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A powerful 2018 prophetic word

May Jesus always fill us with His knowledge and love.

I thank you for the humility inwhich you wrote your words, something i took note of while reading.

The answers to your questions requires a little preparation. It is understanding the nature of Jesus.

Jesus tells us in Rev that He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end Rev 22:13

And in the Gospel of John it states " He was with God in the beginning, through Him all things came to be, not one thing had its being, but through Him. John 1: 2&3

Our understanding of Jesus has its limits as we are finite beings, where Jesus is eternal.

The importantance of this has to do with all of Scripture. Jesus is the author of all of it. And that the Old Testiment as well as the New Testiment are both alive to us . Old Testiment was relevent to those during New Testiment times, and both are relevant to us now.

Besides the literal translation, the scripture goes much deeper, even to this very day.

Jesus spoke of Lot and Noah to express His point, but others can make points from those very same readings.

In those cases Lot and Noah as well as Moses those who were the followers , were saved from the wrath, even though they lived through it .

Go ask Jewish Rabbi's for further details, but all the plagues in Egypt only effected the Egyptians. And the flood drown the wicked.

In all cases God chose to allow His people to go through the events and continue . Rebuilding and grow in faith.

The concept of a rapture pre tribulation , does not follow the patterns Jesus has shown us in His Word.
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" knowing we will be in the world during the Tribulation and God will protect us" Protect us, be with us, uphold us.

The protection of God is beyond a physical thing. Certainly this time will be challenging, and not without difficulties. Place your faith in Jesus. The outpouring of the Holy Spirit , unlike anything you have ever seen..

Maybe you will be a martyr, but you will be strong in faith. This thing you call your body, isnt really you. It is just a shell.

God will proct us as the Isrealites were protected in Egypt.
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I will be here because i must. To complete the task the Father has given to me.
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Great Tribulation

Certainly there are many mysteries we dont fully understand . Church ages and such . But i can guarentee you , The Great Tribulation has not yet begun. Every Christians very life will be at stake. Much like the way it was for Jews during WWII in Germany. Except it will be world wide.
Bill, I too believe when the Beast rises to power, all the world leaders will follow him, meaning, people will be forced to take the mark (or lose their head) everywhere in the world, with perhaps a very few exceptions.

If you believe you must remain behind, I believe God will honor your faith. You are not alone: there are many who believe that they with the church will go through the days of great tribulation. Part of the problem is, for centuries the church in general did not know where the 70th week or "the trib" starts in Revelation. Next, many imagined (and that is all it was) that the rapture was at Rev. 4:1. Many imagined that when John wrote, "after this" his meaning was "after the church age. No, John used this or a very similar phrase 6 different times in Revelation as a transitional phrase. What John was showing us is only that after God finished dictating to John the individual messages to each church, He then changed directions, so to speak in the vision and called John up to heaven.

Perhaps the reason many choose that for the rapture is because they could not find it anywhere else. The truth is, God did not show the rapture to John, so John did not write of it. However, God choose to show John the raptured church in heaven right after the rapture, I am thankful He did.

Many many people imagine that the Week begins at the first seal. Again, it is only imagination. They ignore the context of the first seal, which is chapters 4 & 5. I was getting absolutely nothing of the intent of the Author in these two chapters, so again Jesus stepped in to assist me. I got stuck on John weeping, and much, so I began to bug God about that - asking Him why we needed to know that John wept, and that it was much, not a little. Finally He spoke and said, "It shows timing." I searched diligently and could not see timing anywhere in these two chapter. You might say, I was slow or blind! I kept right on bugging Him. After a couple of more weeks, He spoke again and said, "it also shows the movement of time." Again I studied diligently, hours each day after work, trying to find timing and the movement of time. I failed. Finally, He asked me three questions that I could not answer. Now I had five different things I could not answer: time, the movement of time, and his three questions.

Finally He sent me to chapter 12 to find a key to answer all the questions. Did you ever wonder why, in a vision of perhaps 95 AD, God would show John Jesus' ascension into the throne room and Him immediately sending the Holy Spirit down? It was to show us timing. These things happened around 32 AD. That is when Jesus got the book and began opening seals.. Many people just ignore this context and imagine (It is a well used word in Revelation) it is the Antichrist Beast. How could that be possible in 32 AD? They are 2000 years off in their theories.

I fully agree with you: the days of GT Jesus spoke of will not come until all the 7 trumpets have sounded - and then after the False Prophet shows up. And none of these things can happen until God sees His church safely in heaven and sees the 144,000 of Israel sealed. For those who are in reality left behind and imagine they will live through the days of GT. I frequenly tell them: imagine you are a Jews hiding in Berlin in 1943. What will be your chances of living through the war? I would guess the chances are very close to ZERO. The truth, as you hinted above, will be that the whole world will go to war against believers, imagining it their duty to put them to death. This is the true meaning behind being "overcome."

God will proct us as the Isrealites were protected in Egypt. John has given us very little about believers in those days except being overcome. But consider these verses and see if they agree with your theory:

12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
14:
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

These verses agree with "overcome." I cannot find any verses to the contrary for those days of GT. The saints will either take the mark or they will lose their head.

I agree: our body is only the house we live in for now.

Why do I believe so strongly in a pretrib rapture?
1. I know the entire 70th week is His wrath and I read verses that show us God will set no appointments for us with His wrath.
2. I see the 5th seal as the martyrs of the church age, and they are told that judgment will not come until the final martyr is killed. The rapture will stop the church age so will cause a certain martyr to be that final martyr. So when that number is fulfilled, then the rapture will come. I am sure God knows the number. So I see the final martyr being killed, the rapture and then wrath starting - as shown at the 6th seal.
3. I believe the great crowd John saw in heaven is the just raptured church.
4. I see the first trumpet judgment as the first salvo of the 70th week. It will certainly come with God's wrath.
I see God start the Day of the Lord (His wrath) first, then the 70th week, so the entire 70th week will be in His wrath and without the church.
5. I see the church already in heaven in Rev. 19, present for the marriage and supper, before we all descend on white horses. Posttrib rapturists solve this dilemma by simply moving the marriage and supper. That is not proper exegesis in my mind. Jesus does not get on His horse until after the marriage supper.

Finally, I find no verses that say the future most fit the patterns of the past. The only precedent for the rapture is Enoch and Elijah - probably the two witnesses.

Therefore, we will probably end up disagreeing on these points. Thanks for a civil post! ;-)
 
So you believe that a born -again believer becomes a Jew?

I'm talking about the Children of Israel -- Jews.

Revelation 7 : 4 talking about the 144,000 Jews -- 12,000 out of all the 12 tribes of Israel. That passage lists all the tribes Of Israel. They are sealed on their foreheads.

The multitudes asked about in vs 13 are those told about in vs 14 -- they accept Christ as their promised Messiah and apparently become martyrs Because of their new-found faith during those 7 yrs.

When a person -- Jew or Gentile -- accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior -- they become a son/ daughter of God.
Sue, there are problems with this theory: first, John is very (extremely) careful with His chronology, and when this great multitude is seen in heaven, John has not yet even started the 70th week of Daniel. That begins at the 7th seal and with the first trumpet judgment. Next, there is not one hint that they are martyrs. The real days of GT that Jesus spoke of will not begin until late in chapter 14.
 
@Bill -- Your comment "I will be here because I must. To complete the task the Father has given to me." You're the mysterious guy.

A comment -- just because You feel that you Must be here during that 7 yr period of tribulation, yet to come, doesn't mean born -again believers will be.

God is giving Only His chosen people -- those who still reject Him as their Promised Messiah -- a second chance To accept Him. And That is where the multitude of people come from -- during that period of time.

There Will Be those living through those 7 yrs. and on into the 1,000 yr earthly reign of Jesus.
May the joy of Jesus always find us.

Sue you know that I really like you here on Talk Jesus. And I like ploughboy and many others that give me a hard time. All of you are very challenging to me and I like that.

But the time is getting very short now before all the poop hits the fan.

So I have a question for you sue and for everyone else that believes in the pre-trib rapture. At what point will you say to yourself that it is beyond. That the Raptor has not come and it is beyond time for it.

When the great day of the Lord comes will you say to yourself I must have not figured it out correctly so it must happen before the tribulation comes.

And when the tribulation comes in your realize it will you say to yourself I must have figured it out wrong so it must be before the mark of the beast comes

And when the mark of the beast comes what will you say then.

I know you truly believe in the pre- tribulation rapture, but it is a false teaching something the devil has cooked up to really bring a great delusion too many Christians.

And this is one of the primary teachings that's going to cause many many Christians to go into the One World Church.

Now I pray for you Sue and I've told you already what's coming.

I would love to tell you that there are many people praying for God to delay his hand, but instead what is really happening at this point there are many people praying for it to hurry up. Because it can't wait for the Rapture to take place. And people who are praying for the Raptor to hurry up are only thinking of themselves making it to heaven and they are forgetting about everyone else

This is the proof of the pudding as to why I know that the Rapture is not of the Lord. It is because everyone who wants it are only thinking about themselves.

Is there any one of you that would let the person next to them go in your Stead? Would any of you say to the Lord here take this man take this woman take this child I'll stay behind I will wait. All of you have forgotten that you are your brother's keeper.

As for God's purpose in me, there are Two of us
 
Bill, I too believe when the Beast rises to power, all the world leaders will follow him, meaning, people will be forced to take the mark (or lose their head) everywhere in the world, with perhaps a very few exceptions.

If you believe you must remain behind, I believe God will honor your faith. You are not alone: there are many who believe that they with the church will go through the days of great tribulation. Part of the problem is, for centuries the church in general did not know where the 70th week or "the trib" starts in Revelation. Next, many imagined (and that is all it was) that the rapture was at Rev. 4:1. Many imagined that when John wrote, "after this" his meaning was "after the church age. No, John used this or a very similar phrase 6 different times in Revelation as a transitional phrase. What John was showing us is only that after God finished dictating to John the individual messages to each church, He then changed directions, so to speak in the vision and called John up to heaven.

Perhaps the reason many choose that for the rapture is because they could not find it anywhere else. The truth is, God did not show the rapture to John, so John did not write of it. However, God choose to show John the raptured church in heaven right after the rapture, I am thankful He did.

Many many people imagine that the Week begins at the first seal. Again, it is only imagination. They ignore the context of the first seal, which is chapters 4 & 5. I was getting absolutely nothing of the intent of the Author in these two chapters, so again Jesus stepped in to assist me. I got stuck on John weeping, and much, so I began to bug God about that - asking Him why we needed to know that John wept, and that it was much, not a little. Finally He spoke and said, "It shows timing." I searched diligently and could not see timing anywhere in these two chapter. You might say, I was slow or blind! I kept right on bugging Him. After a couple of more weeks, He spoke again and said, "it also shows the movement of time." Again I studied diligently, hours each day after work, trying to find timing and the movement of time. I failed. Finally, He asked me three questions that I could not answer. Now I had five different things I could not answer: time, the movement of time, and his three questions.

Finally He sent me to chapter 12 to find a key to answer all the questions. Did you ever wonder why, in a vision of perhaps 95 AD, God would show John Jesus' ascension into the throne room and Him immediately sending the Holy Spirit down? It was to show us timing. These things happened around 32 AD. That is when Jesus got the book and began opening seals.. Many people just ignore this context and imagine (It is a well used word in Revelation) it is the Antichrist Beast. How could that be possible in 32 AD? They are 2000 years off in their theories.

I fully agree with you: the days of GT Jesus spoke of will not come until all the 7 trumpets have sounded - and then after the False Prophet shows up. And none of these things can happen until God sees His church safely in heaven and sees the 144,000 of Israel sealed. For those who are in reality left behind and imagine they will live through the days of GT. I frequenly tell them: imagine you are a Jews hiding in Berlin in 1943. What will be your chances of living through the war? I would guess the chances are very close to ZERO. The truth, as you hinted above, will be that the whole world will go to war against believers, imagining it their duty to put them to death. This is the true meaning behind being "overcome."

God will proct us as the Isrealites were protected in Egypt. John has given us very little about believers in those days except being overcome. But consider these verses and see if they agree with your theory:

12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
14:
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

These verses agree with "overcome." I cannot find any verses to the contrary for those days of GT. The saints will either take the mark or they will lose their head.

I agree: our body is only the house we live in for now.

Why do I believe so strongly in a pretrib rapture?
1. I know the entire 70th week is His wrath and I read verses that show us God will set no appointments for us with His wrath.
2. I see the 5th seal as the martyrs of the church age, and they are told that judgment will not come until the final martyr is killed. The rapture will stop the church age so will cause a certain martyr to be that final martyr. So when that number is fulfilled, then the rapture will come. I am sure God knows the number. So I see the final martyr being killed, the rapture and then wrath starting - as shown at the 6th seal.
3. I believe the great crowd John saw in heaven is the just raptured church.
4. I see the first trumpet judgment as the first salvo of the 70th week. It will certainly come with God's wrath.
I see God start the Day of the Lord (His wrath) first, then the 70th week, so the entire 70th week will be in His wrath and without the church.
5. I see the church already in heaven in Rev. 19, present for the marriage and supper, before we all descend on white horses. Posttrib rapturists solve this dilemma by simply moving the marriage and supper. That is not proper exegesis in my mind. Jesus does not get on His horse until after the marriage supper.

Finally, I find no verses that say the future most fit the patterns of the past. The only precedent for the rapture is Enoch and Elijah - probably the two witnesses.

Therefore, we will probably end up disagreeing on these points. Thanks for a civil post! ;-)
May our Lord bless us always

The nature of Jesus i was trying to share, is the eternity of Jesus. That the Old Testiment teaching was and is and will be, just as New Testiment was, is and will be. Its because Jesus and the Word are One.

Im not really up on the 70 wk teaching . My relationship with the Lord was never about time.

I can tell you there is a lot of misinformation reguarding the Seals. As an example , the 1st Seal is not about the Anti Christ. Its about a thought process. The 1st Seal was the Peace Treaty between Egypt and Israel.

The Seven Churches are the 7 types of thinking . One of them are the Jews.

The reason you are stuggling to understand Rev. Is that it isnt in Chronological order. In fact only the Seals , Trumpets and Bowls have that distinction.

Its like reading Lord of the Rings, where two things are happening at the same time.

The Two Witnesses will happen during the time of the Trumpets as well as the AntiChrist,

The Great Day of the Lord and 6th Seal are the same

I hope this helps
 
@Bill -- only God the Father knows when He will have Jesus Christ come and take the Church up to be with Him. Whenever it Does take place -- we'll be up and out of here.

We already know that this world is getting nastier and nastier by the minute. Some areas of the world are much worse than here in this country.
 
@Bill -- only God the Father knows when He will have Jesus Christ come and take the Church up to be with Him. Whenever it Does take place -- we'll be up and out of here.

We already know that this world is getting nastier and nastier by the minute. Some areas of the world are much worse than here in this country.
You are right, only God knows.

Yet scripture states " Does the Lord do anything without revealing His plans, to His servants"
 
@Bill -- Amos 3:7 -- the entire verse reads "Surely the Lord God does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets."

Amos was a prophet during a period of national optimism in Israel. So says the intro to that book in my NKJ Bible.

You might want to look at Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only." and those following verses. vs 40 - 41 and 44.
 
@Bill -- Amos 3:7 -- the entire verse reads "Surely the Lord God does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets."

Amos was a prophet during a period of national optimism in Israel. So says the intro to that book in my NKJ Bible.

You might want to look at Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only." and those following verses. vs 40 - 41 and 44.
No one knows the day and the hour of the great day of the Lord. But the Lord still tells his servants what he has planned ahead

Do you think that the only thing God has planned is the great day of the Lord?

I cannot tell you the dates of all these things that are coming but I certainly know the order in which they will be

Here is something that you might want to think about Amos 3:7 if you read that phrase the last word is Prophets as in plural. If that phrase was just meant for Amos it would not have an S
 
You might want to look at Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only." and those following verses. vs 40 - 41 and 44.

Sue the day and hrs is very precise we will know the season when Jesus Returns maybe not the exact day and hr, but we will see the signs the bible talks about, like the great falling away and man of Anti CHrist, being revealed, there is no surprise return like when you here people talk about Pre trib rapture, or Jesus Return like a thief at night, well Paul tells us for that day not out to surprise belivers like a thief at night, only those that do not know Jesus.

Just my thoughts, but I can not find anywear in the bible that teaches Jesus return will happen at any moment, but I can find scripture saying what to look for certain things have to happen.

Hey Sue I thought you were taking a break from TJ :) glad to see you posting sis
 
You are right, only God knows.

Yet scripture states " Does the Lord do anything without revealing His plans, to His servants"
I think the verses we have on the rapture are Him revealing His plans to us! I don't think Jesus knows the time of the rapture either.
 
May our Lord bless us always

The nature of Jesus i was trying to share, is the eternity of Jesus. That the Old Testiment teaching was and is and will be, just as New Testiment was, is and will be. Its because Jesus and the Word are One.

Im not really up on the 70 wk teaching . My relationship with the Lord was never about time.

I can tell you there is a lot of misinformation reguarding the Seals. As an example , the 1st Seal is not about the Anti Christ. Its about a thought process. The 1st Seal was the Peace Treaty between Egypt and Israel.

The Seven Churches are the 7 types of thinking . One of them are the Jews.

The reason you are stuggling to understand Rev. Is that it isnt in Chronological order. In fact only the Seals , Trumpets and Bowls have that distinction.

Its like reading Lord of the Rings, where two things are happening at the same time.

The Two Witnesses will happen during the time of the Trumpets as well as the AntiChrist,

The Great Day of the Lord and 6th Seal are the same

I hope this helps
Of course, I disagree. John was extremely careful with chronology. Many people miss his parentheses, and by missing them imagine his book is not in proper order.

For example, if people read from chapter 1 to chapter 11:2, all seems chronological. In fact, add verse 3. But from that point on, many people scratch there head wondering what John was doing. Some people have solved the chapter 11 chronology problem by making a very long parenthesis from 10:1 to the end of chapter 12. Others force the two witnesses backwards into the first half of the week. Neither is the intent of the Author. I am convinced that John wrote 11:4 through 11:13 as a parenthesis. It seems when God was teaching me, He was emphasizing time and timing. Every mention of the last 3.5 years is inside John's chronology or timeline - not in a parenthesis. I also believe that there is another parenthesis in chapter 13 after John mentions the 42 months of authority. Other than the chapter 11 chronology problem, I really don't know why others imagine the book is not in chronological order.

The Two Witnesses will happen during the time of the Trumpets as well as the AntiChrist,...
The two witnesses suddenly show up just 3 1/2 days before the division point - the day the man of sin enters the temple. They show up then because in 11:1-2 the man of sin just moved with his army of Gentiles to Jerusalem. Then, 3.5 days later, he will enter the temple, and those in Judea will begin to flee. They will continue to testify through chapters 12, 13, 14, 15, and into 16, past the first 6 vials, until just 3.5 days before the week. Then their 1260 days of testifying will end and they will be killed. They will lay dead those 3.5 days and be raised with all the other Old Testament saints when the 7th vial is poured out that will end the 70th week.

Happening at the same time
...good point. This is truth! During chapters 14 through 16, or during the last half of the week, there are 5 parallel countdowns to the end! John covered the start of each countdown separately because they don't all begin at the same moment. While the Beast is using up his 42 months of authority, those who fled will be being protected, and fleeing, the two witnesses will be testifying and the Gentiles will be trampling the city - all of these happening at the same time.

Sorry, but I am not struggling.
 
May the joy of Jesus always find us.

Sue you know that I really like you here on Talk Jesus. And I like ploughboy and many others that give me a hard time. All of you are very challenging to me and I like that.

But the time is getting very short now before all the poop hits the fan.

So I have a question for you sue and for everyone else that believes in the pre-trib rapture. At what point will you say to yourself that it is beyond. That the Raptor has not come and it is beyond time for it.

When the great day of the Lord comes will you say to yourself I must have not figured it out correctly so it must happen before the tribulation comes.

And when the tribulation comes in your realize it will you say to yourself I must have figured it out wrong so it must be before the mark of the beast comes

And when the mark of the beast comes what will you say then.

I know you truly believe in the pre- tribulation rapture, but it is a false teaching something the devil has cooked up to really bring a great delusion too many Christians.

And this is one of the primary teachings that's going to cause many many Christians to go into the One World Church.

Now I pray for you Sue and I've told you already what's coming.

I would love to tell you that there are many people praying for God to delay his hand, but instead what is really happening at this point there are many people praying for it to hurry up. Because it can't wait for the Rapture to take place. And people who are praying for the Raptor to hurry up are only thinking of themselves making it to heaven and they are forgetting about everyone else

This is the proof of the pudding as to why I know that the Rapture is not of the Lord. It is because everyone who wants it are only thinking about themselves.

Is there any one of you that would let the person next to them go in your Stead? Would any of you say to the Lord here take this man take this woman take this child I'll stay behind I will wait. All of you have forgotten that you are your brother's keeper.

As for God's purpose in me, there are Two of us
You ask a very good question. The answer is simple: if the worldwide earthquake of the 6th seal start of God's wrath takes place and I am still here, I will admit I was mistaken. If people miss the 6th seal event somehow, then when the trumpets begin I will admit I was mistaken.

This question can be asked the other way: When the rapture takes place and you are left behind - you will be forced to admit you were mistaken - but we won't be here! ;-)
 
I'm a born -again believer and when the rapture Does take place -- I'll be amongst those being taken up.
 
You ask a very good question. The answer is simple: if the worldwide earthquake of the 6th seal start of God's wrath takes place and I am still here, I will admit I was mistaken. If people miss the 6th seal event somehow, then when the trumpets begin I will admit I was mistaken.

This question can be asked the other way: When the rapture takes place and you are left behind - you will be forced to admit you were mistaken - but we won't be here! ;-)
LOL,:sob:
 
Of course, I disagree. John was extremely careful with chronology. Many people miss his parentheses, and by missing them imagine his book is not in proper order.

For example, if people read from chapter 1 to chapter 11:2, all seems chronological. In fact, add verse 3. But from that point on, many people scratch there head wondering what John was doing. Some people have solved the chapter 11 chronology problem by making a very long parenthesis from 10:1 to the end of chapter 12. Others force the two witnesses backwards into the first half of the week. Neither is the intent of the Author. I am convinced that John wrote 11:4 through 11:13 as a parenthesis. It seems when God was teaching me, He was emphasizing time and timing. Every mention of the last 3.5 years is inside John's chronology or timeline - not in a parenthesis. I also believe that there is another parenthesis in chapter 13 after John mentions the 42 months of authority. Other than the chapter 11 chronology problem, I really don't know why others imagine the book is not in chronological order.

The Two Witnesses will happen during the time of the Trumpets as well as the AntiChrist,...
The two witnesses suddenly show up just 3 1/2 days before the division point - the day the man of sin enters the temple. They show up then because in 11:1-2 the man of sin just moved with his army of Gentiles to Jerusalem. Then, 3.5 days later, he will enter the temple, and those in Judea will begin to flee. They will continue to testify through chapters 12, 13, 14, 15, and into 16, past the first 6 vials, until just 3.5 days before the week. Then their 1260 days of testifying will end and they will be killed. They will lay dead those 3.5 days and be raised with all the other Old Testament saints when the 7th vial is poured out that will end the 70th week.

Happening at the same time...good point. This is truth! During chapters 14 through 16, or during the last half of the week, there are 5 parallel countdowns to the end! John covered the start of each countdown separately because they don't all begin at the same moment. While the Beast is using up his 42 months of authority, those who fled will be being protected, and fleeing, the two witnesses will be testifying and the Gentiles will be trampling the city - all of these happening at the same time.

Sorry, but I am not struggling.
Gods blessing always to all

The truth versus what we think it should be . This is what is really going on .

And i dont blame anyone for not understanding Revelation, it can be a tough read, especially when trying to figure it out.

There is a problem in your math somewhere. And i know this as a fact. It is because of God's purpose in me.

Now is the time you should be using the Gift of Discernment, and let the Holy Spirit be the Guide.
 
Has anyone ever dared to use the Gift of Discernment on whether or not the pre Trib Ratpure is real. I highly doubt it.

I would bet you will never use the Gift of Discernment on it , because you dont want to know the truth
 
I cant wait for you to recieve the Baptism of the Holy Spirit
well what is my motivation to be on here and talk about Jesus and claim i Love GOD, because if i didn't have the HOLY GHOST there is no way i would proclaim JESUS for over 44 years because i don't church and I ain't no christian. Now tell me why would i waste my time talking about JESUS that don't exists?

OH' I get it now, you are calling me a child of The Devil and full of deception a unregenerated creature that has to be converted unto a child of GOD. and I am on my way to hell and condemn to the lake burning with brimstone and fire if I don't repent!
 
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