Advise

[Quenton]

Did it require more than Peter just believing and speaking it into existence?

I believe Jesus told Peter to do this so Peter would have more faith i already said sometimes you have to do something. But as I also said this wasn't a job

 

[Quenton]

We are a part of the world and until the Lord returns to pull us out, we have to live in this world. We are to work and hold jobs like every other person... the Godly men of the Bible worked the fields just like all the un-Godly men... the difference though, is how we do it.

Everything the Christian does is different than the world. We may have jobs like the world has jobs, but, we have different motives for working, we have a different master we serve, we have different attitudes while we serve, and we serve through love. So you ask why God would ask us to do it in the same way, but in fact He actually tells us to do it differently.

The un-Godly architect is concerned only with making money and building fancy buildings. But I am concerned with helping people and serving God. The un-Godly CEO is concerned with making the most money and finding the most customers. The Godly CEO is concerned with helping others and serving God. Get the picture... its not what we do, but how we do it that makes us different. The Bible does not say you will know a Christian because they hold no job... no, it says you will know a Christian by their fruits. That means whatever we do in our lives on this earth, we are to do it different than the world and that is how we are separated from them.

There are some things that are inevitable to escape on this earth, and that is because we are human and we shall not truly escape until the Lord returns. Holding a job and working to provide for ourselves is just part of life. It is part of the Christian life, and the non-Christian life... the difference is though, why we work and how we work. We don't work to serve man as the world does, we work to serve God.

Look again at Ephesians 6:6. It speaks of slaves being obedient to their masters. God commands them to obey and work for their master, but He tells them that the reason they work is different, and that's what separates us from the world. The Lord says, "With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free." We are to work, but not unto man, as the world works, but unto the Lord.

The people of the world are actually the ones who have got it wrong. They think working is for money. But as Christians, we know better because of the wisdom the Lord has given us. He created us to work and commanded us to work, it is Him who gave us the ability and the necessity to work. And it is through Him, by Him, and for Him we work.

I'll have to think this over some more
Why did Jesus work?

 

[AudreyNicole]

I'll have to think this over some more
Why did Jesus work?

Jesus worked because that is what God created Him and us to do. And, as we see from the Bible, Jesus served God through serving others. That is what we are to do... serve God through working for others. In that way we help others, and supply our needs.

 

[Quenton]

Jesus worked because that is what God created Him and us to do. And, as we see from the Bible, Jesus served God through serving others. That is what we are to do... serve God through working for others. In that way we help others, and supply our needs.

scripture?

 

[SpiritLedEd]

i don't know who the berans are...

Quite frankly, Quenton, if you don't know who the Bereans were (Ac 17:10-11), I have to wonder how familiar you are with Scripture.

SLE

 

[AudreyNicole]

scripture?

I suppose that answer would depend on the specific question that you are asking. Are you asking, "Did Jesus have an occupation?"

If so, he was a carpenter:

Matthew 13:55 refers to Jesus as the carpenter's son.
Mark 6:3 refers to him as the carpenter.

What kind of carpenter work did he do? We don't know. What type of things did he build? We don't know. Where did he do his carpenter work? We assume that he did much of it in his home town, Nazareth, but that is an assumption. And it is most likely He made a bit of money doing this to support His family during His pre-ministering years. The gospels write almost exclusively about Jesus' ministry. Did he do carpenter work during the time of his ministry? No, there is no reference to his doing carpenter work during his ministry.

Jesus' real job though was to serve God by serving others. He came to this earth to serve, not to be served (Matthew 20:28)... and in everything He did during His life, He did it unto the Lord.

Lets look at some of the work he had to do on the job:

• He washed the feet of others in John 13:12-15
• He healed the sick: (Matthew 8:1-4, Matthew 9:2-8, Mark 2:3-12, Mark 3:1-7, Luke 6:6-11, John 9:1-12)
• He fed the hungry (Mark 8:1-13, Mark 6:30-44)
• He taught and gave hope (His parables in the Gospels)
• He was a judge and mediated the issues of others (John 8:1-11)

So you can see from the list that He actually had a multitude of jobs. Everything from cleaning, to being a counselor, to being a judge, to being a servant, to being a teacher, to being a minister, to being a doctor, etc. Jesus had many many Jobs, and the most important thing is that He performed them all unto the Lord.


He was called by the Lord to serve others and be the sacrifice for our sins. That was His calling... that was His job. We are called to serve others too, but we are not called to be the sacrifice for our sins... that was Jesus' job. Instead, God calls us to our own unique jobs. Jesus' unique job was to die for us; my unique job is to serve others through building houses. I know a brother who is a doctor and that is his calling to serve. My dad, like I said, is an accountant, and that is his calling from God. I know a sister that is a nurse, and she works in Healthcare for the Homeless... that is her calling from God. I also have a friend that works in daycare, she serves disabled and orphaned children... that is her calling from God. I know a brother who is a cop... he is a mediator for the issues of others... that is his calling. Your unique job may be to open a business that serves others somehow... and that is your calling from God.

We all have unique and specific callings from the Lord. And through our occupations that is how we serve God and serve others. Jesus' main job was to serve others and die for us... He also worked many other jobs though as we saw. And our main job is to serve others through our work, and God will call us to that specific work.

We are disciples who follow Jesus, who belong to Jesus, who become servants just like he did. We are not like other people--the world wants to exalt and elevate themselves by seeking authority and high position. But in our work and in our jobs, our only goal is to serve the Lord and elevate Him, just like Jesus did in His many jobs.

...whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant and whoever wants to be first must be your slave— just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many. Matthew 20:28

So, God commands us to work so that we can serve and bless others, serve Him, and serve ourselves. And Jesus is our example; as we see all the different works and jobs he performed, we can know how we are to perform in our specific calling as well. Sowhatever you do, whatever the Lord calls you to do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Colossians 3:23-24

 

[Quenton]

Quite frankly, Quenton, if you don't know who the Bereans were (Ac 17:10-11), I have to wonder how familiar you are with Scripture.

SLE

i don't think its your place to judge my knowledge of the scripture i don't yet know the names of everyperson in the bible and i dont think you would either

in fac t that statement is kind of rude how about you try to teach me some scripture or(and i don't mean this rudely) don't come into my thread. I don't want anymore of this back and forth stuff because really the bible isn't for it. So please let's not come into my thread questioning peoples knowledge. I believe the best way to teach someone is to tell them your belief and that way if the y don't know they learn and if they do know it but are wrong you plant a seed to grow

because really you could've taught me something about them instead of saying "Quenton I don't think you know much about the Bible son...really when you tell most people that it A. Bugs them, B makes them mad or C. my personal favorite makes them have ot say something that wastes their own time when you could've been benefical. And i like being benefical. since I truly don't know everything I certainly would've read some scripture. Scripture is my favorite thing to read and do.

Please try again...

thanks sir

 

[Quenton]

I suppose that answer would depend on the specific question that you are asking. Are you asking, "Did Jesus have an occupation?"

If so, he was a carpenter:

Matthew 13:55 refers to Jesus as the carpenter's son.
Mark 6:3 refers to him as the carpenter.

What kind of carpenter work did he do? We don't know. What type of things did he build? We don't know. Where did he do his carpenter work? We assume that he did much of it in his home town, Nazareth, but that is an assumption. And it is most likely He made a bit of money doing this to support His family during His pre-ministering years. The gospels write almost exclusively about Jesus' ministry. Did he do carpenter work during the time of his ministry? No, there is no reference to his doing carpenter work during his ministry.

Jesus' real job though was to serve God by serving others. He came to this earth to serve, not to be served (Matthew 20:28)... and in everything He did during His life, He did it unto the Lord.

Lets look at some of the work he had to do on the job:

• He washed the feet of others in John 13:12-15
• He healed the sick: (Matthew 8:1-4, Matthew 9:2-8, Mark 2:3-12, Mark 3:1-7, Luke 6:6-11, John 9:1-12)
• He fed the hungry (Mark 8:1-13, Mark 6:30-44)
• He taught and gave hope (His parables in the Gospels)
• He was a judge and mediated the issues of others (John 8:1-11)

So you can see from the list that He actually had a multitude of jobs. Everything from cleaning, to being a counselor, to being a judge, to being a servant, to being a teacher, to being a minister, to being a doctor, etc. Jesus had many many Jobs, and the most important thing is that He performed them all unto the Lord.


He was called by the Lord to serve others and be the sacrifice for our sins. That was His calling... that was His job. We are called to serve others too, but we are not called to be the sacrifice for our sins... that was Jesus' job. Instead, God calls us to our own unique jobs. Jesus' unique job was to die for us; my unique job is to serve others through building houses. I know a brother who is a doctor and that is his calling to serve. My dad, like I said, is an accountant, and that is his calling from God. I know a sister that is a nurse, and she works in Healthcare for the Homeless... that is her calling from God. I also have a friend that works in daycare, she serves disabled and orphaned children... that is her calling from God. I know a brother who is a cop... he is a mediator for the issues of others... that is his calling. Your unique job may be to open a business that serves others somehow... and that is your calling from God.

We all have unique and specific callings from the Lord. And through our occupations that is how we serve God and serve others. Jesus' main job was to serve others and die for us... He also worked many other jobs though as we saw. And our main job is to serve others through our work, and God will call us to that specific work.

We are disciples who follow Jesus, who belong to Jesus, who become servants just like he did. We are not like other people--the world wants to exalt and elevate themselves by seeking authority and high position. But in our work and in our jobs, our only goal is to serve the Lord and elevate Him, just like Jesus did in His many jobs.

...whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant and whoever wants to be first must be your slave— just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many. Matthew 20:28

So, God commands us to work so that we can serve and bless others, serve Him, and serve ourselves. And Jesus is our example; as we see all the different works and jobs he performed, we can know how we are to perform in our specific calling as well. Sowhatever you do, whatever the Lord calls you to do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Colossians 3:23-24

just a wee bit confused are yo usaying that what Jesus did was a job?

 

[jiggyfly]

i don't think its your place to judge my knowledge of the scripture i don't yet know the names of everyperson in the bible and i dont think you would either

in fac t that statement is kind of rude how about you try to teach me some scripture or(and i don't mean this rudely) don't come into my thread. I don't want anymore of this back and forth stuff because really the bible isn't for it. So please let's not come into my thread questioning peoples knowledge. I believe the best way to teach someone is to tell them your belief and that way if the y don't know they learn and if they do know it but are wrong you plant a seed to grow

because really you could've taught me something about them instead of saying "Quenton I don't think you know much about the Bible son...really when you tell most people that it A. Bugs them, B makes them mad or C. my personal favorite makes them have ot say something that wastes their own time when you could've been benefical. And i like being benefical. since I truly don't know everything I certainly would've read some scripture. Scripture is my favorite thing to read and do.

Please try again...

thanks sir

Quenton it is a moderator's duty to visit the threads and insure that everyone is behaving.

 

[jiggyfly]

I'm living with a guy who doesn't believe in financial believing and just not sure how to go about it..i can't really pray in a normal tone even in my room without him hearing me. So i thought i'd ask for some advise. thansk everyone

QUenton

Why not just move out or ask him to move out?

 

[Quenton]

Quenton it is a moderator's duty to visit the threads and insure that everyone is behaving.

it should also be the mods responsibility to help the thread the are investigating

 

[Quenton]

Why not just move out or ask him to move out?

because i would have no whereto live and he's the owner..i could ask for the other one to move on than i'd getmy own room and it would be private but i think he may have stolen my wallet so until i ge tthat back thats not a good idea

 

[AudreyNicole]

just a wee bit confused are yo usaying that what Jesus did was a job?

Yep, it was His job. A job that included a lot of various tasks.

Here is a definition of the word job as it applies to Jesus:
anything a person is expected or obliged to do; duty; responsibility.

It was Christ's duty and obligation to come to the earth, serve people, serve the Lord, and die for our sins. That was His purpose, that was His duty, that was His job.

Here's His job description: Luke 4:17-21 17
The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written: "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor." Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him, and he began by saying to them, "Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."

 

[SpiritLedEd]

So please let's not come into my thread questioning peoples knowledge.

"my thread"? Where did you get the idea that you own the threads you start?

SLE

 

[Quenton]

"my thread"? Where did you get the idea that you own the threads you start?

SLE

the same way i can say when i own a house it's mine is the same way i can say it here do i really own anything no...but again why did you ask this sillyness? PP

 

[s.i.e.]

"my thread"? Where did you get the idea that you own the threads you start?

SLE

SLE: as a moderator, I would ask you to consider moving this thread to "lounge", "teen hangout", or "trivia", as it is clearly not originated by someone seeking counseling, or interested in help. You can find the backup for those statements by reading through this thread. I appreciate your consideration.
-s.i.e.

 

[Quenton]

SLE: as a moderator, I would ask you to consider moving this thread to "lounge", "teen hangout", or "trivia", as it is clearly not originated by someone seeking counseling, or interested in help. You can find the backup for those statements by reading through this thread. I appreciate your consideration.
-s.i.e.

i did post my situation so clearly this statement isn't needed

 

[s.i.e.]

No Quenton, you didn't.

I'm sorry you lost your wallet. That is a bummer and a problem, but that is not your situation. Anyways, you know that no solution to that circumstance can be fixed or solved here in this thread.

Be that as it may, being that your entire mode of operation throughout this thread continues to ask/demand/beg for people to use scriptures in whatever they say to you...perhaps you should be honest, and ask the moderator/administrator to move "your thread" to the "Scriptural Bible Answers" section. Perhaps someone might be able to locate your wallet (which you believe is your situation) through the use of scripture in that forum?

SLE: per Quenton's comment...I would ask you to consider moving this threa to "Scriptural Bible Answers" instead of Counseling. Quenton's correct...that would be a better fit based on his m.o. here.

 

[Quenton]

No Quenton, you didn't.

I'm sorry you lost your wallet. That is a bummer and a problem, but that is not your situation. Anyways, you know that no solution to that circumstance can be fixed or solved here in this thread.

Be that as it may, being that your entire mode of operation throughout this thread continues to ask/demand/beg for people to use scriptures in whatever they say to you...perhaps you should be honest, and ask the moderator/administrator to move "your thread" to the "Scriptural Bible Answers" section. Perhaps someone might be able to locate your wallet (which you believe is your situation) through the use of scripture in that forum?

SLE: per Quenton's comment...I would ask you to consider moving this threa to "Scriptural Bible Answers" instead of Counseling. Quenton's correct...that would be a better fit based on his m.o. here.

no that was just to let me people knwo that i was hurting my situation is still my roomate

 

[s.i.e.]

no that was just to let me people knwo that i was hurting my situation is still my roomate

I'm sorry your hurting Quenton. I can't imagine having to deal with that, and that is a serious bummer...no doubt.

I don't believe your problem is your roomate...but you see it that way as of now, so, fine. Start there.


Even so, when I look under the "Counseling" forum and I see a thread called "Advise"....and all you say you need is "scripture?", "get off my thread unless or until you give me scripture", "leave my thread, or give me scripture", "you are of the world", "having a job is wordly...why should I take that demonic advice and get a job".....or whatever (and yes, I paraphrase)....then clearly your entire m.o. is wanting scriptural advice on either your wallet, your roomate, your job questions, or whatever....

So, honestly, it's annoying and confusing to the forum community to see this thread develop as it has under the premise of "Counseling"...and it should rightly be categorized under something else.

For the respect of the community, I would ask that you move it out of "Counseling", because even you have said this is not what you seek.