Beware of the "Rapture Ready" Forum
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And the true purpose of this false doctrine was to try and overcome the reformation revelation that the pope was the antichrist. The doctrine was invented by two jesuit priests charged with the job of creating a future antichrist by confusing prophecy events via the timing of the second coming and what occurs to the church before it.
The main out come of this false rapture teaching being that, the church will not be here when antichrist is revealed.
The revelation of the papacy as antichrist was not born of strange revelation, it was realised due to the facts of history, that being 1260 years of tribulation at his hands ; the death of over 100 million christians ; and the main reason for the revelation being realised by men? They for the first time had access to the scriptures so they could understand them.
The battle with these liars still goes on to this day, it is fought here now on this very forum.
The "church" of Rome is Satan's tongue, and it should not be treated as friendly in any way.
For the souls of all men depend upon knowing what that seat of the papacy is, it is vital mankind is no longer deceived by it, or the gospel will be watered down by the flood that comes from the mouth of that dragon.
For the souls of all men depend upon knowing what that seat of the papacy is.
if this was not the case then st Paul Would have welcomed the false teachers into the flock for the body of believers to be eaten by them.
So it is vital mankind is no longer deceived by it, or the gospel will be watered down by the flood that comes from the mouth of that dragon.
Once the church knows in this day what the papacy is they will reject it and reject its voice and protect the lambs and sheep from that wolf, and so please God and do great service to men And the church whom Jesus christ came to redeem.
The church is under attack by an army of hell at this very moment whole congregations are being led to the pope of rome who is antichrist, by wicked wolves .
if this was not the case then st Paul Would have welcomed the false teachers into the flock for the body of believers to be eaten by them.
So it is vital mankind is no longer deceived by it, or the gospel will be watered down by the flood that comes from the mouth of that dragon.
Once the church knows in this day what the papacy is they will reject it and reject its voice and protect the lambs and sheep from that wolf, and so please God and do great service to men And the church whom Jesus christ came to redeem.
The church is under attack by an army of hell at this very moment whole congregations are being led to the pope of rome who is antichrist, by wicked wolves .
Also it is not as simple as rejecting the teachings of Rome
For Rome has planted teachings like this false rapture teaching, into the body
While rome itself distances itself from the teaching.
So, we have a task, to reject that teaching devised by antichrist by the word of God
For the word of God is truth, and we can know what is true and what is false.
We also have a duty to reject the wolves in leadership who are leading their flocks into the confederacy of the pope.
They need full rejection at once.
No matter the cause of their apostasy, the church must expose and flee from them.
No believer should sit in any pew under any man who is in agreement with the popes.
Forsake them so you do not forsake christ.
Teach all men that the only great high priest of the house of God universal is jesus Christ, And we all must pray to God that he will let them understand the importance of this truth, for it seems no one does!
And because no one does understand that head of blasphemy is taking the flock away from the good shepherd and giving it to its master the dragon.
For Rome has planted teachings like this false rapture teaching, into the body
While rome itself distances itself from the teaching.
So, we have a task, to reject that teaching devised by antichrist by the word of God
For the word of God is truth, and we can know what is true and what is false.
We also have a duty to reject the wolves in leadership who are leading their flocks into the confederacy of the pope.
They need full rejection at once.
No matter the cause of their apostasy, the church must expose and flee from them.
No believer should sit in any pew under any man who is in agreement with the popes.
Forsake them so you do not forsake christ.
Teach all men that the only great high priest of the house of God universal is jesus Christ, And we all must pray to God that he will let them understand the importance of this truth, for it seems no one does!
And because no one does understand that head of blasphemy is taking the flock away from the good shepherd and giving it to its master the dragon.
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Declaring your idea about the catching away of the saints is false, and merely reveals that you've been led down the garden path of false teachers. Read the word of God and discover for yourself what God says about it.
This has no relation to the RCC or any pope.
Your fear is almost palpable.
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That's a lie. The Pre-Tribulational catching away of the saints is utterly biblical.
I have no fear of the doctrines of men.
The rapture doctrine is a doctrine of men
You are right to say listen to the word only and that is what i do
The Lord rebukes any men who accept the Papacy
Here we see confusion taught.
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I understand what you mean, but I've been on the various sides of some of the many issues too many times myself. The apostles who wrote what they wrote which became scripture are not here to testify for themselves. The Truth of the matter of God's Word is available but only through the quickening (bringing to Life) of the raw scripture within a man by the Holy Ghost.
This is what the Holy Ghost in us is supposed to be about, but reasoning minds of men will often have their own way causing confusion for too many people. When Jesus spoke he never spoke with confusion, but some people whose own ways were in their way were confused.
That cause of confusion still exists for when we start deciding what Jesus (or the Apostles) meant when they spoke (or wrote) without being led by the Holy Ghost, we are heading for a fall.
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He we see the truth taught.
Those who are God's will have the spirit, they will be reachable not by men but by his word
They will not refuse the truth, the very plain truth that st paul teaches concerning the coming of the lord and our being gathered to him concerns one event on one day, and st paul makes clear that that day will not come until After the Falling away and man of sin is revealed.
The plain Truth of the words in english is understood by even those who do not believe in the Lord.
A liar is exposed by his lie against What is fully known to be the truth not because of lies.
Those in christ know the truth and can see the lies that are against christ's truth, which is the word of truth that is not hidden but has been made known to all men who are in the truth..
The body of Christ is not in mystery Babylon ( confusion)
It is in the truth and knows ALL things .
St paul clearly teaches the coming of the lord and our being gathered to him
Concerns a certain day, one day, and he patiently corrects those who had fell victim to the very false teaching you defend, by telling the victims of such a false teaching that that day shall not come until the falling away ( from the truth) and the man of sin has first been revealed.
The Lord rebukes all those who serve the pope.
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Your fear of what you think is a doctrine of men is what is prohibiting you from seeing what God's word actually says to you. Sad.
You are mixing up what the catching away of the Bride is and Yeshua's glorious, yet terrible return---with us. They are exactly two separate events! Your comprehension of "plain English" has nothing to do with this. It is the spiritual discernment of what God is teaching us in His word that is a problem.
In fact, being obstinate and disparaging of people who accept the pre-Tribulational teaching is a sign of spiritual lack. You are merely putting forth your personal interpretation. This accusing tone of yours, declaring everything that differs with your interpretation as lies, etc. is not unifying of the Body. The devil loves that.
These matters do not impede one's salvation, nor one's spiritual maturing in the Lord. So, you can stop with the hurling, and the divisiveness... now.
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The truth may not be mysterious... but it is hidden from some.
The truth is foolishness to those who are perishing...
1 Cor 1:18-25; 1 Cor 2:14; 1 Cor 3:19;
Some have been blinded by the truth....
John 12:40; 2 Cor 4:4; 1 Jn 2:11; etc..
There are some mysteries only known by some...
Mark 4:11; Rom 16:25; 1 Cor 2:7; Eph 3:3-9; Col 1:26-27; 1 Tim 3:9; 1 Tim 3:16; etc...
The truth is foolishness to those who are perishing...
1 Cor 1:18-25; 1 Cor 2:14; 1 Cor 3:19;
Some have been blinded by the truth....
John 12:40; 2 Cor 4:4; 1 Jn 2:11; etc..
There are some mysteries only known by some...
Mark 4:11; Rom 16:25; 1 Cor 2:7; Eph 3:3-9; Col 1:26-27; 1 Tim 3:9; 1 Tim 3:16; etc...
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I commend your zealousness against the RCC. But you're mostly preaching to the choir here.
There are very few RCC members on here these days.
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You have no reason to declare the pope "the man of sin". He has a false accreditation as the "Vicar of Christ", but you must refrain from your fixation on him and the RCC.
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I have every reason to call him what he is
A wicked prince a liar against all truth.
He sits as a man yet says he is the supreme high priest over the house of God
He is antichrist and you are in rebellion against the Lord himself for you defend that wicked one who stands against Jesus Christ and claims to be in his place.
May the lord himself rebuke you .
I unlike you am here to defend the truth
I do not work for the devil .
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He is one of many, and sits over Catholics...no one else.
He may be only one antichrist in a long line of them...but He is not THE Antichrist, the man of sin that the Bible teaches us. I am not in defense of him, either.
You need to give your wee head a shake. Maybe you've been actually listening to those voices. Stop rebuking all and sundry here. You are in no place spiritually to do so.
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The whole church is in deception from satan
They are not submitting to God and Are proven to be so for they defend and are working with a man who claims to be the great high priest over the house of God
Rebuke that pope denounce him in the name of Jesus
For he is accursed he is the man of sin.
They are not submitting to God and Are proven to be so for they defend and are working with a man who claims to be the great high priest over the house of God
Rebuke that pope denounce him in the name of Jesus
For he is accursed he is the man of sin.
Your a deceiver and a wicked one at that
You have no love of the truth in you and are serving the devil
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Not so!
I love Yeshua, the Messiah, and I serve Him.
You need to stop being so inflammatory, as if you alone are the arbiter of all truth.
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Getting a bit heated. Time to close this thread for a while.
Even disagreements can be done in a way that befits individuals who call themselves Believers.
Take a little time to consider what our Lord asked of us. To love one another. The Apostles disagreed, yet I see no where the words that have been used here that are not constructive or should be reflective of the Body of Christ. Even if you believe that the other is not!
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Even disagreements can be done in a way that befits individuals who call themselves Believers.
Take a little time to consider what our Lord asked of us. To love one another. The Apostles disagreed, yet I see no where the words that have been used here that are not constructive or should be reflective of the Body of Christ. Even if you believe that the other is not!
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