Why is this not being taught in Church?

[Bill]

I see, it's a private thing.

Well if God allow you to answer, can you tell me which continent does the last world power that the anti Christ arises through exist upon at the moment?

And I ask again What choice is it that you want to have part in?

Quit being silly.

Where is the Anti Christ , are you asking that ? The person ? North Africa at the moment .

As for choices . When the time comes , dont feel like you are above others . The challenge will not be for yourself . That is easy . The challenge will be for family . As head of household , it will be your responcibility to either take the mark or not. And when your family is starving and crying . It will be tough to say no

 

[Bill]

So your saying God gave you a choice of what you wanted to do for him after he chose you as an Elect member of the Body? Kinda like do you wanna be an eye or a hand?

Can't seem to find that anywhere in Pauls writings, he always said i'll do this or that if the Lord be willing!!

God likes the stubborn ones. Lol

I am only the Servant .

 

[Samson2020]

Not really because I know that what ever happens to them is in the hands of my Father. My family knows where I stand and they're fine with it.

Actually no, I was asking which present day power on earth is the overtaking of the world gonna come through? To keep it private I would settle for the continent as I know it's not Africa. The Anti Christ will sit in the temple of God showing himself that he is God so eventually he will show up in Jerusalem, but no temple rebuilt yet.

 

[Samson2020]

But you didn't answer the question only called me stubborn for asking. Is it that hard to answer?

 

[Samson2020]

Matthew 10:27
"What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops."

 

[Bill]

But you didn't answer the question only called me stubborn for asking. Is it that hard to answer?

I didnt call you stubborn . I was talking about myself

 

[Samson2020]

Your not bad at diverting the conversation. Are you knowingly trying to divert the info into your own person agenda to hide whatever is coming out?
And you still didn't answer the question.

You said that God gave you a choice as to what you wanted to do after he ELECTED you. Is this correct?

 

[Bill]

Not really because I know that what ever happens to them is in the hands of my Father. My family knows where I stand and they're fine with it.

Actually no, I was asking which present day power on earth is the overtaking of the world gonna come through? To keep it private I would settle for the continent as I know it's not Africa. The Anti Christ will sit in the temple of God showing himself that he is God so eventually he will show up in Jerusalem, but no temple rebuilt yet.

To say which area the overtaking comes from. I do not know the answer, but my best guess would be via christianity. Primarily because of so much deception going on in every level .

All of you out there . I know its a hard pill to swallow . But the churches teachings have changed over the years . There is a book out i saw a few years ago that a preacher of a large organization in Wisconsin gave me . I read 1/2 the book, it wasnt even scriptural let alone it contradicted itself . The book is called ' Done ' . The author states there is nothing we can do , that with Jesus dying on the Cross, we dont have to do anything.

. But that is all falsehood .

Because we do have to do some things. 1 have to accept Jesus 2 have to confess sin 3 have to forgive others .

These are fundimental things that must be done .

Look at the thief on the cross , he accepted Jesus as Lord . Confessed his sins , and forgave . The sign of all of this, he was at peace.

There are other false doctrines being preached right under our noses, and no one is listening.

When was the last time you heard a preacher talk about the Blood of the Lamb

 

[Bill]

Your not bad at diverting the conversation. Are you knowingly trying to divert the info into your own person agenda to hide whatever is coming out?
And you still didn't answer the question.

You said that God gave you a choice as to what you wanted to do after he ELECTED you. Is this correct?

Patience is key . One finger typing . I stopped to take a break , ( from work ) to answer questions here

 

[Bill]

Your not bad at diverting the conversation. Are you knowingly trying to divert the info into your own person agenda to hide whatever is coming out?
And you still didn't answer the question.

You said that God gave you a choice as to what you wanted to do after he ELECTED you. Is this correct?

Yes God asked me if i would be what i am.

And then a year later , i had a vision . And in the vision i saw my life . 2 paths . The left path was the path God had prepared for me , and the second path was my walk into the Ministry .

As i stated before . My words were " may Your will be done and not mine "

 

[Bill]

Your not bad at diverting the conversation. Are you knowingly trying to divert the info into your own person agenda to hide whatever is coming out?
And you still didn't answer the question.

You said that God gave you a choice as to what you wanted to do after he ELECTED you. Is this correct?

So now, where does it say in scripture i have no choice

 

[Sue D.]

The Only One who knows who the elect are is God , Himself. He , alone, has all-knowledge of All things.

So for Anyone to say that someone else is or is Not one of the elect is False.

'we' are to assume that All are of the elect of God, the Father. We share the Gospel unto salvation with All who are willing to listen. The Holy Spirit works in the individual heart,

When a person feels conviction in his / her heart, that is the Holy Spirit reaching into them -- that person Still needs to acknowledge their personal need For salvation and accept God's gift Of. Personally accept that gift and then thank God For His gift.

Everyone does have a choice. During a person's life time -- before dying -- they Do have a choice of either accepting or rejecting. However, no one knows ahead of time When they will die physically.

 

[Bill]

The Only One who knows who the elect are is God , Himself. He , alone, has all-knowledge of All things.

So for Anyone to say that someone else is or is Not one of the elect is False.

'we' are to assume that All are of the elect of God, the Father. We share the Gospel unto salvation with All who are willing to listen. The Holy Spirit works in the individual heart,

When a person feels conviction in his / her heart, that is the Holy Spirit reaching into them -- that person Still needs to acknowledge their personal need For salvation and accept God's gift Of. Personally accept that gift and then thank God For His gift.

Everyone does have a choice. During a person's life time -- before dying -- they Do have a choice of either accepting or rejecting. However, no one knows ahead of time When they will die physically.

Well written Sue . Excellant

 

[Faithful Son]

The Only One who knows who the elect are is God , Himself. He , alone, has all-knowledge of All things.

So for Anyone to say that someone else is or is Not one of the elect is False.

'we' are to assume that All are of the elect of God, the Father. We share the Gospel unto salvation with All who are willing to listen. The Holy Spirit works in the individual heart,

When a person feels conviction in his / her heart, that is the Holy Spirit reaching into them -- that person Still needs to acknowledge their personal need For salvation and accept God's gift Of. Personally accept that gift and then thank God For His gift.

Everyone does have a choice. During a person's life time -- before dying -- they Do have a choice of either accepting or rejecting. However, no one knows ahead of time When they will die physically.

It's not a choice. It's a decision.
Jesus knocks. A decision is made to answer or not.
New American Standard Bible
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.

The Bible is as much spiritual as it is literal.
Satan is the Antichrist. He is a spirit.
The temple of God is the body.
I think a lot of people will have red faces when Jesus comes in Glory.
Blink of an eye.

 

[Samson2020]

So then both of you would say that even the ELECT do not know who they are?

 

[Samson2020]

Samson2020
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The Body of Christ is composed of the Elect that have been Baptized in the holy Ghost period. These are considered the Spiritual Jews (Chosen of God).
The knowing of the truth is what sets us free, and the truth is that if one is chosen then that one is of the elect and a member of the Body.
But you do not have a choice to be one of the elect. Ask Esau. If you are the elect of God he will open your eyes to see the truth of his plan in his own good time. If you are not to be a member of the elect group you will stay blinded to the truth of that plan no matter how many times a week you go to church, or tithe, or preach it is Gods choice not anyone elses. This is the Sovereignty of God. Similar to Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated before they were born to show us it is by HIS choice. He will accomplish HIS WILL on the earth as he does in Heaven and who is going to stop him?
As far as the elect are concerned I would quote Romans 11:29 "For the gifts and calling of God are WITHOUT REPENTANCE." That is to say he will not change his mind about who he has called.
I think you may be placing to much emphasis on anyones need to go tell them in the Churches what they teach is wrong. We know, but it's not up to us to go make a scene within their houses of worship, besides you'd just get thrown out, I know it's happened to me many times. When the Father wants to draw one of his own out of those houses he will provide them with revelation of truth then when they have digested that truth and seen that it is contradictory to their groups teachings they will "COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE", but until that time they will remain in a state of infancy if they truly are elect.
I refer again to the 7 letters to the 7 churches in REVELATION. There are things that must be experienced within the Church community by us all in order to tell the difference between good solid doctrine and a flat out lie. The deeds and doctrine of the Nicolaitans, Jezebels teachings, the doctrine of Balaam, etc.. and in the overcoming of these errors in what they do or preach has a reward associated with each. This is a personal issue between the Lord and his elect and will happen when he chooses for it to happen. Rev 3:19 "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten(correct); be zealous(for the truth) and repent." Of what you have done before you knew these truths. And especially if you knew and continued to do what he has told you not to do.

Those that do come out of her are rewarded with the HIDDEN MANNA, this is for them not those that have not come out or won't.
Those that do overcome are allowed to eat from the TREE OF LIFE, that tree contains no knowledge of good and evil just allows one to see who is really causing the world to move as it does and kills self will (carnal mind).

In saying all that I still enjoying posting here but the main focus for us all is to align with the New Covenant as well as we can and be patient for the changes that mature us be it day by day or week by week. We all grow according to HIS plan not ours. I would quote Jesus here: John 5:26-27 " For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself. And hath GIVEN HIM AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE JUDGEMENT also, because he is the Son of man."
Remember when I broke down Judgement according to the Greeks. Judgement- a separation, involving a time of crisis, which is a way of knowing. Since he has been given authority to do this I think I will try harder to not get in the way for his judgement is far superior to mine. But I do know how you feel when you discover a new truth you just can't help yourself you want to tell the world, but the world cannot receive it because it is BLINDED.
He also speaks to the fact that there are those among the Churches that claim to be spiritual Jews (The elect) but are not. Rev 3:9, 2:2, 2:9. They are there on purpose to derail you from achieving to a higher inheritance in the Lord. If you overcome what has been placed in your path then you are rewarded accordingly. The rewards spoken of in the 7 letters still apply to ALL of the ELECT today as they did nearly 2000 years ago. Find yourself within the Church that the letter is written to and seek to overcome that issue and be rewarded. Then move on to the next.

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[Bill]

Samson2020
Add bookmark Today at 12:01 PM #200
The Body of Christ is composed of the Elect that have been Baptized in the holy Ghost period. These are considered the Spiritual Jews (Chosen of God).
The knowing of the truth is what sets us free, and the truth is that if one is chosen then that one is of the elect and a member of the Body.
But you do not have a choice to be one of the elect. Ask Esau. If you are the elect of God he will open your eyes to see the truth of his plan in his own good time. If you are not to be a member of the elect group you will stay blinded to the truth of that plan no matter how many times a week you go to church, or tithe, or preach it is Gods choice not anyone elses. This is the Sovereignty of God. Similar to Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated before they were born to show us it is by HIS choice. He will accomplish HIS WILL on the earth as he does in Heaven and who is going to stop him?
As far as the elect are concerned I would quote Romans 11:29 "For the gifts and calling of God are WITHOUT REPENTANCE." That is to say he will not change his mind about who he has called.
I think you may be placing to much emphasis on anyones need to go tell them in the Churches what they teach is wrong. We know, but it's not up to us to go make a scene within their houses of worship, besides you'd just get thrown out, I know it's happened to me many times. When the Father wants to draw one of his own out of those houses he will provide them with revelation of truth then when they have digested that truth and seen that it is contradictory to their groups teachings they will "COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE", but until that time they will remain in a state of infancy if they truly are elect.
I refer again to the 7 letters to the 7 churches in REVELATION. There are things that must be experienced within the Church community by us all in order to tell the difference between good solid doctrine and a flat out lie. The deeds and doctrine of the Nicolaitans, Jezebels teachings, the doctrine of Balaam, etc.. and in the overcoming of these errors in what they do or preach has a reward associated with each. This is a personal issue between the Lord and his elect and will happen when he chooses for it to happen. Rev 3:19 "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten(correct); be zealous(for the truth) and repent." Of what you have done before you knew these truths. And especially if you knew and continued to do what he has told you not to do.

Those that do come out of her are rewarded with the HIDDEN MANNA, this is for them not those that have not come out or won't.
Those that do overcome are allowed to eat from the TREE OF LIFE, that tree contains no knowledge of good and evil just allows one to see who is really causing the world to move as it does and kills self will (carnal mind).

In saying all that I still enjoying posting here but the main focus for us all is to align with the New Covenant as well as we can and be patient for the changes that mature us be it day by day or week by week. We all grow according to HIS plan not ours. I would quote Jesus here: John 5:26-27 " For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself. And hath GIVEN HIM AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE JUDGEMENT also, because he is the Son of man."
Remember when I broke down Judgement according to the Greeks. Judgement- a separation, involving a time of crisis, which is a way of knowing. Since he has been given authority to do this I think I will try harder to not get in the way for his judgement is far superior to mine. But I do know how you feel when you discover a new truth you just can't help yourself you want to tell the world, but the world cannot receive it because it is BLINDED.
He also speaks to the fact that there are those among the Churches that claim to be spiritual Jews (The elect) but are not. Rev 3:9, 2:2, 2:9. They are there on purpose to derail you from achieving to a higher inheritance in the Lord. If you overcome what has been placed in your path then you are rewarded accordingly. The rewards spoken of in the 7 letters still apply to ALL of the ELECT today as they did nearly 2000 years ago. Find yourself within the Church that the letter is written to and seek to overcome that issue and be rewarded. Then move on to the next.

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Well this time i read all of your post . I am sorry , there is so much i disagree with . So many errors .

My friend , i know you mean well and are sincere in your efforts.

I will never consider myself as the 'Elect' , even though i already know my path . Jesus taught His Disciples to be the servant of others. Never elate yourself. Let God be the One to do that.

How embarrasing it would be to state , Im of the Elect all your life, then before God being placed as the least in Heaven.

Would you not rather be the servant. In true humility . Then God chosing you to be a Prince in Heaven.

..... who am i to repremand you ... Brother . Ive heard your words . You fail in the Spirit .

Have you not read the fruits of the Holy Spirit . Patience is important . A few messages ago , again , your impatience came through and a little sarcasm came through . I caution you . Please work on the fruits.

For all, friends . Do not think that just because you have been Baptized a Christian , the Holy Spirit is an automatic . Sometimes God delays the comming of the Holy Spirit. Its for His own reasons.

Samson, scripture tells us to Fan into a Flame our Love for God.
Please, brother, do this

 

[Samson2020]

I have seen my new name on the white stone. I can hear the Lords voice when he speaks, my ears and eyes have been opened by him. I can still remember the Baptism in the Holy Ghost as if it were yesterday. I have been sent to do and to say by the command of the Lord.
And he has provided me with opportunity to do the things that he said a true believer would do. This is his way on confirming to us who we are in him, if you have not experienced this yet, your turn will come. So in closing if the things I say bother you that much why don't you just quit reading them or simply refrain from commenting on them. A Jew of the flesh cannot deny what they are and neither can a JEW of the Spirit. I did not make myself anything, he did. If I were to deny being a Jew in the spirit I would be a liar. And in re reading my own post I don't see where I made claim that I chose myself, indeed I have said many times over that it's Gods choice. ".......And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed."
It is quite easy to say that there are many many errors in someones post but to really drive it home you gotta give some scripture and expand the scripture to allow that person to understand what you consider wrong. If you wish to dispute the post then please use scripture to do so instead of just tossing out an I don't agree with you. Thats fine if you can't or don't like it, but tell us why using chapter and verse to back it up otherwise it just muddies the water for those who do agree.

 

[Bill]

It's not a choice. It's a decision.
Jesus knocks. A decision is made to answer or not.
New American Standard Bible
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.

The Bible is as much spiritual as it is literal.
Satan is the Antichrist. He is a spirit.
The temple of God is the body.
I think a lot of people will have red faces when Jesus comes in Glory.
Blink of an eye.

My friend , if i may speak.

The difference between choice and decision was so manute, it wasn't worth making an example out of Sue. .

............ yes, the Bible has many layers . Much text is missed by preachers who like using one line messages . Like in Mark where Jesus is asking , " what is the Kingdom of God like " and then goes through a few stories, the other part of that is each miracle afterwards starts out with weak faith to the greatest faith. All of this from " What is the Kingdom like " to the greatest miricle is one message. It covers a few chapters .

You can find all this starting in Mark 4:26 to Mark 5 : 43

But going back to Scripture . You are right to say there is a spiritual and literal translation . Very good on this . God has touched your heart on this, well done.

 

[Bill]

I have seen my new name on the white stone. I can hear the Lords voice when he speaks, my ears and eyes have been opened by him. I can still remember the Baptism in the Holy Ghost as if it were yesterday. I have been sent to do and to say by the command of the Lord.
And he has provided me with opportunity to do the things that he said a true believer would do. This is his way on confirming to us who we are in him, if you have not experienced this yet, your turn will come. So in closing if the things I say bother you that much why don't you just quit reading them or simply refrain from commenting on them. A Jew of the flesh cannot deny what they are and neither can a JEW of the Spirit. I did not make myself anything, he did. If I were to deny being a Jew in the spirit I would be a liar. And in re reading my own post I don't see where I made claim that I chose myself, indeed I have said many times over that it's Gods choice. ".......And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed."
It is quite easy to say that there are many many errors in someones post but to really drive it home you gotta give some scripture and expand the scripture to allow that person to understand what you consider wrong. If you wish to dispute the post then please use scripture to do so instead of just tossing out an I don't agree with you. Thats fine if you can't or don't like it, but tell us why using chapter and verse to back it up otherwise it just muddies the water for those who do agree.

My brother . I can not , not care. You are so close . Can you not feel the love i have for you my brother.

I know the Spirit is in you . But you must fan it into a flame .

I know you think the spark you have now is a great flame . Let the Love of God consume you .

I have a challange for you . Something beyond you now .

Jesus tells us to pick up your cross and carry it . He tells us to be Holy for God is Holy . Jesus tells us to be like Him.

When Jesus carried His cross , it wasnt his sins or personal burdens. And when He died on the Cross it wasnt His sins he bore but the sins of others. Scripture states , he made them His own. And so offered them up to God in His body.

When Jesus tells us to take up the Cross, and follow Him. It isnt only for ourselves, but to take on the sins of others , those who fail .

My challenge to you is to take upon yourself others sins , and offer them to the Father . Become the son of God by being the servant .