Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit

[brother in christ]

In my belief blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the same as accepting the mark of the beast. Picture in your mind someone who has accepted the mark. There hearts would be cold to god and others. They will not care for gods love or forgiveness.They just simply wont care for anything but themselves. So i believe blasphemy of thr Holy Spirit is the same it hardens your heart to gods forgiveness. It takes your ability to ask for forgiveness away. So if you are worried you have done it this may help you to know you havent. If you love and care about god and others then you havent done it

 

[brother in christ]

matt ch12verse 31 and 32 New Living Translation scripture refrence says blasphemy agianst the holy spirit is a deliberate and irreversible hardness of heart. sometimes believers worry that they have committed this unforgivable sin.but only those who have turned thier backs on god and rejected all faith have any need to worry.jesus said that they cant be forgiven-not because thier sin is worse than any other but because they will never ask for forgiveness. So brothers and sisters if you care for god and seek his forgiveness you are innocent of this thing

 

[Chad]

This shows you how much GOD loves us and wants to spend eternity with us in Heaven. He has made it 100% easy for us to receive salvation and forgiveness through Jesus Christ. I feel sorry for GOD to put up with my sins and the world's sins each day. GOD is the only perfect, holy One in the world, with the most broken heart.

I pray that everyone here on Talk Jesus will remember this and think of the pain Jesus went through for you and I. Think of what GOD did from the womb to the tomb, and after 'til this day.

 

[Adstar]

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a specific thing Lets look at the veses where it was mentioned and read it in context.


Mark 3

22And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, "He has Beelzebub," and, "By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons."
23So He called them to Himself and said to them in parables: "How can Satan cast out Satan? 24If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25And if a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26And if Satan has risen up against himself, and is divided, he cannot stand, but has an end. 27No one can enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. And then he will plunder his house. 28 "Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; 29but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation"-- 30because they said, "He has an unclean spirit."

What did the scribes do? They said that the Holy Spirit that was with Jesus was "Beelzebub" They accused the Spirit of being a demon, (like calling God satan) that act is the sin of blasphemy of the Spirit. verse 30 refers to "they" they where the scribes in verse 22.

So if one pronounces that another person has a demon and that person actually is indwelled by the Holy Spirit then one has just accused the Holy Spirit of being a demon and has committed the sin that "never has forgiveness" and they are "subject to eternal condemnation".



All Praise The Ancient of Days

 

[brother in christ]

Proof blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is forgivable by god and not forgivable in your own heart. (ST.MARK KJV)ch.1:25,26 And jesus rebuked him,saying,Hold thy peace, and come out of him.And when the UNCLEAN SPIRIT had torn him,and cried with a loud voice,he
came out of him.
(ST.MARK KJV)ch.3:29,30 But he that shall blaspheme against the holy ghost hath never forgiveness,but is IN DANGER OF ETERNAL DAMNATION:Because they said,He hath an UNCLEAN SPIRIT.
Sorry it took so long to find this answer.But this is why you shoulnt worry if you've done this sin.If you worry you have done it then you have not done it.So my first thread stands.I hope this helpes. GOD BLESS ALL IN JESUS IN JESUS NAME GLORY TO THE FATHER GOD AND THE LAMB:AMEN

 

[Sleepy]

Thanks

Think I understand this ... Thanks for sharing

 

[brother in christ]

Think I understand this ... Thanks for sharing

See the thing is sleepy.That christians fear they have done this unforgivable sin by accident.But the truth is if they care for god and his fogiveness then they haven't done it.It shows that gods forgiveness has no bounds!!!!People figure if they have done it that there might be no hope for them.But by this i see there is no way one could do it without knowing they have done it.This very thing bothered me when i learned of it when i just started seeking god. My goal in this is just to lessen fear among any who are worried of this. GOD BLESS ALL IN JESUS NAME :AMEN

 

[Gloria]

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I agree the verses you mentioned Mark 3:22 is a very dangerous thing to do. What were they doing? they said Jesus "has a devil" and the works He did was from the power of the devil. In light of this it is also a very serious thing to say a minister is of the devil when they dont understand certain things he does or not beleive like he believes. Perhaps they dont agree. But I believe we should not judge but pray for them if we think these is something wrong. If we are critisizing someone and only God knows their heart, not us, then we could be speaking against God and His works saying its of the devil. We may be walking on thin ice. Its better to just leave it alone and leave it to God.

 

[jiggyfly]

5*“But now I am going away to the one who sent me, and none of you has asked me where I am going. 6*Instead, you are very sad. 7*But it is actually best for you that I go away, because if I don’t, the Counselor* won’t come. If I do go away, he will come because I will send him to you. 8*And when he comes, he will convince the world of its sin, and of God’s righteousness, and of the coming judgment. 9*The world’s sin is unbelief in me. 10*Righteousness is available because I go to the Father, and you will see me no more. 11*Judgment will come because the prince of this world has already been judged.
12*“Oh, there is so much more I want to tell you, but you can’t bear it now. 13*When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not be presenting his own ideas; he will be telling you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future. 14*He will bring me glory by revealing to you whatever he receives from me. 15*All that the Father has is mine; this is what I mean when I say that the Spirit will reveal to you whatever he receives from me.

The Holy Spirit does not speak of himself, but testifies that Jesus is mesiah, so to blapheme or defame the Holy Spirit is to reject Christ also.

 

[Adstar]

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I agree the verses you mentioned Mark 3:22 is a very dangerous thing to do. What were they doing? they said Jesus "has a devil" and the works He did was from the power of the devil. In light of this it is also a very serious thing to say a minister is of the devil when they dont understand certain things he does or not beleive like he believes. Perhaps they dont agree. But I believe we should not judge but pray for them if we think these is something wrong. If we are critisizing someone and only God knows their heart, not us, then we could be speaking against God and His works saying its of the devil. We may be walking on thin ice. Its better to just leave it alone and leave it to God.

Telling someone that they are misguided and that that what they are teaching is wrong is not the same as accusing someone of being demon possessed. You do not have to be possessed by a demon to have misguided views on the will of God, people are quite capable of getting the will of God wrong by themselves without needing a demon to help them.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a specific action. Even if i truly believe someone is promoting false teachings on Jesus i would never accuse them of being demon possessed.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[Gloria]

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I agree the verses you mentioned Mark 3:22 is a very dangerous thing to do.]

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I hope you didnt take this wrong. I was AGREEING with you in this statement.


As far as the rest of that post -- I was in no way saying this about you. That was for anyone who reads this forum. I should have made a separate post. Sorry for the confusion.

God bless you

 

[Adstar]

I didn't take it wrong. :thumbs_up

Sorry if my reply made you think i did.

All Praise The Ancient of Days

 

[brother in christ]

Telling someone that they are misguided and that that what they are teaching is wrong is not the same as accusing someone of being demon possessed. You do not have to be possessed by a demon to have misguided views on the will of God, people are quite capable of getting the will of God wrong by themselves without needing a demon to help them.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a specific action. Even if i truly believe someone is promoting false teachings on Jesus i would never accuse them of being demon possessed.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

I hope i am misunderstanding this! But is this directed at me? I never said blasphemy against the holy spirit wasn't a single act. What i am simply trying to do is lessen fear for new christians. That fear they might have done this sin on accident. I myself wondered in the beginning of my walk.I am saying that if you fear you have committed this sin than you have not committed this sin. Because if you had committed this sin you would not ask for forgiveness. Unless you are disagreeing that god will forgive this thing.My god is forgiving to the uttermost. He is perfect in all his ways that is what i believe. Being evil enough to do this sin to begin with shows repentance is not in them. What possibly could your disagreement be? Are you saying that you can do this sin and not relize it and go through the rest of your life seeking god and in the end come to find you never had it? Even still not being convicted of your sins would that not tell you,you are not saved? you have the holy spirit right? wouldnt you know if you didn't? Hmmmm just dont get it i guess. Well please go in to detail for me if you will? god bless you adstar your BROTHER in CHRIST,brother in christ

 

[Adstar]

I hope i am misunderstanding this! But is this directed at me? I never said blasphemy against the holy spirit wasn't a single act. What i am simply trying to do is lessen fear for new christians. That fear they might have done this sin on accident. I myself wondered in the beginning of my walk.I am saying that if you fear you have committed this sin than you have not committed this sin. Because if you had committed this sin you would not ask for forgiveness. Unless you are disagreeing that god will forgive this thing.My god is forgiving to the uttermost. He is perfect in all his ways that is what i believe. Being evil enough to do this sin to begin with shows repentance is not in them. What possibly could your disagreement be? Are you saying that you can do this sin and not relize it and go through the rest of your life seeking god and in the end come to find you never had it? Even still not being convicted of your sins would that not tell you,you are not saved? you have the holy spirit right? wouldnt you know if you didn't? Hmmmm just dont get it i guess. Well please go in to detail for me if you will? god bless you adstar your BROTHER in CHRIST,brother in christ

No the reply was in response to this post from Gloria

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I agree the verses you mentioned Mark 3:22 is a very dangerous thing to do. What were they doing? they said Jesus "has a devil" and the works He did was from the power of the devil. In light of this it is also a very serious thing to say a minister is of the devil when they dont understand certain things he does or not beleive like he believes. Perhaps they dont agree. But I believe we should not judge but pray for them if we think these is something wrong. If we are critisizing someone and only God knows their heart, not us, then we could be speaking against God and His works saying its of the devil. We may be walking on thin ice. Its better to just leave it alone and leave it to God.

The point i was trying to make was that you can stand against a ministers teachings without accusing that minister of being demon possessed. If people get the idea that just disagreeing with a minister could mean they are blaspheming against the Holy Spirit then no one would ever challenge suspect teachings and deceivers would have free reign in the body of Christ.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[WingedGrace]

brother in Christ

Thank you for posting this! I guess you would say that I am a new Christian, I've gotten serious about it for a couple of years. I sturggle with this fear, b/c I have some very bad thoughts run thru my mind...not of my own, but it sure does feel like it. After I researched it, I found it it's very common. So that made me feel better, as you did. Thank you again, God bless you.

 

[Gloria]

If a person really commits blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which cannot be forgiven, then he wont even be concerned about repenting. The reason being that you must be convicted of any sin so you can repent. But if he wants to repent for something he has said or thought then that proves he is not guilty of this kind of blasphemy. Whatever it was he can repent and be forgiven.

 

[Adstar]

even the Pharisees had they repented and proclaimed Jesus as lord would have been born again.

Not the pharisees that had accused the Holy Spirit of being beelzebul, they are doomed.

All praise The Ancient of Days

 

[sparky]

Am i right in thinking that satan and his demons have all blasphemed against the holy spirit?Would this also include people like adam and eve,judas and the people of soom and gomorrah?I had a guy in chat saying he felt sorry for the devil and a loving god would love for him to repent.I tried to explain that it had gone way past that but found the words to describe it difficult to find.Your thoughts?

 

[Chad]

The devil is defeated, done with, thrown away and will burn forever - for a good reason indeed.

The devil was already in a perfect Heaven when he disobeyed GOD and the 1/3 of angels done the same.

That person who felt bad for the devil has no Word in him/her to understand. GOD is a GOD of justice and mercy. But what the devil has done is nothing to be merciful about

 

[sparky]

The devil is defeated, done with, thrown away and will burn forever - for a good reason indeed.

The devil was already in a perfect Heaven when he disobeyed GOD and the 1/3 of angels done the same.

That person who felt bad for the devil has no Word in him/her to understand. GOD is a GOD of justice and mercy. But what the devil has done is nothing to be merciful about

lol-thanks chad,wish i could have worded it that well.