deaths from the vaccine are at least somewhat likely. That’s still pretty high.

The tide is turning, we are winning the narrative war. Consider that the CDC is still saying the jabs are safe and effective. So, imagine what these poll results suggest about how many people are distrusting or ignoring the official narrative.

 

[Hekuran]

Thank you @IamachildofGod4 ever for the detailed information. I was surprised to see the effectiveness rates for Pfizer so low - it's normally rated at about 60% effective in preventing hospitalisation. I'll look into it a bit further.

 

[IamachildofGod4 ever]

You are very welcome Hekuran!

 

[Christ4Ever]

for all those who got the shot and all who did not. Praying for wisdom, discernment and peace for all.
I had a family member who dropped dead after the latest booster. That is all that I will say on this subject.

My heart and prayers goes out to you and yours at the loss/separation of your family member.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[IamachildofGod4 ever]

My heart and prayers goes out to you and yours at the loss/separation of your family member.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Thank you, Nick. The saddest part about this is that my family member was a brilliant research scientist. I literally begged her not to take any more boosters. She would not look at any of the stats that I sent her. Always reminded me that she was the scientist and I am not. Please pray for peace and salvation for her husband.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Thank you, Nick. The saddest part about this is that my family member was a brilliant research scientist. I literally begged her not to take any more boosters. She would not look at any of the stats that I sent her. Always reminded me that she was the scientist and I am not. Please pray for peace and salvation for her husband.

Will do. In the name of Jesus! \o/

Sadly, pride, is one of the biggest obstacles one has to overcome in Christ Jesus. That is why humility and the need to be humble are so important in the lives of believers and God provides opportunities for us to be so!

Brotherly hug to you.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[IamachildofGod4 ever]

Thank you for praying and for speaking the Truth in love, brother Nick.

 

[Godbehonored]

I have a Tshirt that says….normal isn’t coming back…. Jesus is! You should see some of the looks of hatred that I get when I wear it.

You are blessed.

 

[Godbehonored]

I chose the jabs because because my risk analysis indicated it was the safest thing to do. Also, at the time I was working in a day centre with vulnerable people and I wanted to do everything I could to prevent passing on an infection.

Loving this world was not part of my motivation.

Not you perhaps, but a good group of them. Fact is, taking the jab does not protect anyone. I got infected by family members who were vaccinated and I never caught COVID on my own even after running around for three years unvaccinated. I neither died nor got hospitalized and recovered much faster than all who were vaccinated. One of my family members who got vaccinated developed immune system problems not long after his shots, and they didn't even take Pfizer or Moderna.

At least I hope you will not make the same mistake when the mark of the beast comes.

 

[Godbehonored]

Is seems your medical friends acted on one set of fears and many others on an opposite set of fears.

The video in the op doesn't make clear that a person who is not vaccinated is around eight times more likely to die of COVID.

Do you have data on how many deaths caused by the vaccine?

Just look at the videos on Dr Campbell's YT page, he shares the data of excess deaths in the UK. His latest videos in 2023 may be of great interest. Also read the real life comments under his videos of people who know how many people around them died from the jab. Its hard to ignore unless one is willfully blind. Even Campbell is waking up to the lies.

 

[Godbehonored]

for all those who got the shot and all who did not. Praying for wisdom, discernment and peace for all.
I had a family member who dropped dead after the latest booster. That is all that I will say on this subject.

So sorry to hear about this. I hope God will forgive your family member who made this decision.

Your statistics were what I lacked in my prior arguments with those on here who believed in the jabs. But I kept saying right from the start that something is very wrong if people are justifying excess/premature deaths in order to save lives, for ANY reason. People are dying under a bad product, if that is not enough for us to wake up about it being wrong, what could happen? Next, we will be saying its ok for people to die so that global warming will not destroy the planet. How about killing off more people so there will be enough natural resources for the rest of us? Do you see how terrible this will play out? Murder in the eyes of God becomes a justified act for the "greater good" so called.

 

[IamachildofGod4 ever]

Godbehonored, I am so glad that those stats helped your argument. There are more stats from insurance companies and if I can find them again I will post them.
May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight oh Lord, my rock and my redeemer,
Thank you for the encouragement.

 

[IamachildofGod4 ever]

You are blessed.

Yes, they hated Jesus and they hate us for loving and serving Him boldly and without fear.

 

[IamachildofGod4 ever]

So sorry to hear about this. I hope God will forgive your family member who made this decision.

Your statistics were what I lacked in my prior arguments with those on here who believed in the jabs. But I kept saying right from the start that something is very wrong if people are justifying excess/premature deaths in order to save lives, for ANY reason. People are dying under a bad product, if that is not enough for us to wake up about it being wrong, what could happen? Next, we will be saying its ok for people to die so that global warming will not destroy the planet. How about killing off more people so there will be enough natural resources for the rest of us? Do you see how terrible this will play out? Murder in the eyes of God becomes a justified act for the "greater good" so called.

• So far, children have been largely unfazed by COVID-19 because their interferon pathway works really well. Interferon is an immune molecule that protects cells against invading pathogens
• The COVID jab inhibits the type-1 interferon pathway, so mass injecting young children may actually erase the natural herd immunity against COVID-19 that would develop if all children remained unjabbed
• Aggressive cancers have exploded among adults who got the shots, even though it’s only been a little over two years since their rollout
• Analysis of U.S. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) data suggests the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is redesignating cancer deaths as COVID deaths to eliminate the cancer signal, and has been doing so since April 2021
• We’ve also seen massive increases in excess mortality from abnormal clotting issues and heart problems since the COVID shots rolled out. If side effects such as cancer, heart disease and stroke are killing working age adults in unprecedented numbers already, what will the excess mortality be, say, 10 years from now if children and teens keep getting mRNA boosters every year?