BAD Samaritan stops BAD guy

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Gun owners, activists react to Indiana ‘Good Samaritan’ who stopped mall shooter

The Indiana man praised for quickly ending the rampage of a mass shooter was breaking mall rules Sunday when he entered the building with a firearm.

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Some of you may be aware of the situation in Indiana(USA) where a civilian with a gun killed another civilian who was in the process of a mass-shooting.

Very few doubt that without the intervention of the civilian with the hand gun, the shooter with an AR-15 style rifle would have killed many more. He is called a hero and a good Samaritan. I think he is indeed a hero, but not a good Samaritan. Here's why.

In the State of Indiana, no permit is required to carry a conceal weapon, however businesses are able to restrict guns on their property. Such was the case at the mall where the shooting happened. The mall prohibited firearms, even though the state allows one to carry without a permit.

The short end of it, is that the "good Samaritan" was actually breaking the rules by having his gun in the mall. And one who breaks the rules is not being a good neighbor, but a bad neighbor. And if he is willing to break that rule, what other rules is he willing to break?

So the mass shooter with the AR-15 was in the wrong for trying to take life, but the civilian who stopped him was also in the wrong for breaking the rules which prohibited guns on their property. He indeed was a hero and he undoubtedly saved the day, but title should be bad guy stops bad guy, because both were breaking the rules.

Not proving a point but just highlighting the complexity of these issues.

Please share your thoughts, your opinion is valued @B-A-C @Fragrant Grace @GodB4Us , @PloughBoy , @Dave M , @Andyindauk , @Christ4Ever , @God's Truth @Waggles , @MedicBravo

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Gun owners, activists react to Indiana ‘Good Samaritan’ who stopped mall shooter

The Indiana man praised for quickly ending the rampage of a mass shooter was breaking mall rules Sunday when he entered the building with a firearm.

www.google.com

Some of you may be aware of the situation in Indiana(USA) where a civilian with a gun killed another civilian who was in the process of a mass-shooting.

Very few doubt that without the intervention of the civilian with the hand gun, the shooter with an AR-15 style rifle would have killed many more. He is called a hero and a good Samaritan. I think he is indeed a hero, but not a good Samaritan. Here's why.

In the State of Indiana, no permit is required to carry a conceal weapon, however businesses are able to restrict guns on their property. Such was the case at the mall where the shooting happened. The mall prohibited firearms, even though the state allows one to carry without a permit.

The short end of it, is that the "good Samaritan" was actually breaking the rules by having his gun in the mall. And one who breaks the rules is not being a good neighbor, but a bad neighbor. And if he is willing to break that rule, what other rules is he willing to break?

So the mass shooter with the AR-15 was in the wrong for trying to take life, but the civilian who stopped him was also in the wrong for breaking the rules which prohibited guns on their property. He indeed was a hero and he undoubtedly saved the day, but title should be bad guy stops bad guy, because both were breaking the rules.

Not proving a point but just highlighting the complexity of these issues.

Please share your thoughts, your opinion is valued @B-A-C @Fragrant Grace @GodB4Us , @PloughBoy , @Dave M , @Andyindauk , @Christ4Ever , @God's Truth @Waggles , @MedicBravo

Put another way, if the "good Samaritan " had encountered police before all of this happened. He could easily have been arrested for having a gun on the property, and we would all see him as a "bad guy" who was breaking the rules and bringing a gun into a mall where it is not allowed. The news headlines easily could have read "Bad guy brings gun to mall, arrested"; similar to how guns are not allowed in schools. -- All of this further illustrates the point of "bad guy[Samaritan]" stops bad guy. Showing the complexity of these issues and how it is not as simple as some may make it.

 

[PloughBoy]

Put another way, if the "good Samaritan " had encountered police before all of this happened. He could easily have been arrested for having a gun on the property, and we would all see him as a "bad guy" who was breaking the rules and bringing a gun into a mall where it is not allowed. The news headlines easily could have read "Bad guy brings gun to mall, arrested"; similar to how guns are not allowed in schools. -- All of this further illustrates the point of "bad guy[Samaritan]" stops bad guy. Showing the complexity of these issues and how it is not as simple as some may make it.

A thought, Jesus said; there is none good none good no not one.
But man aways rewrite the bible according his thoughts, may I say this in great humility “Christianity” it seems always rewrite the book and make it’s Authority greater than GOD’s! Words With explanations.

There in GOD’s Word There is no such thing as a”Good Samaritan even mention.

But Christianity has superseded GOD’s word and rewritten The Book That mankind think there is such a character in GOD’s Word!

“The TRUTh” has fallen down in The Streets and man it seems has prevailed.

By conveying a thought other than the intented thought of “Holy Scripture” The Mark of GOD was miss and now we fall into error, by “Missing The Mark” of GOD.

So you see, The Label is way off track,

“May we do evil that good May occur”?

 

[Andyindauk]

Gun owners, activists react to Indiana ‘Good Samaritan’ who stopped mall shooter

The Indiana man praised for quickly ending the rampage of a mass shooter was breaking mall rules Sunday when he entered the building with a firearm.

www.google.com

Some of you may be aware of the situation in Indiana(USA) where a civilian with a gun killed another civilian who was in the process of a mass-shooting.

Very few doubt that without the intervention of the civilian with the hand gun, the shooter with an AR-15 style rifle would have killed many more. He is called a hero and a good Samaritan. I think he is indeed a hero, but not a good Samaritan. Here's why.

In the State of Indiana, no permit is required to carry a conceal weapon, however businesses are able to restrict guns on their property. Such was the case at the mall where the shooting happened. The mall prohibited firearms, even though the state allows one to carry without a permit.

The short end of it, is that the "good Samaritan" was actually breaking the rules by having his gun in the mall. And one who breaks the rules is not being a good neighbor, but a bad neighbor. And if he is willing to break that rule, what other rules is he willing to break?

So the mass shooter with the AR-15 was in the wrong for trying to take life, but the civilian who stopped him was also in the wrong for breaking the rules which prohibited guns on their property. He indeed was a hero and he undoubtedly saved the day, but title should be bad guy stops bad guy, because both were breaking the rules.

Not proving a point but just highlighting the complexity of these issues.

Please share your thoughts, your opinion is valued @B-A-C @Fragrant Grace @GodB4Us , @PloughBoy , @Dave M , @Andyindauk , @Christ4Ever , @God's Truth @Waggles , @MedicBravo

Hi guys. My intervention in this thread wasn't really pro gun or anti gun, but rather as an English man I was expressing incredulity at the difference between the two contrasting cultures either side of the pond on this subject. In the UK our very strict gun laws are widely supported and I get the impression that in the US lax gun laws also carry high levels of support though not by any means universal. My incredulity is how that majority maintains their position even in the face of huge numbers of victims of gun deaths and in particular mass shootings.

From what I can see thanks to the religious programmes on satellite TV, the church in the USA is also quite muted on this subject. I was listening to a sermon by Jentezen Franklin recently and he was berating the Church for being silent on issues of abortion and gay marriage but didn't mention gun control, even though the sermon was delivered a few days after the Uvalde school shootings.

On the article of The Good Samaritan, I do like the way that the media is unwittingly propagating the gospel using phrases like 'blind leading the blind', 'going the extra mile' and in this instance the Good Samaritan; though I can see little resemblance in the article and Luke 10:25-37 in which a man goes to extraordinary lengths to care for and look after an enemy in distress. Had the Samaritan gone after the man's robbers and shot them, then there would be greater similarity.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

A thought, Jesus said; there is none good none good no not one.

You speak the truth here.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

On the article of The Good Samaritan, I do like the way that the media is unwittingly propagating the gospel using phrases like 'blind leading the blind',

Well said, all things working for good, for those who love the Lord.

 

[PloughBoy]

Hi guys. My intervention in this thread wasn't really pro gun or anti gun, but rather as an English man I was expressing incredulity at the difference between the two contrasting cultures either side of the pond on this subject. In the UK our very strict gun laws are widely supported and I get the impression that in the US lax gun laws also carry high levels of support though not by any means universal. My incredulity is how that majority maintains their position even in the face of huge numbers of victims of gun deaths and in particular mass shootings.

From what I can see thanks to the religious programmes on satellite TV, the church in the USA is also quite muted on this subject. I was listening to a sermon by Jentezen Franklin recently and he was berating the Church for being silent on issues of abortion and gay marriage but didn't mention gun control, even though the sermon was delivered a few days after the Uvalde school shootings.

On the article of The Good Samaritan, I do like the way that the media is unwittingly propagating the gospel using phrases like 'blind leading the blind', 'going the extra mile' and in this instance the Good Samaritan; though I can see little resemblance in the article and Luke 10:25-37 in which a man goes to extraordinary lengths to care for and look after an enemy in distress. Had the Samaritan gone after the man's robbers and shot them, then there would be greater similarity.

You alright,
He would have went after the robbers and shot them.

 

[PloughBoy]

And some people with “Guns” cannot wait to shoot somebody! They get in front of A mirror and practice “Quick Draw”!

The USA is The land of “Wild Bill Hickok” and “Wyatt Earp”!

The U S A is a big country with a lot of kind of People! One of our states is lot bigger that many foreign countries!
We got 50!

And Texas, still got cowboys, carrying six shooters for Rattlesnake and riding horse back!

 

[GodB4Us]

Gun owners, activists react to Indiana ‘Good Samaritan’ who stopped mall shooter

The Indiana man praised for quickly ending the rampage of a mass shooter was breaking mall rules Sunday when he entered the building with a firearm.

www.google.com

Some of you may be aware of the situation in Indiana(USA) where a civilian with a gun killed another civilian who was in the process of a mass-shooting.

Very few doubt that without the intervention of the civilian with the hand gun, the shooter with an AR-15 style rifle would have killed many more. He is called a hero and a good Samaritan. I think he is indeed a hero, but not a good Samaritan. Here's why.

In the State of Indiana, no permit is required to carry a conceal weapon, however businesses are able to restrict guns on their property. Such was the case at the mall where the shooting happened. The mall prohibited firearms, even though the state allows one to carry without a permit.

The short end of it, is that the "good Samaritan" was actually breaking the rules by having his gun in the mall. And one who breaks the rules is not being a good neighbor, but a bad neighbor. And if he is willing to break that rule, what other rules is he willing to break?

So the mass shooter with the AR-15 was in the wrong for trying to take life, but the civilian who stopped him was also in the wrong for breaking the rules which prohibited guns on their property. He indeed was a hero and he undoubtedly saved the day, but title should be bad guy stops bad guy, because both were breaking the rules.

Not proving a point but just highlighting the complexity of these issues.

Please share your thoughts, your opinion is valued @B-A-C @Fragrant Grace @GodB4Us , @PloughBoy , @Dave M , @Andyindauk , @Christ4Ever , @God's Truth @Waggles , @MedicBravo

And...

Put another way, if the "good Samaritan " had encountered police before all of this happened. He could easily have been arrested for having a gun on the property, and we would all see him as a "bad guy" who was breaking the rules and bringing a gun into a mall where it is not allowed. The news headlines easily could have read "Bad guy brings gun to mall, arrested"; similar to how guns are not allowed in schools. -- All of this further illustrates the point of "bad guy[Samaritan]" stops bad guy. Showing the complexity of these issues and how it is not as simple as some may make it.

It does go to the question, why wasn't the guy arrested anyway for having a gun on the premise for stopping the bad guy?

Maybe the businesses did not restrict guns on their properties at the mall? Maybe it was their choice not to have that restriction?

 

[GodB4Us]

A thought, Jesus said; there is none good none good no not one.
But man aways rewrite the bible according his thoughts, may I say this in great humility “Christianity” it seems always rewrite the book and make it’s Authority greater than GOD’s! Words With explanations.

There in GOD’s Word There is no such thing as a”Good Samaritan even mention.

But Christianity has superseded GOD’s word and rewritten The Book That mankind think there is such a character in GOD’s Word!

“The TRUTh” has fallen down in The Streets and man it seems has prevailed.

By conveying a thought other than the intented thought of “Holy Scripture” The Mark of GOD was miss and now we fall into error, by “Missing The Mark” of GOD.

So you see, The Label is way off track,

“May we do evil that good May occur”?

And @Jesus_is_LORD

Government are allowed to go to war in using the sword to deter evil.

Government can allow citizens to use guns for self defense to deter evil in that way too.

Back in the wild west, would you carry a gun? I would think a rifle for hunting but a pistol? Maybe at the homestead, but not for travelling. Course, the rifle would be in a holster on the horse and not carrying with me in any public places.

But if someone happens upon you with a pistol to rob you... and if a local, more likely to shoot and kill you so you do not testify against him, maybe I would carry a pistol to act as a deterrence.

If people call me chicken or yellow in daring me to a gun fight, I would say they are correct for I would be afraid of the Lord to kill any one when I do not have to.

But all that is just talk. I would not really know what I would do or say if I was back then.

I know that now.. I do not own a gun nor care to, but I would be very angry of any invader(s) in my home. I pray I would never catch him or them. I believe because of all the offenses I have suffered, that would be the last straw. Besides, Jesus warned against suffering a thief to break through which I applied as referring to receiving spirits thinking they are the Holy Spirit when the real indwelling Holy Spirit has been in believers since salvation when we had first believed the gospel. But somehow, I see the same sentiments in not suffering a thief or an invader in my home, even if they are armed. Yep. The Lord knows that is a temptation I am unwilling to bear or suffer even if it means my death. I'd be that mad.

 

[GodB4Us]

Hi guys. My intervention in this thread wasn't really pro gun or anti gun, but rather as an English man I was expressing incredulity at the difference between the two contrasting cultures either side of the pond on this subject. In the UK our very strict gun laws are widely supported and I get the impression that in the US lax gun laws also carry high levels of support though not by any means universal. My incredulity is how that majority maintains their position even in the face of huge numbers of victims of gun deaths and in particular mass shootings.

From what I can see thanks to the religious programmes on satellite TV, the church in the USA is also quite muted on this subject. I was listening to a sermon by Jentezen Franklin recently and he was berating the Church for being silent on issues of abortion and gay marriage but didn't mention gun control, even though the sermon was delivered a few days after the Uvalde school shootings.

On the article of The Good Samaritan, I do like the way that the media is unwittingly propagating the gospel using phrases like 'blind leading the blind', 'going the extra mile' and in this instance the Good Samaritan; though I can see little resemblance in the article and Luke 10:25-37 in which a man goes to extraordinary lengths to care for and look after an enemy in distress. Had the Samaritan gone after the man's robbers and shot them, then there would be greater similarity.

I hope this authoritarian rule to kill armless citizens does not happen in your beloved country. Although the below video is done in humor, its report on history about how banning guns do not mean peace and safety for every one.

Also @Jesus_is_LORD & @PloughBoy & @MedicBravo & @B-A-C & @Fragrant Grace & @Dave M & @God's Truth & @Waggles & @Christ4Ever You may want to watch this video as well.

 

[PloughBoy]

And @Jesus_is_LORD

Government are allowed to go to war in using the sword to deter evil.

Government can allow citizens to use guns for self defense to deter evil in that way too.

Back in the wild west, would you carry a gun? I would think a rifle for hunting but a pistol? Maybe at the homestead, but not for travelling. Course, the rifle would be in a holster on the horse and not carrying with me in any public places.

But if someone happens upon you with a pistol to rob you... and if a local, more likely to shoot and kill you so you do not testify against him, maybe I would carry a pistol to act as a deterrence.

If people call me chicken or yellow in daring me to a gun fight, I would say they are correct for I would be afraid of the Lord to kill any one when I do not have to.

But all that is just talk. I would not really know what I would do or say if I was back then.

I know that now.. I do not own a gun nor care to, but I would be very angry of any invader(s) in my home. I pray I would never catch him or them. I believe because of all the offenses I have suffered, that would be the last straw. Besides, Jesus warned against suffering a thief to break through which I applied as referring to receiving spirits thinking they are the Holy Spirit when the real indwelling Holy Spirit has been in believers since salvation when we had first believed the gospel. But somehow, I see the same sentiments in not suffering a thief or an invader in my home, even if they are armed. Yep. The Lord knows that is a temptation I am unwilling to bear or suffer even if it means my death. I'd be that mad.

I did not say I am against guns nor any type of hint in that direction.

But one thing I do know. The Bible teaches,That “The Adversary” is “The Prince the god of this world. And “The Creator of This world have given him The Power to rule it and all the systems here lies in his power. For it was given to him by “GOD” and people and many Christian’s do not believe the “TRUTH” of GOD but went andEstablish Their Own idea of A “god” of Their own creation created in their own minds. And it has been so very hard to except The TRUTH of His Word.

This is the World and The World will do as it’s own and “Jesus came to take us away to a place of our own and this is not Jesus kingdom and not his government. But “God” has given this “Authoritative power” To “The Perfect Created “Adversary” created by Jesus Who is The Word of GOD that took on “Flesh” and walked among His own “Creation” “ “Emmanuel“
And these are the words and The Thoughts written in The Very Text of The Living GOD. And not the thoughts of living man but the thoughts of GOD that all His children may see.

The world will be the world and act like the world should act,

The Whole world and everything in it is “Corrupted” and corruption will act corrupted. So we are the children that cannot be deceive, because The Word of GOD is our Lamp as we walk in this world.

If anyone think they can improve this world they need to stop reading other books and pickup a KJV or A-earlier “RSV” or “ASV” and close the door of their home and Saturate themselves into The TRUTH of GOD’s Word and turn not to the right or The Left. That the only thing rings in their souls is The WORD and not The Interpretation thoughts of another man.

 

[PloughBoy]

NASB 1977
“I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me

King James Bible
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

King James Bible
And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.


For man go with all their strength to place The Ways of GOD to be the same ways their “Finite” thoughts religious ways are to be. Not Knowing or want to believe that their righteous thoughts are as “Filthy rags”. Compared to The Righteous Ways of GOD.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

And...

It does go to the question, why wasn't the guy arrested anyway for having a gun on the premise for stopping the bad guy?

Maybe the businesses did not restrict guns on their properties at the mall? Maybe it was their choice not to have that restriction?

Well actually, he was taken in handcuffs to the police station for "questioning"
and was said to be "compiling with the investigation".

So he was detained for a moment. How far that will go, I don't know.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

I hope this authoritarian rule to kill armless citizens does not happen in your beloved country. Although the below video is done in humor, its report on history about how banning guns do not mean peace and safety for every one.

Also @Jesus_is_LORD & @PloughBoy & @MedicBravo & @B-A-C & @Fragrant Grace & @Dave M & @God's Truth & @Waggles & @Christ4Ever You may want to watch this video as well.

 

[PloughBoy]

New International Version
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.


NASB 1977
We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

But yet many will use their own biblical interpretive ways to explain “GOD’s TRUTH” away, because “men Love Darkness rather than Light”

They Love it That way.

Even are ways of Corrections have been Polluted and Tainted by the works of our very hand.
Their is only “One Way” out. “The Deliverer”!

Do anyone remember years ago, The Christian motto: “we are going to win the World for Jesus Christ and make the world a better place”

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Gun owners, activists react to Indiana ‘Good Samaritan’ who stopped mall shooter

The Indiana man praised for quickly ending the rampage of a mass shooter was breaking mall rules Sunday when he entered the building with a firearm.

www.google.com

Some of you may be aware of the situation in Indiana(USA) where a civilian with a gun killed another civilian who was in the process of a mass-shooting.

Very few doubt that without the intervention of the civilian with the hand gun, the shooter with an AR-15 style rifle would have killed many more. He is called a hero and a good Samaritan. I think he is indeed a hero, but not a good Samaritan. Here's why.

In the State of Indiana, no permit is required to carry a conceal weapon, however businesses are able to restrict guns on their property. Such was the case at the mall where the shooting happened. The mall prohibited firearms, even though the state allows one to carry without a permit.

The short end of it, is that the "good Samaritan" was actually breaking the rules by having his gun in the mall. And one who breaks the rules is not being a good neighbor, but a bad neighbor. And if he is willing to break that rule, what other rules is he willing to break?

So the mass shooter with the AR-15 was in the wrong for trying to take life, but the civilian who stopped him was also in the wrong for breaking the rules which prohibited guns on their property. He indeed was a hero and he undoubtedly saved the day, but title should be bad guy stops bad guy, because both were breaking the rules.

Not proving a point but just highlighting the complexity of these issues.

Please share your thoughts, your opinion is valued @B-A-C @Fragrant Grace @GodB4Us , @PloughBoy , @Dave M , @Andyindauk , @Christ4Ever , @God's Truth @Waggles , @MedicBravo

And just when you KNOW IT CAN'T GET MORE RIDICULOUS - it does.

Of course here in Texas after the Uvalde fiasco, they've been bawling about the "Official lack of action", which probably killed some kids that didn't HAVE to die if the cops had done their jobs (over 400 of 'em).

As I recall, the person who actually took out the gunman, was a Border Patrol officer, who just went into the school, and offed the shooter after (getting Wounded in the process) while 400+ policemen stood around with their thumbs up their posteriors doing nothing.

But it seems that the one brave Border Patrol Officer, who actually did what 400 confused, and cowardly cops couldn't, has completely disappeared from any of the news casts, as though he never even existed.

I wonder why that is?????

 

[GodB4Us]

And just when you KNOW IT CAN'T GET MORE RIDICULOUS - it does.

Of course here in Texas after the Uvalde fiasco, they've been bawling about the "Official lack of action", which probably killed some kids that didn't HAVE to die if the cops had done their jobs (over 400 of 'em).

As I recall, the person who actually took out the gunman, was a Border Patrol officer, who just went into the school, and offed the shooter after (getting Wounded in the process) while 400+ policemen stood around with their thumbs up their posteriors doing nothing.

But it seems that the one brave Border Patrol Officer, who actually did what 400 confused, and cowardly cops couldn't, has completely disappeared from any of the news casts, as though he never even existed.

I wonder why that is?????

When you have so many regulations that it confuses common sense on what to do in keeping your job, I can see that happening, especially after having done drills for that occasion. Makes you wonder what they had drilled into those 400 officers with, huh?

 

[GodB4Us]

Well actually, he was taken in handcuffs to the police station for "questioning"
and was said to be "compiling with the investigation".

So he was detained for a moment. How far that will go, I don't know.

One thing that crosses my mind if I was in his position would be the risk of interfering in police business. It is inflammatory for any one to be arrested for that reason but I can see that happening in this current world we live in.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

I hope this authoritarian rule to kill armless citizens does not happen in your beloved country. Although the below video is done in humor, its report on history about how banning guns do not mean peace and safety for every one.

Also @Jesus_is_LORD & @PloughBoy & @MedicBravo & @B-A-C & @Fragrant Grace & @Dave M & @God's Truth & @Waggles & @Christ4Ever You may want to watch this video as well.

Definitely funny and gets you thinking.