What is Faith?

[A servant of the Kings]

No you cannot fool me BAC, I know exactly what John means, practiacally no one believes me either when I speak the same truth as John:
1 The elder,

To the lady chosen by God and to her children, whom I love in the truth—and not I only, but also all who know the truth— 2 because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:

In fact many "christians" has started to bully me, claiming the most horrible things when I tell them about the chosen ladies. Father forgive them if it is good in your judgement, they do not know what they are doing.

Also most do not know that God is Light, or that God is Love, like John explains so brilliantly.

But even worse many do not even believe it, many do not even believe in the chosen ladies, that they are real, or in the eye, or in the seven spirits of God before the throne.

When a person does not believe in the bible, and does not know for himself that what is written there is true, then he will not search for the truth.

Jesus Christ our Lord and savior, has made a promise that hes who searches shall find. But first he must believe in order to start his search, if he does not believe, then why would he search.

When he has found with the help of God, as has been promised. The the faith that made him search is longer needed, cause he is already at the goal, knowledge.

 

[Curtis]

No one can have faith in Jesus until they have the faith OF Jesus which comes by hearing his voice.

 

[A servant of the Kings]

Yes hearing His voice, and obeying His guidance was all important for me, but it lead me to the truth, God is truth. God is light.

God gave us an eye to see the light, that is the truth.

But first we have to become seeing if we are not, then we must clean and receive Gods help to clean the eye, or we will see darkness, and believe it is the light.

When I understood that people had torn out the eye from the teachings of Jesus, I cried for hours.

And Jesus comforted me and said: - The blind do not know the meaning of an eye


22The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. 23But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!…

 

[KingJ]

When we know truth, we do not need faith anymore, cause we have arrived at what the title deed promises

Amen!

 

[KingJ]

No one can have faith in Jesus until they have the faith OF Jesus which comes by hearing his voice.

Scripture?

 

[Curtis]

Yes hearing His voice, and obeying His guidance was all important for me, but it lead me to the truth, God is truth. God is light.

God gave us an eye to see the light, that is the truth.

But first we have to become seeing if we are not, then we must clean and receive Gods help to clean the eye, or we will see darkness, and believe it is the light.

When I understood that people had torn out the eye from the teachings of Jesus, I cried for hours.

And Jesus comforted me and said: - The blind do not know the meaning of an eye


22The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. 23But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!…

Since faith only comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God no one can have faith in Jesus until they first have the faith OF Jesus.

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

seeing lnto the spiritual real requires the spirit of faith to enlighten the eyes of one’s heart.

 

[KingJ]

Since faith only comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God no one can have faith in Jesus until they first have the faith OF Jesus.

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

seeing lnto the spiritual real requires the spirit of faith to enlighten the eyes of one’s heart.

You are making statements that don't quite tie up with the scripture you quoting. They sound really odd.

''The word “faith” in Romans 10:17 is referring to a specific type of faith: saving faith. It is faith in the message of the Gospel, trust and belief in Jesus and the good news of what He has done for us in His death, burial and resurrection.''

 

[Curtis]

Scripture?

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Since faith comes by hearing the word of God, Jesus being the word of God, faith comes only by hearing his voice.

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

 

[Curtis]

''The word “faith” in Romans 10:17 is referring to a specific type of faith: saving faith

Saving faith comes from scriptures that describe what that faith will do for you (Romans 10:9-10). Faith for healing comes from scriptures that describe what that faith will do for you.
Every promise in the Bible describes what that faith that it gives will do for you.

You can have faith one area of your life and zero faith in another.

 

[Curtis]

Everything we say or do if it does not come of faith is sin. Whatever is not of faith is sin! (Romans 14:23)

 

[A servant of the Kings]

For those that cannot see with the eye that can see the Light of God, it is like when you wake up after a nights sleep, and suddenly see your bedroom, and the sun shining through the window.

Before you opened your eyes it was not there for you.

We must trust someone who walked before us to show us the way. He saw God, He had the pure seeing eye, so He is our shepherd.

He made it not advisable for anyone to follow the blind with the words: 14Disregard them! They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

That is the pit of fire.

Jesus went before us so that we may follow, he went to the desert so that we may follow, He is the temple of God so that we may follow, is is the light so that we may follow, He is love so that we may follow, and so on, He united with God and became one, so that we may follow.

That is why He is the way to Father, it is why no one comes to the Father except through Him.

The way to Him who is purity, is cleaning, is the repentance to the remission of sin.

He who is good will not ask us to lose what is good, only what is evil. We are only to repent from what is evil.

Thus we must use the sword of Jesus to split good and evil, to be able to repent from the evil and keep the good. Jesus will let the ones He has chosen know the miracle heart, it will know what is good and what is evil.

The first commandment is the beginning, and the end of the way:

36“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”
37Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

 

[A servant of the Kings]

Yes Curtis about Romans 14:23, eating means to take in/ digest. To eat of the food of the Kingdom is to understand the Kingdom of God. To understand/ know the Kingdom of God we must see with the eye that can see the light of God, where the light is the Kingdom is. To believe it we may trust in Jesus first and foremost, and dont need to see it ourselves.

Like if someone did not go to New York, he could still trust someone who went there before him, and trust him about how to get there. But only when he went there himself did He start to know New York.

But if the eye is the evil eye, that satan infected, that Jesus warns us no to trust, when He says: 23But if your eye is [h]bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!

The ones who can see but see with the eye that is infected by evil, the bad eye, will be tricked by satan.

 

[Curtis]

Yes Curtis about Romans 14:23, eating means to take in/ digest. To eat of the food of the Kingdom is to understand the Kingdom of God. To understand/ know the Kingdom of God we must see with the eye that can see the light of God, where the light is the Kingdom is. To believe it we may trust in Jesus first and foremost, and dont need to see it ourselves.

Like if someone did not go to New York, he could still trust someone who went there before him, and trust him about how to get there. But only when he went there himself did He start to know New York.

But if the eye is the evil eye, that satan infected, that Jesus warns us no to trust, when He says: 23But if your eye is [h]bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!

The ones who can see but see with the eye that is infected by evil, the bad eye, will be tricked by satan.

Remember it is light that makes all things visible. The light of God brings vision while the light of darkness brings blindness.

 

[A servant of the Kings]

Yes, it is true, for the one who is turned towards the earth, the one who is turned away from God, he is at the prism, turned the other way. He is in the hands of the divider. For him the seven lamps of the Holy Temple of God will not shine in the White color of God, but in the seven colors of the rainbow, there is no unity, they will combine in seven times seven.

Those are the seven spirits of God revelation 4:5 “And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.”

When we are turned towards God, all the seven lamps will shine united in His white light, and the Holy Spirit will be with us.

It is why before telling us about the eye, that will act a prism when a person turns away from God, Jesus tells us this: 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

The Lamp of the Body​

22“The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is [g]good, your whole body will be full of light. 23But if your eye is [h]bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!


Where the treasure is for a person is all important for what the eye will have a view of, we will never see God if we are not turned towards Him, those who are turned away from Him will see the trickery of the divider.

We will be turned towards what we are attracted to the most, what we are attracted to the most is what we Love the most.

So again the first commandment is the first and the greatest.

To Love God our Father with all our hearts minds and souls.

Do not love things of the earth more, not even the body of flesh of a woman, or you will be turned the wrong way. It is a horrible curse that a person can put on himself by choice.

 

[KingJ]

Everything we say or do if it does not come of faith is sin. Whatever is not of faith is sin! (Romans 14:23)

Your statement is not supported by Rom 14:23. Please explain to me how you think it is.

 

[Curtis]

Your statement is not supported by Rom 14:23. Please explain to me how you think it is.

Any thing done to violate the faith-principle by which one is saved, and by which he lives (Romans 1:17; Hebrews 10:38), is sin. One must know beyond all doubt or hesitation in his mind that what he allows is in perfect accord with the Word of God before he acts.

Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

 

[vhusley]

Faith is a "spirit" and the "spirit of faith" comes when it hears the Word of God.

2Co 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

Rom 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

You are partially correct I believe. I would agree that faith in one sense is certainly a spirit.

But faith is also substantive. Isn’t it? In Romans 12:3, Paul teaches that God has assigned each man a “measure of faith,” (he even emphasizes in this passage that he is addressing “EVERYONE among you”).
Faith in a supernatural sense, is also a “gift” of the Holy Spirit.

I believe that every person has been given that “measure of faith” that Paul speaks of. We all, therefore, have the “potential” to act upon it, leading us to the “belief” in Jesus Christ that can eventually bring us into a saving relationship with Him.

I also believe that faith can obviously be measured by God as is evidenced in Paul’s words as well as in Jesus’ rebukes when He says things like, “You of little faith….”

Greater faith….the kind that leads to greater and miraculous things in the Spirit… comes not from us, but only from the Spirit of God working in us. It is built up through hearing (and believing ) the Word of God….”without doubting” as James says.

Miraculous faith…the kind that can move God into action to perform miraculous things….the kind exercised by Jesus and some of the disciples and Apostles…. is absolutely a gift and working of the Holy Spirit!

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Curtis]

You are partially correct I believe. I would agree that faith in one sense is certainly a spirit.

But faith is also substantive. Isn’t it? In Romans 12:3, Paul teaches that God has assigned each man a “measure of faith,” (he even emphasizes in this passage that he is addressing “EVERYONE among you”).
Faith in a supernatural sense, is also a “gift” of the Holy Spirit.

I believe that every person has been given that “measure of faith” that Paul speaks of. We all, therefore, have the “potential” to act upon it, leading us to the “belief” in Jesus Christ that can eventually bring us into a saving relationship with Him.

I also believe that faith can obviously be measured by God as is evidenced in Paul’s words as well as in Jesus’ rebukes when He says things like, “You of little faith….”

Greater faith….the kind that leads to greater and miraculous things in the Spirit… comes not from us, but only from the Spirit of God working in us. It is built up through hearing (and believing ) the Word of God….”without doubting” as James says.

Miraculous faith…the kind that can move God into action to perform miraculous things….the kind exercised by Jesus and some of the disciples and Apostles…. is absolutely a gift and working of the Holy Spirit!

Just my 2 cents.

I believe since faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God that the measure of faith is based on the amount of the word of God you have kept in you. More word would equal more faith. It is possible to have faith in one area of your life and zero faith in another. I believe faith grows in quantity and not quality.

 

[KingJ]

Any thing done to violate the faith-principle by which one is saved, and by which he lives (Romans 1:17; Hebrews 10:38), is sin. One must know beyond all doubt or hesitation in his mind that what he allows is in perfect accord with the Word of God before he acts.

Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

You keep adding to scripture what is not there.

Your statement '''Any thing done to violate the faith-principle..... is sin''.... ?? That is not what scripture says or is saying.

You read xyz and interpret it as abc.

 

[vhusley]

I believe since faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God that the measure of faith is based on the amount of the word of God you have kept in you. More word would equal more faith. It is possible to have faith in one area of your life and zero faith in another. I believe faith grows in quantity and not quality.

But what about supernatural faith? As in the gift of the Holy Spirit? Surely that kind of faith comes directly by the empowerment of the Holy Ghost, doesn’t it?

Obviously, the disciples had faith, or they would not have followed Jesus. Right? They obviously heard the Word because they knew THE Word in flesh. And yet Jesus rebuked them for having “little faith.”

For example, the faith to cast out demons, and the faith to lay hands on the sick and them be healed. Obviously, this kind of faith took the empowerment of the Holy Ghost not simply the kind of faith that comes by hearing the word of God. Right?