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Are you saying if you don't like what the bible says just reinterpret it?
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Are you saying if you don't like what the bible says just reinterpret it?
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John Gill commentary on II Thessalonians 2: 3, the man of sin:
"And that man of sin be revealed; who was now hid, though secretly working; by whom is meant not only any particular person or individual; not the devil, for though he is the wicked one, a damned spirit, an opposer, an adversary of God and Christ, and his people, and who has affected deity, and sought to be worshipped, and even by Christ himself; yet the man of sin is here distinguished from Satan........so here it intends the whole hierarchy of Rome, monks, friars, priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals, and especially popes, who may well be called "the man of sin", because notoriously sinful; not only sinners, but sin itself, a sink of sin, monsters of iniquity, spiritual wickednesses in high places: it is not easy to reckon up their impieties, their adulteries, incest, sodomy, rapine, murder, avarice, simony, perjury, lying, necromancy, familiarity with the devil, idolatry, witchcraft, and what not? and not only have they been guilty of the most notorious crimes themselves, but have been the patrons and encouragers of others in sin; by dispensing with the laws of God and man, by making sins to be venial, by granting indulgences and pardon for the worst of crimes, by licensing brothel houses, and countenancing all manner of wickedness; and therefore it is no wonder to hear of the following epithet."
John Gill's commentary represents protestant views of scripture before the tradition of man called dispenstionalism or Christian Zionism began in the 1830's. Though Gill does not always agree with John Calvin, in general, his interpretations do reflect Christian thought in the period of his life, from 1697 to 1771. Gill disagrees with Calvin, for example, on Romans 11: 26 - "all Israel shall be saved" - where Gill says of physical Israel that "they as a body, even the far greater part of them that shall be in being, shall return and seek the Lord their God."
John Calvin says of Romans 11: 26 "Paul intended here to set forth the completion of the kingdom of Christ, which is by no means to be confined to the Jews, but is to include the whole world. The same manner of speaking we find in Galatians 6:16. The Israel of God is what he calls the Church, gathered alike from Jews and Gentiles; and he sets the people, thus collected from their dispersion, in opposition to the carnal children of Abraham, who had departed from his faith."
Gill says that the man of sin in II Thessalonians 2: 3 is not a single individual but it refers to the whole hierarchy of Roman Catholicism. And, in one way he is right, that Paul's prophecy here could have had one fulfillment in Roman Catholicism, when it became the anthropos tes amartias, the "man of sin,"
and fell away from the truth. But toward the end time there is another "man of sin" and another falling away, among the protestant Church. Paul gives us glimpses of this apostate church, for example, in II Timothy 3: 4-5, 7-8. The people of the apostate church have a form of godliness but deny its power, are not able to come to the knowledge of the truth. and resist the truth. This prophecy is being fulfilled now as the falling away gains momentum and the "man of sin" was revealed some decades ago.
This is a departure from the topic of the U.S. in Bible prophecy, and stepping outside the usual compartmentalized approach. But "hermeneutics," from the pagan god Hermes, the
messenger from Zeus, is important in interpreting Bible prophecy. If Bible prophecy, for example, in Daniel 7: 4 and Revelation 13: 2, is not interpreted to mean that the Lion empire is post-Cross and is England and the Eagle's Wings on it are the U.S., then the U.S. is not seen very clearly in Bible prophecy. But we know from history that it is important.
"And that man of sin be revealed; who was now hid, though secretly working; by whom is meant not only any particular person or individual; not the devil, for though he is the wicked one, a damned spirit, an opposer, an adversary of God and Christ, and his people, and who has affected deity, and sought to be worshipped, and even by Christ himself; yet the man of sin is here distinguished from Satan........so here it intends the whole hierarchy of Rome, monks, friars, priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals, and especially popes, who may well be called "the man of sin", because notoriously sinful; not only sinners, but sin itself, a sink of sin, monsters of iniquity, spiritual wickednesses in high places: it is not easy to reckon up their impieties, their adulteries, incest, sodomy, rapine, murder, avarice, simony, perjury, lying, necromancy, familiarity with the devil, idolatry, witchcraft, and what not? and not only have they been guilty of the most notorious crimes themselves, but have been the patrons and encouragers of others in sin; by dispensing with the laws of God and man, by making sins to be venial, by granting indulgences and pardon for the worst of crimes, by licensing brothel houses, and countenancing all manner of wickedness; and therefore it is no wonder to hear of the following epithet."
John Gill's commentary represents protestant views of scripture before the tradition of man called dispenstionalism or Christian Zionism began in the 1830's. Though Gill does not always agree with John Calvin, in general, his interpretations do reflect Christian thought in the period of his life, from 1697 to 1771. Gill disagrees with Calvin, for example, on Romans 11: 26 - "all Israel shall be saved" - where Gill says of physical Israel that "they as a body, even the far greater part of them that shall be in being, shall return and seek the Lord their God."
John Calvin says of Romans 11: 26 "Paul intended here to set forth the completion of the kingdom of Christ, which is by no means to be confined to the Jews, but is to include the whole world. The same manner of speaking we find in Galatians 6:16. The Israel of God is what he calls the Church, gathered alike from Jews and Gentiles; and he sets the people, thus collected from their dispersion, in opposition to the carnal children of Abraham, who had departed from his faith."
Gill says that the man of sin in II Thessalonians 2: 3 is not a single individual but it refers to the whole hierarchy of Roman Catholicism. And, in one way he is right, that Paul's prophecy here could have had one fulfillment in Roman Catholicism, when it became the anthropos tes amartias, the "man of sin,"
and fell away from the truth. But toward the end time there is another "man of sin" and another falling away, among the protestant Church. Paul gives us glimpses of this apostate church, for example, in II Timothy 3: 4-5, 7-8. The people of the apostate church have a form of godliness but deny its power, are not able to come to the knowledge of the truth. and resist the truth. This prophecy is being fulfilled now as the falling away gains momentum and the "man of sin" was revealed some decades ago.
This is a departure from the topic of the U.S. in Bible prophecy, and stepping outside the usual compartmentalized approach. But "hermeneutics," from the pagan god Hermes, the
messenger from Zeus, is important in interpreting Bible prophecy. If Bible prophecy, for example, in Daniel 7: 4 and Revelation 13: 2, is not interpreted to mean that the Lion empire is post-Cross and is England and the Eagle's Wings on it are the U.S., then the U.S. is not seen very clearly in Bible prophecy. But we know from history that it is important.
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America will come from the end of the earth and take the women and children of Israel to safety during the day of the Lord when the fire falls and the heavens are darkened over Israel. (6th seal)
Isaiah 5:24-30
24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
25 Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly:
27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken:
28 Whose arrows are sharp, and all their bows bent, their horses' hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:
29 Their roaring shall be like a lion, they shall roar like young lions: yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry it away safe, and none shall deliver it.
30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.
Isaiah 5:24-30
24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
25 Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly:
27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken:
28 Whose arrows are sharp, and all their bows bent, their horses' hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:
29 Their roaring shall be like a lion, they shall roar like young lions: yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry it away safe, and none shall deliver it.
30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.
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Sorry, but most of that's simply just not true.
God is Who formed the nations and the nations will exist even into His eternity as written in His Word. The nations that refuse to serve Him will utterly perish though. That won't include many of the peoples of the western Christian nations and their commonwealth nations, because they are His people. Even at the end of Zechariah 14 after Christ's return, and in Revelation 20, the nations are still existing upon the earth. One must live in a dream castle to think they will no longer exist after Christ's second coming.
Gen 17:6
6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
(KJV)
Ps 22:27-28
27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
28 For the kingdom is the LORD's: and He is the governor among the nations.
(KJV)
Ps 82:8
8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
(KJV)
Ps 86:9
9 All nations whom Thou hast made shall come and worship before Thee, O Lord; and shall glorify Thy name.
(KJV)
Isa 2:2
2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
(KJV)
Acts 17:25-27
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
(KJV)
Rev 2:26-28
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28 And I will give him the morning star.
(KJV)
Rev 15:4
4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
(KJV)
Rev 21:23-24
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
(KJV)
Rev 22:2
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
(KJV)
Then on the 7th Trumpet sounding when Jesus returns we are especially shown this about the kingdoms of this world...
Rev 11:15
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.
(KJV)
When Jacob told his son Joseph that the seed of Joseph's son Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations", that prophecy was from God Himself passed down through Abraham, Isaac, and then to Jacob. In Genesis 35 Jacob was told by God that out of his seed would come "a nation, and a company of nations."
Gen 35:10-11
10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
11 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;
(KJV)
So I don't know where the hate-the-nations mentality is coming from today, but it's not from God in His Word of Truth.
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The no more sea pointer is a mystery in God's Word which not many are aware of, even though the subject is covered in several other Scriptures in God's Word. The way you present it I don't think you really know what it means. It has to do with earth changes, I can tell you that much. God's Kingdom time is... His Eternity time, when our Lord Jesus will deliver up The Kingdom to The Father, per 1 Cor.15:23-28. And that will continue forever and ever. Israel will remain a nation before Him even forever, as He said in Jeremiah 31 and elsewhere in His Word.
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Some are just stuck on the idea of eagle's wings as a wicked symbol, when God even pointed to Himself as a great eagle with His wings bearing His people (Deut.32:10-12; Exodus 19:4). In Isaiah 40:31, God says those of His that wait on Him will mount up with wings as eagles. In Rev.12 the symbolic "woman" (His people) are given two wings as a great eagle to fly into the wilderness. In Ezek.17:7-9, the "another great eagle" is referring to the house of David with Zedekiah king of Judah.
The 1st beast of Dan.7 was Babylon, and the eagle represented king Nebuchadnezzar to whom God gave the dream in the Book of Daniel, but for Daniel to interpret. The 2nd beast was the kingdom of Persians and Medes. The 3rd was Alexander's Greece. The 4th was the Roman Empire, meaning the 'pagan' Roman Empire, not Catholicism.
Yet all those Dan.7 symbols must be weighed with what was revealed back at the start of Neb's dream in Dan.2 & 3. In those previous Daniel chapters 5 pieces of the beast image statue is shown, 1-head of gold (Babylon), 2-breast and arms of silver (Medo-Persia), 3-belly and thighs of brass (Grecia), 4-legs of iron (Roman empire), 5-feet of clay mixed with iron (New World Order).
Then Daniel 2:34-35 reveals a Stone not cut with hands, put for Christ, will smite that beast statue upon its feet of ten toes mixed with clay and iron, and the WHOLE statue "together"... will come falling down. So when is that for? For Christ's second coming, which is still future to us today.
How could the whole statue fall "together" when our Lord Jesus returns like it says? By that God has revealed that ALL... the previous beast kingdoms of history will be revived under the final 5th one of feet of iron mixed with clay. And the statue has the heaviest materials on top, like the head of fine gold, meaning the statue is top heavy and will easily topple when Christ comes to smite it upon its feet.
This is why our Lord Jesus linked the Rev.13:1-2 beast of ten horns for the very end of this world with this Daniel prophecy, but only looking at Daniel 7 is not enough, simply because that beast kingdom idea is one of the main subjects that flows throughout the whole Book of Daniel.
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Sorry, but "hermeneutics" is not the key to understanding prophecy in God's Word. The Holy Spirit is The Key. Man can devise principles of study all life long and still not come to a proper understanding in God's Word. God gives it to whom He will, it's not up to man. A good question should be, "how do we prepare ourselves for our Heavenly Father to give us that understanding?" Through Faith on Him and His Son first and foremost, then by asking for the blessing of The Holy Spirit to teach us all things like Jesus promised for those who believe on Him. And then through disciplined Bible study, Book by Book, chapter by chapter, line by line, precept upon precept. And just in case some are not aware, The Holy Spirit will teach us truths about God's creation and the universe that even scientists have sought to know and understand.
Concerning the Antichrist prophecy, the early Church fathers understood it, and that was when Rome was still pagan. Irenaus and Hippolytus, both disciples from Apostle John, taught the coming Antichrist is indeed... a certain individual, a king even, and that he is to build a final temple in Jerusalem and sit in it proclaiming himself as God, working great signs and miracles. The "man of sin" and "antichrist" applied only to many peoples in general was for political usage against the Roman Church by the early Protestants. To them in their days, they thought Rome was the seat of the Antichrist because of how they were being persecuted by the Roman Church.
If the Roman Catholic Church in America got total power over all Christian Churches in America today, Protestant Americans would think the same kind of things the early Protestants did with it being the Antichrist, all the while the actual Bible prophecy about the coming Antichrist is that he is to come to power in Jerusalem, not in Rome, nor New York, etc.
Isaiah 34 says God will destroy all nations, that includes all the western and commonwealth ones too:
Isaiah 34:
1 Come near, you nations, and listen; pay attention, you peoples! Let the earth hear, and all that is in it, the world, and all that comes out of it! 2 The LORD is angry with all nations; his wrath is upon all their armies. He will totally destroy them, he will give them over to slaughter.
Nations were necessary to fulfill God's purpose, and because of mankind's fall and sinfulness, then God authorized human nations to rule over us. But in the new heaven and new earth there will not be any human governments. They are all replaced by God's kingdom. Human governments were not God's overall eternal plan.
You have obviously been deceived by the anti-Christ and babylonian thinking that human governments and nations will be still existing for eternity. So when the anti-Christ comes to rule the western nations, you will think it is Christ himself.
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1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.
2 Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side.
3 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles.
4 Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins.
5 Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over.
6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river.
7 Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.
8 Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed.
9 And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.
10 And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many.
11 But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be healed; they shall be given to salt.
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.
13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; This shall be the border, whereby ye shall inherit the land according to the twelve tribes of Israel: Joseph shall have two portions.
14 And ye shall inherit it, one as well as another: concerning the which I lifted up mine hand to give it unto your fathers: and this land shall fall unto you for inheritance.
15 And this shall be the border of the land toward the north side, from the great sea, the way of Hethlon, as men go to Zedad;
16 Hamath, Berothah, Sibraim, which is between the border of Damascus and the border of Hamath; Hazarhatticon, which is by the coast of Hauran.
17 And the border from the sea shall be Hazarenan, the border of Damascus, and the north northward, and the border of Hamath. And this is the north side.
18 And the east side ye shall measure from Hauran, and from Damascus, and from Gilead, and from the land of Israel by Jordan, from the border unto the east sea. And this is the east side.
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The sea signifies God's judgement, (e.g. Noah), the sea is also the place where the demons live. No more sea means no more judgement and no more demons. Even today, God sometimes uses the sea to judge - hurricanes, tsunamis, floods etc.
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Sea means oceans in this instance. There will be no more seas in the eternal earth.
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The no more seas prophecy is for God's Eternity, after the finish of Christ's future "thousand years" reign, and after the "lake of fire" event. The wicked will not see that latter time.
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You need to pay closer attention to what's actually written there, for He is talking about the destruction of their armies, not all nations. The reason that is about their armies is because on the last day of this world Satan's host on earth are going to gather their armies to go up against God's Israel per Ezekiel 38 & 39.
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The no more sea Revelation prophecy will be literal, and will come to pass literally as written; same with no more death. Imagine a time upon this earth when its surface is no longer covered over 70% with water, and where nothing dies. It's pointing to a different creation state than the one for today.
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But back to the subject of America in The Bible...
When the ten tribes of Israel could no longer be contained in the lands of Assyria and Medes because of being so many people, they formed their own region in Assyria, and then began to trek around the Black Sea, through the Dariel pass the people in that region call "the pass of Israel" per their legends (see the article "The Pass of Israel" by Colonel R.G. Pearce, in The National Message, Oct.23, 1937, p.636). The pass went through the Caucasus mountain range around the Black Sea and into eastern Europe, their passing through it to become known as Caucasians (where that word originated). The first Celtic artifacts found in Austria was around 500 B.C., even though secular history falsely tries to place the ancient Celts much father back in time in ancient Europe. God had removed the ten tribes captive to Assyria by 700 B.C., so their trek westward into eastern Europe was after that.
Proof of the ten tribes in captivity to ancient Assyria:
These are links to the Behistun Rock pretroglyphs and inscriptions king Darius had carved on a mountain side that exists in northern Iraq. The captives of ten tribal chieftans with their hands and necks bound, one behind the other, are clearly of a Caucasian people.
The "Earliest" Depiction of the 10-Lost-Tribe Chiefs: the Behistun Inscription - ca 515 BCE - Yehweh Not Yahweh
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The tribal chieftans on the Behistun Rock are mentioned in the inscriptions as Gimiri and Sakka peoples (Celtic and Scythian). Their Caucasian origin is obvious on the Behistun carving. The pointed hat of the last chieftan is a characteristic Hebrew icon, the same kind of hat Jehu king of Israel is shown wearing on the Jehu Stele in the British Museum in London.
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"The lands occupied by Celtic peoples, whose existence can be traced over more than 25 centuries, were vast. Celts occupied land in modern day Eastern Europe, Greece, Spain, Northern Italy, Western Europe, England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland. The Celtic people have mystified the anthropologists and historians for generations. They were a non literate culture whose history and literature was preserved through oral tradition. The only written records of their civilization are the texts left by classical authors, the first of which appear circa 500 BCE. These accounts, innacurate as they may be, are important that they demonstrate that the Celts came into cultural contact, and sometimes competition, with the Greeks as well as the Romans." (from Celtic Europe)
That writer first says the Celts can be traced back 2500 years, when says their culture only appears circa 500 BC when they came into contact with the Greeks and Romans. That's kind of like talking out of both sides of one's mouth at the same time. Since the Greeks and Romans were already established in the lands, wouldn't they be aware of when a different people with a different culture like the Celts first appeared among them? Yes, they would know, which is why the Greek and Romans writers only began writing about the Celts around 500 B.C., simply because the Celtic migrations only by then came to where those Greeks and Romans already were. What that writer at watson.org is revealing is a bias supplied by those confused anthropologists and historians he mentions. They have tried to insert their own history about the origin of the Celtic peoples.
The reality is though, that these Celtic peoples only began trekking into western Europe around that time of 500 B.C., plenty of time for the ten tribes to have been taken into captivity to Assyria, assimulate there into a great too many people to be contained in one area like Assyria and the lands of the Medes, and then their passing through the Caucasus mountains around the Black Sea into eastern Europe, and then further into Western Europe by 500 B.C.
I dare say that plenty enough of those biased anthropologists well know, because of being told countless times by Bible historians, that the Assyrian captivity of the ten tribes of Israel had a part in the sudden appearance of these Celtic peoples into Europe at the time when the Greek and Roman writers first began writing about them around 500 B.C., because that's when they began showing up in those areas of Western Europe.
When the ten tribes of Israel could no longer be contained in the lands of Assyria and Medes because of being so many people, they formed their own region in Assyria, and then began to trek around the Black Sea, through the Dariel pass the people in that region call "the pass of Israel" per their legends (see the article "The Pass of Israel" by Colonel R.G. Pearce, in The National Message, Oct.23, 1937, p.636). The pass went through the Caucasus mountain range around the Black Sea and into eastern Europe, their passing through it to become known as Caucasians (where that word originated). The first Celtic artifacts found in Austria was around 500 B.C., even though secular history falsely tries to place the ancient Celts much father back in time in ancient Europe. God had removed the ten tribes captive to Assyria by 700 B.C., so their trek westward into eastern Europe was after that.
Proof of the ten tribes in captivity to ancient Assyria:
These are links to the Behistun Rock pretroglyphs and inscriptions king Darius had carved on a mountain side that exists in northern Iraq. The captives of ten tribal chieftans with their hands and necks bound, one behind the other, are clearly of a Caucasian people.
The "Earliest" Depiction of the 10-Lost-Tribe Chiefs: the Behistun Inscription - ca 515 BCE - Yehweh Not Yahweh
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The tribal chieftans on the Behistun Rock are mentioned in the inscriptions as Gimiri and Sakka peoples (Celtic and Scythian). Their Caucasian origin is obvious on the Behistun carving. The pointed hat of the last chieftan is a characteristic Hebrew icon, the same kind of hat Jehu king of Israel is shown wearing on the Jehu Stele in the British Museum in London.
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"The lands occupied by Celtic peoples, whose existence can be traced over more than 25 centuries, were vast. Celts occupied land in modern day Eastern Europe, Greece, Spain, Northern Italy, Western Europe, England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland. The Celtic people have mystified the anthropologists and historians for generations. They were a non literate culture whose history and literature was preserved through oral tradition. The only written records of their civilization are the texts left by classical authors, the first of which appear circa 500 BCE. These accounts, innacurate as they may be, are important that they demonstrate that the Celts came into cultural contact, and sometimes competition, with the Greeks as well as the Romans." (from Celtic Europe)
That writer first says the Celts can be traced back 2500 years, when says their culture only appears circa 500 BC when they came into contact with the Greeks and Romans. That's kind of like talking out of both sides of one's mouth at the same time. Since the Greeks and Romans were already established in the lands, wouldn't they be aware of when a different people with a different culture like the Celts first appeared among them? Yes, they would know, which is why the Greek and Romans writers only began writing about the Celts around 500 B.C., simply because the Celtic migrations only by then came to where those Greeks and Romans already were. What that writer at watson.org is revealing is a bias supplied by those confused anthropologists and historians he mentions. They have tried to insert their own history about the origin of the Celtic peoples.
The reality is though, that these Celtic peoples only began trekking into western Europe around that time of 500 B.C., plenty of time for the ten tribes to have been taken into captivity to Assyria, assimulate there into a great too many people to be contained in one area like Assyria and the lands of the Medes, and then their passing through the Caucasus mountains around the Black Sea into eastern Europe, and then further into Western Europe by 500 B.C.
I dare say that plenty enough of those biased anthropologists well know, because of being told countless times by Bible historians, that the Assyrian captivity of the ten tribes of Israel had a part in the sudden appearance of these Celtic peoples into Europe at the time when the Greek and Roman writers first began writing about them around 500 B.C., because that's when they began showing up in those areas of Western Europe.
Not only their armies:
Dan 2:44 "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
Christ's kingdom will crush all other kingdoms, so that only Christ's kingdom will rule the earth.
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Some end time prophecies could not be understood till people and countries moved into position.
Daniel:8-10
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Ezekiel 38:10-13
10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
Russia and her allies will come to take a spoil in Israel? What spoil? Now we know that Israel has vast gas and shale oil reserves. Who would have guessed that Saudi Arabia and Israel would be allies?
America is one of the colonies of Tarshish called a young lion. That could not be understood till America exited.
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Read Rev.11:15-18 again, and Rev.20 about the nations, and end of Zech.14 which specifically names the nation of Egypt, and end of Isaiah 19:23-25.
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You are still getting it wrong. Tarshish was an area at the southern pennisula of what's now called Spain. It was an ancient center of the Phoenicians associated in trade with ancient Tyre. It does not represent America.
In the above Ezek.38:13 Scripture, those of Sheba, Dedan, and Tarshish are asking the 'spoiler' if he is come to take spoils from them, which means what? It means those areas are subjected to the spoiler's aims along with Israel.
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Per God's Birthright first given to Abraham, then to his son Isaac, then to his son Jacob whom God renamed Israel, the Birthright then went to Jacob's son Joseph and then to Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh, where it still is today.
God made Ephraim the head tribe over the ten tribes in the northern kingdom of Israel after Solomon's days. And Ephraim's seed was to become "a multitude of nations" per the Gen.48 prophecy given to him from God through Jacob (Israel).
The ten tribes were then taken captive to Assyria and the land of the Medes by God's hand because of their falling away to Baal worship. There in those lands they lost their heritage and identity as part of Israel. The house of Judah at Jerusalem remained and became known as Jews, and did not lose their identity as the other part of Israel.
Thus Israel has always been two nations apart since that split of 1 Kings 11 forward. The missing link to the identity of the ten tribes after their scattering has been discovered in the Assyrian tablets, and translated to show they were the Cimmerian and Scythian tribes that migrated into eastern and western Europe becoming known mainly by the Celtic peoples which established those nations in Europe.
The peoples from those European nations were the founders of the 13 colonies that became the United States of America. This is why there's many symbols in the U.S. and the European nations to show heritage of Israel.
God made Ephraim the head tribe over the ten tribes in the northern kingdom of Israel after Solomon's days. And Ephraim's seed was to become "a multitude of nations" per the Gen.48 prophecy given to him from God through Jacob (Israel).
The ten tribes were then taken captive to Assyria and the land of the Medes by God's hand because of their falling away to Baal worship. There in those lands they lost their heritage and identity as part of Israel. The house of Judah at Jerusalem remained and became known as Jews, and did not lose their identity as the other part of Israel.
Thus Israel has always been two nations apart since that split of 1 Kings 11 forward. The missing link to the identity of the ten tribes after their scattering has been discovered in the Assyrian tablets, and translated to show they were the Cimmerian and Scythian tribes that migrated into eastern and western Europe becoming known mainly by the Celtic peoples which established those nations in Europe.
The peoples from those European nations were the founders of the 13 colonies that became the United States of America. This is why there's many symbols in the U.S. and the European nations to show heritage of Israel.
