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Will Waging War in Syria Save Erdogan? (Rumor of War)

It's factually perspective.
What kind of person and Christian would I be if I lied especially regarding something as essential as water and food?
If we go back through some Bible reminders, things are going to get a LOT worse before they get better.
America used to be in a place where we were doing well and could offer help but we haven't been that way for at least15 years if not more.

You are correct, it will get worst before it gets better.

Concerning being factual, you are sharing your experiences. The fuller picture is always more complex.

Once again I never got a response from you concerning leadership and policy vs money.

Once again, I'm not saying money is not needed so I beg you , don't make the strawman argument telling me
why money is important. I'm not saying money is not.

Listen clearly, ready? Are you listening?? Ok.

I'm saying that your emphasis on money is disproportional to the impact and effect of money.

If my house is burning down, yes it is important to get my belongings out and time should be spend
doing that; but I should spend more time first calling the fire department; putting more time where
the time spent gets more results. So you are putting much emphasis on money which is important (yes
I want my belongs out of the house if it is burning), but you should not elevate it above the importance
of leadership and policy.

Man, I hear you talk about Joe Biden all the time. Clearly you think he has
bad leadership, clearly you do. So practically you are already living out my position. You are talking
about his bad leadership as you see it, but you are ignoring the application to this situation of the
principle that you are already living out (bad leadership),

If you thought John Biden is doing a terrible job, giving his administration more money does not
make him do a better job for our country (Get it?). "Come on mann" you know this, (John Biden accent) loll.
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Stop resisting the truth it is so evident that good leadership is more important than money that it isn't even funny
how clear this truth is.


Once again I'm not saying money is not needed so responding and speaking about all the reasons
we need money shows that you are not listening, I say this with respect.

I'm saying we need to emphasize leadership and good polices more and here is a thought
that perhaps you may have not considered. Maybe if we make a sacrifice in the little that you think
we have, God will reward us and bless us as a nation for being a blessing to others.

Isn't that Biblical??

"Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days."
-Ecclesiastes 11:1

"The principle Solomon seems to be advancing is that we should approach life with an investment mentality. Bread is a way to consume our financial resources, and an investment is a deferral of consumption. Rather than consume our bread (and then it’s gone), we can increase it by investing. The best way to keep something is often to let it go. Interestingly, this is not phrased as a suggestion, but rather a command that asserts cause and effect. To cast our bread on the surface of the waters involves releasing control of something precious, our bread, our money, our sustenance. The Bible generally portrays the sea as an image of chaos. We are being admonished to cast our resources into a sea of uncertainty. The reality is that all of life is a sea of uncertainty.

Whether we launch the bread in a basket or a boat, we don’t have control of where it goes, what storms it might encounter, or what tides it may catch. But Solomon asserts that we will find it after many days. The opposite attitude would be hoarding. Jesus spoke of a man who decided to hoard his possessions by building extra barns and storing all that he had to fund a long and luxurious retirement. But Jesus noted the man died unexpectedly, and his stored grain did him no good (Luke 12:16-21).
Being “rich toward God” requires continuing to invest our resources in the community around us."

Ecclesiastes 11:1-5

Your thoughts are welcomed. God Bless
 
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I state and share facts and evidence far more than opinions. Mine will be preceded by "IMO" of some sort.
I've not quoted you on money.
Now that's absurd. " Listen clearly, ready? Are you listening?? Ok."
What if's are mostly pointless.
Biden is a puppet but again, off topic.
The last war America had on our land was the Civil War. We have the world largest Unofficial Military and there are many Christians and even people who wish no violence in this.
It's not optimal but God's judgment be quick and just on any foreign invaders. In fact, the Marines will expedite this process.
 
I state and share facts and evidence far more than opinions. Mine will be preceded by "IMO" of some sort.
I've not quoted you on money.
Now that's absurd. " Listen clearly, ready? Are you listening?? Ok."
What if's are mostly pointless.
Biden is a puppet but again, off topic.
The last war America had on our land was the Civil War. We have the world largest Unofficial Military and there are many Christians and even people who wish no violence in this.
It's not optimal but God's judgment be quick and just on any foreign invaders. In fact, the Marines will expedite this process.
My friend, facts don't speak. They need to be interpreted.

Many people can look at the same data and have different interpretations.
We all speak from our opinion. God has the truth.
 
Data = (Facts)

Facts -- Need a context and a mind to interpret

Based on who is interpreting, each person has other extra knowledge that is
brought in to give those facts context.

Each observer of the facts also has different biases and values which
leads to point that they will focus on or ignore as the give the facts context,
and then meaning.
 
You stated "You state and share facts",

My friend you are stating your opinion. Which doesn't mean it is wrong. It just means it if your opinion, because
facts have to be interpreted.

You are stating your opinion, based on your interpretation of the facts.

That is why you can take a room full of Democrats and a room full of Republicans and give
them the exact same economic data(facts) about inflation or GDP, or job gains and job losses,
and based on their values (unemployment, stock value vs job gains, etc etc)
and their biases(corporations make too much money, or people without jobs are lazy),
you would get two different positions based on the same data that they are looking at.

The data doesn't talk, people do. Data has to be interpreted by the mind.
Our minds come from people with biases, and values.


And you mentioned "Now that's absurd. " Listen clearly, ready? Are you listening?? Ok."

I apologize for that statement, it didn't come across as respectful, and tone was lost in text.
My apologies. Sorry.
 
@MedicBravo I think we are probably both really off topic from the OP.

Not sure if you want to continue. I can, but not sure if it will be fruitful or needed.
 
@Jesus_is_LORD
This "war" doesn't involve us. We have already sent way too much money to Nazi controlled Ukraine. No cent should have left our country for it or others in "need" when we ourselves are of such and have our own problems.
If you can sleep at night throwing money to other countries and more and more of our legal citizens get worse and even die for some "war" or "needy country" you or anyone else (FACT) need to re-prioritize.
Lastly, it makes more sense; logical, common, logistical, and in the hierarchy God set up to prioritize America.
 
@Jesus_is_LORD
This "war" doesn't involve us. We have already sent way too much money to Nazi controlled Ukraine. No cent should have left our country for it or others in "need" when we ourselves are of such and have our own problems.
If you can sleep at night throwing money to other countries and more and more of our legal citizens get worse and even die for some "war" or "needy country" you or anyone else (FACT) need to re-prioritize.
Lastly, it makes more sense; logical, common, logistical, and in the hierarchy God set up to prioritize America.

Wishing you a merry Christmas. May your day be blessed.

Thanks for taking the time to discuss the previous topic. It has served its purpose.

Enjoy your family and have a Merry Christmas. God bless. I'm sure we will sharpen iron with iron on other threads. Stay blessed. :sun:
 
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