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His avid quoting of Scriptures only shows how indoctrinated he is in the doctrines of men.
Do consider that you may be the one. See here in regards to this other poster.

The scriptures that say God is the Savior---they are about God THE FATHER.
Since the scriptures say Jesus is the Savior, then Jesus is God THE FATHER Whom will be appearing soon as the Bridgroom.

Who is our Husband?

Isaiah 54:5 For your Maker is your husband-- the LORD Almighty is his name-- the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; he is called the God of all the earth.

Did you read and see that?

God the Father is our Maker, our husband, He is the LORD Almighty, the Holy One of Israel, our Redeemer. He is God.

I can give you scriptures for everything I just said.
So can I for why I say you are applying scriptures wrong.

John 3:28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. 29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

Jesus is specified as the Bridegroom thus the husband and the Lord God Almighty.

Jesus said that no man had seen the Father at any time.

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

So did Jesus lied about the God men had seen in the O.T. if you believe the Father is the One that has been appearing to men in the O.T.?

Or did not Jesus say that Moses was writing about Him, the Word of God as seen by men in the O.T.?

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.... 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

And what words should we believe that it was the Son men had seen in the O.T. and not the Father besides John 5:37? Jesus specified that Abraham had seen him and made no reference to Abraham as seeing the Father.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Now if it was solely the Father men had seen in the O.T., then did Jesus lied in John 5:37 & in John 5:39-40 & John 5:46-47 & John 8:56-59?

No, because that was not the Father they had seen in the O.T. but the Son of God before His incarnation.
 
Do consider that you may be the one. See here in regards to this other poster.


So can I for why I say you are applying scriptures wrong.

John 3:28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. 29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

Jesus is specified as the Bridegroom thus the husband and the Lord God Almighty.

Jesus said that no man had seen the Father at any time.

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

So did Jesus lied about the God men had seen in the O.T. if you believe the Father is the One that has been appearing to men in the O.T.?

Or did not Jesus say that Moses was writing about Him, the Word of God as seen by men in the O.T.?

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.... 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

And what words should we believe that it was the Son men had seen in the O.T. and not the Father besides John 5:37? Jesus specified that Abraham had seen him and made no reference to Abraham as seeing the Father.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Now if it was solely the Father men had seen in the O.T., then did Jesus lied in John 5:37 & in John 5:39-40 & John 5:46-47 & John 8:56-59?

No, because that was not the Father they had seen in the O.T. but the Son of God before His incarnation.
All you did was copy and paste the same false post.
 
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All you did was copy and paste the same false post.
Let us, with the Lord, try this then.

John 3:28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. 29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

Who is the Bridegroom spoken of in that scriptural reference above of Whom John the Baptist is to bear witness of?
 
All you did was copy and paste the same false post.
For @Godbehonored 's sake.. doing it again.

No, I am not. And it is sad to say that you don't have understanding about most all the scriptures.

How do you get that you can nullify the scriptures that also say the Father is the husband?
They are the same One.
Were you not specifying that only the Father was the husband as referenced in the O.T. when I have been telling you that the God made known & seen to men is the Word of God before His incarnation?
Jesus is God the Father made visible and come in the flesh.
How do you rectify this scripture? John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Is Jesus a liar or is what you say is false?
Jesus is the only one who has seen the Father in the Spirit and in unapproachable light.
Jesus is the Word of God, and was with God from the beginning, AND IS GOD.
There is only One God, and He is the Father.
Since Jesus is God, then he is also the Father, because there is only one God and He is the Father.

JESUS IS GOD: John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

JESUS IS GOD MADE VISIBLE WITH A PHYSICAL BODY:
John 14:7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

John 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

John 12:45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Jesus testified that no man had seen the Father at any time and yet man has seen & heard God in the O.T. and Jesus testified that Moses had written about Him, not the Father, as seen by men.

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. 38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. 39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life......46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

So did Jesus lied again that no man had seen nor heard the Father in the O.T. but the God men had heard and seen was Jesus as the Word of God before His incarnation?

Stop asking if Jesus lied.

I can give you scriptures that say Jesus created everything, and I can give you scriptures that say God, the Father did.
Since Jesus does everything in according to the Father's will and His request to make man after their image and after their likeness so that when the Father agreed, as the One God, He , the Word of God with the Father & the Holy Spirit in agreement to establishing the Word of God's testimony in creation in having created man after His image and after His likeness for why everything was made by the Word of God.

In the same way in how Jesus answer prayers now; Jesus serving as our only Mediator, gives our intercessions after searching our hearts, and gives the unuttered intercessions of the Holy Spirit's by knowing the mind of the Spirit's, ad His own intercessions to the father so that whichever intercession the Father agrees with, the Son answers the prayers as God so that the Father may be glorified in the Son & receive thanks in Jesus's name..

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Why not say ..
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that the Father will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, the Father will do it. ???

I know Jesus did not lie, but in according to your belief that God is really the same Person in the Father, the Son & and the Holy Ghost just doesn't track, brother, for it makes Jesus look like a liar by His words & He is not a liar.


Just explaining why I do not believe your version of the One God being a One Person God. He is far more complicated than that and when you consider the Hebrew word "Elohim" for the English word "God", Elohim is plural as gods.
 
Let us, with the Lord, try this then.

John 3:28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. 29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

Who is the Bridegroom spoken of in that scriptural reference above of Whom John the Baptist is to bear witness of?
Jesus.
Do know though that Jesus is God.
Also know that there is only one God and He is the Father.
So if Jesus is God, and he is, then he is God the Father come as a son as a man.
 
For @Godbehonored 's sake.. doing it again.
You need to stop copying and pasting and speak to people. No wonder you write so much, you are just copying and pasting. That is so disrespectful, and it is obvious you aren't always acknowledging what the others' beliefs are.
Were you not specifying that only the Father was the husband as referenced in the O.T. when I have been telling you that the God made known & seen to men is the Word of God before His incarnation?
That is Jesus, not yet known as Jesus. In the Old Testament, the scriptures say that it is God the Father.
How do you rectify this scripture? John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Is Jesus a liar or is what you say is false?
You were told not to say that. What kind of spirit do you have if you say what you know bothers another? It is disrespectful for you to say what you do to me, especially since you don't understand most all the scriptures and speak against the truth.
Jesus testified that no man had seen the Father at any time and yet man has seen & heard God in the O.T. and Jesus testified that Moses had written about Him, not the Father, as seen by men.
You are confused. It is God the Father speaking in the Old Testament. The Bible says so. That is still Jesus, not yet known as Jesus. Give up your teachings from men.
So did Jesus lied again that no man had seen nor heard the Father in the O.T. but the God men had heard and seen was Jesus as the Word of God before His incarnation?

Since Jesus does everything in according to the Father's will and His request to make man after their image and after their likeness so that when the Father agreed, as the One God, He , the Word of God with the Father & the Holy Spirit in agreement to establishing the Word of God's testimony in creation in having created man after His image and after His likeness for why everything was made by the Word of God.

In the same way in how Jesus answer prayers now; Jesus serving as our only Mediator, gives our intercessions after searching our hearts, and gives the unuttered intercessions of the Holy Spirit's by knowing the mind of the Spirit's, ad His own intercessions to the father so that whichever intercession the Father agrees with, the Son answers the prayers as God so that the Father may be glorified in the Son & receive thanks in Jesus's name..

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Why not say .. 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that the Father will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, the Father will do it. ???

I know Jesus did not lie, but in according to your belief that God is really the same Person in the Father, the Son & and the Holy Ghost just doesn't track, brother, for it makes Jesus look like a liar by His words & He is not a liar.

Just explaining why I do not believe your version of the One God being a One Person God. He is far more complicated than that and when you consider the Hebrew word "Elohim" for the English word "God", Elohim is plural as gods.
Look how many times you wrote "liar" when you were asked not to. That is not a person with a spirit who only wants to please Jesus.
 
@GodB4Us
There are not three different divine Spirits.
Show me scriptures that say there are.
You will never ever find that.
I will show you scripture that says one Spirit, and that the Father is a Spirit.
You really want to teach there is another Spirit given to the saved that isn't the Father?
Why don't you ever answer the questions I ask you?
 
@Godbehonored and @GodB4Us

Explain this, you Godbehonored who says Jesus is not God---and, you GodB4Us who says there are three different Spirits making one God---


How does Jesus himself live in the saved when the saved are given one Spirit the Holy Spirit?


That question is going to show how both of you are in error and are teaching false doctrines.
 
Jesus.
Do know though that Jesus is God.
Also know that there is only one God and He is the Father.
So if Jesus is God, and he is, then he is God the Father come as a son as a man.
Why not just come as Himself as the Father?
 
@Godbehonored and @GodB4Us

Explain this, you Godbehonored who says Jesus is not God---and, you GodB4Us who says there are three different Spirits making one God---


How does Jesus himself live in the saved when the saved are given one Spirit the Holy Spirit?

Why did Jesus use the plural pronoun when testifying how He and the Father would come and make Their abode with us?

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Why did Jesus continue by testifying to the Holy Spirit as if separate from the Father as the father sent Him and separate from Jesus to bring into remembrance all things Jesus said unto us?

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


God in 3 Persons is Omnipresence but when we are in Heaven, we will no longer need Jesus to ask the Father for us because we will see the Father to ask Him directly.

John 16:
23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. 25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. 26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Not even going to bother highlighting any thing out of that last scripture reference since God has to help you see the truth in His words.

That question is going to show how both of you are in error and are teaching false doctrines.
So was Jesus a ventriloquist when the Father spoke from heaven regarding His Son at Jesus's water baptism? Did Jesus create a rupture in the space time continuum so He can alight on Himself as the Holy Spirit like a dove?

I do not believe that. Therefore there are 3 Witnesses within the One God and the apostle John did indeed bear witness of those 3 Witnesses from Heaven for why God's witness is greater than men's. 1 John 5:6-9 KJV
 
@GodB4Us
There are not three different divine Spirits.
Show me scriptures that say there are.
You will never ever find that.
I will show you scripture that says one Spirit, and that the Father is a Spirit.
You really want to teach there is another Spirit given to the saved that isn't the Father?
Why don't you ever answer the questions I ask you?
1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. KJV

What is John talking about? Here below is John the Baptist's testimony as reported by the apostle John;

John 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

Now look at confirmation from the gospel of Mattew of the 3 Witnesses of the Son as God being sent from Heaven.

Matthew 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Jesus is standing there after being water baptized, that is one Witness, the Holy Spirit alighting on Him like a dove as the 2nd Witness, and the Father speaking from Heaven regarding His Son as God is the third Witness.

No one person can serve as three witnesses by His words, and so there are 3 Witnesses within the One God for how as the Triune God, God establishes a testimony and how God judges any one.

That's it. We are done.
 
Why did Jesus use the plural pronoun when testifying how He and the Father would come and make Their abode with us?
Because they are the same person.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Why did Jesus continue by testifying to the Holy Spirit as if separate from the Father as the father sent Him and separate from Jesus to bring into remembrance all things Jesus said unto us?
Where do you ever get that Jesus made it as if the Holy Spirit was separate from the Father?????
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

God in 3 Persons is Omnipresence but when we are in Heaven, we will no longer need Jesus to ask the Father for us because we will see the Father to ask Him directly.
That is not what the scriptures say!


John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. 25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. 26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Not even going to bother highlighting any thing out of that last scripture reference since God has to help you see the truth in His words.
ASK anything in Jesus’ name he will do it. See John 14:14.

ASK the Father in Jesus’ name, the Father will give it to you. See John 16:23.

They are interchangeable because they are the same one!
So was Jesus a ventriloquist when the Father spoke from heaven regarding His Son at Jesus's water baptism? Did Jesus create a rupture in the space time continuum so He can alight on Himself as the Holy Spirit like a dove?

I do not believe that. Therefore there are 3 Witnesses within the One God and the apostle John did indeed bear witness of those 3 Witnesses from Heaven for why God's witness is greater than men's. 1 John 5:6-9 KJV
I KNEW YOU WOULDN'T answer my question!!!

How does JESUS HIMSELF live in you if the Holy Spirit is a DIFFERENT SPIRIT?

Answer the question or stop acting like a teacher. A teacher has answers! You don't answer.

You say there are three DIFFERENT SPIRITS.

How does Jesus himself live in us if the Holy Spirit is not him?

Do you think the Holy Spirit is a proxy Spirit? THINK. You and your silly ventriloquist remarks!
 
1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. KJV

What is John talking about? Here below is John the Baptist's testimony as reported by the apostle John;

John 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

Now look at confirmation from the gospel of Mattew of the 3 Witnesses of the Son as God being sent from Heaven.

Matthew 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Jesus is standing there after being water baptized, that is one Witness, the Holy Spirit alighting on Him like a dove as the 2nd Witness, and the Father speaking from Heaven regarding His Son as God is the third Witness.

No one person can serve as three witnesses by His words, and so there are 3 Witnesses within the One God for how as the Triune God, God establishes a testimony and how God judges any one.

That's it. We are done.
You can't answer questions, so you are done.
You are so wrong about so many scriptures and doctrines it is a sad case for you indeed.

You say the Father is a Spirit, and that the son is a different Spirit, and the Holy Spirit yet another different Spirit.

The Bible says one Spirit.
 
@Godbehonored and @GodB4Us

Explain this, you Godbehonored who says Jesus is not God---and, you GodB4Us who says there are three different Spirits making one God---


How does Jesus himself live in the saved when the saved are given one Spirit the Holy Spirit?


That question is going to show how both of you are in error and are teaching false doctrines.
I have already answered why Jesus is not God, in MULTIPLE posts.
God cannot be tempted, but Jesus is tempted. So how can Jesus be God?

James 1:13 KJV for God cannot be tempted with evil

Matthew 4:1 KJV Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

???
Philippians 2:5-11 is exactly the reason why Jesus is not to be worshipped. When the Word became flesh, the form of divinity was stripped and Jesus was fully mortal and not God. To say otherwise is to say Jesus cannot have died for our sins since God cannot die a mortal death. If Jesus had a divine nature he cannot truly die. The Gnostics denied the mortal death of Jesus and now if any start claiming that Jesus was deity, it is no different from denying that Jesus died a mortal death.

Before anyone start throwing the phrase Jesus is both God and man, let me make it clear that there is NOT ONE VERSE in the Gospel that testify that Jesus had dual natures. What the Gospel did say is Jesus was fully man, and the Spirit of God came upon him. If Jesus already had the divine nature in him when he walked the earth why did the Spirit of God need to descend upon him? Why did he need the Spirit of God to perform miracles if he was already divine? Why did he say I am not able of Myself to do anything (John 5:30) if he was both God and man?

And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. Mark 10:18

If Jesus is both God and man, he made a very confusing statement in Mark 10:18. Why deny that he is divinity by saying that only God is good? If Jesus is indeed God and man, he would not have said Why do you call me good.
 
Because they are the same person.

It is you and Godbe4Us who are teaching wrong doctrines. The Father alone is God, and Jesus is His son. They are NOT the same person. The Gospel proves both of you wrong and false teachers.

Fact 1: Only the Father is God

1 Corinthians 8:6 KJV But to us there is but one God, the Father,

Fact 2: the Son of Man Jesus is not the same person as the Father.

Acts 7:56 KJV And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

This is the last time I’m responding to you.
 
Jesus did not sin for why we can say He was not tempted and why He is God.
Who said Jesus was not tempted?

Hebrews 4:15 KJV For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Are you not afraid of how God will judge you for twisting the Scriptures to suit your false doctrines over and over?
 
How does Jesus himself live in the saved when the saved are given one Spirit the Holy Spirit?

John 4:23 KJV Jesus answered and said unto him, if a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

What is not clear about Jesus saying that BOTH the Father and him will dwell in believers? So believers have both the Spirit of God and the spirit of Christ. It does not say this is a shared spirit!
 
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