A powerful 2018 prophetic word

[PloughBoy]

Mark 10:14 But when Jesus saw it, he was indignant and said to them, “Let the children come to me; do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God.

Romans 5:13 For sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. (Babies have no law.)

Romans 7:9 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died.
(Before Paul was old enough to understand right from wrong, he was alive (spiritually). But when he grew old enough to understand, the law, he sinned and died (spiritually).

Some people thing the gospels and Jesus speaking in the gospels was the 21st century and every body had bibles and could read, and knew about what "grammar" and why did he say that and what was the culture like in "The regions of "Galilee". oh i forgot that is not important. and You don;t need to know all of that, sorry. I have not seen so many unlearn christians in my life teaching people what God has made plainly!

Instead of discussion the WORD of GOD they TEACH! with a "AUTHORITY" , but by who? And they Have NO FEAR of error they do not FEAR GOD!
Oh yes i don't fear him , I reverence him. "Ghetto Vernacular"

 

[Reba1]

Mark 10:14 But when Jesus saw it, he was indignant and said to them, “Let the children come to me; do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God.

Romans 5:13 For sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. (Babies have no law.)

Romans 7:9 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died.
(Before Paul was old enough to understand right from wrong, he was alive (spiritually). But when he grew old enough to understand, the law, he sinned and died (spiritually).

lecoope said:
Babies will go to heaven because they are innocent, not because they are born again.

Your choices of Scripture do not address the question ,

 

[PloughBoy]

Your choices of Scripture do not address the question ,

Why do many serve? "The god of their Imaginations" Not knowing "The GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" is a Jealousy GOD!

 

[Sue D.]

Now for a response as to what happens to babies. A person needs to be able to understand right from wrong. Be able to vertalize in some way their heart's belief / acceptance of Jesus Christ being the Son of God and His death, burial and bodily resurrection on the 3rd day. To be saved. 1 Corinthians 15. Romans 10:9-10. A baby can not do that, A baby has no speech except for crying. That's why people call it when a person comes to the 'age of accountability'. They can understand and share what they understand. A child as young as 5 yrs. old Can understand. But mostly kids of Jr. high and older are accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

And we have the example of David and Bathsheba in the Old Testament. Their infant son died and David -- in his mourning said that the child can't come back but that David would see their infant in heaven.

And that's Also why all the babies who've been aborted over the years will be in heaven. That's the Only 'good' thing about abortion. Miscarried babies are in heaven, too.

 

[PloughBoy]

Now for a response as to what happens to babies. A person needs to be able to understand right from wrong. Be able to vertalize in some way their heart's belief / acceptance of Jesus Christ being the Son of God and His death, burial and bodily resurrection on the 3rd day. To be saved. 1 Corinthians 15. Romans 10:9-10. A baby can not do that, A baby has no speech except for crying. That's why people call it when a person comes to the 'age of accountability'. They can understand and share what they understand. A child as young as 5 yrs. old Can understand. But mostly kids of Jr. high and older are accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

And we have the example of David and Bathsheba in the Old Testament. Their infant son died and David -- in his mourning said that the child can't come back but that David would see their infant in heaven.

And that's Also why all the babies who've been aborted over the years will be in heaven. That's the Only 'good' thing about abortion. Miscarried babies are in heaven, too.

DAVID said the baby is dead and cannot come back to life, but i can died and go to the DEAD
True the baby cannot come back from the dead but David can go to the dead>
Baptist teaching is bad! They always add to the bible. and state the bible says something, that it doesn't.


New American Standard Bible
But now he has died; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I am going to him, but he will not return to me.”

David died, The bible says nothing about David going to heaven! He went to DEATH! Where the baby was at! It is between what GOD wants to do with THE BABY, If He sends it to HELL, are we going to condemn GOD are you going give Him Instructions? Are we going to claim HE is UnJust? Or EVIL
GOD is NOT human being! The bible proclaims all humans are evil and corrupted! Man is evil and claims GOD is Like HIM!

Like the BOOK say: "When HE GETS Through, WE are GOING TO KNOW what "GOD" IS! "GOD is A CONSUMING FIRE" he is not going to be "Pretty" He is GOING TO Be "AWESOME"= FEAR! I bet you one Thing, ain't No women going to want to APPROACH HIM!! LOL! Oh yea they make big talk to their big husbands, slap him in the face in a minute! AND SAY; YOU BETTER NOT HIT ME BACK! LOL! You might not obey GOD down here now, but wait until get back! You are going take those pants off, and put on"sundress"!LOL!

That is why i want no part of a institutionalize church they love to lie about the bible! They will pollute you too! "A little leave will leaven the whole lump"

The bible will be saying "Boat" they will say the bible is saying car. And give you a reason it's means car, but it has no wheels on it and floats and travels in the water. But yet they will say it is a car! I been there with them, and "The National Conventions" and "Taught in the National Conferences"

They will have you messed up!. I know many, many, many people and homes have been destroyed by churches! meaning the people who go there.
(Acts 2)BSB
"Brothers, I can tell you with confidence that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that He would place one of his descendants on his throne. Foreseeing this, David spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that He was not abandoned to Hades, nor did His body see decay."…

Acts 13:36
For when David had served God's purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep. His body was buried with his fathers and saw decay.

Church people always want to tell lies to make people feel good Imagine when Jesus get back, a lot of them ain't going be happy when "THE TRUTH" get here!

I don't want people telling me lies to make me feel good, The TRUTH makes me feel GOOD, it may hurt but it is good for me. I don't like nothing about "Darkness" "I am a Child of The LIGHT"

 

[lecoope]

Some people thing the gospels and Jesus speaking in the gospels was the 21st century and every body had bibles and could read, and knew about what "grammar" and why did he say that and what was the culture like in "The regions of "Galilee". oh i forgot that is not important. and You don;t need to know all of that, sorry. I have not seen so many unlearn christians in my life teaching people what God has made plainly!

Instead of discussion the WORD of GOD they TEACH! with a "AUTHORITY" , but by who? And they Have NO FEAR of error they do not FEAR GOD!
Oh yes i don't fear him , I reverence him. "Ghetto Vernacular"

Babies and Children are in every generation.

 

[lecoope]

DAVID said the baby is dead and cannot come back to life, but i can died and go to the DEAD
True the baby cannot come back from the dead but David can go to the dead>
Baptist teaching is bad! They always add to the bible. and state the bible says something, that it doesn't.


New American Standard Bible
But now he has died; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I am going to him, but he will not return to me.”

David died, The bible says nothing about David going to heaven! He went to DEATH! Where the baby was at! It is between what GOD wants to do with THE BABY, If He sends it to HELL, are we going to condemn GOD are you going give Him Instructions? Are we going to claim HE is UnJust? Or EVIL
GOD is NOT human being! The bible proclaims all humans are evil and corrupted! Man is evil and claims GOD is Like HIM!

Like the BOOK say: "When HE GETS Through, WE are GOING TO KNOW what "GOD" IS! "GOD is A CONSUMING FIRE" he is not going to be "Pretty" He is GOING TO Be "AWESOME"= FEAR! I bet you one Thing, ain't No women going to want to APPROACH HIM!! LOL! Oh yea they make big talk to their big husbands, slap him in the face in a minute! AND SAY; YOU BETTER NOT HIT ME BACK! LOL! You might not obey GOD down here now, but wait until get back! You are going take those pants off, and put on"sundress"!LOL!

That is why i want no part of a institutionalize church they love to lie about the bible! They will pollute you too! "A little leave will leaven the whole lump"

The bible will be saying "Boat" they will say the bible is saying car. And give you a reason it's means car, but it has no wheels on it and floats and travels in the water. But yet they will say it is a car! I been there with them, and "The National Conventions" and "Taught in the National Conferences"

They will have you messed up!. I know many, many, many people and homes have been destroyed by churches! meaning the people who go there.
(Acts 2)BSB
"Brothers, I can tell you with confidence that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that He would place one of his descendants on his throne. Foreseeing this, David spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that He was not abandoned to Hades, nor did His body see decay."…

Acts 13:36
For when David had served God's purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep. His body was buried with his fathers and saw decay.

Church people always want to tell lies to make people feel good Imagine when Jesus get back, a lot of them ain't going be happy when "THE TRUTH" get here!

I don't want people telling me lies to make me feel good, The TRUTH makes me feel GOOD, it may hurt but it is good for me. I don't like nothing about "Darkness" "I am a Child of The LIGHT"

The truth is, when a believer dies today, they go to heaven. Why would anyone doubt this?

 

[lecoope]

Ok, what about those who died from "Genesis" to the Last page in the Gospels? "John the Baptist was the for runner for Christ' David had the Holy SPIRIT, "Take not thy Holy Spirit from me"
New American Standard Bible
Do not cast me away from Your presence, And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.

Like i have said, we all are sinners!

New Living Translation
For I was born a sinner— yes, from the moment my mother conceived me.
English Standard Version
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.

But like i have said: the church have breed a whole host of "PELAGIANS Christians" It only use to be a few, but now it has "SPREAD like wild fire" through out "Christianity"

English Standard Version
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

PS That is why so many "Post and Stick" form the internet This is what this mean.

They have not , dug out nothing! They dig alright , in somebody else back yard! Look what i found. you ain't found nothing, you stole it!

Ok, what about those who died from "Genesis" to the Last page in the Gospels? When they died they went to hell, but to the Abraham's Bosom side. There they had to remain until Jesus died and rose again. When He arose, He also rose up the elders from the Old Testament. When He ascended, He emptied Abraham's Bosom and took them all (in their Spirit form) to heaven. By now countless people have been to heaven and talked with some of them, and returned to their bodies with a testimony. People have BEEN THERE and talked with David, Abraham, Adam, Eve, and many others. People have seen multiplied millions of aborted babies.

 

[Reba1]

Ok, what about those who died from "Genesis" to the Last page in the Gospels? When they died they went to hell, but to the Abraham's Bosom side. There they had to remain until Jesus died and rose again. When He arose, He also rose up the elders from the Old Testament. When He ascended, He emptied Abraham's Bosom and took them all (in their Spirit form) to heaven. By now countless people have been to heaven and talked with some of them, and returned to their bodies with a testimony. People have BEEN THERE and talked with David, Abraham, Adam, Eve, and many others. People have seen multiplied millions of aborted babies.

Scripture support?

 

[Sue D.]

@PloughBoy -- how about the first part of my post regarding babies generally speaking and their ability to be saved?

By the way -- my response has nothing to do with being Baptist -- everything to do with Scripture / God's Word.

 

[Sue D.]

@PloughBoy -- look at 2 Samuel 12 :23 "But now he is dead; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me."

God's Word (NKJ) says that in death, David will be with his infant son who just died but his infant son cannot be brought back to life. His son had been sick for 7 days -- David had pleaded with God for those 7 days for his infant sons' life to be spared. God decided to take his infant son's life Anyway -- thus -- David knew that eventually he would be with his son for eternity.

David admitted his sin to Nathan vs 13 and after the fact vs 20 "..... he went into the house of the Lord and worshiped."

Your comments sound more like You are 'editing' God's Word to suit your personal beliefs.

 

[PloughBoy]

The truth is, when a believer dies today, they go to heaven. Why would anyone doubt this?

Because I am not a christian. I am not trying to get converted into one. So please do not force on me , to be one, God does not force anyone to believe in Him, GOD, is Kind and loving. And Jesus Christ is liken unto a "gentlemen" He does not force HIS way into anyones life. ...... Repeat I said: "LIKEN" "LIKEN" "LIKEN". Since the english iLanguage is so hard for many to really understand. Mainly because of "ETYMOLOGY" "Etymology" "Etymology" and not the fault of the reader.
And please let the "reader" know. [ when the Hebrew text repeats a word 3 times, it only means "PLEASE Take Notice of This WORD"]. Example" "Holy, Holy, Holy". GOD is saying to HIS people, pay close attention and get the full meaning of this word. at This "Junction" You don't have to take notice to what i have said. You can take it and throw in a trash can, no big deal. "Sometimes another man's Gold, is another man's trash"

Have a nice day

 

[PloughBoy]

Ok, what about those who died from "Genesis" to the Last page in the Gospels? When they died they went to hell, but to the Abraham's Bosom side. There they had to remain until Jesus died and rose again. When He arose, He also rose up the elders from the Old Testament. When He ascended, He emptied Abraham's Bosom and took them all (in their Spirit form) to heaven. By now countless people have been to heaven and talked with some of them, and returned to their bodies with a testimony. People have BEEN THERE and talked with David, Abraham, Adam, Eve, and many others. People have seen multiplied millions of aborted babies.

If that is what you believe, I am not your GOD neither your instructor. ...And that you have exhibit the "Authoritative Honor" from GOD the FATHER to "Promote" this Proclamation" from The Breath of HIS BEING and delivery this message "Through OUT The WORLD as Being HOLY and DIVINE" For He has Given you THE AMBASSADOR SEAL to be a Representative of HIM through out ETERNITY. Who am I, to resists, "The Representative of GOD's "HOLY And DIVINE WORD"..

"But I tell you that men will give an account on the day of judgment for every "thoughtless" word they have spoken. ...For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”…

"But i do know for sure, there are many who miss understands the words that come out of someone's mouth" By not thinking thoroughly by "culture and race" I thank GOD for The Science and The "Gift" of "LINGUISTICS"

It is your right to think as you please, for i am not your enemy. But what does it matter, how i feel For this is a corrupted world who GOD will destroy. He will not repair, and give us an OLD Corrupted Creation. But HE WILL make All things "BRAND NEW"! No repair, FOR the GOD I BELIEVE IN, DOES NOT HAVE To give us some old repair Creation. My GOD is A CREATOR! For He is Not a MAN! and i am not a Christian for the ones i have seen all my life, I don't want to be nothing like them.

But let this be known I don't hate any one, I love them all! The whole Human race! even "ADOLF HITLER"!

 

[PloughBoy]

@PloughBoy -- how about the first part of my post regarding babies generally speaking and their ability to be saved?

By the way -- my response has nothing to do with being Baptist -- everything to do with Scripture / God's Word.

But may i say this too.
I was Baptize as a "BAPTIST" around 8 years old , I still have the Baptism Certificate with The GOLD Seal Stamp In GOLD! I have Baptize people, i have Baptize 2 of my Children into the "Baptist" faith. My Grandfather and My Grandmother was "Reformed Baptist" My Paternal Great Grand mother and her sisters where "Reformed Baptist Missionary's to the "Canadians" Indian Tribes. I have taught in "The Baptist National Conference".

I made a statement about GOD and NOW everyone whats to CONDEMN me to HELL and Proclaim me as a "FALSE TEACHER" of God"s holy and divine word!
Your thoughts have been well "Documented" into the "The Halls of Justice' at The "BEMA" Seat. You will get your day in court and your words will be heard concerning your complaint of my "falsehood". I do stand accused And i will accept my punishment when found guilty. For i have no other choice.
About something i have proclaim over a thousand times in the life of my Ministry! And I will repeat it again, and may GOD condemn me to HELL, burning with Brimstone and FIRE!

"For the LAYMAN in LAYMAN terms"
"God is the one who makes the Decision who go's to hell and who go's to heaven" And every one who is conceive into his mothers womb is a "SINNER" and everyone needs the GRACE of GOD, AND GOD determines who will be save "Through JESUS Christ" Our LORD and SAVIOR! He has the LAST WORD, For HE is The "ALPHA & The OMEGA" and No one else makes "That DECISION" about HIS own!
King SAUL, SAMUEL, DAVID, SOLOMON, MOSES, JOB, PAUL, PETER, The CHURCH none of us is GOD, GOD MAKES The Final The Decision. No One Is "SOVEREIGN" No ONE "SUPER RULES" The HEAVENS, The Oceans, The Waves, The WIND, The FIRE, The BABIES in THE WOMB. even over "SALVATION", GOD has the LAST WORD! And He has left nothing in mans hands, Man gave it all UP, in the GARDEN of EDEN" whether you believe it not! I do.
For When mankind dis-obeyed GOD it was so bad, to compared it: Man look GOD into HIS Face and SPIT right Between GODS eyes, and CLAIMED I WILL NOT OBEY YOU! And in this modern christianity, men and women think that GOD should be Their slave and HE should do everything they want by prayer and and 3 rubs on the GENIE's bottle. And mankind is so innocent and pure and GOD must bow down to them and honor them for who they are.

I do not believe the BIBLE teaches that. But man do, Sorry i must be going to HELL. in "RainBow" Colors THE RAINBOW IN THE SKY! I HAD TO SAY THAT BECAUSE MANY MIGHT THING I AN THINKING ABOUT SOMETHINGS ELSE.

"Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
"Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Because in evil I was formed in the womb and in sin my mother conceived me.

In these last few days so many christians have admitted, they tell lies to make people feel good. Not realizing that lies breeds more lies, in all directions and the lies cease to become "sinful" in their eyes, but the lies blooms into a form of "righteousness" that they will defend with their life. And most will not be able to return to the clear path.

"For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. [SO SINCE THEY HAVE DONE THIS SIN, NOW GOD WILL DO THIS]>

THEREFORE God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God FOR A LIE AND worshiped and served THE CREATURE rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

We are Born CREATURE Pleasers! and we Hate The TRUTH How many time have we Lied, lied and said "I love you" born we liars we are. We cannot help it Born Sinners, We even lie about that.

King James Bible
For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I SHOULD NOT BE THE SERVANT OF CHRIST.

Have you forsaken all?

 

[Sue D.]

I'll be going to a different thread of conversation.

 

[PloughBoy]

@PloughBoy -- look at 2 Samuel 12 :23 "But now he is dead; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me."

God's Word (NKJ) says that in death, David will be with his infant son who just died but his infant son cannot be brought back to life. His son had been sick for 7 days -- David had pleaded with God for those 7 days for his infant sons' life to be spared. God decided to take his infant son's life Anyway -- thus -- David knew that eventually he would be with his son for eternity.

David admitted his sin to Nathan vs 13 and after the fact vs 20 "..... he went into the house of the Lord and worshiped."

Your comments sound more like You are 'editing' God's Word to suit your personal beliefs.

There is no "EISEGESIS" in my Interpretation of the Biblical text. I did not assume what David meant, "When the plain sense of scripture, makes common sense, you seek no other sense" Common sense, the baby cannot come back from the dead. Common sense: David can died and go to the same place his child went to and that place is the place is of The DEAD. DAVID died too. Where did he go? The Place of The DEAD. Where was the Child? The place of the DEAD. And that is exactly what he said. Common Biblical sense.

Many people and christians has said: When we die we go to heaven, Many have said; Pastors say things, to make people feel good. when i first got into the Ministry I ask The Pastors, why don't you tell the people the "TRUTH" they told me, because, they would not want Jesus and they would not come to church if we tell them the TRUTH! I am not lying! They don't want to know the TRUTH! The pastors has said this, GOD has said; in His WORD,, The People do not want the TRUTH they love LIES. But Tell them anyway.

It is a Daunting Task, that is proclaim through out the BIBLE. We have so many types of "Gospels" but only one "THE GOOD NEWS ACCORDING TO JESUS CHRIST" and the others gospels are "The Gospel according to Christians about JESUS CHRIST" there is a difference. And how so many do not even know the difference between the 2.

(John 3)KJV
"If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? ..And NO MAN HATH ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN, BUT HE that CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, even the Son of man which is in heaven. ..And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: ..That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."

King James Bible
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Note: the words: "under heaven given unto men" "GOD THE FATHER IS "SOVEREIGN"! GOD the FATHER is not bound by LAWS HE is above all! He does as he pleases, and He sure is not trying to please mankind. But he does show a "benevolent grace and a benevolent love" to all mankind, per se his WORD.

Now to be these things are clear and simple. But to the layman I know it is difficult. And also it is hard to present it to the "layman" but our task is to bring up not to come down. And we know only a few will grasp it. AND Those are the people we labor for. We all have different missions. For some are hungry for the Manna that falls from heaven others is another story. The manna eaters know, because they are fed.

BUT There will be always, in many categories a "Remnant According to Grace" That need not to be explain.

 

[Reba1]

Psa_58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

 

[PloughBoy]

Acts 2:34,35
For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, …

 

[lecoope]

Scripture support?

Look up how many times "the pit" is mentioned in the Old Testament.
I just looked: 66 times. Some of them for a shallow pit like they put Joseph in. But the rest?


sheol, underworld, grave, hell, pit

1. the underworld
2. Sheol - the OT designation for the abode of the dead

Here is one example:

Psa 89:48
What man is he that liveth, and shall not see death? shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the grave? Selah


Jesus to the thief on the cross: He did not say He would see the thief in heaven, but rather in "paradise."

 

[lecoope]

Psa_58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

This is only a figure of speech. A baby cannot "go astray."