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SignUp Now!>first of all the church are those people that have accepted christ as their lord and saviour.
We agree here.
>secondly there is nothing in the bible of any denominations.
We agree here also.
>they were brought about to cause devision and they have done so.
I'll differ with you here. They were not brought about for the reason of division. That happened as a consequence of differing beliefs. The main one being that Martin Luther taught that salvation is a free gift of God and received only by grace through faith in Jesus as redeemer from sin, not from good works. His theology challenged the authority of the pope of the Roman Catholic Church.
>churche is a business in todays america.
To a certain extent, I agree with you here. It is unfortunetly true. But I think you would agree with me that it takes money today to run a church. From the electricity used, to a rented facility used for a camp-retreat for the churches' youth group. And yes staff are paid also. I believe in balance here too.
i know what a lot of our ex presidents have stated. but since you brought up history. show me where
we are to be prejudice, what was slavory about.
Slavery was about money. period..
Here's what George Washington felt about it 220 years ago:
I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of slavery.
It has taken time for slavery to fade into the background. It is an ugly blemish on America. There are other countries still participating in such abhorant practices today, especially child sex trafficing. Here in the United States though, groups and individuals lead the way to see such practice's stopped all together.
>at what point did money beome the power over this country above christ?
Try to keep in mind that money is a tool in any persons hands. For good or evil.
With money we clothe the naked, feed the poor, heal the sick. ..build hospitals and go to Disneyland.
With the love of money; turf is gained and blood is spilled, lives are ruined, and riches are gained.
Money is not evil in and of itself, but it can lead to ruin when wisdom is ignored.
Or save a country from starvation having just been wiped out by a tsunami. 1 Tim 6:10
i am willing to say that 80 to 85% of the churches in this nation are more about how to be popular than they are about giving people the truth written in the bible. ya know i went to a church dinner i was invited to and there was a young teenage man and a young teenage girl hanging all over each other. i talked with the young man about being a good spiritual leader and keeping from opening doors with that young girl. he states oh we are dating. since when has us dating made it alright to be physical with each other? where is this in the word.
I understand your concern here. I have similar concerns for young men around me also. There is no commandment about not touching. If you take personal offense to their lack of sensitivity of those around them, I can understand that as well.
You want the best for their future and wish they would look down the road to the unintended consequences they may face as a result of their actions. As well as being conservative in a public place or around others. The best counsel I recieved on this issue and still pass on is: to hold off becoming romantic with each other as long as possible. Once you cross that line, it's extremely difficult to go back to "friends". And the one thing which is certain to keep you pure with each other, is to value your relationship with the Holy Spirit and His voice, more than your relationship with your sweety. ' If ya think not talking to her for a couple days is hard, try that with HIM.
Guilt is such a condeming rival to any relationship.
>here is another one, people always talking about they are ministering to people. but what they call ministering is promoting a church name. this is what is called sharing christ in the states these days. whatever makes a church popular. or what makes us popular. or it is taught that what we do for the church building is salvation. none of these things are written about in the bible. and if it popular in the world it is 100% not popular with god.
Yup. I believe I understand you here also.
Some of my thoughts on your comments:
Great reply to my questions. I hope I've made myself more clear also.
God bless you with wisdom and discernment,
LoJ
there are infact statements made by paul that state that a man should not touch a woman period. many take this only in the sexual form.
but if we are touching a women we are allowing them to feel emotional and that leading to some very dangerous ground. both for the woman and for the man.
This is truly chilling. It turns my stomach to see believers make so much of party and what congressman said what and Rush Limbaugh says x,y,z when there is this sort of polemic going on. I'm told that there are Muslims who take shifts praying continously for the downfall of America and particularly American Christians. Can we afford to do any less? Thanks for this post.
Can't we all get together and love and serve that part of the world?
Can't we figure out how to bring them to life, instead of being angry?
Can't we stop their behavioral patterns by acting like Jesus Christ did when they came for him?
Why can't we?
Why?
Why?
It may be the former military in me, but what i got out of that film was this:
The man was giving so much information of actions and locations of groups who want to do things to the usa.
If i were the FBI, i am sure i could watch this presentation and get some good information ..
This guy in the presentation is actually persuading others to do his dirty work...and in the hearts of the dammed are the works of satan,,,against God who will destroy them with the word of our GodJesus our Christ.
Remember..what will happen will happen for it is God's will.
As Christains. we will not be here for the outcome of this evil that is boiling in the east.
Peace to Isreal...and blessing to all of you who read this site. Just remember...you put the words of our God into your hearts. and you will be set free from the likes of these people..as we know the truth, and it shall set you free.
alleybear.
Good day! (and let your hearts not be troubled).
