What verses make you sure?

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Lets cut to the chase.... you talk of verses with
1. Christ appearing
2. In Glory
3. With us...

No where in the bible does all 3 happen but in ONE VERSE... 2Thess1:10 and this doesnt work with your beliefs on the end times

 

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When Christ, who is our life, shall appear,
then shall ye also appear with Him in glory'.
(Col 3:1-4)


2 Thess. 1:10 shows Christ appearing in Glory which Paul awaits.... why cant you get that.... this is Christ GLORY TIME BEFORE THE WHOLE WORLD... and it is Us appearing with Him.... this is the only time this happens so sorry you are wrong

Hello Truth Be Told,

* I stand by what I have said, my friend.

* Read Ephesians, Colossians, Philippians, 1 & 2 Timothy, and Titus, and compare them with the earlier letters of Paul, and note the changes that take place, following that turning point in Acts 28. Romans of course is a foundation epistle, and it's chapters, 5:12-8:39, contain the truth of our identification with Christ, which provides the stepping stone leading on to Ephesian truth.

I will leave you here,
Within the Love of Christ our Saviour.
Chris

 

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Paul did Not have anything to do with Jesus until Jesus confronted Saul.... it is then as I said above that Paul was taken to heaven and got his Revelation from Christ himself..... so anything Paul wrote was After he had Revelation......

 

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Paul did Not have anything to do with Jesus until Jesus confronted Saul.... it is then as I said above that Paul was taken to heaven and got his Revelation from Christ himself..... so anything Paul wrote was After he had Revelation......

Hello Truth Be Told,

Please consider the words of Paul, spoken to Agrippa, in which he gives an account of his experience on the road to Damascus, and take note of what the Lord says to him there, on that day:-

'And when we were all fallen to the earth,
I heard a voice speaking unto me,
and saying in the Hebrew tongue,
"Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks."
And I said, "Who art thou, Lord?"
And He said, "I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
But rise, and stand upon thy feet:
for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose,
to make thee a minister
and a witness -
(1) both of these things which thou hast seen,
(2) and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
Delivering thee from the people,
and from the Gentiles,
unto whom now I send thee,
To open their eyes,
and to turn them from darkness to light,
and from the power of Satan unto God,
that they may receive forgiveness of sins,
and inheritance among them which are sanctified
by faith that is in me.'
(Acts 26:14-18)

* Please note that Christ Jesus, our risen Lord, says, that He would be appearing to Him again, and that Paul was to be a witness, not only concerning those things which he had seen, but of what he would yet receive from the Lord at yet another 'appearing' that he would make to him.

* So, no, Truth Be Told, there was further revelation given. See also, Ephesians 3:1-8:-

'For this cause I Paul,
the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God
which is given me to you-ward:
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery;
(as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men,
as it is now revealed unto His holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs,
and of the same body,
and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Whereof I was made a minister,
according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me
by the effectual working of His power.
Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints,
is this grace given,
that I should preach among the Gentiles
the unsearchable riches of Christ; ...'
And to make all men see
what is the fellowship (or 'dispensation') of the mystery,
which from the beginning of the world
hath been hid in God,
Who created all things by Jesus Christ: ... '

* This knowledge had been, 'hid in God', from the beginning of the world.

* You cannot dismiss this, Truth Be Told, without doing despite to the Word of God.

In Christ Jesus
Chris