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The Difference between Evil Angels and Demons

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Some Christians get all upset and offended if they hear this (because it touches on their self-righteousness that they and their sins are not "that bad"), but every Christian has two fathers, God and Satan depending upon how a person chooses to live, determines whose child they are. I know Christians, who believe that only God is their Father, and God is their Father, or Father of their spirit if they are truly born again, but according to their sinful lifestyle, Satan is their father (1 John 3:9). No different really to how the Jews thought God was their father and yet Christ said that the devil was their father. As Jews, children of Israel, God was their father, but as murderers and liars, satan was their father (John 8:44). God is the Father of spirits (Heb 12:9), and Satan is the father of fallen flesh because he corrupted mankind with the knowledge of good and evil (1 John 3:8). The purpose of God sending His Son, was to bring people from their old father (satan) to their new Father (God), that is, from their sinful flesh to the Holy Spirit.

Regarding the difference between demons and angels, there is no record of Christ ever casting out an angel from a person, only demons. Demons are spirits/souls without a body (presumably because they had a body to begin with, whether human or some other type of being eg Nephilim) which is why demons want to get inside a body whether human or animal (e.g. pigs Matt 8:31), whereas angels are spiritual beings that do not need a body. A demonic encounter is different to an angelic encounter, a demonic encounter is normally in the form of an evil spirit manifesting through a person or animal, and it can be cast out, but an angelic encounter is normally a direct visitation by a beautiful or perhaps dark and ugly spiritual being as in the case of Joseph Smith and the angel Moroni. Demons seek to inhabit a body mainly for their own self-gratification to inhabit a living body of water as their house because they don't like dry places (Matt 12:43-44), whereas evil angels seek to visit men with a purpose to deceive via a false gospel or doctrine (Gal 1:8). As stated by Gal 1:8, these evil angels can come from Heaven and if we think that all angels that come from heaven are good angels we will surely be deceived as Joseph Smith was. The situation is that Satan and evil angels are free to come and go from heaven until a future time when they will be cast out for good (Job 1:6, Revelation 12). Until then we cannot trust that every angel that comes from heaven is from God. It is probably because angels cannot be trusted that God gave the responsibility for spreading the gospel to men, particularly his chosen apostles.
 
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Too much assumption there in my opinion.

You did not refute what I said about Peter, btw.

Anyways, for all I know you are right. I am fairly certain you are wrong, but I can not prove it to you. Either way, discernment is always necessary. Good fruit does not come from a bad tree, but being able to recognize what fruit is good and what fruit is bad is another story.

I hope you are practicing your ability to discern. You will need it soon.

Peace in Christ
 
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Too much assumption there in my opinion.

You did not refute what I said about Peter, btw.

Anyways, for all I know you are right. I am fairly certain you are wrong, but I can not prove it to you. Either way, discernment is always necessary. Good fruit does not come from a bad tree, but being able to recognize what fruit is good and what fruit is bad is another story.

I hope you are practicing your ability to discern. You will need it soon.

Peace in Christ

Being right or wrong it does not matter only the truth matters and Christ is the truth. As sinners, in our self-righteousness we are always wrong and never right but in Christ we are always right. I wasn't sure if the question about Peter was addressed to me or someone else, but I believe that when Jesus called Peter Satan, he was referring to Peter's human opinions (Matt 16:23) which were coming from the Satanic influence inside of Peter, that is, his fallen flesh with its human concepts and opinions. Satan in this sense is the principle of fallen mankind which is against God's will and purpose. It is not that Peter was literally possessed by Satan (as Judas Iscariot was, where it says that Satan entered him Luke 22:3), or that Peter was literally Satan (as Peter was an outstanding and beloved disciple of Christ). The God Trinity is three fold - Father, Son and Spirit, the Satanic Trinity is threefold - the world, Satan, and the flesh. The term "Satan" can refer to the fallen archangel himself, or his principle and rule, his kingdom, by utilizing the things of the world (drugs, alcohol, nightclubs, Hollywood movies etc) and fallen mankind (the inward influence and temptations of sin inside every person, even the Christian).
 
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Regarding the difference between demons and angels, there is no record of Christ ever casting out an angel from a person, only demons. Demons are spirits/souls without a body (presumably because they had a body to begin with, whether human or some other type of being eg Nephilim) which is why demons want to get inside a body whether human or animal (e.g. pigs Matt 8:31), whereas angels are spiritual beings that do not need a body. A demonic encounter is different to an angelic encounter, a demonic encounter is normally in the form of an evil spirit manifesting through a person or animal, and it can be cast out, but an angelic encounter is normally a direct visitation by a beautiful or perhaps dark and ugly spiritual being as in the case of Joseph Smith and the angel Moroni. Demons seek to inhabit a body mainly for their own self-gratification to inhabit a living body of water as their house because they don't like dry places (Matt 12:43-44), whereas evil angels seek to visit men with a purpose to deceive via a false gospel or doctrine (Gal 1:8). As stated by Gal 1:8, these evil angels can come from Heaven and if we think that all angels that come from heaven are good angels we will surely be deceived as Joseph Smith was. The situation is that Satan and evil angels are free to come and go from heaven until a future time when they will be cast out for good (Job 1:6, Revelation 12). Until then we cannot trust that every angel that comes from heaven is from God. It is probably because angels cannot be trusted that God gave the responsibility for spreading the gospel to men, particularly his chosen apostles.

First off all souls are trapped in hell. Souls DO NOT ROAM the earth. If they did that was before Jesus came. In the OLD TESTAMENT. Jesus made everything new, and clean. Demons are fallen angels. SATANS ANGELS. Not god's angels.

"but an angelic encounter is normally a direct visitation by a beautiful or perhaps dark and ugly spiritual being as in the case of Joseph Smith and the angel Moroni."
Dude that was a demon disguising himself as an angel to deceive to teach false doctrine.

"whereas evil angels seek to visit men with a purpose to deceive via a false gospel or doctrine"
Satans Angels A.K.A. Demons. NOT Human souls, there are no human souls roaming the earth. (Well human souls from hell at least) IF any human souls do roam the earth in their soul form they do it through a form of satanism which they have talked about (had interviews with people who have experienced and done it) on the 700 club. Called an out of body experience. I didn't really watch it, and it was however long ago. I did see a little bit about them talking about this though. Trying to curse christians, or something doing satans work. It was a while ago that was on t.v.

I think you need to do more research on this subject personally. I will too among other things (everything) I need to read about. I will get back to you soon.
 
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First off all souls are trapped in hell. Souls DO NOT ROAM the earth. If they did that was before Jesus came. In the OLD TESTAMENT. Jesus made everything new, and clean. Demons are fallen angels. SATANS ANGELS. Not god's angels.

"but an angelic encounter is normally a direct visitation by a beautiful or perhaps dark and ugly spiritual being as in the case of Joseph Smith and the angel Moroni."
Dude that was a demon disguising himself as an angel to deceive to teach false doctrine.

"whereas evil angels seek to visit men with a purpose to deceive via a false gospel or doctrine"
Satans Angels A.K.A. Demons. NOT Human souls, there are no human souls roaming the earth. (Well human souls from hell at least) IF any human souls do roam the earth in their soul form they do it through a form of satanism which they have talked about (had interviews with people who have experienced and done it) on the 700 club. Called an out of body experience. I didn't really watch it, and it was however long ago. I did see a little bit about them talking about this though. Trying to curse christians, or something doing satans work. It was a while ago that was on t.v.

I think you need to do more research on this subject personally. I will too among other things (everything) I need to read about. I will get back to you soon.

It's an interesting topic and thankyou for expressing your viewpoint and good luck with your research. Regardless whether we think they are the same or different, the important thing is that we believe they exist and that they are evil. I believe that if demons are angels then the Bible would be consistent and use the word angel where it says demons. However I believe the Bible language used is precise and so demon means one thing and angel means another. Some bible verses supporting your views would be appreciated. Also I think if you have have encountered demons you will know that they are disembodied spirits who like to inhabit bodies (eg human or animal) as their house - so no scripture is really necessary to prove that one, it is known by experience. However this is supported by Matthew 8:31 and Matthew 12:43-44, which also explains a demons dislike for dry places - the demons inhabit the sea/ocean, and angels inhabit the air (powers and principalities of the air (Ephesians 6:12). Probably angels can fly and demons can't. Even though they are fallen, satans angels can still access heaven (even the evil ones including satan) and demons can't (no bible verse says that demons enter heaven). Angels are signified by "birds of the air" (Matt 13:4), and demons are signified by crawling and creeping things (Lev 22:5 and others).
 
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Here we will see the difference between Evil Angels and Demons from Scripture. These are two kinds of evil spirits that a Christian may encounter during his lifetime, so it is important to know the difference and how to deal with each. For those who would say they are the "same thing", let me remind you that God's Word, every word, is precise and accurate, so when it says angel, it means angel, and when it says demon, it means demon - not an angel which is actually a demon, or a demon which is actually an angel.


Evil Angels

  • Inhabitants of the air/heavens, sometimes signified by "birds of the air" (Eph 2:2, Gen 15:11, Jude 1:8, Matt 13:19)
  • Originally dwelt in and can access heaven (Job 1:6, Eph 6:12, Rev 12:7-9, Jude 1:8)
  • Don't inhabit human bodies or animals (Jesus never cast an angel or even Satan the archangel out of anyone, He only cast out demons).
  • Are powerful created beings, with some splendor or beauty (2 Cor 11:14), such that only the Lord is qualified to rebuke them (Jude 1:8-9)
  • Cannot be cast out (because they don't dwell in human bodies), can only be rebuked by the Lord (Jude 1:9) and the way to deal with them is to submit to God and resist them (James 4:7)


Demons

  • Like wet places, eg the sea, lakes, bodies (humans, animals, who are mostly water), on the Earth (Luke 11:24, Matt 8:31-32)
  • Sometimes signified by "creeping things" (Lev 11:41-43).
  • Like to inhabit the bodies of human beings or animals (Matt 8:31), Jesus sought to cast them out and told his disciples to cast them out also (Matthew 10:1; Mark 3:14-15; Luke 9:1).
  • Cannot access heaven (there is no record of any demon ever going to heaven).
  • Unlike fallen angels they cannot pretend to be an angel of light, they have no beauty or splendor, are ugly, filthy, earthly, like to live in unclean places such as pigs and tombs (Matt 8:31, Mark 5:3).
  • The way to deal with them, is to cast them out, by the authority and power of Christ in His name. The Bible never says to resist a demon, but to cast it out.

It is easy to understand that evil angels are the 1/3 of angels that rebelled against God from Heaven.

But it is not so clear what the demons are, so here is a suggestion.
Three clues:
1) they feel at home in water, therefore must be used to water.
2) they feel at home in human bodies, therefore must be the spirits of human or human-like creatures.
3) their realm is the Earth, therefore must not have the ability to fly like the angels.


From Scripture there is only one type of creature that would haunt in the seas and inhabit human bodies.
The demons might be the souls/spirits of the human or human-angel (Gen 6:1-2) race that was destroyed by Noah's flood, for whom there was no redemption (unlike Noah and his family and the whole human race since).
You are only confused with terminology. Jesus, Christ and the Lord do not represent diferent people. The same thing with fallen angles and demons, they are the same.
 
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I have heard this theory before. Some claim the unclean spirits are the ghosts of deceased Nephillim.I can not say for certain, but I do not believe this is the case.

Do you remember when Jesus called Peter "Satan?" Is it your claim he meant this allegorically?

Satan has children, as Scripture shows. This is Spiritual. The father of all lies can speak through people when he convinces them to believe a lie.

What is the definition of "unclean?" What is the definition of "beauty?" If it is spiritual, evil angels are unclean and ugly and filthy.

When dealing with them, keep Jude 1:9 in mind. "Yet in the same way these men, also by dreaming, defile the flesh, and reject authority, and revile angelic majesties. But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" But these men revile the things which they do not understand; and the things which they know by instinct, like unreasoning animals, by these things they are destroyed.…"

I do not think that we can really cast out demons in our time. In this age, those marked by the Seal of the Lamb will not be tormented by them. Those who are not will. This rule seems to have no exceptions from what I observe. Even the elect will be tested, but those who are not yet marked by the Seal have them dwelling within them.

When the Gospel was still spreading through the world, it seemed that demons were cast out as a sign of the power of those appointed to spread the Gospel. But now, it seems that a demon will only be removed when a person receives the Seal of God. That is just what I have observed, though, and I could potentially be wrong. However, there is some Scripture that indicates this may be the case but I do not want to assume too much and take it out of contextual meaning.

In conclusion, I do believe this theory is incorrect.
Satan can not reproduce. But those who chose to follow him are called his children
 
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Demons are the offspring of fallen angels and human women. When these creatures die, their spirits are bound to the earth....Its in the book of Enoch. I realize many of you do not like the book of Enoch but it WAS part of the bible for the first four hundred years until the Romanist church had it removed.
 
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Demons are the offspring of fallen angels and human women. When these creatures die, their spirits are bound to the earth....Its in the book of Enoch. I realize many of you do not like the book of Enoch but it WAS part of the bible for the first four hundred years until the Romanist church had it removed.

And the main reason most christians and jews this day and age dont like it, is because it calls them out for the evils they do.
 
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Here we will see the difference between Evil Angels and Demons from Scripture. These are two kinds of evil spirits that a Christian may encounter during his lifetime, so it is important to know the difference and how to deal with each. For those who would say they are the "same thing", let me remind you that God's Word, every word, is precise and accurate, so when it says angel, it means angel, and when it says demon, it means demon - not an angel which is actually a demon, or a demon which is actually an angel.


Evil Angels

  • Inhabitants of the air/heavens, sometimes signified by "birds of the air" (Eph 2:2, Gen 15:11, Jude 1:8, Matt 13:19)
  • Originally dwelt in and can access heaven (Job 1:6, Eph 6:12, Rev 12:7-9, Jude 1:8)
  • Don't inhabit human bodies or animals (Jesus never cast an angel or even Satan the archangel out of anyone, He only cast out demons).
  • Are powerful created beings, with some splendor or beauty (2 Cor 11:14), such that only the Lord is qualified to rebuke them (Jude 1:8-9)
  • Cannot be cast out (because they don't dwell in human bodies), can only be rebuked by the Lord (Jude 1:9) and the way to deal with them is to submit to God and resist them (James 4:7)


Demons

  • Like wet places, eg the sea, lakes, bodies (humans, animals, who are mostly water), on the Earth (Luke 11:24, Matt 8:31-32)
  • Sometimes signified by "creeping things" (Lev 11:41-43).
  • Like to inhabit the bodies of human beings or animals (Matt 8:31), Jesus sought to cast them out and told his disciples to cast them out also (Matthew 10:1; Mark 3:14-15; Luke 9:1).
  • Cannot access heaven (there is no record of any demon ever going to heaven).
  • Unlike fallen angels they cannot pretend to be an angel of light, they have no beauty or splendor, are ugly, filthy, earthly, like to live in unclean places such as pigs and tombs (Matt 8:31, Mark 5:3).
  • The way to deal with them, is to cast them out, by the authority and power of Christ in His name. The Bible never says to resist a demon, but to cast it out.

It is easy to understand that evil angels are the 1/3 of angels that rebelled against God from Heaven.

But it is not so clear what the demons are, so here is a suggestion.
Three clues:
1) they feel at home in water, therefore must be used to water.
2) they feel at home in human bodies, therefore must be the spirits of human or human-like creatures.
3) their realm is the Earth, therefore must not have the ability to fly like the angels.


From Scripture there is only one type of creature that would haunt in the seas and inhabit human bodies.
The demons might be the souls/spirits of the human or human-angel (Gen 6:1-2) race that was destroyed by Noah's flood, for whom there was no redemption (unlike Noah and his family and the whole human race since).
Don't forget....1 Demons also inhabit the dry places
2 They need a body to inhabit to do most of their work. and to experience the things of life. They are spririts but still have ALL the desires of a living body. But they can and will inhabit any body human or animal. Or technology.
3 Their realm is the Earth, which is also their prison... and what makes you think angels can fly? Angels are messengers...but there are two or three other types that are NOT messengers...Only one type is described as having wings...The cherubim. The bible does not mention any 'angelic' beings as having wings, other than the cherubim. How do they fly?
 
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He he Hold on there james!!!! hehe The only evil angel there is in heaven is the devil, there is one evil angel in the bottomless pit as well.( rev 9:11) The rest are indeed demons. Your references as to eph 2:2 is talking about the devil himself, not another angel,for he is called this as well. gen 15:11 Birds of prey is really a long ball as to meaning an evil angel bro! Jude 1:8 is speaking about visions and angels in general please see 2Peter 2:10. matt 13:19 The evil one is the devil not some strange evil angel bro! Job 1:6 The sons of God are not evil,they would not have been called sons if they were,and the devil was with them!

I do not know where you got your information from good brother,but you have bought into some very false doctrine here. I could go on, but I believe you get the point. As far as your reference to Jude 1:9 Michael was going up against an angel who was the very guardian to the throne of God before he fell!(( Ezekiel 28:14-19) The devil,not some evil angel other then the devil. I truly believe for most, the spirit world is complicated enough without looking to add more then what it is bro! If there were evil angels other then the devil in heaven then that would make God part evil as well!!

For one would have to say he created evil angels when he did not create them. I wonder if the scripture you copied down here you looked at? Or just took the author of this garbage at his word?( 2 tim 3:16-17) I am not angry, this is just a gentle rebuke to the words not the person here! The point,people here are going to look at each scripture,and as they do,they will find no way this is true good brother! 2 cor 11:14 is again the devil bro,did you see this?? humm Please do indeed check on anyone who tells you anything about the Word,some are wolves,and to the believer who does not follow the Word itself,they can be caused to stumble,and i know you never wish to do this good brother!!( matt 18:6-7)!!!
Sorry...Fallen angels are not demons... Look at it this way...The fallen angels are all in chains in darkness until judgment....If demons were fallen angels, nobody would be tempted, nobody would be possessed, and nobody would get sick etc....Fallen angels are not demons.
 
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Only one type is described as having wings...The cherubim.

Isa 6:2; Seraphim stood above Him, each having six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.

The seraphim also have wings.

Exod 25:20; The cherubim shall have their wings spread upward, covering the mercy seat with their wings and facing one another; the faces of the cherubim are to be turned toward the mercy seat

I don't know if "all" the fallen angels are imprisoned. Satan certainly isn't. Jude says only the ones that "went after strange flesh" (presumably human women).

This may be a good study subject. :)
 
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All fallen angels were cast down into hell.(2 Peter 2:4) When they come against any child of God they bring hell with them! Satan is a fallen angel and he can inhabit a person as he did with Judas. (Luke 22:3) Jesus said the gates of hell will not be able to come against any revelation given by God to a man. (Matt 16:18)
 
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Isa 6:2; Seraphim stood above Him, each having six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.

The seraphim also have wings.

Exod 25:20; The cherubim shall have their wings spread upward, covering the mercy seat with their wings and facing one another; the faces of the cherubim are to be turned toward the mercy seat

I don't know if "all" the fallen angels are imprisoned. Satan certainly isn't. Jude says only the ones that "went after strange flesh" (presumably human women).

This may be a good study subject. :)
Wow!! What is a Seraphim?! Fiery serpent? Really?! And that is a member of what we classify as 'Angels'
So they're described as the Cherubim are but the meaning of the name is totally different. And yes. They too have wings.
 
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Isa 6:2; Seraphim stood above Him, each having six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.

The seraphim also have wings.

Exod 25:20; The cherubim shall have their wings spread upward, covering the mercy seat with their wings and facing one another; the faces of the cherubim are to be turned toward the mercy seat

I don't know if "all" the fallen angels are imprisoned. Satan certainly isn't. Jude says only the ones that "went after strange flesh" (presumably human women).

This may be a good study subject. :)
Does that mean human women are strange? LOL They do think funny but.....ha ha
 
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All fallen angels were cast down into hell.(2 Peter 2:4) When they come against any child of God they bring hell with them! Satan is a fallen angel and he can inhabit a person as he did with Judas

None of my Bibles have the word "all" in 2 Pet 2:4; I think we have to be careful about making assumptions like that.
 
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Gen 19:10; But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot into the house with them, and shut the door.
Gen 19:11; They struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway.

Two things I notice in this passage. The angels physically "reached out their hands" and grabbed Lot, and pulled him
into the house. It seems angels can physically touch us some times.

Also it seems these angels had the power to strike the men outside with blindness.
 
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Jude 1:9; But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"

Michael is an "arch" angel. I have heard there were three. Gabriel, and Satan (before the fall).
But the only one named as an archangel that I could find in the Bible is Michael.

I Daniel 8 and 9, also Luke 1. There is an angel named Gabriel. This is the angel that told Mary she would have a child.

In the canonical Bible, those are the only three angels that are specifically named.
In the un-canonized book of Enoch the "chiefs" of the angels are mentioned in Enoch 7:9;

9; These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel, Saraknyal, Asael, Armers, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel, Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal. These were the prefects of the two hundred angels, and the remainder were all with them.

Enoch 8 says certain angels taught men certain technologies. It names the angels there also.

It seems the angels in heaven do not marry. ( Matt 22:30; Mark 12:25; ) we will not be married in heaven either.

There are over two hundred verses in the Bible that mention angel or angels. Almost all of them address angels
as male figures. The only possible exception in the entire Bible is Zech 5:9; but not all scholars believe these are angels. (Maybe it has to do with the wicked woman in the can (ephah)?)

I am not sure how many of these verses are confused with things that aren't angels. Even God.
For example, there are dozens of paintings of Jacob wrestling an angel.

Jacob wrestling with the angel - Wikipedia
Daily Bible Reading Devotional [Genesis 32:22-31] – September 28th, 2016
Jacob wrestling the angel

But in Gen 32:22-32; it never says it was an angel.
Why do we assume it was an angel?
 
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In the un-canonized book of Enoch the "chiefs" of the angels are mentioned in Enoch 7:9;

9; These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel, Saraknyal, Asael, Armers, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel, Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal. These were the prefects of the two hundred angels, and the remainder were all with them.

Those were the chiefs of the fallen angels, the ones who disobeyed God in how they were to deal with mankind.

Enoch 8 says certain angels taught men certain technologies. It names the angels there also.

It seems the angels in heaven do not marry. ( Matt 22:30; Mark 12:25; ) we will not be married in heaven either.

There are over two hundred verses in the Bible that mention angel or angels. Almost all of them address angels
as male figures. The only possible exception in the entire Bible is Zech 5:9; but not all scholars believe these are angels. (Maybe it has to do with the wicked woman in the can (ephah)?)

Angels are spirit, but they have the ability to change their form, this can be found in Enoch as well. Most just tend to pick the male form when appearing to mankind. I could speculate why, but speculation usually doesnt help much.

I am not sure how many of these verses are confused with things that aren't angels. Even God.
For example, there are dozens of paintings of Jacob wrestling an angel.

Jacob wrestling with the angel - Wikipedia
Daily Bible Reading Devotional [Genesis 32:22-31] – September 28th, 2016
Jacob wrestling the angel

But in Gen 32:22-32; it never says it was an angel.
Why do we assume it was an angel?

30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for, said he, I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Ancient people would often attribute angels as God. Many have speculated that Abraham spoke with God about his nephew Lot and His judgement of Sodom. We werent there in either case to verify, even if we have the ability to verify. So its assumed that its angels speaking the words of God (which carry GREAT weight and convey an importance upon the bearer). That being said, if angels can change their form from Spirit to physical, surely God could as well if He wished to.
 
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