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A Serious Question!!!!!

God will humble this entire world; I BELIEVE.
There are things coming that strong men will die from heart attacks at the visual of what is coming.
I have seen these things; I have heard His Word; He has taken me and unveiled scriptures, proving all things.

Are we ready? Can you even imagine the dead so thick that the fowls of the air will feast upon our rotting flesh?
If one will truly mediate upon things coming, instead of things past, one will come into a true understanding of what it means to "fear God". God is Right. He is the only One good. Are we found in HIM? or self?

In the New Testament, Jesus speaks carnal parables to teach spiritual manifestations.
We have to be born again and Spirit filled to receive God's wisdom and understanding by revelation knowledge of Jesus Christ. Amen
In Revelations, He speaks of spiritual manifestations, thrown from heaven, coming to the carnal world.
The majority can not even preach on Revelations, because the carnal still lean upon their own understanding; and God will not lift the dark veil until you humble yourself, CRYING OUT Abba Father, with a repentant heart. He gives us ALL, what we need, right when we need it; reproach, reprove, rebuke....

Do you know HIM? What is consuming our hearts?
All praise, glory and honor be unto God. Amen
 
The way i see it. We are commanded to love and forgive. Jesus never said only if this happens or if that does not happen. No, Mark 11:25 says forgive all and any ought right then and there. I am not one to major in offenses as some clearly do. I forgive with out being asked to for it pleases the Father and i also agree there can still be consequences to pay but that has nothing to do with if i forgive or not.
Just sayen
Blessings
James
 
Ephesians 1:4-6
just as [in His love] He chose us in Christ [actually selected us for Himself as His own] before the foundation of the world, so that we would be holy [that is, consecrated, set apart for Him, purpose-driven] and blameless in His sight. In love 5 He predestined and lovingly planned for us to be adopted to Himself as [His own] children through Jesus Christ, in accordance with the kind intention and good pleasure of His will— 6 to the praise of His glorious grace and favor, which He so freely bestowed on us in the Beloved [His Son, Jesus Christ].
 
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B-A-C said:
You can't just take a lot of scriptures about predestination (about Jesus).
and another group of scriptures about forgiveness, and post them side by side
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B-A-C said:
None of the scriptures you posted have the words predestination,
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or foundation of the earth, and forgiveness of sins

I don't know how many times I have to re-state these, but I guess it is the same as when Jesus said"70 times 7"!':
  1. Romans 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers ( predestine, there it is why do you try to deny ? Is it to fit your dialogue?
  2. Ephesians 1:4 Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes ( if you can't acknowledge that " chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault" is the same as forgiveness, then your hopeless on this issue!
  3. 1 Peter 1:20 He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you ( there it is "before the foundation of the world".....God's scripture....what do you say it means?
B-A-C said:
But I do need to confess my sins and ask for forgiveness.
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You can never go back and find where I said what you doing is wrong, what I am saying it is not necessary...having a repentant heart and thanking him for what he did should be!..Repenting , confession is not a continued requirement...just one time to receive the Holy Spirit and be saved.Let me ask this,
  1. As time goes forward and when you forget to repent for a sin , what then?
  2. According to your logic, when you miss just one are you not forgiven and not saved at that point?
 
Ophel said:
Ephesians 1:4-6
just as [in His love] He chose us in Christ [actually selected us for Himself as His own] before the foundation of the world, so that we would be holy [that is, consecrated, set apart for Him, purpose-driven] and blameless in His sight. In love 5 He predestined and lovingly planned for us to be adopted to Himself as [His own] children through Jesus Christ, in accordance with the kind intention and good pleasure of His will— 6 to the praise of His glorious grace and favor, which He so freely bestowed on us in the Beloved [His Son, Jesus Christ].
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Amen.. it is all of him and none of us...he gets all the glory...He is "all -in all" and we can offer no works!
 
Psalm 103:8-12 The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. He will not always chide, nor will he keep his anger forever. He does not deal with us according to our sins, nor repay us according to our iniquities. For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his steadfast love toward those who fear him; as far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us.
 
Nice Kym! I believe it is far better to think of others in the same light Jesus chooses to look at us. Phil 4:7-8
 
Brighthouse said:
Ah brother Bac!!! Luke 23;34,but Judas did know!!!The one who betrayed him did know!
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Judas never did believe as Jesus himself said so.

John 6:64.. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
 
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Sure he believed Curtis!! he was an apostle! hehe ( Acts 1:23-26) VERSE 25!
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Even today we have people who call themselves believers but have only made a mental assent to Jesus, but not a heart's decision to follow Him. People can have their own agendas. Judas was such a one, despite being included among the inner circle of disciples of Jesus.
 
Judas never really believed in Jesus. I am sure he thought he was a prophet of God, and good man, but many people believe this yet that does not save anyone
Jesus prayed for all of his disciples that his father would protect them from the evil. Jesus even said "no one can snatch them from my hand..." Of course if you are never in his hands then that is a different story as with the case of Judas.

Mat 26:24 The Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born."

Joh 17:12 While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

Judas was never saved nor did he really ever believe in Jesus or he would have never been lost. It would have been better for Judas to never have been born as he is known as the the son of destruction!!

This should not be any alarming information as there is also among the Church today the same kind of people who look like believers, but are not. They are following the same direction as Judas In their "greed" they exploit the Church for money, and use false words to do so.

2Pe 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
2Pe 2:2 And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed.
2Pe 2:3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
 
humm ok let us say for argument sake you are both correct. This line of thinking would go with those who believe in once saved always saved theology. So if you are both correct as Judas not being a believer,then none of them were. Because Matt 26:56 says they all left him and fled. Right?
 
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humm ok let us say for argument sake you are both correct. This line of thinking would go with those who believe in once saved always saved theology. So if you are both correct as Judas not being a believer,then none of them were. Because Matt 26:56 says they all left him and fled. Right?
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There is a huge difference between "believing" in Jesus and then denying him out of fear, or leaving him out of fear for their lives as apposed to never believing in him, and betraying Jesus.
 
James 1:6-8 makes things clear to me bro, does not matter the reason. For unbelief in any fashion causes all to not receive anything from God,I do not see any exception in this scripture.
 
Brighthouse said:
James 1:6-8 makes things clear to me bro, does not matter the reason. For unbelief in any fashion causes all to not receive anything from God,I do not see any exception in this scripture.
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There are those who make it a life's mission to disbelieve, and reject Jesus as Lord and savior. These people deny him, and so does the Lord towards them. A Christian believer who in a moment of weakness, or out of fear become "faithless" the Lord does not abandon them as he can not deny himself.

2Ti 2:12 if we endure, we will also reign with him; if we deny him, he also will deny us;
2Ti 2:13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful— for he cannot deny himself.
 
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