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What is an evil thought? How do you define an evil thought?

A new Christian has to be careful or live in fear. God does not wish you to live in fear that you are sinning daily.

For example I am a married man, have been for 27 years, so, I see this pretty girl, boy she is a cute one. So I talk to her, admire her, and flirt with her, I am attracted to her.

If I take it any further , that is the sin. I was created by God to live and enjoy life, but to also live a good life.

But I am not to live in fear that I am no good, just a sinner all the time. That is not the purpose of Gods word.

Many years ago I was a policeman and I had a fellow officer who had shot a person during a robbery. He was a new Christian and was very fearful that his taking of a life was going to send him to hell. Nothing could be further from the truth, but it took me many conversations to convince him of that. He had been brainwashed by his local religious experience and had some very wrong ideas.

So define sin, what is sin.....exactly.

Tis not always what some will have you think it is.

Kit

So define sin, what is sin.....exactly.

This is a great question Kit and I am going to give it a shot at the answer.

Sin is often misunderstood, both in understanding fully what it is and in its consequence.

Like anyone else I do not fully understand everything, but for me sin is pretty simple to define.

Once I fully understood the absolute perfection of God the Farther, this question came into focus.

There are many things about the bible that support my understanding of sin as a opposing to God's perfection.

If you look towards the end of 1 Corinthians 13, you will see St. Paul talking about this divine perfection in relationship to us in our human state and how all that will change when we go to heaven.

Paraphrasing:
"For our knowledge is imperfect and our understanding is imperfect but when the imperfection goes and the perfection comes, we will stand Face to Face to God and we will know Him fully, as well as He knows us."

What Paul says here comes right at the heals of Him telling us about perfect love, God's love, starting in verse 3.
Chapter 13 is often called the the "love" Chapter. Paul is certainly talking about God's love here, perfect love, and our imperfection at it!

Previous to 1 Corinthians 13, we are told that love replaces the Ten Commandments. But here is the significants of this, as imperfect beings, we can no more keep this kind of love (God’s unconditional, agape, love) than we could keep the Ten Commandments 24/7.

In Chapter 13, God is reminding us how sinful we are.
And that is the purpose of the Ten Commandments and also the Covenant of love that replaced the Ten Commandments, to reveal in us our sinful nature and our dependency upon God's Grace in Jesus Christ. Neither of these was meant for us to do perfectly, 24/7, because none of us are perfect.

10As it is written:
"There is no one righteous, not even one; Romans 3:10

So what is sin?
Sin is anything that we do that is outside of God's perfect will and nature.
Life Through the Spirit
1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus Romans 8:1
 
anything that is not of faith is sin. according to the bible.

it is a bit distrubing that you believe that Christ bought you with His blood so that you can " enjoy life and live a good life" which you define as being able to flirt freely with young girls that are cute.- and that you took this idea and squashed another christians conscious with it.

Our lives in Christ are meant to be lived so that we can enjoy life in a carnal way.Our lives are to be for Christ. We are suppose to die to self so that only Christ lives in us and so we become conformed into His image.- Did Jesus flirt with girls, and that as a married man?

Are you taking up your cross daily? Or have you decided it is right to live your own life as pleases yourself at the expence of His sacrifice?

HI.

I got the giggles when I posted this, I knew exactly some of the response that would come, and you do misunderstand my point. Sure I will tell a woman she is cute and mean it. I will enjoy the toss of her hair and her beauty and compliment her on it. But that is all, and I find no sin in that. Nor does God, or he would one way or the other convince me I am wrong.

No I do not take up my cross daily, I carry no cross, I just say Hit to him every day, ask him about something that I may want an answer to, kinda varies but mainly I just say Hi.

My point was one does have to be careful with being so afraid. God does not wish us to live in fear that all we do is sin. That we are born sinners (which we are) and have to worry about everything we do daily. We are supposed to enjoy life, to enjoy the things put on the earth for our use, and simply not allow sin to degrade something innocent. That is what you have to be on guard against.

I am a plumber by trade, kinda like the original carpenter by trade. I enjoy life, I am full of mischief sometimes, and I can remember long ago when I was a new Christian and was listening to some things that were not facts, I was afraid of many things, and an example is keeping in tune with this particular thread would be the sight of a pretty girl.

We are told that to lust after a woman in your heart is a sin, and rightly so, but to enjoy her, is not. To appreciate her is not. To allow your thoughts to take you down the wrong road is a sin. Not only that but all the resulting things that can be a result of that is sin, from sex to financial hardship on a family over it to disease to many results of sin from the original lack of self control.

I hope this more fully explains it. You will find I love God, but enjoy all the things he allows me to without fear. I am not one to pretend or say what is politically correct just because it sounds good.

I simply allow God to take me through life, enjoy many things, and avoid bad things.

Sometimes I do not say things that the normal standard, theme of thought is . I am very different. Onery sometimes too. But always without fail strive to be totally honest. Right or wrong, I will say what is on my mind.

There are many example I could give but I tried to stay in the context of the original discussion . I could put a little humor in too , but feel this is not the right time.

Long ago I went through a time when I let others tell me I had no hope. This was an extreme view, I am in my way trying to say, we do not have to live in fear. We are allowed to enjoy life, so long as we let God control our lives. Once you do allow him in your life completely, no one has to tell you what is wrong or right, you just know somehow.

This kind of thing is very, very hard to tell someone, and I have most likely not done a good job.

Take Care

Kit
 
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