Abortion

[TheTruthReaper]

You approached me on 'conversation' area and then dropped the subject there, why?

I am thinking on the lines of...
" I just answered your question you put forth to me. "

 

[Sue D.]

You've never answered anything and 'this' is simply you playing around.

 

[TheTruthReaper]

You've never answered anything and 'this' is simply you playing around.

Here you are again giving your opinion as if it was a proven fact.
And to think you think I am very opinionated?

 

[Sue D.]

Enjoy your day.

 

[TheTruthReaper]

Enjoy your day.

This is the day that my God has made for me and I shall rejoice in Him in it.

 

[Brother-Paul]

Greetings All

For one thing -- a baby leaves the mother's body one way or another. It Can't stay inside of the mother. So -- it Will be born along with the sack of water that it's been in. Young women -- Any woman who aborts her child -- they do not loose their salvation nor are they doomed to hell as a result Of.

Until a person is able to recognize right from wrong -- he / she is under the grace of God.

I appreciate this is a reply to a conversation but I do have concerns.

God says 'I knew you before you were born' and as we know those who are saved have their names in the book of life and the lamb from the beginning.

God created man, God created woman to be a wife and helper for a man. The moment the wife conceives that is a baby created by the creator.

Now if the woman, mother of the created child, yet to be born, has an abortion, she has killed a human being, killed what God had created in her.

Will this unborn child go to heaven, we cannot be totally certain, but we do the unborn child was created by God, and was totally innocent, we cannot say sin free because sin can be passed down through many generations, four I think is quoted in The Word.

So we know the child is innocent, and at the point of abortion has been killed. Thou shalt not kill.

But what about the mother?

Again I come back to the saved, unsaved consideration I believe we should consider.

1 - the mother was a lost soul, she was in sin, she was a sinner, she killed the child in here womb, though shalt not kill is another sin added to all others she has done, said or thought. Can she be saved at a later date, if she comes to Jesus and repents yes she can, if she doesn't she will have to accept the condemnation due.

2 - the mother may be saved and has an abortion, she knows 'Thou shalt not kill' but she did so. Can she be forgiven? Yes she can, as terrible as this sounds to humans, yes she can. God accepts and forgives all sins prayed and interceded by Jesus.

God not only forgives her because she has a truly repentant heart, He also knows what was going through her mind when she had the abortion, was she suffering mental illness, was she trapped in circumstances beyond what she could bear, life isn't always black and white, God will always forgave and save a truly repentant heart

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 5:12

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 3:23

In this current day world, of I want a divorce I am fed up, I want a divorce you get on my nerves, I want a divorce I got found out, in this crazy world of try before you buy attitudes, in this hard hearted world where families are split and children have numerous parents, in this hurting world where families split up because they are financially better off apart, should we not be surprised when reading scripture like that below.

I came from a totally not believing family, which means I was an unclean child, but I was born of an unclean mother (who walked out before I was 3), I had a dad who was an unclean son, and on it goes backwards and forwards. But when I eventually accepted Jesus as my Saviour and repented of all my sins, I became the victim of a severe spiritual battle that really di almost cost me my marriage and children. Praise the Lord, thanks be to God, things eased as circumstances changed, kids leaving home and making their own lives, illness etc, Roman 8:28 was very special to me. Yes I claimed my wife's salvation, and have claimed the salvation of the kids, it is all in God's hands, God's speed, my wife is I would say, after 45 years of marriage, almost 30 years since I accepted Jesus now a babe in Christ, though she remains personal about it, and I sometimes think my knowledge makes meat uncomfortable to have on her plate.

1 Cor 7:14; For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.

One day everything will be simple and these things will not occur. Until then, we have many permutation to consider with a loving heart. For a saved man to marry a saved woman and have clean children is heaven on earth, God's will in action. But so often, and more often in these latter days the opposite is what the world is like.

Blessings

 

[th1bill]

I've studied to know my Creator God since 1/1/'90 and I know a little bit and have informed opinions about much that YHWH teaches us in His Scriptures.
Jer. 1:5
American Standard Version
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee; I have appointed thee a prophet unto the nations.

The Beastly ripping apart of the Unborn is in violation of "Thou shalt not murder." Even worse the Congress, under the direction of the evil witch, Pelosi now seeks to legalize murdering them as soon as they are separated from the mother's body. We already know the Liberal/Democrat's Media suppresses reports of Partial-Birth Abortions where the Animals suck the Brains out of the live baby before delivering that child. YHWH is not and He never will be pleased with Satanic Sacrifices of the Truly Innocent to the False god of Pleasure.

 

[Waggles]

Pelosi now seeks to legalize murdering them as soon as they are separated from the mother's body.

Infanticide was rife in all pagan and heathen civilizations. Babies were sacrificed to gods and girl babies were most often the victims.
It was Christian doctrine on the sacredness of life and that the love of God was for all that put away infanticide and child sacrifices.
Children were just as sacred as adults.
Now with the de-Christianizing of Western Christian societies and the rise of un-godly humanism we find that infanticide is back.

 

[Brad Huber]

Infanticide was rife in all pagan and heathen civilizations. Babies were sacrificed to gods and girl babies were most often the victims.
It was Christian doctrine on the sacredness of life and that the love of God was for all that put away infanticide and child sacrifices.
Children were just as sacred as adults.
Now with the de-Christianizing of Western Christian societies and the rise of un-godly humanism we find that infanticide is back.

Yes, but like most all of the liberal ideology, they dont want that label, so they made up stuff about it not being a real human being until its born AND the parents want the child. With the curtain pulled back though, perhaps some will be persuaded.

 

[Waggles]

Yes, but like most all of the liberal ideology, they dont want that label, so they made up stuff about it not being a real human being until its born AND the parents want the child. With the curtain pulled back though, perhaps some will be persuaded.

Anybody remember the Nazis and their Untermenschen racial philosophy >sub human > inferior people > this ended up in the holocaust slaughter of millions of various peoples labelled as such.
There was a generation not that long ago that went to war against such evil and called it out for the evil it was. They even put the political instigators of this on trial at Nuremburg.

And here we are again in the last days when ruling elites and their minions call evil good and good evil.
Abortion is a re-emergence of this Untermenschen philosophy that babies are subhuman > inferior . not worthy of equal rights.
How ironic it is that the moral Christian West is burning itself with a plethora of wickedness, while the previous atheistic Communist Russia is celebrating a Christian revival and upholding marriage and family life.

 

[Waggles]

Just thinking about some content that @Jimmie posted in "In the Beginning...Elohim...created....."

Then YHVH Elohim says;
"The voice of your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground” (Genesis 4:10) the Hebrew word is “damei” or “bloods” it is written in the plural. But why is this?
This is eluded to the idea (which is written in the Talmud) that “he who saves the life of one person is as if he has saved a whole nation, and he who takes a life of another, is as if he has murdered a whole nation.”
It is as if the souls of all the “would have been” descendants of Hebel were crying out for vengeance because they would not be permitted to be born.
“the voice of thy brother’s bloods cries out…” the many “bloods” cry out in “one voice” so it seems."

And this is precisely what abortion is about denying souls to become born and not only the aborted child but also any further descendants that they would have.
It truly is like Arnie Schwarzenegger as a terminator coming back to kill a child of promise so that the future would be without the contribution such a child could make in their life.

 

[The Church of Repentance]

Ermmm, my heart is troubled, if that is what God said to you, I feel you are listening to the devil or you need a spiritual hearing aid.

Every child is God's creation, starting in a woman's womb, just because the man and woman are lost souls and had sex outside marriage, doesn't mean the child in the womb is not God's creation. We are all born into sin.

Abortion is killing a child, we would not know the future of the child from birth onwards, but God does. The child may give its life to the Lord and become a great preacher, other missionary etc etc.... and become a saved Child of God through His Son.

Who is guilty for the death of the child in the woman's womb, the woman, the theatre staff who carry it out, the doctors who did the referral, clinics, nurses, etc, etc.

All are guilty of killing a child, they all have blood on their hands one way or another, they are all guilty of killing God's creation.

Thou shalt not kill.

I have read what you said and I have a question for you.

Do you believe that God created the offspring
of the fallen angels with the women of men?
Yes or no?

 

[The Church of Repentance]

When did they sin? They are not even capable of sinning. For Judas it would have been better if he had not been born. For such is the Kingdom. I take that as if he died in the whomb he would have gone to heaven.
One guy said the little rebels cry to get attention. That's their sin. Come on now. I hope his wife took care of their kids. Goodness.
Will Jesus judge babies cause they couldnt hold a milk bottle and give one of His brothers some milk? I don't believe that. Aborted babies are raised by angels. At least some plus side of the murder.

It is not about when did they sin, it is about what they will become.
A tare is a tare even when it is a seed in the ground.

 

[The Church of Repentance]

Children of the devil are

Tares even in their mothers womb. They are tares and will grow up to be tares.
I know you all will not like to hear this truth but that is just the way it is like or not.

 

[The Church of Repentance]

The bible and God's commands apply to every human being, no exceptions.

You are incorrect. There are commandments just for women that do not apply to man
and their are commandments for men that do not apply to women and their commandments
for priest that do not apply to anyone else. So on and so on.

 

[The Church of Repentance]

Abortion is nothing but murdering a child who has no say so. Its sick that society today is accepting the theory of Abortion.

The children of God never commit murder.

 

[The Church of Repentance]

This is a very important message, and very well put Chad.

We have a responsibility to share the Truth in God's Word, the world is veiled from the Truth by their sins, if we do not share the message who will?

God Bless you.

You better get busy your brethren are getting worse and worse as each day goes by.

 

[The Church of Repentance]

It's not so much What you're sharing -- but do you Really think that people want to be referred to as 'you heathen'. No.

So -- to You -- Everyone is putting on some sort of 'front'. Maybe You need to rethink your opinion of other people. Just saying.

I like to call them what Jesus called them.
Dogs, swine, vipers, serpents, devils.

 

[The Church of Repentance]

When were they born of water and Spirit?

The offspring of the children of the devil are the children of the devils.

The children of the devil do not produce children of God
As their offspring.

Devils produce devils.

 

[K9Buckeye]

The Beastly ripping apart of the Unborn is in violation of "Thou shalt not murder."

It also violates God's commandment to multiply.