video 10 Reasons Racism is Offensive to God

[Brother-Paul]

Because we are still sinners. Christians lies, christians commit adultery, christians are committing abortions, christians are committing fornication, christians are stealing, christians are deceiving people, christians are into same sex partners, christians are getting divorces, They do these with justification and supported by the church. Some Christians are racist and know it and some are racist and don't know it.
and the answers has always been the same through the media,, "we need programs, we need counseling, we have to set up committees, we need to be educated.

What i will say, what no one is saying! Christians need to read their own Bibles at home from front to back, until they know the whole BOOK!

Instead of spending millions of dollars on committees and programs. It is only a trick where we pay people to be on committees and head of programs making them rich! And the most "segregated day of the week" is Sunday "! The day of "The Sun God"! That is why, it is called "SUN-DAY"! and christians feels no guilt about it.

ON Sunday here in America, There are Christian black churches, white Christians churches, Japanese-American Christian Churches, Chaldeans Christian Churches, Jewish Christian churches, Korean christian churches, Greek Christian Churches, and on and on, it goes, not saying that some are not mix.

The "sin" is that a lot of people think they are better than someone else. And most of the time, earnings makes a person thinks that they are better than some one else, and most christians are at the top of the list in thinking in such matters.

The beast of racism is "economics'! "For money is the root of all kinds of evil"!

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

New Living Translation
For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows.

English Standard Version
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

Berean Study Bible
For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. By craving it, some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows.

I know, it is hard for christians to understand that, In great proportions!
If the Gospel of Jesus Christ is being proclaim right, Christians would know this! "labor not [Hard] for the food that perishes but for the food...etc.


Webster's Bible Translation
Labor not for the food which perisheth, but for that food which endureth to everlasting life, which the Son of man will give to you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

PS Is it racism or is it "hate"? and does one really knows what hate really it is? How does God defines hate in "Holy Scripture"? Racism := Hate.

Sorry brother, I cannot agree with your comment regarding money.

Although money can effect a way people think, causing them to consider class distinctions, money is not what motivates that cop, it was a hate of black people.

There have been so many examples of black people being singled out and picked on by the cops, the hated is deep in their profession.

But it can go the other way, this morning I read in the UK, a black guy saying he is picked on because he is black, he may be, be he may also be using it to his benefit.

In prospective when I consider the situation in USA, I think to myself, 90% of the people are probably none Christian, although many may call themselves Christian. In this I include, the demonstrators, the cops, the politicians.
The devil loves to set people against each other and he sure is with this situation.

I don't think for one minute what this cop did, or others like him, was a one off situation. There was probably more pressure added to this man due to his size and strength, but 8 minutes kneeling on his neck is a long time.

The cops have built up an image over the last 50 years or so, they got to be hard to survive, they got to be hard to keep their job, I appreciate it is not an easy job, but I do feel there is a definite hate for black people.

It is so sad to see, but we look from a Christian prospective, in love for each other not hate, for life and not death, for peace and not riots and more.

How easy these things flare up in these times, hearts are already hardened.

People will seek peace but they will not find it, these flare ups will no doubt increase, it is wrong what was done for sure, but I also think it is also a sign of the times.

 

[Brother-Paul]

Money is not the root of all evil, but evil/wickedness will always be found where there is money.

 

[Russ Niewiarowski]

Adam and Eve were niether white or black but of thhhe genetic proclivity to produce lighter and darker shades....these later grouped together and reinforced these alleles... We are all one in Christ

Bother Paul, nothing is said in scripture as to the appearance of Adam and Eve. I do not buy the theory that within Adam and Eve were all the genes to produce all “kinds” of human diversity, anymore than I buy the Big Bang theory. God created all “kinds” of plants, animals, birds, fishes... God personally and intimately fashioned every living creature, every mineral, every grain of sand, every known element, even bacteria. Can two Chinese produce one black? Can two black produce one white? Can two white produce one brown? The answer is no. In the natural world, one kind produces the same kind. Zebras produce zebras. Zebras do not produce donkeys or horses. The same applies in mankind. The only explanation of how mankind became diverse kinds has to be an act of God. The miracle of Babel changed mankind to multiple diverse kinds - each with a new appearance, language and culture. These new tribes scattered amongst the earth became the diverse nations of the world. This miracle made Satan’s job more difficult to unify man to build his kingdom. Satan devised racism and war to slowly bring mankind back together. Some 4,500 years latter, here we are at the steps of Babel, rebuilding its glory as the global new world order. Building Satan’s kingdom of one political/economic/religious system. Interesting how COVID-19 has become the mortar to solidify this new Tower of Babel who’s global theme song is “We are all in this together.”

 

[Hekuran]

Bother Paul, nothing is said in scripture as to the appearance of Adam and Eve. I do not buy the theory that within Adam and Eve were all the genes to produce all “kinds” of human diversity, anymore than I buy the Big Bang theory. God created all “kinds” of plants, animals, birds, fishes... God personally and intimately fashioned every living creature, every mineral, every grain of sand, every known element, even bacteria. Can two Chinese produce one black? Can two black produce one white? Can two white produce one brown? The answer is no. In the natural world, one kind produces the same kind. Zebras produce zebras. Zebras do not produce donkeys or horses. The same applies in mankind. The only explanation of how mankind became diverse kinds has to be an act of God. The miracle of Babel changed mankind to multiple diverse kinds - each with a new appearance, language and culture. These new tribes scattered amongst the earth became the diverse nations of the world. This miracle made Satan’s job more difficult to unify man to build his kingdom. Satan devised racism and war to slowly bring mankind back together. Some 4,500 years latter, here we are at the steps of Babel, rebuilding its glory as the global new world order. Building Satan’s kingdom of one political/economic/religious system. Interesting how COVID-19 has become the mortar to solidify this new Tower of Babel who’s global theme song is “We are all in this together.”

Fair enough to point out to Brother Paul that the Bible says nothing about Adam's appearance.

But what you follow with is also pure speculation. The tower of Babel incident talks about language, not race. You havent based your comments on rebuilding the tower for a new world order on any Biblical foundation, and its not clear to me what that foundation might be.

 

[PloughBoy]

Sorry brother, I cannot agree with your comment regarding money.

Although money can effect a way people think, causing them to consider class distinctions, money is not what motivates that cop, it was a hate of black people.

There have been so many examples of black people being singled out and picked on by the cops, the hated is deep in their profession.

But it can go the other way, this morning I read in the UK, a black guy saying he is picked on because he is black, he may be, be he may also be using it to his benefit.

In prospective when I consider the situation in USA, I think to myself, 90% of the people are probably none Christian, although many may call themselves Christian. In this I include, the demonstrators, the cops, the politicians.
The devil loves to set people against each other and he sure is with this situation.

I don't think for one minute what this cop did, or others like him, was a one off situation. There was probably more pressure added to this man due to his size and strength, but 8 minutes kneeling on his neck is a long time.

The cops have built up an image over the last 50 years or so, they got to be hard to survive, they got to be hard to keep their job, I appreciate it is not an easy job, but I do feel there is a definite hate for black people.

It is so sad to see, but we look from a Christian prospective, in love for each other not hate, for life and not death, for peace and not riots and more.

How easy these things flare up in these times, hearts are already hardened.

People will seek peace but they will not find it, these flare ups will no doubt increase, it is wrong what was done for sure, but I also think it is also a sign of the times.

Something is awfully wrong here. I was addressing "Racism" not "white against black! Or cops against blacks! If you reread my post it is addressed about evil and it's source. And "racism" is a mere "tentacle". Through out Biblical History written through out the Bible wars and killings has mostly about "economics" Story after story, crops, fields, herds, slaves, land filled with milk and honey, one farmers has more than another, one group of workers robbing another worker, not being paid enough. " Jesus even said why are you mad at me, did not we agree to such a wage." There are countless of stories in the bible of men and women recorded there "unsung hero's, But many of Christians count them as unworthy to spend there time in study such people,
Why do i say that, because i can tell, by the words they print and the words that come out of their mouths. Especially when you tell them to read their entire bible from from to back, then they grow horns on their heads and attack you just because you told them to read the complete Bible in Context.

I will repeat this verse of the text again, with a little more flavor:

8If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content. 9But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. 10For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

One key word is "longing" it produce a wandering away. "produce" is sometimes a "fruit". My brothers an sisters in Christ, you know how to eat and digest scripture and you not need anyone to regurgitate it to you. You know how to chew every word carefully and then swallow.

Sorry if i did not express my concerns correctly in the previously posts concerning this threads title.

Bother Paul, nothing is said in scripture as to the appearance of Adam and Eve. I do not buy the theory that within Adam and Eve were all the genes to produce all “kinds” of human diversity, anymore than I buy the Big Bang theory. God created all “kinds” of plants, animals, birds, fishes... God personally and intimately fashioned every living creature, every mineral, every grain of sand, every known element, even bacteria. Can two Chinese produce one black? Can two black produce one white? Can two white produce one brown? The answer is no. In the natural world, one kind produces the same kind. Zebras produce zebras. Zebras do not produce donkeys or horses. The same applies in mankind. The only explanation of how mankind became diverse kinds has to be an act of God. The miracle of Babel changed mankind to multiple diverse kinds - each with a new appearance, language and culture. These new tribes scattered amongst the earth became the diverse nations of the world. This miracle made Satan’s job more difficult to unify man to build his kingdom. Satan devised racism and war to slowly bring mankind back together. Some 4,500 years latter, here we are at the steps of Babel, rebuilding its glory as the global new world order. Building Satan’s kingdom of one political/economic/religious system. Interesting how COVID-19 has become the mortar to solidify this new Tower of Babel who’s global theme song is “We are all in this together.”

Well at least we know how everything is going to turn out. Man cannot take two whites and make one brown! But like you said: GOD can! [ HE can take two whites and make a brown]! or a yellow one or a red one, or a blue one if He choses to do so. "For with God nothing is impossible" Can two white horses produce a brown one? Can two black horses produce a "Pinto", Can two Palominos' produce a white horses,

And how do we know If Adam was not Black and Eve was white? One was a female and one was male? How do well not know if "Eve was not a "NUBIAN Queen and Adam was not a Asian Prince"? Is there a recording of their colors, If you ask me i think one was Black and one was white! But that is my opinion! My field is not in breeding.

 

[Brother-Paul]

Is it not possible that in considering the variations in colour we are jumping from white to black, black to white and not considering the shades in between. By that I am referring more over time than between the colours.

An example would be that all were half cast at the time of Babel, and all of one tongue. We know God mixed there language, the way the babel at that time but colour is not mentioned.

Now as the people were scattered, some to the northern hemispheres, some to the southern hemispheres, so in effect some would go to colder countries, some to warmer ones, some to very hot ones. Overtime completions changed due to the parts of the world they lived.

If white people go to sunnier countries they get sun burnt faster than the locals in that country, the more they sun burn the darker they become, whereas a person going to iceland would be paler in complexion. Our bodies adjust to the weather, the temperatures, the sun, our bodies adjust to the things we eat, the things we do over time.

Babel was 1000's of years ago, it seems feasible to me, not having a definitive answer from scripture that this could be possible.

If God could take language and mix it, he did. He is also capable of changing the way we look, immediately or over time. He is the creator, the master craftsman, He is God and nothing is impossible for God.

 

[Brother-Paul]

Bother Paul, nothing is said in scripture as to the appearance of Adam and Eve. I do not buy the theory that within Adam and Eve were all the genes to produce all “kinds” of human diversity, anymore than I buy the Big Bang theory. God created all “kinds” of plants, animals, birds, fishes... God personally and intimately fashioned every living creature, every mineral, every grain of sand, every known element, even bacteria. Can two Chinese produce one black? Can two black produce one white? Can two white produce one brown? The answer is no. In the natural world, one kind produces the same kind. Zebras produce zebras. Zebras do not produce donkeys or horses. The same applies in mankind. The only explanation of how mankind became diverse kinds has to be an act of God. The miracle of Babel changed mankind to multiple diverse kinds - each with a new appearance, language and culture. These new tribes scattered amongst the earth became the diverse nations of the world. This miracle made Satan’s job more difficult to unify man to build his kingdom. Satan devised racism and war to slowly bring mankind back together. Some 4,500 years latter, here we are at the steps of Babel, rebuilding its glory as the global new world order. Building Satan’s kingdom of one political/economic/religious system. Interesting how COVID-19 has become the mortar to solidify this new Tower of Babel who’s global theme song is “We are all in this together.”

Fair enough to point out to Brother Paul that the Bible says nothing about Adam's appearance.

But what you follow with is also pure speculation. The tower of Babel incident talks about language, not race. You havent based your comments on rebuilding the tower for a new world order on any Biblical foundation, and its not clear to me what that foundation might be.

Brother-Paul (With the hyphen and with The Dove)

I agree with brother Hekuran here.

The one thing I would add regarding Babel is this. God, as we know mixed up the spoken language of the time, creating new languages, new forms of babelling across the earth. He did so because of their sin, he did so because he knew we are better off as groups, tribes, smaller communities of people, he did so to save us from ourselves.

Interesting, I think, in these latter days of the end times, the devil is at work preparing for the anti christ and taking control of the world in the great tribulation period. What we see today, before our very eyes, is satan at work bringing the world together, back into one tongue!

It is amazing what is happening around us, the world and one tongue is here now. Go to google type a message, click the language and there we have what we want to say in any language worldwide. We can even make it talk the language at the click of a button.

What ever God does to protect us, the devil does to reverse it and lead us astray. Should we be surprised? I think not. after all we as born again believers know where it is all heading.

 

[Russ Niewiarowski]

Fair enough to point out to Brother Paul that the Bible says nothing about Adam's appearance.

But what you follow with is also pure speculation. The tower of Babel incident talks about language, not race. You havent based your comments on rebuilding the tower for a new world order on any Biblical foundation, and its not clear to me what that foundation might be.

The Bible is silent as to how the diversity of man “kinds” came to be. You can speculate and come to your own conclusion. The Bible does say that God Himself changed man’s language from one to “many” and scattered the many around the world. The Bible says that God is the Potter and we are the clay. I stand by my belief that God created the diversity of mankind at the time of Babel. This “miracle” refashioned the singular man into many- each with its own distinct physical characteristics, language, culture, mindset, and even skills and talents. This diversity is meant to glorify God, for God takes pleasure in the diversity of all nations. Satan, to counter this change to mankind, seeks to destroy this cultural diversity by pitting culture against culture until mankind unites into one ideology and system as it was at the time of Babel.

Revelation clearly reveals that mankind will surrender to one such system and we see this coming to be. The Roman Empire did not cease, it split into two. The Modern Western culture is a derivative and continuation of the Roman Empire. America is the dominate expression of that empire - the recognized sole superpower that is policing the world, seeking to force all other nations to submit to their Western culture system , economic and ideology. America, like Rome could care less about what religion you follow as long as you embrace their system. But COVID-19 has drastically changed and disrupted man’s system. Who comes out on top is anyone’s guess.

It is still unclear to me where the Antichrist’s seat of power in will be, but his power will be global and no man, rich or poor will be able to buy or sell, lest he have the mark of the beast “in” his hand or forehead. They have the technology to make this happen. They have the desire to unify the nations as one, except Iran, the only nation on earth refusing to bow to the (Western) beast. The Lord can return at any moment, then the man of sin will rise and sit upon his throne.

 

[PloughBoy]

Is it not possible that in considering the variations in colour we are jumping from white to black, black to white and not considering the shades in between. By that I am referring more over time than between the colours.

An example would be that all were half cast at the time of Babel, and all of one tongue. We know God mixed there language, the way the babel at that time but colour is not mentioned.

Now as the people were scattered, some to the northern hemispheres, some to the southern hemispheres, so in effect some would go to colder countries, some to warmer ones, some to very hot ones. Overtime completions changed due to the parts of the world they lived.

If white people go to sunnier countries they get sun burnt faster than the locals in that country, the more they sun burn the darker they become, whereas a person going to iceland would be paler in complexion. Our bodies adjust to the weather, the temperatures, the sun, our bodies adjust to the things we eat, the things we do over time.

Babel was 1000's of years ago, it seems feasible to me, not having a definitive answer from scripture that this could be possible.

If God could take language and mix it, he did. He is also capable of changing the way we look, immediately or over time. He is the creator, the master craftsman, He is God and nothing is impossible for God.

I do understand your speculations, And we both have a understanding of God's ways, and we both do understand, His ways are not like ours. And we both know that just because the People are of one language do not mean they were born of one color by God. For this is possible too! For such things are not recorded. For many of times I have seen, people of different color [race]. and they look like someone i know of a different race. They had the same features, the same gestures. but of a different race. So it could also be a possibility, our 1st fathers and mothers produce a variances in colors and features, and maybe this cause the 1st divide of "multiplying through out the world, but it did not work" due to the fall. For it was the will of God from the beginning and It was furthered through the "Tower of Babel" buy spreading them though out the world. by diversifying their language.


Now you see, i can speculate as well. to fill in the blanks. Now am i saying that dividing people into different races, is for anger? answer: NO! The purpose is to mutilply the whole earth and to trade resources to accomplish His purpose for something brand New, in the eternal. So is, dividing the races is about racism no, it was so the people would multiply all the four corners of the world no matter what color they are. Language is a strong motivation rather than color, pertaining to human relationships of multiplying. The Bible testifies to this! from Genesis to Revelation. Be ye fruitful and multiply!

1And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. 2“The fear of you and the terror of you will be on every beast of the earth and on every bird of the sky; with everything that creeps on the ground, and all the fish of the sea, into your hand they are given. 3“Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. 4“Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. 5“Surely I will require your lifeblood; from every beast I will require it. And from every man, from every man’s brother I will require the life of man.
6“Whoever sheds man’s blood,
By man his blood shall be shed,
For in the image of God
He made man.

7“As for you, be fruitful and multiply;
Populate the earth abundantly and multiply in it.”

God did not tell them to be happy and live "the American Dream" He said "MULTIPLY"! "POPULATE" the earth! I wonder how you are going to to that? So in layman terms Men, what does that mean? are you still so dull of hearing! If God says: Populate and multiply. What do you think the Devil is saying???? He gives excuses!

But i know many will say; God has change His mind and is no longer "Immutable".

 

[Hekuran]

We're beginning to drift badly from the original topic. The reaction in the USA to the racism behind the murder of George Floyd is the most widespread protest for decades.

What, as followers of Jesus, should we be doing and saying in response?

 

[Russ Niewiarowski]

I do understand your speculations, And we both have a understanding of God's ways, and we both do understand, His ways are not like ours. And we both know that just because the People are of one language do not mean they were born of one color by God. For this is possible too! For such things are not recorded. For many of times I have seen, people of different color [race]. and they look like someone i know of a different race. They had the same features, the same gestures. but of a different race. So it could also be a possibility, our 1st fathers and mothers produce a variances in colors and features, and maybe this cause the 1st divide of "multiplying through out the world, but it did not work" due to the fall. For it was the will of God from the beginning and It was furthered through the "Tower of Babel" buy spreading them though out the world. by diversifying their language.


Now you see, i can speculate as well. to fill in the blanks. Now am i saying that dividing people into different races, is for anger? answer: NO! The purpose is to mutilply the whole earth and to trade resources to accomplish His purpose for something brand New, in the eternal. So is, dividing the races is about racism no, it was so the people would multiply all the four corners of the world no matter what color they are. Language is a strong motivation rather than color, pertaining to human relationships of multiplying. The Bible testifies to this! from Genesis to Revelation. Be ye fruitful and multiply!

1And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. 2“The fear of you and the terror of you will be on every beast of the earth and on every bird of the sky; with everything that creeps on the ground, and all the fish of the sea, into your hand they are given. 3“Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. 4“Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. 5“Surely I will require your lifeblood; from every beast I will require it. And from every man, from every man’s brother I will require the life of man.
6“Whoever sheds man’s blood,
By man his blood shall be shed,
For in the image of God
He made man.

7“As for you, be fruitful and multiply;
Populate the earth abundantly and multiply in it.”

God did not tell them to be happy and live "the American Dream" He said "MULTIPLY"! "POPULATE" the earth! I wonder how you are going to to that? So in layman terms Men, what does that mean? are you still so dull of hearing! If God says: Populate and multiply. What do you think the Devil is saying???? He gives excuses!

But i know many will say; God has change His mind and is no longer "Immutable".

Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons? We will never know

What was the Antediluvian life and culture like? We will never know

From Adam to the Tower of Babel was approx 2,354 years. And what we do know is that mankind was singular, meaning one cultural mindset and one language. How far did mankind venture geographically after the ark rested on Mt Ararat? We will never know

But based on Cain and Able, we do know that righteous and evil coexisted within mankind a characteristic inherent in all men, regardless of culture or language. The sin nature knows no color. Man, no matter how developed his righteous thoughts or intents may be, can not escape the sin nature thread that binds all men as one. Thank God for sending His only begotten Son to free us from the curse of sin.

 

[Russ Niewiarowski]

We're beginning to drift badly from the original topic. The reaction in the USA to the racism behind the murder of George Floyd is the most widespread protest for decades.

What, as followers of Jesus, should we be doing and saying in response?

The current protests in America and now the world is not about a race war as the media would have you believe. The unseen truth is about economics and granting more power to the elites in the upper circle.

The common folk on the bottom of the food chain clearly see the injustice in our system and they are well aware of the corruption at the top of the system.

This all reminds me of Spartacus. He was branded a Roman slave and fought in the arena to entertain the Romans. He eventually rose up against the establishment with a band of former gladiators and slaves to seriously challenge the Roman Empire’s System.

American is no different than Rome, and common folk are rising up against the unjust system. Only, these protestors today do not have a Spartacus.

This uprising against injustice will only wax worse. I believe our current president and all would be president and politician hopefuls have all become accustomed to the lust of power and pleasure and have no genuine desire to share it under their guess of equality.

Look at Jeffry Epstein - he violated thousands of innocent young girls and trafficked them for pleasure for his circle of elite friends. These girls lives were ruined and Epstein laughed at our justice system while continuing his obsession with perversion until his very death.

Where is the outrage in this double standard for the elite?

Where is the outrage for the current unlimited use of power the Governor’s are yielding during this pandemic that has destroyed millions of lives?

Where is the outrage for the lack of social distancing of these protesters while the rest of us are forced to comply?

Where is the outrage from churches and congregants as to being forced to shut their churches for 3 months then limit how many can enter reopened churches?

Where is the outrage for our liberal education system that is polluting the minds of young students , brainwashing them into submitting to their Godless religion of science and political correctness?

The list goes on and on...

George Floyd’s murder is just the straw that broke the camel’s back. The amount of injustice and corruption in America reaches the heavens! Don’t hold your breath waiting for the swamp to be drained. The old swimmers are simply being replaced with new swimmers.

 

[Hekuran]

I'm seeing plenty of outrage spilling out everywhere. People are clearly - understandably-- very, very angry.

What is the best, wisest and most Christlike response to it?

 

[PloughBoy]

Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons? We will never know

What was the Antediluvian life and culture like? We will never know

From Adam to the Tower of Babel was approx 2,354 years. And what we do know is that mankind was singular, meaning one cultural mindset and one language. How far did mankind venture geographically after the ark rested on Mt Ararat? We will never know

But based on Cain and Able, we do know that righteous and evil coexisted within mankind a characteristic inherent in all men, regardless of culture or language. The sin nature knows no color. Man, no matter how developed his righteous thoughts or intents may be, can not escape the sin nature thread that binds all men as one. Thank God for sending His only begotten Son to free us from the curse of sin.

Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons? .....My Answer: The Bible implicitly express that they did thought out "Holy Scripture" in Biblical context. For God on many times use the expression concerning the "Umbilical cord' as a "anthropomorphic word". so in most essence they did.

"From Adam to the Tower of Babel was approx 2,354 years." You got me on that one. i have no idea, or could estimate even into "approximation" of years in between.

"And what we do know is that mankind was singular, meaning one cultural mindset and one language" < In which I disagree to this quote.
Man was not singular in mindset and of one language, before the flood, then after the flood, up unto the "Tower Of Babel". For "Holy Scripture" testifies of my "Stance". I am not saying you are in complete error, for in which you are not. It is most likely how you are addressing the text of Scripture and how you have heard it, in its proclamation.

Speaking here of after the flood: [Genesis chapter 9- chapter 10 only] "each son of Noah had sons and each son had sons that went into clans, and each clan of each son, sons had a different language, meaning a different "Dialect" of One language. Remember one language can have many different dialects. I hope i do not have to go further in explaining this. Different dialects produce different cultures although they are the same language.


you said this also, in which i am in agreement.

But based on Cain and Able, we do know that righteous and evil coexisted within mankind a characteristic inherent in all men, regardless of culture or language. The sin nature knows no color. Man, no matter how developed his righteous thoughts or intents may be, can not escape the sin nature thread that binds all men as one. Thank God for sending His only begotten Son to free us from the curse of sin.
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[Chad]

Don't think I agree with this. That police officer seemed to be motivated by something other than money to kill a man by kneeling on his neck. I'm not sure what.

And with the best will in the world, knowing your Bible front and back is not going to bring an end to racism. Christians actually have to do something: Repent, then work together to build better communities, harmony, trust across racial divides.

Everyone on the planet has to repent.

 

[Chad]

What sorrow for those who say that evil is good and good is evil, that dark is light and light is dark, that bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter. What sorrow for those who are wise in their own eyes and think themselves so clever. What sorrow for those who are heroes at drinking wine and boast about all the alcohol they can hold. They take bribes to let the wicked go free, and they punish the innocent. Therefore, just as fire licks up stubble and dry grass shrivels in the flame, so their roots will rot and their flowers wither. For they have rejected the law of the Lord of Heaven’s Armies; they have despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. (Isaiah 5:20-24 NLT)

 

[PloughBoy]

I'm seeing plenty of outrage spilling out everywhere. People are clearly - understandably-- very, very angry.

What is the best, wisest and most Christlike response to it?

Tell the Truth!

 

[brighthouse98]

It is a real shame that we witnessed just how many shipwrecked there faith!( 1 Tim 1:19)

 

[Hekuran]

Yes! repent, tell the truth. Totally agree.

I've got a couple of suggestions to throw out. It's based on my conviction that the church should be an exemplar, a witness to the world, of healthy community that embraces all cultures, races and classes in all their marvellous diversity. heplful? realistic? naive?

First, we should learn to listen and understand the experiences and perspectives of people from different backgrounds to us. Invest in conversations with people from different races, asking thoughtful questions: 'tell me what does it feel like to you to see this week's news?' or 'what do you think people from my background fail to understand about your experience?'

Second, invest in relationships with people -- fellow christians especially -- who are different to us. Slave or free, Greek or Jew. Our unity in Christ is far greater than any superficial divisons.

Third, use whatever influence you have to push for healthier multicultural church. Ask your leaders awkward questions: 'Do you have a target for racial diversity in your church leadership?' or 'do you track which groups get to hold the mike in church services?' 'Is there a plan for change, does it have targets and a timescale?' 'When did you last discuss this in leadership meetings?'

Follow up the awkwardness with a commitment to make a difference and to support leaders in whatever way you can.

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Imagine in 15 years time the same outrage bursts out that we've seen in the past few weeks. But this time, a fully diverse represetative church can stand as one both calling out the evil, and demonstrating how to heal divisions and to live together.

 

[Trevor]

Yes! repent, tell the truth. Totally agree.

I've got a couple of suggestions to throw out. It's based on my conviction that the church should be an exemplar, a witness to the world, of healthy community that embraces all cultures, races and classes in all their marvellous diversity. heplful? realistic? naive?

First, we should learn to listen and understand the experiences and perspectives of people from different backgrounds to us. Invest in conversations with people from different races, asking thoughtful questions: 'tell me what does it feel like to you to see this week's news?' or 'what do you think people from my background fail to understand about your experience?'

Second, invest in relationships with people -- fellow christians especially -- who are different to us. Slave or free, Greek or Jew. Our unity in Christ is far greater than any superficial divisons.

Third, use whatever influence you have to push for healthier multicultural church. Ask your leaders awkward questions: 'Do you have a target for racial diversity in your church leadership?' or 'do you track which groups get to hold the mike in church services?' 'Is there a plan for change, does it have targets and a timescale?' 'When did you last discuss this in leadership meetings?'

Follow up the awkwardness with a commitment to make a difference and to support leaders in whatever way you can.

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Imagine in 15 years time the same outrage bursts out that we've seen in the past few weeks. But this time, a fully diverse represetative church can stand as one both calling out the evil, and demonstrating how to heal divisions and to live together.

I am less that two years off eighty. When I was sixteen, there were race riots in Brixton, a London suberb, I was in transit to return to my army camp, (I was a boy soldier). I had no issues with black people and so I decided to go to Brixton and show solidarity. When I arrived in Brixton, I went into a cafe run by Jamaicans, I ordered a cup of tea and was made to sit on the floor to drink it. So much for solidarity. Many years later I was asked by a Christian friend to pick up his daughter in Peckham, another suberb of London, when I arrived there, the multistorey buildings all looked the same and so I approached a white lady to ask the way, she ran from me without waiting for my request. There were a group of black youths approaching, so I approached them for directions. They stood menacingly and eventually sent me to the wrong block. I have never held any animosity toward any race, but daily, I, as are all white people in my country, held to account by black people for all the misdemeanours ever perpetrated against them. This is not only by the rank and file, this is also by black politicians who lead elitist lives. We are told by these elitist black politicians who live in the choicest areas of our cities, that black people are restricted in progressing in this country. When I look at the rough sleepers, I see far more white people than black. When I look at the amount of black people who are queing to enter our 'racist' country I am astounded that they wish to come to such a racist place. Over the years these constant attacks on my countrymen and myself is beginning to hardened my heart toward these people who I have never held bad feelings against. I would say, there is far more racism from black to white in this country, than white to black and it is eroding the good will that has always existed between the British and the imigrant comunity. I find this so sad.