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[lecoope]

There is no "EISEGESIS" in my Interpretation of the Biblical text. I did not assume what David meant, "When the plain sense of scripture, makes common sense, you seek no other sense" Common sense, the baby cannot come back from the dead. Common sense: David can died and go to the same place his child went to and that place is the place is of The DEAD. DAVID died too. Where did he go? The Place of The DEAD. Where was the Child? The place of the DEAD. And that is exactly what he said. Common Biblical sense.

Many people and christians has said: When we die we go to heaven, Many have said; Pastors say things, to make people feel good. when i first got into the Ministry I ask The Pastors, why don't you tell the people the "TRUTH" they told me, because, they would not want Jesus and they would not come to church if we tell them the TRUTH! I am not lying! They don't want to know the TRUTH! The pastors has said this, GOD has said; in His WORD,, The People do not want the TRUTH they love LIES. But Tell them anyway.

It is a Daunting Task, that is proclaim through out the BIBLE. We have so many types of "Gospels" but only one "THE GOOD NEWS ACCORDING TO JESUS CHRIST" and the others gospels are "The Gospel according to Christians about JESUS CHRIST" there is a difference. And how so many do not even know the difference between the 2.

(John 3)KJV
"If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? ..And NO MAN HATH ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN, BUT HE that CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, even the Son of man which is in heaven. ..And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: ..That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."

King James Bible
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Note: the words: "under heaven given unto men" "GOD THE FATHER IS "SOVEREIGN"! GOD the FATHER is not bound by LAWS HE is above all! He does as he pleases, and He sure is not trying to please mankind. But he does show a "benevolent grace and a benevolent love" to all mankind, per se his WORD.

Now to be these things are clear and simple. But to the layman I know it is difficult. And also it is hard to present it to the "layman" but our task is to bring up not to come down. And we know only a few will grasp it. AND Those are the people we labor for. We all have different missions. For some are hungry for the Manna that falls from heaven others is another story. The manna eaters know, because they are fed.

BUT There will be always, in many categories a "Remnant According to Grace" That need not to be explain.

You missed one: the gospel according to Paul.


Romans 2:16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
We will all be judged according to Paul's gospel.

 

[lecoope]

Because I am not a christian. I am not trying to get converted into one. So please do not force on me , to be one, God does not force anyone to believe in Him, GOD, is Kind and loving. And Jesus Christ is liken unto a "gentlemen" He does not force HIS way into anyones life. ...... Repeat I said: "LIKEN" "LIKEN" "LIKEN". Since the english iLanguage is so hard for many to really understand. Mainly because of "ETYMOLOGY" "Etymology" "Etymology" and not the fault of the reader.
And please let the "reader" know. [ when the Hebrew text repeats a word 3 times, it only means "PLEASE Take Notice of This WORD"]. Example" "Holy, Holy, Holy". GOD is saying to HIS people, pay close attention and get the full meaning of this word. at This "Junction" You don't have to take notice to what i have said. You can take it and throw in a trash can, no big deal. "Sometimes another man's Gold, is another man's trash"

Have a nice day

Are you saying you don't believe that the Christ is the only Begotten Son of God? Are you saying you don't want to follow Him?
Are you saying you don't call on Him?


Acts 2:21
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

I find this hard to believe. I suspect you have called on Him!

 

[Bill]

Ok, what about those who died from "Genesis" to the Last page in the Gospels? "John the Baptist was the for runner for Christ' David had the Holy SPIRIT, "Take not thy Holy Spirit from me"
New American Standard Bible
Do not cast me away from Your presence, And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.

Like i have said, we all are sinners!

New Living Translation
For I was born a sinner— yes, from the moment my mother conceived me.
English Standard Version
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.

But like i have said: the church have breed a whole host of "PELAGIANS Christians" It only use to be a few, but now it has "SPREAD like wild fire" through out "Christianity"

English Standard Version
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

PS That is why so many "Post and Stick" form the internet This is what this mean.

They have not , dug out nothing! They dig alright , in somebody else back yard! Look what i found. you ain't found nothing, you stole it!

I dont post others thoughts . No need to . Many dont bother listening to the scripture as they read it anyways.

As an example , the concept of osas is all over the place . Even in TJ its a common view. Yet , it is clearly written in scripture, that you can lose your salvation via sin. All you have to do is pay attention to what is written.

 

[Reba1]

This is only a figure of speech. A baby cannot "go astray."

Are the Psalms God Word?

 

[Reba1]

Ok, what about those who died from "Genesis" to the Last page in the Gospels? When they died they went to hell, but to the Abraham's Bosom side. There they had to remain until Jesus died and rose again. When He arose, He also rose up the elders from the Old Testament. When He ascended, He emptied Abraham's Bosom and took them all (in their Spirit form) to heaven. By now countless people have been to heaven and talked with some of them, and returned to their bodies with a testimony. People have BEEN THERE and talked with David, Abraham, Adam, Eve, and many others. People have seen multiplied millions of aborted babies.

When they died they went to hell, but to the Abraham's Bosom side.

Scripture support?

There they had to remain until Jesus died and rose again. When He arose, He also rose up the elders from the Old Testament. When He ascended, He emptied Abraham's Bosom and took them all (in their Spirit form) to heaven.

Scripture support?

By now countless people have been to heaven and talked with some of them, and returned to their bodies with a testimony

Scripture support?

People have seen multiplied millions of aborted babies.

Scripture support?

Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,


2Sa 12:22 And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?
2Sa 12:23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.

Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

 

[Sue D.]

I dont post others thoughts . No need to . Many dont bother listening to the scripture as they read it anyways.

As an example , the concept of osas is all over the place . Even in TJ its a common view. Yet , it is clearly written in scripture, that you can lose your salvation via sin. All you have to do is pay attention to what is written.

1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness."

No one on this earth is going to 'not sin' in some way or another. But we do have forgiveness. As well as Ephesians 1:13-14. The sealing of the Holy Spirit. Once a person Does accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior, the Holy Spirit immediately comes to indwell us and stays until we are safe with Jesus Christ. And that is called the sealing of the Holy Spirit. And the 'fruit' Of that sealing of the Holy Spirit is the positive change He makes in the person's life. There Will Be a difference in the person. It's inevitable. If that fruit Isn't present -- Then there would be reason to question the person's salvation. But that is done in a loving, caring, private way.

Easy-believism / emotionalism can create problems. 'Walking-the-aisle" can Also end up being problematic. Walking the / an aisle simply gets a person from one place to another. It probably takes a person to the front of the church where someone will be able to take them aside to talk with them. Why have they come forward? What they understand / believe, etc.

 

[Bill]

1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness."

No one on this earth is going to 'not sin' in some way or another. But we do have forgiveness. As well as Ephesians 1:13-14. The sealing of the Holy Spirit. Once a person Does accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior, the Holy Spirit immediately comes to indwell us and stays until we are safe with Jesus Christ. And that is called the sealing of the Holy Spirit. And the 'fruit' Of that sealing of the Holy Spirit is the positive change He makes in the person's life. There Will Be a difference in the person. It's inevitable. If that fruit Isn't present -- Then there would be reason to question the person's salvation. But that is done in a loving, caring, private way.

Easy-believism / emotionalism can create problems. 'Walking-the-aisle" can Also end up being problematic. Walking the / an aisle simply gets a person from one place to another. It probably takes a person to the front of the church where someone will be able to take them aside to talk with them. Why have they come forward? What they understand / believe, etc.

Sue after reading Reba 1's post # 166, the reading of scripture goes this way < and the understanding goes this way > . I rest my cast

 

[Bill]

1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness."

No one on this earth is going to 'not sin' in some way or another. But we do have forgiveness. As well as Ephesians 1:13-14. The sealing of the Holy Spirit. Once a person Does accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior, the Holy Spirit immediately comes to indwell us and stays until we are safe with Jesus Christ. And that is called the sealing of the Holy Spirit. And the 'fruit' Of that sealing of the Holy Spirit is the positive change He makes in the person's life. There Will Be a difference in the person. It's inevitable. If that fruit Isn't present -- Then there would be reason to question the person's salvation. But that is done in a loving, caring, private way.

Easy-believism / emotionalism can create problems. 'Walking-the-aisle" can Also end up being problematic. Walking the / an aisle simply gets a person from one place to another. It probably takes a person to the front of the church where someone will be able to take them aside to talk with them. Why have they come forward? What they understand / believe, etc.

Sue after reading Reba1's post # 166 i rest my case .

Reading and understanding scripture are like these arrows < > . The reading goes this way < and the understanding goes this way >.

Are the Psalms God Word?

Are Paul's writing God's Word? Are the Gospels God's Word?

Please read Gospel of John 1:1

 

[Reba1]

Are Paul's writing God's Word? Are the Gospels God's Word?

Yes

 

[Bill]

Yes

Then why wouldnt the Psalms be God's Word ?

Or did i misunderstand your question ? ( i do that plenty here . Lol )

 

[Reba1]

@Bill The question went with the quote.

 

[lecoope]

Scripture support?

Scripture support?


Scripture support?
Scripture support?

Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,


2Sa 12:22 And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?
2Sa 12:23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.

Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

The book of Acts. It is continuing, just not written in the bible. God has never changed. Isaiah saw the throne room. Ezekiel saw the throne room. Paul was taken to heaven but was not allowed to write that he saw. Did Elijah "ascend?" No, He was taken. Did Enoch "ascend?" No, He was taken. Humans don't have the power in themselves to "ascend" into heaven. However, we can certainly be taken. Paul was.

 

[Reba1]

The book of Acts. It is continuing, just not written in the bible. God has never changed. Isaiah saw the throne room. Ezekiel saw the throne room. Paul was taken to heaven but was not allowed to write that he saw. Did Elijah "ascend?" No, He was taken. Did Enoch "ascend?" No, He was taken. Humans don't have the power in themselves to "ascend" into heaven. However, we can certainly be taken. Paul was.

I dont see.read a passage of support for your words.

 

[lecoope]

There is truth in the "free will" baptist theory. We come to Jesus (because we are drawn by the Holy Spirit) by an act our our will. We come because we WANT (our will) to come. "Scriptural support?" Rev. 22:17 "... And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. "

Is it possible a believer, with the seal of the Holy Spirit, could get far enough into sin that they would, of their own will, want to walk OUT of the Blood covenant? Yes, it is possible. But even then, if they are not a mature believe, Jesus would fight to keep them. If they are a mature believer, and know what they are doing, and they are not at that moment being oppressed by the devil, God will let them go, proving OSAS as nonsense. Scriptural support: Read Heb. 6.

The truth is, it is VERY DIFFICULT to get out from under the Blood covenant, and even more difficult for a baby Christian, but for a mature Christian it is possible.

 

[lecoope]

I dont see.read a passage of support for your words.

Jesus could ascend or descend under His own power: He is God. He did with Moses, and with Abraham (before He took on flesh). Can a human ascend to heaven under his or her own power? Does God have to spell it out word for word, or can we grasp this truth be common sense and by what IS written?

As you have probably already noticed, God did not spell out word for word everything He wants us to know. It must be He expects us to study and use our mental capacities. A classic example: God has not written word for word WHEN the rapture will take place. That is why there are some pre, some mid, and some post. However, with careful study we can be sure the rapture will be PREtrib and PREwrath.

 

[Reba1]

The book of Acts. It is continuing, just not written in the bible. God has never changed. Isaiah saw the throne room. Ezekiel saw the throne room. Paul was taken to heaven but was not allowed to write that he saw. Did Elijah "ascend?" No, He was taken. Did Enoch "ascend?" No, He was taken. Humans don't have the power in themselves to "ascend" into heaven. However, we can certainly be taken. Paul was.

The book of Acts. It is continuing, just not written in the bible.

I read you believe you are free to add to God's Word what ever fits your theology at what ever time.

 

[PloughBoy]

You missed one: the gospel according to Paul.


Romans 2:16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
We will all be judged according to Paul's gospel.

New International Version
This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares. [as my good news declares] or as I have "Proclaimed" according to JESUS CHRIST. syntax syntax and a knowledge of the english language and the style of Koine Greek writings

Some translations are dangerous and favor the author.

 

[Sue D.]

It's All God's Word and Paul was Many of the authors God chose to write through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

 

[PloughBoy]

It's All God's Word and Paul was Many of the authors God chose to write through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

What about those who made up words to try to translate what Paul or other writers of the Scrolls was saying, sometimes there was no such word in another language? Just like the word showbread, atonement , their is not such a word in the "Orginal Text"

So did GOD chose also translators since their was no dictionaries or Lexicons for words to translate into other languages out of the Biblical Scrolls?

 

[Reba1]

What about those who made up words to try to translate what Paul or other writers of the Scrolls was saying, sometimes there was no such word in another language? Just like the word showbread, atonement , their is not such a word in the "Orginal Text"

So did GOD chose also translators since their was no dictionaries or Lexicons for words to translate into other languages out of the Biblical Scrolls?

I believe the Bible is the Word of God. I also believe God is big enough to preserve His Word. Man can miss up what he thinks the Scripture are all he wants.. Man is not in control God is.