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Not at all. The individual through their own eyes must come to a decision that God already knows you will make. Do you think He was surprised by you pulling away? That being said, me not being God, am I not allowed to sorrow for those who seemingly had Him and now reject him?

Even your testimony to the difficulties in your life, does not diminish my sorrow, but rather increase it! For I sorrow for myself and rejection of the call He would have me do as well. Yet, where would I go? The words of Peter resonate throughout my very soul to this day…."Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life. "We have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God." John 6:68-69

Because things have not turned out as "I" would have desired them to, would that mean I have to reject the truth I still know is in Christ Jesus?

My own brother died violently in a mental hospital during a time that it was little more than a warehouse. A tender soul, caught in a world that had no love for him as he was. He had already lost the faculties to function in the society of that time due to the cruelties of others, but still believed even though by then many concepts that are discussed here at Talk Jesus would be beyond him to comprehend. Because this happened to my brother who I loved. Should I then reject the truth I know is in Christ Jesus?

I take a young man (37), to church on Wednesday nights for a few years now. I guess not so young being 37, (perspective), who stands barely 4 ft. something, only sees changing light shadows to get around. Should have been according to the doctors dead as a teenager. Who stumbled over his mother’s dead body who he could not see or help and then was forced to leave with family who were ungodly and introduced him to the darkness that is prevalent in our society. Even still, he has grown in the love of the Lord over these passing years. Not without bumps and bruises that we all have and many continue to live with.

The point of these is that everyone, I mean everyone undergoes trials and tribulations in life. Be they rich, poor, healthy, sick, you name it. The difference is in how we come to terms with the conditions we live in. Besides Peter, Paul also said something that also resonates with me, because it really took a while for me to come to not only understand it intellectually, but to get past the worldliness that was telling me that it was impossible, and to finally see it/apply it in my own life. Don't get me wrong, I've been on my knees and had tears running down checks before God, and the words of Paul, were the last things on my mind. Still, the truth is not so easily cast aside when one knows that it is “Truth”! With this realization, then one can come to understand, how a man in prison could be writing these words. Who had also faced many more trials and tribulations, than I could talk of or imagine. Eyes wide open, that we too could do and be as was written.

Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, rejoice! Philippians 4:4

Even as I sorrow, I also rejoice that there is always hope in the Lord Jesus Christ and that my prayers and those of others, may reach heavenward that our intercessor will intercede for us on your behalf and also of those many others. In the name of Jesus Christ I pray. Amen.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.

YBIC

Nick

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If Christianity has become nothing but bible studying, and a place for enlightenment then I'm sorry but that is not what I want to sign up too. Christians shouldn't go around claiming their God is all powerful if that God doesn't seem to do anything that would quantify it's power. All I want is to see this God in action, just like he's described from the bible.
 
If Christianity has become nothing but bible studying, and a place for enlightenment then I'm sorry but that is not what I want to sign up too. Christians shouldn't go around claiming their God is all powerful if that God doesn't seem to do anything that would quantify it's power. All I want is to see this God in action, just like he's described from the bible.
If you have already made up your mind that you believe in your own made up in your head, then why are you here?
 
Most of what the Christian claims "Proof of experience" and "Inner transformation" is the exact same evidence I now have, but without attributing this phenomena to a Deity.

Which God do I thank for helping me restore my life, when that restoration came from walking away from the true God?
Again...it is not about which god or for god to show himself to you. Stop this silly reasoning already. The true God will reveal Himself to you / anyone when you come to Him on His terms. The more you speak the more I believe God knew your heart was not truthful / sufficiently committed from the beginning. God wants nothing to do with fake Christianity. I believe this phase you going through is good. You need to clear your mind and return to acid tested truth, which if you search sincerely and truthfully will lead you into a proper relationship and commitment to Jesus. I am praying for you bud! That God keep you and not give up on you!

2 Cor 13:5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
 
Again...it is not about which god or for god to show himself to you. Stop this silly reasoning already. The true God will reveal Himself to you / anyone when you come to Him on His terms. The more you speak the more I believe God knew your heart was not truthful / sufficiently committed from the beginning. God wants nothing to do with fake Christianity. I believe this phase you going through is good. You need to clear your mind and return to acid tested truth, which if you search sincerely and truthfully will lead you into a proper relationship and commitment to Jesus. I am praying for you bud! That God keep you and not give up on you!

2 Cor 13:5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
Only God himself can bring me back, no human can do that or has the right too.
 
Only God himself can bring me back
Bring you back from where? You never even started!! If you had started, you would have never left!!!

1John 2:18 Dear children, the last hour is here. You have heard that the Antichrist is coming, and already many such antichrists have appeared. From this we know that the last hour has come.
1John 2:19 These people left our churches, but they never really belonged with us; otherwise they would have stayed with us. When they left, it proved that they did not belong with us.

Which is why the first time I answered you on this forum I gave you this scripture, and if you never do this, you will never start or become a child of God!!!!!

Rom 10:9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
Rom 10:10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved. (NLT)
 
If Christianity has become nothing but bible studying, and a place for enlightenment then I'm sorry but that is not what I want to sign up too. Christians shouldn't go around claiming their God is all powerful if that God doesn't seem to do anything that would quantify it's power. All I want is to see this God in action, just like he's described from the bible.

It has not, but the rest I will not share in open forum.
Sending you a PM.

Nick
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All I want is to see this God in action

I have been saved more than 40+ years, and the power of God in my life has been there from day one. Oh, yes there were years when It did not seem like my prayers were ever going to be answered, but that was OK, because I did not look at the things seen in the physical world as myself having any lack in anything. I saw myself healed, and prosperous, and doing the will of God by "faith" even when it was not true in the physical world. My wife was diagnosed as being "manic depressive" and for decades that has been a battle not only for her, but for my entire family, and yet the Lord healed her of that after believing for years. As for being prosperous I have always believed the Lord had already given me a home for my family to live in after the Lord takes me from this earth. The power of God has recently given me more than $380,000.00 to purchase a new home for cash, and a brand spanking new car too!!!! (I am not talking about borrowing money, I mean money just given to me with no strings attached) One payment, none of those payment plans!! That will diffidently add a little skip to your walk. What about all the others days where things did not look so well? I always looked at the things not seen by faith, and I could careless about what my physical eyes were telling me as this world is changeable by faith if we believe. The Lord has always been faithful to me even in the darkness of times. What did the Lord require of me? To simply have faith in Him, and in his Word!!!!
 
What love, I have not noticed any love, just doubt, unbelief, and complaining.
I complain about a God who's a no show, it has no bearing on my capacity for love. Why would anyone need a God to show them how to care for others, you don't need a God to do that.
 
I have been saved more than 40+ years, and the power of God in my life has been there from day one. Oh, yes there were years when It did not seem like my prayers were ever going to be answered, but that was OK, because I did not look at the things seen in the physical world as myself having any lack in anything. I saw myself healed, and prosperous, and doing the will of God by "faith" even when it was not true in the physical world. My wife was diagnosed as being "manic depressive" and for decades that has been a battle not only for her, but for my entire family, and yet the Lord healed her of that after believing for years. As for being prosperous I have always believed the Lord had already given me a home for my family to live in after the Lord takes me from this earth. The power of God has recently given me more than $380,000.00 to purchase a new home for cash, and a brand spanking new car too!!!! (I am not talking about borrowing money, I mean money just given to me with no strings attached) One payment, none of those payment plans!! That will diffidently add a little skip to your walk. What about all the others days where things did not look so well? I always looked at the things not seen by faith, and I could careless about what my physical eyes were telling me as this world is changeable by faith if we believe. The Lord has always been faithful to me even in the darkness of times. What did the Lord require of me? To simply have faith in Him, and in his Word!!!!
This is not what I am meaning, have a look at Gods powers in action in the bible.
 
This is not what I am meaning, have a look at Gods powers in action in the bible.
You, mean seeing a blind man see? Yep, seen that!! A gay person becoming straight? Yep seen that!! A person transform from a child of the Devil, to a child of God? Seen that many many times. A poor person having all of their needs met? Seen that many times. A sick person becoming healed? Many many times!! A person who could not walk, walk? A few times. A person wanting to kill them self, refraining and turning to God? Yep!!! A manic depressed person having a peaceful mind? Seen that in my own home. Where there was no way, a way was made? My whole life I have witnessed that!!! I have seen the power of God not only in my own life, but in the life's of other believers who trust in God for every thing!!!!

All of these are by the power of God!!!!
 
You, mean seeing a blind man see? Yep, seen that!! A gay person becoming straight? Yep seen that!! A person transform from a child of the Devil, to a child of God? Seen that many many times. A poor person having all of their needs met? Seen that many times. A sick person becoming healed? Many many times!! A person who could not walk, walk? A few times. A person wanting to kill them self, refraining and turning to God? Yep!!! A manic depressed person having a peaceful mind? Seen that in my own home. Where there was no way, a way was made? My whole life I have witnessed that!!! I have seen the power of God not only in my own life, but in the life's of other believers who trust in God for every thing!!!!

All of these are by the power of God!!!!
You've seen circumstance and chance effect people normally, then you fit those occurrences with your brand of God.

Faith and belief is a powerful remedy for many ills. I am curing myself by having faith in myself, the same way you described.

But the difference between me and the general Christian, is most Christians are not having a fun time with their growth.
 
This is not what I am meaning, have a look at Gods powers in action in the bible.
Matt 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away.
 
Hey, I thought we couldn't do anything of ourselves, that God draws all men to himself.
God does, but He also put the devil with us. He wants us to choose whom we will serve.

Josh 24:15 But if serving the Lord seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.
 
Matt 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away.
You're using a comment that was used for a group of people 2000 years ago. You really shouldn't use the bible that way.
 
God does, but He also put the devil with us. He wants us to choose whom we will serve.

Josh 24:15 But if serving the Lord seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.
Is your God talking to me personally here?
 
@roguesoul

If you ask the Lord and are seeking the truth, He will reveal Himself to you.

He is the only way, the only truth and the only life.

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