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AnneOminous said:
Wow! I've noticed the same! People have beliefs. They do all they can do to support those beliefs. The most arrogant ones refuse to acknowledge the very thing you are talking about above.

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And some just don’t understand what others are talking about because they have no oil in their lamps for to see what the Spirit is saying in God’s Word.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
Jesus said.....

Mat 25:45 “Then he will answer them, ‘Don’t you know? When you refused to help one of the least important among these my little ones, my true brothers and sisters, you refused to help and honor me.’
Mat 25:46 And they will depart from his presence and go into eternal punishment. But the godly and beloved ‘sheep’ will enter into eternal bliss.”
 
AnneOminous said:
More arrogance. The "us" in the passage is Paul and Timothy.... not Stew.
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Don’t confuse confidence with arrogance. I’m sure of my election and anointing.

Romans 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
 
AnneOminous said:
I’m not confused. It’s arrogance.
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Throughout this thread you seem very fond of calling people arrogant.
Yet your attitude is self righteous and arrogant.


A reply ban has been applied.

Be humble and gentle in your responses in future
 
StewardoftheMystery said:
If you are not anointed of God, then you do not belong to the priesthood of Christ, and are not a part of the body of Christ

2 Corinthians 1:21
Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
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Anointed( G5548) & Anointing (G5545):- Luke 4:18; Acts 4:27; Hebrews 1:9; Acts 10:48; 2 Corinthians 1:21. 1 John 2:27.

Hello @StewardoftheMystery,

The anointing received by the Apostles and those that heard them during the Acts period was an equipping for service: as it was in the case of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I do not believe that your statement in this entry is correct: either in regard to, 'the anointing of God,' 'the priesthood of Christ,' or, 'The Body of Christ' that you refer to.

I do not have the time to apply myself to this at the moment, but I do ask you to seriously consider what you have said, in the interest of the Truth of God's Word; and the faith of those to whom you address these remarks, as one who declares himself to be 'A Steward of the Mystery'. There is only One Foundation, which is the Lord Jesus Christ, be careful what you build upon that foundation , for you will be answerable for it.

Paul was Divinely appointed to be a Steward of the Mystery which God revealed to Him. By whose authority do you claim to hold such an office?

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
complete said:
Anointed( G5548) & Anointing (G5545):- Luke 4:18; Acts 4:27; Hebrews 1:9; Acts 10:48; 2 Corinthians 1:21. 1 John 2:27.

Hello @StewardoftheMystery,

The anointing received by the Apostles and those that heard them during the Acts period was an equipping for service: as it was in the case of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I do not believe that your statement in this entry is correct: either in regard to, 'the anointing of God,' 'the priesthood of Christ,' or, 'The Body of Christ' that you refer to.

I do not have the time to apply myself to this at the moment, but I do ask you to seriously consider what you have said, in the interest of the Truth of God's Word; and the faith of those to whom you address these remarks, as one who declares himself to be 'A Steward of the Mystery'. There is only One Foundation, which is the Lord Jesus Christ, be careful what you build upon that foundation , for you will be answerable for it.

Paul was Divinely appointed to be a Steward of the Mystery which God revealed to Him. By whose authority do you claim to hold such an office?

In Christ Jesus
Chris
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The anointing I received is the anointing of the Holy Spirit, given to all of Gods chosen priesthood. Gods people are a nation of Kings and priests, chosen and anointed by God, not man.

1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointingteacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.”

All those who God has chosen to be ministers in his priesthood are given gifts to edify the body of Christ. As we are also given the Spirit of Wisdom and understanding into many of the mysteries contained in God’s written words.

Thus the name stewards (plural) of the mysteries.(many)

1 Corinthians 4:1
Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.
 
StewardoftheMystery said:
The anointing I received is the anointing of the Holy Spirit, given to all of Gods chosen priesthood. Gods people are a nation of Kings and priests, chosen and anointed by God, not man.

1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.”

All those whom God has chosen to be ministers in his priesthood are given gifts to edify the body of Christ. As we are also given the Spirit of Wisdom and understanding into many of the mysteries contained in God’s written words.

Thus the name stewards (plural) of the mysteries.(many)

1 Corinthians 4:1
Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.
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Hello @SOTM.

Thank you for responding..

You refer to 1 Corinthians 4:1, let's look at it's context:-

'Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas,
or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come;
all are yours; And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.
Let a man so account of us, (ie., the Apostles),
as of the ministers of Christ,
and stewards of the mysteries of God.
Moreover it is required in stewards,
that a man be found faithful. '
(1 Cor.3:21- 4:2)

* With respect Paul is referring to Himself, and to Apollos or Cephas, who were Apostles and Ministers of the risen Christ: and who were indeed, 'Stewards of the mysteries of God', for they had been called and equipped for that purpose.

I shall let your other words go un-remarked at the moment, concerning the Priesthood etc., but would ask you to consider the context of the verses referenced, the address on the envelope of each, and consider the time of writing, of all the verses you are applying to yourself.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
complete said:
Hello @SOTM.

Thank you for responding..

You refer to 1 Corinthians 4:1, let's look at it's context:-

'Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas,
or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come;
all are yours; And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.
Let a man so account of us, (ie., the Apostles),
as of the ministers of Christ,
and stewards of the mysteries of God.
Moreover it is required in stewards,
that a man be found faithful. '
(1 Cor.3:21- 4:2)

* With respect Paul is referring to Himself, and to Apollos or Cephas, who were Apostles and Ministers of the risen Christ: and who were indeed, 'Stewards of the mysteries of God', for they had been called and equipped for that purpose.

I shall let your other words go un-remarked at the moment, concerning the Priesthood etc., but would ask you to consider the context of the verses referenced, the address on the envelope of each, and consider the time of writing, of all the verses you are applying to yourself.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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If you read Paul letters he also refers to others “ as ministers” of Jesus Christ, not just the 12 apostles.

God’s ministers and priesthood started long ago, well before the 12 apostles. And this priesthood continues even today in those whom God has chosen and anointed to minister to, and for Him, every man in his course.

God is gathering for Himself a nation of Kings and priests to reign with Him.

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Revelation 5:10
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Peter calls Gods elect a “holy priesthood”…

“Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an “holy priesthood,” to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.”

Peter also calls us a royal priesthood…

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a “royal priesthood,” an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;”

We are called “ministers” “oracles” and also “stewards”…

1 Peter 4:10-11

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10 As “every man” hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.”
 
StewardoftheMystery said:
If you read Paul letters he also refers to others “ as ministers” of Jesus Christ, not just the 12 apostles.

God’s ministers and priesthood started long ago, well before the 12 apostles. And this priesthood continues even today in those whom God has chosen and anointed to minister to, and for Him, every man in his course.

God is gathering for Himself a nation of Kings and priests to reign with Him.

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Revelation 5:10
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Peter calls Gods elect a “holy priesthood”…

“Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an “holy priesthood,” to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.”

Peter also calls us a royal priesthood…

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a “royal priesthood,” an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;”

We are called “ministers” “oracles” and also “stewards”…

1 Peter 4:10-11​

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King James Version​

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10 As “every man” hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.”
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Hello there, SOTM,

It is those of the redeemed nation of Israel which will be Kings and Priests unto God in that day to come (see Exodus 19:6). The letter of Peter was addressed to:-

'Peter, an Apostle of Jesus Christ,
to the strangers scattered throughout
Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father,
through sanctification of the Spirit,
unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ:
Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.'
(1 Peter 1:1)

'But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood,
an holy nation, a peculiar people;
that ye should shew forth the praises of Him Who hath called you
out of darkness into His marvellous light:
Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God:
which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims,
abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles:
that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers,
they may by your good works, which they shall behold,
glorify God in the day of visitation.'
(1 Peter 2:9-12)

* These are the believing remnant of Israel, God's elect, living among the nations. Strangers and Pilgrims. Overcomers in their generation. during the period covered by the gospels and the forty years of the Acts period.

* Do you come into this category?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
complete said:
Hello there, SOTM,

It is those of the redeemed nation of Israel which will be Kings and Priests unto God in that day to come (see Exodus 19:6). The letter of Peter was addressed to:-

'Peter, an Apostle of Jesus Christ,
to the strangers scattered throughout
Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father,
through sanctification of the Spirit,
unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ:
Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.'
(1 Peter 1:1)

'But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood,
an holy nation, a peculiar people;
that ye should shew forth the praises of Him Who hath called you
out of darkness into His marvellous light:
Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God:
which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims,
abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles:
that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers,
they may by your good works, which they shall behold,
glorify God in the day of visitation.'
(1 Peter 2:9-12)

* These are the believing remnant of Israel, God's elect, living among the nations. Strangers and Pilgrims. Overcomers in their generation. during the period covered by the gospels and the forty years of the Acts period.

* Do you come into this category?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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Yes, read verse 10…
Where Peter says “which in times past were not a people”

1 Peter 2:10​

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10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.”

That is the prophecy of salvation coming to the Gentiles in Hosea…

Hosea 1:10
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.”

Paul confirms this prophecy..,,

Romans 9:24-26​

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24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.”

So yes this nation of Kings and priests are of all nations, and peoples, and tongues. Confirmed also here….

Revelation 5:9-10​

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9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
 
StewardoftheMystery said:
Yes, read verse 10…
Where Peter says “which in times past were not a people”

1 Peter 2:10​

King James Version​

10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.”

That is the prophecy of salvation coming to the Gentiles in Hosea…

Hosea 1:10
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.”

Paul confirms this prophecy..,,

Romans 9:24-26​

King James Version​

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.”

So yes this nation of Kings and priests are of all nations, and peoples, and tongues. Confirmed also here….

Revelation 5:9-10​

King James Version​

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
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'But ye are
.. a chosen generation,
.... a royal priesthood,
...... an holy nation,
........ a peculiar people;
that ye should shew forth the praises of Him
Who hath called you out of darkness into His marvellous light:
Which in time past were not a people,
but are now the people of God:
which had not obtained mercy,
but now have obtained mercy.'
(1 Peter 2:-9-10)

Hello SOTM,

Hosea 1:10-11 refer to events related to Judah and Israel:-

Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not My People, and I will not be your God.
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered;
and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not My People,
there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together,
and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land:
for great shall be the day of Jezreel.'
(Hos 1:9-11)

* In 1 Peter 2:9-10, Peter is speaking to the believing remnant of Israel, who are living among the nations as 'strangers and pilgrims' as is stated in 1 Peter 1.

* This prophecy of Hosea 2 is also referred to in Romans 9, (as you say). in which the point being made is this. If God can confer the title of 'My People' upon those who were 'Not My People' when dealing with one nation, namely the Jews, there can be no objection if, in regard to the sovereignty already established in the previous verses, he should take as 'vessels of mercy' some from among the Gentiles. He is simply using the passage to establish his argument concerning the sovereignty of God.

Revelation 5:9-10 are also related to Israel, who had been brought out of every nation and gathered together as Kings and Priests unto God.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
complete said:
'But ye are
.. a chosen generation,
.... a royal priesthood,
...... an holy nation,
........ a peculiar people;
that ye should shew forth the praises of Him
Who hath called you out of darkness into His marvellous light:
Which in time past were not a people,
but are now the people of God:
which had not obtained mercy,
but now have obtained mercy.'
(1 Peter 2:-9-10)

Hello SOTM,

Hosea 1:10-11 refer to events related to Judah and Israel:-

Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not My People, and I will not be your God.
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered;
and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not My People,
there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together,
and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land:
for great shall be the day of Jezreel.'
(Hos 1:9-11)

* In 1 Peter 2:9-10, Peter is speaking to the believing remnant of Israel, who are living among the nations as 'strangers and pilgrims' as is stated in 1 Peter 1.

* This prophecy of Hosea 2 is also referred to in Romans 9, (as you say). in which the point being made is this. If God can confer the title of 'My People' upon those who were 'Not My People' when dealing with one nation, namely the Jews, there can be no objection if, in regard to the sovereignty already established in the previous verses, he should take as 'vessels of mercy' some from among the Gentiles. He is simply using the passage to establish his argument concerning the sovereignty of God.

Revelation 5:9-10 are also related to Israel, who had been brought out of every nation and gathered together as Kings and Priests unto God.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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Clearly you ignore what in plainly written. I’ll leave you to your mid -Acts Pauline dispensationalism.
 
StewardoftheMystery said:
Clearly you ignore what in plainly written. I’ll leave you to your mid -Acts Pauline dispensationalism.
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Hello SOTM,

No, I have not ignored what is written, and your assumption about me, made in your second sentence, is not correct. I am an Acts 28 dispensationalist.

With love in Christ Jesus
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris
 
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