what do you think about suicide?

[Trees]

I think some people think it's no big deal of they were to do it. They don't think about how it would affect others around them. They get upset about simple things and don't feel like facing them. "I'm not popular, I wanna die."

I went through horrible times in school being picked on, threatened, etc. Teachers didn't even care. The people who should have been there to help didn't want to be bothered with it. It wasn't just minor teasing; it was the type that makes me understand why people these days end up taking guns to school. You can't get away from it, you can't stop it, you can't avoid it, you can't stop going to school, so just not being alive would be the only way out.

Well here I am almost 30 and still dealing with the side-effects from those years. Unable to have friends or a real job or a social life of any kind. Depressed about my life and how it went nowhere, self-doubt, still having to deal with people who think it's fun or cool to say mean things to me for no reason. People who say to just get over it and move on when it's not that simple. I can totally understand why people who went through what I did in school would consider suicide.

I think if you're on medication that can cause suicidal thoughts, there may be forgiveness options if you go through with it. But only God knows if it was the meds or your normal state of mind that caused it. I personally don't believe you get into Heaven if you kill yourself purposely. I know you should always have faith, but some times even when you do, things don't work out the way you want them to. If you're about to be tortured, I know faith would be important, but even those with faith still end up in those situations, so it's hard to say if you killed yourself to escape torture or a slow death if you'd be forgiven. What if you have a terminal illness and there's no cure? Would dying in peace be a sin if it was self-inflicted? Or are you supposed to wait it out and suffer? Suffering is a part of life, but....?

What if you had to rescue someone and knew if you saved them, you'd get killed? You'd be forgiven there, right?

It would be nice to have some hints from Jesus on these things now a days, lol!

Either way, over the years, I realized suicide (no matter how often I thought about it) is NOT acceptable in my beliefs, so that's never an option for me anymore. I'm glad I came to that conclusion.

 

[Elshevia]

Dear Trees, How brave of you, to put your thoughts and feeling on show, bullies always pick
on the weakest they can find, and they get a kick out of showing everyone else in the play ground how great they are, they are in fact very sad characters, who lack empathy with
anyone who they believe are disabled in any way, even shyness is considered a weakness with
them, I also suffered through out my school days, as did my Daughter, and only because she was very bright, but I learnt very early to give all this to our Lord, because the bullies followed me when I left school, to go into the working enviroment and I lived in a small Town and work
was not easy to come by, but through Prayer I was able to ignore it all, and it stopped, I can only hope everyone else finds a way to stop it without, violence entering into and making a
disaster happen to innocent lives.that is not the answer,

 

[Trees]

What a lovely post, Elshevia. Sorry you and your daughter had to go through that as well. I once knew someone who picked on me a LOT and eventually she got into the goth look and people started to pick on her for a change. I guess that really changed her because she was nice to me from then on and turned out to be a really cool person. I know it's probably wrong to think, but I kinda wish that all bullies had to go through that same thing as she did. Maybe it would be a better world. They have to know how it feels before they realize what it does to people. Schools are getting so much worse with all the violence and weapons now. It's a whole new level. Most of these situations could be stopped if only teachers and adults would see the signs and do something instead of ignoring it. You really can't blame some kids who do drastic things because they're usually driven to it. They feel as though there's no other way out other than fighting back or taking their own lives. Someone takes a gun to school to get revenge and people feel bad for those who are shot at, but rarely for the shooter who just got pushed around one too many times. (Not that revenge is right.)

There's the whole "eye for an eye" thing, but if a kid who got picked on decided to fight back, they'd probably be the one in trouble (that usually happened with me when I'd yell at someone to leave me alone in class). I guess it's comforting to know that the bullies will be dealt with some day, but when you're being picked on, you want that judgment to come a little sooner.

 

[SpiritLedEd]

I, too, was bullied and laughed at a lot in school. It seemed as if there were a thousand bullies coming against me. When I came to Christ and began to read the Bible, I came to realize that God had walked me through that pain; that I hadn't been alone in any of it.

"When the servant of the man of God got up and went out early the next morning, an army with horses and chariots had surrounded the city. 'Oh, my lord, what shall we do?' the servant asked. 'Don't be afraid,' the prophet (Elisha) answered. 'Those who are with us are more than those who are with them.' And Elisha prayed, 'O Lord, open his eyes so that he may see.' Then the Lord opened the servant's eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha." (2 Kgs 6:15-17)

SLE

 

[gotime]

To kill ones self

while killing is a sin and killing one's self is the same it would be wrong to say they would not get to heaven. why? we dont know what was going through there mind many have tried and changed their mind and just managed to stop death while in a car witha hose in the window. and im sure there are probably many who may have don ethe same but tooo late and didnt have the strength to get out and died anyway.

second many people who kill themselves are in depression and depression is a desease which effects our judgment. the fact is we just dont know though it is sin to kill we do not know the heart of these people so im glad its up to GOd to judge.
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all im tryin to say is we should not just write off those who end up taking their own life. we may well see them in heaven who knows.
God does.

 

[grace07]

Chad your post SUICIDE is very important. You are a blessed man the Holy Spirit gave you an enlightenment to help this matter especially the younger generation.

Yes , Im positive . Suicide is a sin. Its the works of the devil to tempt it. Please to all christians.. Be strong in the Lord. He promise us that he will never leave thee nor forsake thee.

Lets stand up for Jesus. Continue to read His words, the Bible.

 

[SpiritLedEd]

I have a Christian friend who's been diagnosed as bi-polar and has been on medication for it for several years. But,while he takes his medication faithfully, he's still subject to periodic mood swings that take him deep into depression and cause him to contemplate suicide.

Thank God that thus far, he has cried out to God when in despair and has not yet taken his own life when the disease attacks. But, bi-polar disorder is truly cunning, baffling, and powerful and none of us, strong though our faith may be, can say that we could stand up under a sudden attack every time because, being human, we let our guard down sometimes.

I do not believe that God casts everyone who commits suicide into hell automatically because, for an act to be a sin, the sinner has to be in possesion of all his/her mental faculties at the time of the act. Many people who commit suicide are not in their right minds, clinically speaking,when they do it, therefore, they do not deserve hell because of that one act.

SLE

 

[aaroncam85]

hi i agree suicide is a sin but when it comes to believers and if they commit suicide i dare not say if God would forgive, i do know he is sovereign and can do as he pleases but we have to ask was the person reeally saved?