Will I go to hell
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Bob Carabbio
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Depends on what you mean by "Gave myself to God".
IF your were born again of the Holy Spirit through Faith (Heb 11:1), COnvicted of your SIN, surrendered and Repented of your SIN and cried out to God for salvation, then Hell is no longer in your future, and you're CLean before God, and becoming one of His Children.
On the other hand if you just did a personal reformation - "turned over a new leaf" and quit being an OVERT SINNER / as a "religious convert", Then it could be that you're now trusting your good works, and changed behavior to get you into heaven when you die. If so you're in SERIOUS TROUBLE since your "personal reformation" and present good works mean NOTHING of spiritual value, and your life of SIN is still on you.
I'd look closely at what you mean by "Gave myself to God", because it appears that you sense NO RELATIONSHIP with Him, and have NO FAITH in your personal salvation, then you have plenty to be concerned about.
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'The wages of sin is death' (Romans 6:23b)
'sin entered and death by sin.' (Romans 5:12a)
Hi @rstrats,
The penalty of sin is 'death', the physical death of the whole man ( ie., the living soul). 'The soul that sinneth it shall surely die' (Ezekiel 18:4 & 20). Only 'the breath of life' (or 'spirit') will go back to God Who gave it. (Ecclesiastes 12:7).
'The Spirit of God hath made me,
and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.'
(Job 33:4)
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Greetings,
Condemnation often comes to test us. However, the temptation to accept a condemning lie needs to be resisted with truth.
Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life
He is the author and finisher of your faith
He did not offer you salvation in order to condemn you but so that you may be one with Him
Trust Him and do not lean upon your own understanding
Wait on the LORD
He is the good Shepherd Who has laid down His life for you, that He may raise you from death to Life
Trust in the Lord
Bless you ....><>
Condemnation often comes to test us. However, the temptation to accept a condemning lie needs to be resisted with truth.
Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life
He is the author and finisher of your faith
He did not offer you salvation in order to condemn you but so that you may be one with Him
Trust Him and do not lean upon your own understanding
Wait on the LORD
He is the good Shepherd Who has laid down His life for you, that He may raise you from death to Life
Trust in the Lord
Bless you ....><>
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You couldn't pay the debt for my sins, you have your own sins. I can't pay the debt for your sins, I have my own as well.
Jesus could pay the debt for others sins, because He didn't owe a debt for Himself.
Why does God hate sin? Why does anyone hate wickedness. I don't know the reasons for all the rules, but I do know...
Heb 9:22; And according to the Law, one may almost say, all things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Someone had to die and pay the price for our sins.
Why the wrath? This could be part of it.
Matt 21:33; “Listen to another parable. There was a landowner who planted a vineyard and put a wall around it and dug a wine press in it, and built a tower, and rented it out to vine-growers and went on a journey.
Matt 21:34; “When the harvest time approached, he sent his slaves to the vine-growers to receive his produce.
Matt 21:35; “The vine-growers took his slaves and beat one, and killed another, and stoned a third.
Now here is some spiritual discernment required here, but who do you think the landowner is in this story? Who do you think the landowners slaves who are beaten and killed are?
It could be argued these people are the Jews that rejected Jesus, and I would agree, but it isn't just the Jews, it's anyone who rejects Jesus.
Matt 21:36; “Again he sent another group of slaves larger than the first; and they did the same thing to them.
Matt 21:37; “But afterward he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’
Matt 21:38; “But when the vine-growers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir; come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’
Matt 21:39; “They took him, and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.
Who do you think the Son that was killed here is?
Matt 21:40; “Therefore when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vine-growers?”
Matt 21:41; They said to Him, “He will bring those wretches to a wretched end, and will rent out the vineyard to other vine-growers who will pay him the proceeds at the proper seasons.”
What do you think God will do to these people who rejected His Son?
Matt 21:42; Jesus said to them, “Did you never read in the Scriptures, ‘The stone which the builders rejected,
This became the chief corner stone; This came about from the Lord, And it is marvelous in our eyes’?
Who do you think the stone that was rejected here is?
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I would say to show the gospel promise first given in Genesis 3:15 and revisited in Isaiah 53 . The father striking the son bruising the heel the Son crying out for strength to finished the one time demonstration of the Father not eternal seen and Son of man the temporal seen .
The wrath comes because mankind looks to make God into a man . The abomination of desolation
The closing statement revealed in verse 25 . . ."Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (the temporal things seen) more than the Creator, ( the eternal not seen) who is blessed for ever."
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
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DF2021, you have received a plate-full of assorted malarkey mixed with the truth of the Gospel Truth contained in the Scriptures Yashua ha'Mashiah had recorded. (Note: John 1:1-5, every word of the Scriptures, from "In the beginning," through the very last word of The Revelation of The Christ are the words and Commands of Yashua and will be treated as such. The ill treated and mysterious Baptism of The Holy Spirit is nothing of the sort.
When I was Infilled with the Spirit I was singing Auld Ange Sine for a club full of drunks and ***** mongers, people like myself. Immediately, the Ruah instructed me to gather my instruments, equipment and to depart, leaving my paycheck behind and never sought after. Ruah ha'Qodesh, the Holy Spirit in English, is never gone from you, I am convinced. The trick is to submit everything into His control, holding back nothing.
Once infilled and indwelt, you cannot ever again be headed toward the Lake of Fire. If you sin after the Indwelling, and you will, you must work to never do that again, Repent means to go the opposite direction and you'll pay for no sin in Heaven. And since no sin can enter Heaven I cannot compute that and never want to try.
May YHWH Qodesh you your loved ones and all you do in His Holy Name.
When I was Infilled with the Spirit I was singing Auld Ange Sine for a club full of drunks and ***** mongers, people like myself. Immediately, the Ruah instructed me to gather my instruments, equipment and to depart, leaving my paycheck behind and never sought after. Ruah ha'Qodesh, the Holy Spirit in English, is never gone from you, I am convinced. The trick is to submit everything into His control, holding back nothing.
Once infilled and indwelt, you cannot ever again be headed toward the Lake of Fire. If you sin after the Indwelling, and you will, you must work to never do that again, Repent means to go the opposite direction and you'll pay for no sin in Heaven. And since no sin can enter Heaven I cannot compute that and never want to try.
May YHWH Qodesh you your loved ones and all you do in His Holy Name.
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That’s what the water baptism is all about
Dunked under the water fully submerged that represents death then you were brought out of the water that represents rebirth
Born again that’s why they call it born again
And it doesn’t get any easier in fact it’s actually tougher to live by God‘s laws it’s easier to live in the world of Satan because Satan basically says do whatever you want to do with no consequences
he is a liar we know that there will be consequences sheol is not hell it’s a waiting place for judgment when Jesus comes again he will judge the wicked also the righteous
In Sheol according to the Bible the torment they talk about is not a physical torment but a spiritual torment The idea that you will not be with the father for eternity grieves your spirit
This is a great production of the parable describing Sheol in the bible
After which you will be cast into the lake of fire and you will be eternally dead that’s the final death
It Does not get easy just because you were reborn it’s very hard to resist temptation and the enemy doesn’t need to torment the worldly people because they already serve him but he will try to torment the followers of the father and the father himself will test you as described here to build character for good reasons
you will soon learn it’s a lifelong journey to be Christlike that’s the goal is to be as much like Christ as you Can but no one can live without sin and only Jesus Christ could do that you will be tested but know that the test and the trials will have a reward in the end
Read the word because when you read the Bible that is God talking to you
exposing his nature to you
and when you pray that is you talking to God so combine reading the word with prayer and you have a complete communication between you and the father
Have faith shalom
Dunked under the water fully submerged that represents death then you were brought out of the water that represents rebirth
Born again that’s why they call it born again
And it doesn’t get any easier in fact it’s actually tougher to live by God‘s laws it’s easier to live in the world of Satan because Satan basically says do whatever you want to do with no consequences
he is a liar we know that there will be consequences sheol is not hell it’s a waiting place for judgment when Jesus comes again he will judge the wicked also the righteous
In Sheol according to the Bible the torment they talk about is not a physical torment but a spiritual torment The idea that you will not be with the father for eternity grieves your spirit
This is a great production of the parable describing Sheol in the bible
It Does not get easy just because you were reborn it’s very hard to resist temptation and the enemy doesn’t need to torment the worldly people because they already serve him but he will try to torment the followers of the father and the father himself will test you as described here to build character for good reasons
Read the word because when you read the Bible that is God talking to you
exposing his nature to you
and when you pray that is you talking to God so combine reading the word with prayer and you have a complete communication between you and the father
Have faith shalom
But exactly what was the debt paid by the Messiah that would otherwise have to be paid by us?
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Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die.
"Therefore the "death" spoken of here is not annihilation, unconsciousness, or extinction, but spiritual death. All persons presently experience physical death: if death were merely a painless extinction, all sinners would suffer precisely the same lack of punishment, and God’s ways would not be equal. Rather, Scripture teaches future punishment, punishment which varies in severity according to the degree of responsibility of the individual ..."
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I know the answer and you are not going to like it. Because "Man loves darkness rather than Light" And Jesus came in to The world to bear witness also to "THE TRUTH". And some times when the Light comes on it may plunge one deeper into the DARK. If the LIGHT is bright enough it will. And you cannot get no brighter than GOD. But i will give you a "spark". ......... You see, You belong to someone else because some one sold you, and a ransom had to paid to redeem you. Now The price had to be a "Sacrifice" and not a ordinary one, it was a very HIGH PRICE! That a human mind cannot conceive the value. No Human could paid the price to redeem themselves neither do they need to be redeem, neither are they valuable enough to be redeem. Now i am going to stop right here. It is all in the BOOK and revealed in The Person Of JESUS CHRIS, "The SALVATION STORY". many might have to wait until, the appointed day and some won't to receive a little more. And the TRUTH breaks you, Humbles you, in a way that mankind sees it as pride but in "Christ" Broken. And by been broken HE LIVES.
Because I don't see how it is responsive to the question.
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Is not the Title of This Thread a Question? "Will I go to hell" A question is looking for a answer. Unless the world has change the meaning of a question.
A question. I answered it, with a statement. But i see you have your own private definition on how to answer a question. In The United States of American pertaining to The English language I am in order. For I did not answer the question with a question and I did not answer the question with a defensive offense.
I am sorry you do not rule the world nor does it bows to your commands. There were many times i couldn't see things too and how. So calm down, do your computer have a speaking mode with speaker? That is a question.
So why did you quote my question to B-A-C if you were going to respond to a different one, i.e., "Will I go to hell"?
BTW, I don't see what your response to that one had anything to do with it.
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I will say it again in layman terms this time. it is not your "Thread" even if i address your post, all is related to the "Author" of The Title Thread. It is not your Thread. If any should be offended it is the "Author" of "The THREAD" and I will apologize to The "Author' if I offend them with any of my respond.
for give me. for high jacking of any kind. which it was never my intent.Let it die.
And I will ask again, why did you feel the need to quote my question to B-A-C if you had no intention of addressing it?
I would offer first and foremost the word dead must be defined and not as in the transgression by the father of lies( never die )
Genesis 3:4 And the serpent saith unto the woman, `Dying, ye do not die,
But rather dead never to rise again .Dust returns to dust and the temporal spirit given under the letter of the law (death) returns to the Father of all spirit life.
That section of Luke has nothing to do with defining hell which is the daily sufferings we do experience in these bodies of death. Yoked with Christ he makes a our burden lighter and gives us s future living hope, beyond the grave .
Without parables Christ spoke not hiding the gospel understanding. The series of parables to include the last began in chapter 11 of Luke .
Teaching us how to pray .In chapter 16 it is said plainly “no man can serve two good teaching masters coming from one lord. . The faithless Jews sought the dead for the living (necromancy) they were exposed by the light spoken of in Isiah .Catholicism (Phariseeicism) repeats the false doctrine.(Dying, ye do not die)
To the law, as it is written and the testimony. (let there be and it was good) The mark of His word. What God says comes to pass
Both forms of Darash (Seek) are used .
Isaiah 8:19 -20And when they say unto you, `Seek unto those having familiar spirits, And unto wizards, who chatter and mutter, Doth not a people seek unto its God? -- For the living unto the dead! To the law and to the testimony! If not, let them say after this manner, `That there is no dawn to it.'
Luke 16 : 13 . . the meat of the parable. . .. . `No domestic is able to serve two lords, for either the one he will hate, and the other he will love; or one he will hold to, and of the other he will be heedless; ye are not able to serve God and mammon.' (. . . . . . . . The wisdom of this world) And also the Pharisees, being lovers of money, were hearing all these things, and were deriding him, and he said to them, `Ye are those declaring yourselves righteous before men, but God doth know your hearts; because that which among men is high, [is] abomination before God; the law and the prophets [are] till John; since then the reign of God is proclaimed good news, and every one doth press into it;
and it is easier to the heaven and the earth to pass away, than of the law one tittle to fall. `Every one who is sending away his wife, and marrying another, doth commit adultery; and every one who is marrying her sent away from a husband doth commit adultery.`And -- a certain man was rich, and was clothed in purple and fine linen, making merry sumptuously every day, and there was a certain poor man, by name Lazarus, who was laid at his porch, full of sores, and desiring to be filled from the crumbs that are falling from the table of the rich man; yea, also the dogs, coming, were licking his sores. `And it came to pass, that the poor man died, and that he was carried away by the messengers to the bosom of Abraham -- and the rich man also died, and was buried; and in the hades having lifted up his eyes, being in torments, he doth see Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom, and having cried, he said, Father Abraham, deal kindly with me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and may cool my tongue, because I am distressed in this flame.`And Abraham said, Child, remember that thou did receive -- thou -- thy good things in thy life, and Lazarus in like manner the evil things, and now he is comforted, and thou art distressed; and besides all these things, between us and you a great chasm is fixed, so that they who are willing to go over from hence unto you are not able, nor do they from thence to us pass through. `And he said, I pray thee, then, father, that thou mayest send him to the house of my father, for I have five brothers, so that he may thoroughly testify to them, that they also may not come to this place of torment. `Abraham saith to him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them; (the word of God sola scriptura) ) and he said, No, father Abraham, but if any one from the dead may go unto them, they will reform. And he said to him, If Moses and the prophets they do not hear, neither if one may rise out of the dead will they be persuaded.'
We walk by the unseen faith as it is written in the law and prophets not seeking the dead for the living .
In that way we are to let the dead bury the dead . . .faithless
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There's a lot of nonsense that you have received here on this question. Here is the facts: if you decided to come to God and genuinely received salvation by repenting from sin, choosing to walk in obedience to God, which includes receiving water baptism into Christ, and if you are still walking in obedience to God in Christ, then all of your past sins have been forgiven and wiped away forever. The only things you have to do now to keep from going to hell, is to continue walking with God in striving to walk in a righteous lifestyle, practicing what is right in God's eyes, and practicing walking in holiness (keeping yourself from sinful things).
If you do these things, then you have access to God's thrown...but its not over yet. God saves people so that they can enter into His presence in order to spend personal time with Him in prayer and worship so that they can come to know Him personally...
John 17:3
And this is the purpose for giving people eternal life: so that they can come to know You personally, the only truth God, and Jesus Christ whom He has sent.
If you fail to get to know God and Christ, then you got saved for nothing and you can still end up in hell...
Matthew 7:23
And then I will tell them, 'I never knew you: depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.'
Why did people who were in covenant relationship with God still cast into hell? Because while they may have been healing people, casting demons out of people, and performing other miracles in Jesus' name, as only a person in covenant relationship with God can do - they failed to spend time with Him...they failed to get to know God personally, and thus failed to get to know Christ personally.
No one gets into heaven just because they were saved, contrary to much false teaching today. The only thing that gets a person into heaven, is a personal relationship with God built up over time through prayer and worship. Salvation is only the means to get you what you need in order to enter into the presence of a sinless, holy God.
Blessings!
No one gets into heaven just because they were saved, contrary to much false teaching today. The only thing that gets a person into heaven, is a personal relationship with God built up over time through prayer and worship. Salvation is only the means to get you what you need in order to enter into the presence of a sinless, holy God.
Everyone gets into heaven just because they were saved . No one unsaved can enter the new order on the last day under the Sun .
He is our very confidence . our powerful God in time of need . 24/7
Philippians 1: 5-6 For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now; Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Those not saved will not rise on the last day their flesh returns to the dust and temporal spirit given under the letter of the law (death) returns to the father .
The death the letter of the law (the second death) Death will be tossed in the fire of God final judgment . Death will not rise up and condemn by dying to death ever again .
Marvel not you must be born again . not again and again over and over crucifying's Christ to public shame .One demonstration of the two was all that was offered
