BAD Samaritan stops BAD guy

[Jesus_is_LORD]

One thing that crosses my mind if I was in his position would be the risk of interfering in police business. It is inflammatory for any one to be arrested for that reason but I can see that happening in this current world we live in.

I definitely see that as well.

 

[MedicBravo]

I hope this authoritarian rule to kill armless citizens does not happen in your beloved country. Although the below video is done in humor, its report on history about how banning guns do not mean peace and safety for every one.

Also @Jesus_is_LORD & @PloughBoy & @MedicBravo & @B-A-C & @Fragrant Grace & @Dave M & @God's Truth & @Waggles & @Christ4Ever You may want to watch this video as well.

I've got some history to remind you and everyone else.

• Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and Kahn killed more people and the latter enough to lower the Earth's temp a few degrees. Their ideals....communism/socialism is what led to the population being disarmed. You know what a government will do when the population is disarmed? ANYTHING it wants
• God has called on Christians to use violence and "tools" to put an end to and severely limit evil throughout history. Yes, the optimal choice of action is non-violence but look at the past 30 years of human history.
• Cain has a rock and chose to do evil out of jealousy and anger. David had a rock and chose to do good in the face of evil. The tool isn't the problem. Evil hearts and minds without God are the problem.
• Pro or against either way, most of the civilized world on any level is only there because of some group that protects it from others.
• Don't like them, then get behind someone who does or willingly get yourself killed. Make sure to tell everyone you know you'll do nothing should something evil comes you way with an intent to kill.

There's an agenda going on and many don't see it. George Soros is one big cause of it. Funded Antifa and Burn Loot Murder.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

I've got some history to remind you and everyone else.

• Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and Kahn killed more people and the latter enough to lower the Earth's temp a few degrees. Their ideals....communism/socialism is what led to the population being disarmed. You know what a government will do when the population is disarmed? ANYTHING it wants
• God has called on Christians to use violence and "tools" to put an end to and severely limit evil throughout history. Yes, the optimal choice of action is non-violence but look at the past 30 years of human history.
• Cain has a rock and chose to do evil out of jealousy and anger. David had a rock and chose to do good in the face of evil. The tool isn't the problem. Evil hearts and minds without God are the problem.
• Pro or against either way, most of the civilized world on any level is only there because of some group that protects it from others.
• Don't like them, then get behind someone who does or willingly get yourself killed. Make sure to tell everyone you know you'll do nothing should something evil comes you way with an intent to kill.

There's an agenda going on and many don't see it. George Soros is one big cause of it. Funded Antifa and Burn Loot Murder.

@MedicBravo , thanks for the contribution to the thread.
You stated "

• God has called on Christians to use violence and "tools" to put an end to and severely limit evil throughout history. Yes, the optimal choice of action is non-violence but look at the past 30 years of human history.

In light of your statement which I have highlighted above in green. How would you respond to what @PloughBoy has stated below?
Do you agree with what he is staying?

The world will be the world and act like the world should act,

The Whole world and everything in it is “Corrupted” and corruption will act corrupted. So we are the children that cannot be deceive, because The Word of GOD is our Lamp as we walk in this world.

If anyone think they can improve this world they need to stop reading other books and pickup a KJV or A-earlier “RSV” or “ASV” and close the door of their home and Saturate themselves into The TRUTH of GOD’s Word and turn not to the right or The Left. That the only thing rings in their souls is The WORD and not The Interpretation thoughts of another man.

I'm engaging you two in dialogue, as you are stating that we have a mandate from God to go and "fix" the world, and use violence if needed.
And @PloughBoy is stating that we are not to get caught up in the world's affairs, and God's Kingdom is not off this world.

So I would like to listen to you both engage in the points I have mentioned. Thanks.

 

[God's Truth]

Read what Peter says about God having people to govern and punish wrongdoers.

1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.



Read this scripture:

Romans 13:4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.


Paul is speaking to believers. Paul is telling believers that if they do wrong, then they should expect to be punished by the sword, and that it is right for them to be put to death by our government.

Romans 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God.

Romans 13:6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing.

 

[God's Truth]

When John the baptizer was baptizing, he baptized some soldiers. The soldiers asked John what they should do. John did not tell them to stop being soldiers because it was a sin. He told them to not extort money, and do not accuse people falsely. This shows us that it is not wrong to be a soldier and defend oneself, one’s people, one’s city, and one’s country.

Luke 3:14 Then some soldiers asked him, “And what should we do?” He replied, “Don’t extort money and don’t accuse people falsely–be content with your pay.”

Read these scriptures:

Matthew 8:8 The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9 For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.

Jesus did not tell the centurion to stop having soldiers and that it was a sin. Jesus healed the man’s soldier.

 

[God's Truth]

Gun owners, activists react to Indiana ‘Good Samaritan’ who stopped mall shooter

The Indiana man praised for quickly ending the rampage of a mass shooter was breaking mall rules Sunday when he entered the building with a firearm.

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Some of you may be aware of the situation in Indiana(USA) where a civilian with a gun killed another civilian who was in the process of a mass-shooting.

Very few doubt that without the intervention of the civilian with the hand gun, the shooter with an AR-15 style rifle would have killed many more. He is called a hero and a good Samaritan. I think he is indeed a hero, but not a good Samaritan. Here's why.

In the State of Indiana, no permit is required to carry a conceal weapon, however businesses are able to restrict guns on their property. Such was the case at the mall where the shooting happened. The mall prohibited firearms, even though the state allows one to carry without a permit.

The short end of it, is that the "good Samaritan" was actually breaking the rules by having his gun in the mall. And one who breaks the rules is not being a good neighbor, but a bad neighbor. And if he is willing to break that rule, what other rules is he willing to break?

It is a tricky situation,but remember too, that the Samaritans in the Bible were the people who did not always do right, but was one used in a parable that helped one in need.

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.


It is strange that the man who shot the mass shooter was called a Samaritan in the first place.

So the mass shooter with the AR-15 was in the wrong for trying to take life, but the civilian who stopped him was also in the wrong for breaking the rules which prohibited guns on their property. He indeed was a hero and he undoubtedly saved the day, but title should be bad guy stops bad guy, because both were breaking the rules.

Not proving a point but just highlighting the complexity of these issues.

Please share your thoughts, your opinion is valued @B-A-C @Fragrant Grace @GodB4Us , @PloughBoy , @Dave M , @Andyindauk , @Christ4Ever , @God's Truth @Waggles , @MedicBravo

I am surprised there isn't more talk on the news about the one they are calling a Samaritan. We don't really know much about him, or at least I haven't heard much. I am suspicious about some things, like I already mentioned, such as why did they call him a Samaritan, and, did he have a criminal record.
Thanks for calling me to this thread and wanting my thoughts about this situation.

 

[God's Truth]

A thought, Jesus said; there is none good none good no not one.

You have a misunderstanding about what Jesus was teaching, for Jesus tells us of good men.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

It is a tricky situation,but remember too, that the Samaritans in the Bible were the people who did not always do right, but was one used in a parable that helped one in need.

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.


It is strange that the man who shot the mass shooter was called a Samaritan in the first place.


I am surprised there isn't more talk on the news about the one they are calling a Samaritan. We don't really know much about him, or at least I haven't heard much. I am suspicious about some things, like I already mentioned, such as why did they call him a Samaritan, and, did he have a criminal record.
Thanks for calling me to this thread and wanting my thoughts about this situation.

Thanks for sharing @God's Truth , your contribution is appreciated.
I believe they call people "Good Samaritan" because the world doesn't fully understand the Bible.

Now to your point about:

"""It is a tricky situation,but remember too, that the Samaritans in the Bible were the people who did not always do right,
but was one used in a parable that helped one in need."""

I would respectfully share a different conclusion if I may?
Now, I believe the point of the story which Jesus told, had nothing or very little,
to do with whether the Samaritans did right or wrong. I think it more related
to the relationship that the Jews had towards the Samaritans. They saw them as a group
that they did not associate with.

So this story was told by Jesus, when asked, "well who is my neighbor" [If the greatest commandment is love your neighbor].
So Jesus tells this story and ask, "Who was a neighbor to the man who fell on hard times?"
And the answer was obviously the Samaritan was a "good neighbor".

Therefore the point being, not so much about the Samaritans being good or bad people, but your neighbor
is not just the people in your social class, your racial ethnic group, etc, etc. The Samaritans didn't associated
with the Jews, and Jesus used this story to show that being a neighbor as a Christian means loving "all" people,
not only those in your group, just like this Samaritan (who likely did not receive good treatment from the Jews) showed
compassion on him, when all of his fellow Jewish citizens did not.

But I suspect that those Jewish individuals, the priest, the Levi, etc, who passed the wounded man, probably thought
to themselves, "I'm a good Jew. I tithe, I keep the law. I fast" etc. But they weren't showing love to others outside
of their group. I think that is the point of the story, not necessarily to state that the Samaritans were bad people (just people of distance relations to the Jews).

Hence the Bible tells us that he ask this question ("who is my neighbor?") in order to justify himself.
Meaning, he thought he was doing good enough, and the main point was "no", you are not doing
good enough, you need to share that love with "all people" who come across your path.

 

[PloughBoy]

You have a misunderstanding about what Jesus was teaching, for Jesus tells us of good men.

So sad, so sad people treats the simplicity of Jesus Christ as rubbish and garbage.

 

[God's Truth]

Thanks for sharing @God's Truth , your contribution is appreciated.
I believe they call people "Good Samaritan" because the world doesn't fully understand the Bible.

That is for sure.

Now to your point about:



I would respectfully share a different conclusion if I may?

I hope though that you keep in mind that Jesus came first for the lost sheep of Israel, and not yet the Samaritans and Gentiles, etc.

Now, I believe the point of the story which Jesus told, had nothing or very little,
to do with whether the Samaritans did right or wrong. I think it more related
to the relationship that the Jews had towards the Samaritans. They saw them as a group
that they did not associate with.

Samaritans did NOT obey the law and did not do the purification works as was commanded by God.

They were as dogs not knowing their Father.

Jesus compares what we do to whom is our Father, or father, as in the devil, or as dogs, or pigs...

Jesus is showing that a Samaritan could do better than a Levite priest.

Jesus was teaching the NEW COVENANT.

Therefore the point being, not so much about the Samaritans being good or bad people, but your neighbor
is not just the people in your social class, your racial ethnic group, etc, etc. The Samaritans didn't associated
with the Jews, and Jesus used this story to show that being a neighbor as a Christian means loving "all" people,

Well yeah, but the Jews weren't supposed to associate with the Samaritans, so it is the other way around.

not only those in your group, just like this Samaritan (who likely did not receive good treatment from the Jews) showed
compassion on him, when all of his fellow Jewish citizens did not.

It is of importance to note that the Samaritans were the ones who did not obey and Jesus came to the lost sheep of Israel first.

But I suspect that those Jewish individuals, the priest, the Levi, etc, who passed the wounded man, probably thought
to themselves, "I'm a good Jew. I tithe, I keep the law. I fast" etc. But they weren't showing love to others outside
of their group. I think that is the point of the story, not necessarily to state that the Samaritans were bad people (just people of distance relations to the Jews).

Not sure why you insist on that since the Samaritans were noted as not being obedient to God, as the Gentiles.

Jesus is showing that the man who got robbed was a Jew, and the Levite priest and the other priest did not help, but a disobedient Samaritan did.

Jesus is NOT saying to not be obedient to God (like the Samaritans) is good, but that they did better than the non compassionate holy priests.

Hence the Bible tells us that he ask this question ("who is my neighbor?") in order to justify himself.
Meaning, he thought he was doing good enough, and the main point was "no", you are not doing
good enough, you need to share that love with "all people" who come across your path.

Jesus came to teach a new covenant and showed to love our enemies and to be kind to them, and he teaches what love is.

 

[God's Truth]

So sad, so sad people treats the simplicity of Jesus Christ as rubbish and garbage.

You preach Calvin.
I preach the Word of God, Jesus Christ, according to the scriptures in the Holy Bible.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Jesus is NOT saying to not be obedient to God (like the Samaritans) is good, but that they did better than the non compassionate holy priests.

Jesus came to teach a new covenant and showed to love our enemies and to be kind to them, and he teaches what love is.

Exactly, I agree, that is my point. Thanks, it seems we agree.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

You preach Calvin.
I preach the Word of God, Jesus Christ, according to the scriptures in the Holy Bible.

I think what @PloughBoy is stating was that he mentioned that the Bible says that none is righteous, no not one.
You replied and stated that Jesus tells us to be good. And @PloughBoy replies and says that it is sad that people
oversimplify the teachings of Jesus.

It seems that he ( @PloughBoy ) is saying that when Jesus speaks of there is none righteous (he stated, "why do you call me good, you know there is none good but God"),
Jesus is speaking about our inability to be good apart from God, the only one who is good. Therefore the complexity of the matter
he feels is being left out when you respond and say that "we are suppose to be good".

It seems you are speaking of that good which flows after we have the indwelling Holy Spirit, which leads us,
and @PloughBoy is speaking of the source of the goodness which we do not have apart from God.
The only one who is good.

 

[God's Truth]

I think what @PloughBoy is stating was that he mentioned that the Bible says that none is righteous, no not one.

He is saying what Calvin teachers, or Lutheran teachers, etc., taught him.

Paul is saying there is none SO righteous that have not sinned at least once, like Jesus.

Paul isn't saying all are evil.

That teaching that all are evil and none good is from false preachers.

You replied and stated that God tells us to be good

I didn't say that, but that is a good point!

I was saying that Jesus said there are good people, and they are the ones who get saved.

. And @PloughBoy replies and says that it is sad that people
oversimplify the teachings of Jesus.

Ploughboy goes against me because I go against the teachers he has spent so much time listening to.

If seems that he ( @PloughBoy ) is saying that when Jesus speaks of there is none righteous (he stated, "why do you call me good, you know there is none good but God"),
Jesus is speaking about our inability to be good apart from God, the only one who is good. Therefore the complexity of the matter
he feels is being left out when you respond and say that "we are suppose to be good".

You might understand God, but Ploughboy doesn't understand that Calvin preaches against God.

It seems you are speaking of that good which flows after we have the indwelling Holy Spirit, which leads us,

NO.
Jesus taught about good men before they received the Holy Spirit.
Ploughboy might be a Calvinist but you are a half brother maybe a Lutheran?

and @PloughBoy is speaking of the source of the goodness which we do not have apart from God.
The only one who is good.

I go only by what Jesus says.
Jesus says there are good men and nowhere anywhere does Jesus say all men are only bad and that no one can be saved unless they are saved first.

God does NOT save unbelievers and make them believe.

Good deep discussion though!

 

[God's Truth]

@PloughBoy and @Jesus_is_LORD

If all were evil and none with ANY GOOD, like ploughboy and the Calvinists and Lutherans teach---

THEN HOW ON EARTH WAS THAT SAMARITAN DOING RIGHT BY HELPING THAT MAN?

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

He is saying what Calvin teachers, or Lutheran teachers, etc., taught him.

Paul is saying there is none SO righteous that have not sinned at least once, like Jesus.

Paul isn't saying all are evil.

That teaching that all are evil and none good is from false preachers.

I didn't say that, but that is a good point!

I was saying that Jesus said there are good people, and they are the ones who get saved.


Ploughboy goes against me because I go against the teachers he has spent so much time listening to.

You might understand God, but Ploughboy doesn't understand that Calvin preaches against God.

NO.
Jesus taught about good men before they received the Holy Spirit.
Ploughboy might be a Calvinist but you are a half brother maybe a Lutheran?

I go only by what Jesus says.
Jesus says there are good men and nowhere anywhere does Jesus say all men are only bad and that no one can be saved unless they are saved first.

God does NOT save unbelievers and make them believe.

Good deep discussion though!

Definitely good discussion, I'm enjoying it .

Let us continue, shall we?
So speaking of good and evil, what is the definition that you are using when you state that a person is "good" or "evil"?

You stated that, "I was saying that Jesus said there are good people, and they are the ones who get saved". Thanks for sharing that perspective.

The way I understand the scripture is that no one is saved because they are good. My understanding and belief is that we are saved in Christ alone, by grace alone, and through faith alone.

No where is the being good mentioned in what I shared above, Jesus, faith, and grace.

Now to uplift your point, we can distinguish between justification and sanctification.

Our justification or status of being made right in God's eyes has nothing to do with us. But our sanctification, growing in holiness and good works, does require our participation, as we can resist the spirit's work.

So to your point, yes, Jesus does say, The King will say "well done my "good" and faithful servant ". This good that is assessed, is the good of sanctification, growing in holiness, for which you are correct.
So we can be good in sanctification but our justification is not of our doing.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

@PloughBoy and @Jesus_is_LORD

If all were evil and none with ANY GOOD, like ploughboy and the Calvinists and Lutherans teach---

THEN HOW ON EARTH WAS THAT SAMARITAN DOING RIGHT BY HELPING THAT MAN?

Good question, first I will point out that Jesus isn't or doesn't seem to be referring to an actual story that happened where a Samaritan who didn't fear God did this good act, he is giving a story for the purpose of illustration. -- Similar to how , when he gave a story about people working all different hours and the master paying them the same amount, that was not an actual event that happened, by which we are to focus on how can this master be so nice who has this business, but an illustration to point to the character of God or an in the case of the lawyer testing Jesus, an illustration to point to what it means to be a good neighbor.

You could possibly be correct in what you're asking, however I lean towards the fact that sometimes we lose the meaning if we take an analogy deeper than it is meant to go.

For example, the parable of the sower where some seeds feel on good soil, rocky soil, etc , etc. If one starts breaking down the analogy and starts talking about why the sower was wasting seeds and how he didn't just plant it all on the good soil, they would be missing the point and taking the analogy to a level that is besides the point. All analogies have a point where when you good too deep it breaks apart.

Your question is how can this Samaritan, who doesn't know God do a good deed. I don't think the Samaritan was necessarily the audience of the story but the Jews were.

For example, remember the story where Jesus talks about the people of this world are shrewd and we as believers should learn from them. If someone breaks that down to saying how can someone without the Holy Spirit be wiser than a Christian with the Holy Spirit, then they would be missing the point.

I think the point of the example is simply to show what it looks like to keep the Spirit of loving God with all your heart, soul, etc etc.

If we try to start basing other theological doctrines based on a parable not addressing those things, you are on slippery foundation. You might emerge on solid footing after you conclude that process, but I currently don't feel as confident as you are making that leap in the analogy.

 

[God's Truth]

Definitely good discussion, I'm enjoying it .

So good to hear.

Let us continue, shall we?
So speaking of good and evil, what is the definition that you are using when you state that a person is "good" or "evil"?

No particular definition, just what is the normal definition.

You stated that, "I was saying that Jesus said there are good people, and they are the ones who get saved". Thanks for sharing that perspective.

The way I understand the scripture is that no one is saved because they are good. My understanding and belief is that we are saved in Christ alone, by grace alone, and through faith alone.

I would say you are of the Lutheran sect.

Here are a couple of scriptures that show a person can be good and it is to those who get saved---

Luke 8:15 “… these are the ones who have heard the word in an honest and good heart, and hold it fast, and bear fruit with perseverance.”


Now there is nothing that says they were made to believe first.

Read these next scriptures about who the message of the gospel is even sent to:

See Acts 13:26 "Fellow children of Abraham and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent.


Acts 15:8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.


Acts 10:35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.


Can you see now that it goes against what you were taught?

No where is the being good mentioned in what I shared above, Jesus, faith, and grace.

Now to uplift your point, we can distinguish between justification and sanctification.

There is no difference between justified and sanctified.

Our justification or status of being made right in God's eyes has nothing to do with us.

It does.

But our sanctification, growing in holiness and good works, does require our participation, as we can resist the spirit's work.

We can resist before being save and after.

So to your point, yes, Jesus does say, The King will say "well done my "good" and faithful servant ". This good that is assessed, is the good of sanctification, growing in holiness, for which you are correct.

See that, the scripture you quote proves we can't say otherwise.

So we can be good in sanctification but our justification is not of our doing.

Refer back to the scripture I gave, and, those alone should stop anymore "no one is good" talk.

 

[God's Truth]

Good question, first I will point out that Jesus isn't or doesn't seem to be referring to an actual story that happened where a Samaritan who didn't fear God did this good act,

Of course he is.
Jesus did NOT come to save the Samaritans along with the lost sheep of Israel. They could not be saved until later, like the Gentiles and the Jews who rejected him.

he is giving a story for the purpose of illustration. -- Similar to how , when he gave a story about people working all different hours and the master paying them the same amount, that was not an actual event that happened, by which we are to focus on how can this master be so nice who has this business, but an illustration to point to the character of God or an in the case of the lawyer testing Jesus, an illustration to point to what it means to be a good neighbor.

You could possibly be correct in what you're asking, however I lean towards the fact that sometimes we lose the meaning if we take an analogy deeper than it is meant to go.

Do you not ever wonder that you were taught wrong by the preachers you learned from?

For example, the parable of the sower where some seeds feel on good soil, rocky soil, etc , etc. If one starts breaking down the analogy and starts talking about why the sower was wasting seeds and how he didn't just plant it all on the good soil, they would be missing the point and taking the analogy to a level that is besides the point. All analogies have a point where when you good too deep it breaks apart.

Everything about God is deep.
No such thing as taking it too deep.

Your question is how can this Samaritan, who doesn't know God do a good deed. I don't think the Samaritan was necessarily the audience of the story but the Jews were.

The point is to you and ploughboy who are taught to believe no one can do good.

I have proven with scripture that people can do good and some are even called good men.

For example, remember the story where Jesus talks about the people of this world are shrewd and we as believers should learn from them. If someone breaks that down to saying how can someone without the Holy Spirit be wiser than a Christian with the Holy Spirit, then they would be missing the point.

That is a little off point.
The point is, Lutherans and Calvinists teach things that go against what Jesus says.
There are good men, and no scripture anywhere says a person is saved then they believe and obey.
God does not save unbelievers.
He does not save unrepentant unbelievers.

I think the point of the example is simply to show what it looks like to keep the Spirit of loving God with all your heart, soul, etc etc.

People are hindered from being saved if they are not taught what to do to get saved.
Jesus is the Truth, and we are to know His Truth.

If we try to start basing other theological doctrines based on a parable not addressing those things, you are on slippery foundation.

I can show you with scripture that what I teach is about the Rock.

You might emerge on solid footing after you conclude that process, but I currently don't feel as confident as you are making that leap in the analogy.

I understand what you are saying, I really do. However, the Truth does matter, agree? You can easily admit that you are a Lutheran?

 

[GodB4Us]

I've got some history to remind you and everyone else.

• Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and Kahn killed more people and the latter enough to lower the Earth's temp a few degrees. Their ideals....communism/socialism is what led to the population being disarmed. You know what a government will do when the population is disarmed? ANYTHING it wants
• God has called on Christians to use violence and "tools" to put an end to and severely limit evil throughout history. Yes, the optimal choice of action is non-violence but look at the past 30 years of human history.
• Cain has a rock and chose to do evil out of jealousy and anger. David had a rock and chose to do good in the face of evil. The tool isn't the problem. Evil hearts and minds without God are the problem.
• Pro or against either way, most of the civilized world on any level is only there because of some group that protects it from others.
• Don't like them, then get behind someone who does or willingly get yourself killed. Make sure to tell everyone you know you'll do nothing should something evil comes you way with an intent to kill.

There's an agenda going on and many don't see it. George Soros is one big cause of it. Funded Antifa and Burn Loot Murder.

Thanks for sharing.

I see this all as signs of the times and we are to lean on Him for help to leave this life when the Bridegroom comes because like it or not, America will fall along with the rest of the western hemisphere after the rapture event.